In Thunder's Echo (Legend of the Five Rings Quest)

So... someone that has reasons to hate the scorpions, has, at least, perception and agility 3 and has something to prove.

But at the same time, has a very tenuous position (probably more from tradition than personal power).

We could turn him into an asset, but this will not be the last time we will see him.
 
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[X] sorry "Matsu"-sama, but not everyone has your family story. I do need to train for the tournament that will happen. Will you participate? "

Or something like this...

(I may have failed, but I am trying not to show too much deference, that we understand from where he is coming and givingan oportunity to face him again during the tournament)
 
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[X] Jaertin

Brevity is the soul of wit and all that, says everything we need to say more succinctly, plus I think it leaves less of an opening to the Matsu, Sirroccos ends with an invitation to the Matsu to continue the exchange which I don't really want to do.
The problem is that if we cut off the exchange unilaterally, he might well take that as reason to take offense - which would continue the conversation on notably worse terms. @Jaertin's vote is a more aggressive one, and gives the Lion more to work with. Politeness and openness, paradoxically, constrains his actions.

So... as an ex-Akodo, he's here with something to prove. He's probably had this chip on his shoulder for a while. Huh.

Also, if we do manage to pick up that point of reflexes, and do face him in the kenjutsu tournament, there's a nontrivial chance that we might win. That would be satisfying.
 
Also, if we do manage to pick up that point of reflexes, and do face him in the kenjutsu tournament, there's a nontrivial chance that we might win. That would be satisfying.
Honestly, I rather doubt we'll manage to do that in the time we've left. I mean, we have today, and tomorrow the tournament already takes place, no?

Though, I figure we might have a good chance at getting the necessary XP to raise some combat skills; that might help us out as well, if not as much, I believe?
 
Honestly, I rather doubt we'll manage to do that in the time we've left. I mean, we have today, and tomorrow the tournament already takes place, no?

Though, I figure we might have a good chance at getting the necessary XP to raise some combat skills; that might help us out as well, if not as much, I believe?
I think we have today and tomorrow before the tournament. If we can get the same amount of XP as we did the first day on both days (something I doubt), then we can make it.
 
2.5 - Confrontations
You study the Matsu warrior for a moment, eyes flicking back and forth across his heraldry and stance even as your mind works through several plausible courses of action. In the end, though, you opt for discretion, as best serves the needs of your Clan.

"I am what I am, what fate and my own will have made me." You say simply, enjoying the momentary look of surprise on your opponent's face as you sidestep the obvious insult. "Currently, I seek to improve myself, as all samurai should."

The Lion hesitates for a moment, clearly wrong-footed. You suspect that he was expecting you to react like a fellow Lion, and instantly challenge him to a duel for slandering you in such a fashion. Indeed, you can almost see the series of thoughts going through his mind, and the conclusion he reaches is predictable - if you will not avenge an insult, it must be because you are too weak and scared to do so.

"I suppose I cannot blame you. No man could look upon the Lion without feeling shame over his own inadequacies." He taunts you, and despite your best intentions your hand tightens on the hilt of your katana, causing the blade to shift noticeably. An insult to one's self can be born with grace, and insult to one's clan and family must be answered. But you are Scorpion, and you will address these problems in the correct way or not at all.

"I will be participating in the upcoming Kenjutsu tournament." You say flatly, once more throwing your opponent off balance, for surely a coward would do no such thing. "Ask your sensei to enter your name as my opponent for the first round, and I will welcome your interest."

Behind your accuser, the rest of the squad look at each other in consideration, their unified support for their kin momentarily broken. To not only retaliate for the insult but escalate it to a stage where all the court will be able to watch, that was clearly not what they were expecting. By doing so you have both met their challenge and taken control of the situation from them, for there is no way to make a training ground showdown seem like the more honourable choice compared to a duel in front of their own superiors. You give them a moment to follow that line of thought, and then continue.

"If that is not what you wish... perhaps you could be clearer about your intentions?"

Uncertain and out maneuvered, the young Matsu defaults to what might almost be an instinctive response. His katana hisses faintly as he begins to draw it, and his face contorts into a mask of furious rage.

"I will..."

"You will do nothing." The voice is quiet, almost soft, yet it cuts through the air like a whip. Startled, you and the squad of Lions turn to look over at the source. Standing a short distance away from the confrontation and studying it with a fiercely dissapproving look in his eyes is a young boy, perhaps eight to ten years of age at the most and dressed in the humble clothes of a student at one of the castle's dojos. He should not appear even slightly threatening, and yet some instinct causes you to return your sword to its sheathe rather than risk offering any kind of visible threat.

It is not an instinct shared by your opponent, who merely snorts and waves his hand in a dismissive fashion. "Run back to your mother, boy. This does not concern you."

Surprisingly, the student merely smiles, a razor-edged expression without any kind of genuine amusement to it. "My name is Matsu Nimuro." He says sharply. "My mother is Matsu Ketsui. Are you sure you wish me to... 'run back to her'?"

It is truly amazing, you think to yourself, just how quickly the colour can leave a man's face. The moment the boy's name registers with the hostile samurai they throw themselves to the ground so hard you suspect they might have injured themselves, pressing their foreheads against the stone floor in absolute deference.

"My sincerest apologies, Matsu-dono." Their leader croaks out, evidently horrified at the sheer magnitude of his error. Considering that the boy could quite easily demand his death in exchange for the insult, or at the very least utterly ruin his entire career with only a few words, you cannot help but feel that the reaction is entirely appropriate.

"I am not the one you should be apologizing to, samurai-san." The young lord says coldly, indicating you with a quick gesture. "The Scorpion is a guest here, and entitled to our hospitality."

There is no direct command there, and likely there cannot be, since Nimuro is too young to hold formal authority. Even so the suggestion is crystal clear, and without looking up the formerly brash young Lion shifts slightly towards you, not lifting his gaze from the ground.

"My most humble apologies, Scorpion-sama." He says, every word sounding like it causes him physical pain. "My pride overcame my sense of courtesy. It will not happen again."

He does not sound particularly sincere, and it seems abundantly obvious that he is only saying these things because he feels compelled to. Even so, it is an apology of sorts, and now you must decide how to react to it.

Respond:
[ ] Accept the apology
[ ] Reject the apology
[ ] Write in
 
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Now the question is how to milk this the most without alienating the Lion too much, still graciously accepting the apology, making the kid a contact of ours, and, if we can put it without sacrificing anything else, add a subtle insult or two. :p
 
[X] Accept the apology

I see no reason not to.
Now the question is how to milk this the most without alienating the Lion too much, still graciously accepting the apology, making the kid a contact of ours, and, if we can put it without sacrificing anything else, add a subtle insult or two. :p
The rails may throw this off course, but that kid later becomes the future Lion Champion. Definitely a worthwhile contact and friendship.
 
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[X] Accept the apology

"Humble in victory, gracious in defeat" seems like the image we want to project.

Also, avenue of contact with Best Waifu spotted.
 
Hm... maybe accept the apology, but suggest something like a sparring match at a later date? This might garner us a few points by both giving him a - relatively - graceful way out of this (compared to escalating to a match in the tournament), while also demonstrating some martial spirit and not backing down from such a challenge.

On the other hand, doing so could insult Nimuro, by implying that his intervention was unneeded/unwanted.

Perhaps we could go out on a limb and say something that hints at the bushi's former Akodo heritage? "Yeah, I can understand you're pissed at everything after your family got dismantled." Though, obviously in much more polite and less offensive words.
Could net us some points in our favor because we recognize the mon he wears and deduce its importance, but could also backfire and be seen as gloating/insulting.
 
Rejecting the apology would be a mistake. That's a bit costly, and only useful for demanding satisfaction... and we don't *want* satisfaction. The question is how to accept - and how to spin our acceptance for best effect. Again, this is a point where we define our own position to a degree. Matsu Nimuro is watching - and his opinion matters.

- This Lion has behaved dishonorably, according to his own codes. He needs to be humbled for that.
- This Lion has insulted us and our clan. If we just blandly let that go, we are disrespectful to our clan, and in some ways dismissive of things the Lion cares about. For the moment, it seems pretty unlikely that we'll be facing him in the tournament

So... we'd like to shame him (a bit), in a way that doesn't shame the Lion, and doesn't push him *too* far.

Huh. I almost want to say something about continuing to welcome his interest in the upcoming tournament, and being willing to accept his apology there. Admittedly, that's probably pushing it too far.

Need to eat. Need to think. Will be back later.
 
[X] Accept the apology

We don't need to get any points out of this, especially not if it might anger any of the Matsu.
 
Should we tank the Yong lord?

If we do we could put some veiled insult to the samurai... or maybe to his old family. .. after all the emperor didn't see into himself to restore them...
 
Should we tank the Yong lord?

If we do we could put some veiled insult to the samurai... or maybe to his old family. .. after all the emperor didn't see into himself to restore them...
Probably, though that can wait till we get a chance to meet in private later (or in view of somebody else if that suits our purposes).

As for the insult, we really don't want to just get a cheap jibe in when the guy could likely kill us easily.
 
[x] Write In - "I accept your apology, but must reiterate my hope to meet you in the tournament. As I said before, I seek to better myself and a passionate opponent can only push me further on the path of self-development. After all, we are all forever students in our own way, are we not?"

@Sirrocco: Thoughts? It covers accepting the apology, allows us to meet again on friendlier terms, establishes a respectable intent that the Lion would appreciate and makes commonality in terms of both being young-ish samurai out and about in service to our clans, while not making too much light of his temper.
 
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[x] Write In - "I accept your apology, but must reiterate my hope to meet you in the tournament. As I said before, I seek to better myself and a passionate opponent can only push me further on the path of self-development. After all, we are all forever students in our own way, are we not?"

@Sirrocco: Thoughts? It covers accepting the apology, allows us to meet again on friendlier terms, establishes a respectable intent that the Lion would appreciate and makes commonality in terms of both being young-ish samurai out and about in service to our clans, while not making too much light of his temper.
Sounds kinda good but if we do say that we are going to kinda need to win against him for it to be of any particular value.
 
The problem is that it dismiss the young lord participation...

I think that any write in should be aimed at him and not at a lowly bushi.
 
[] Write In - "I accept your apology, but must reiterate my hope to meet you in the tournament. As I said before, I seek to better myself and a passionate opponent can only push me further on the path of self-development. After all, we are all forever students in our own way, are we not?"

Hmm, good point, Bastur. I'll just leave this here and x it in if we can't think of anything slightly better, though I *do* like it.
 
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