In Thunder's Echo (Legend of the Five Rings Quest)

[x] Asako-san, in this I know only my own experiences. I know not in truth the will of the Heavens, but I *did* have a dream that seemed quite real. In that dream, I felt that the Thunder Dragon had looked at me, and approved, and touched me with the tiniest spark of her power. How much of that was true, and how much was merely my own mind seeking to make sense of things, I cannot say with certainty. Beyond that? You would know more of how spirits see the world than I.
 
I feel like asking about the name should be done in more private surroundings, if at all - preferably our own quarters, or some other place strongly shielded from listening ears. That's digging pretty deep into the stuff that we're not necessarily telling people yet. I'm not going to say that it's the wrong answer, but it's one to be weighed carefully - and if we do reveal it to her, I feel like it should be as part of a package of other things that we're telling her to try to bring her (and, by extension, the Phoenix) in on things.
 
[X] Asako-san, in this I know only my own experiences. I know not in truth the will of the Heavens, but I *did* have a dream that seemed quite real. In that dream, I felt that the Thunder Dragon had looked at me, and approved, and touched me with the tiniest spark of her power. How much of that was true, and how much was merely my own mind seeking to make sense of things, I cannot say with certainty. Beyond that? You would know more of how spirits see the world than I.
 
[X] Asako-san, in this I know only my own experiences. I know not in truth the will of the Heavens, but I *did* have a dream that seemed quite real. In that dream, I felt that the Thunder Dragon had looked at me, and approved, and touched me with the tiniest spark of her power. How much of that was true, and how much was merely my own mind seeking to make sense of things, I cannot say with certainty. Beyond that? You would know more of how spirits see the world than I.

I'll throw in with this option. Like @Sirrocco said, this is Rokugan; shit like this happens, and so long as we're making it clear that we aren't explicitly claiming that we're blessed I don't see any issues with it.
 
7.06 - Dreams of a Dragon
Well. This is perhaps not the ideal time for such things, but you did promise to explain at a later date, and considering her own involvement in the matter the Phoenix does deserve to know. Not that there is a great deal to tell in any case, but such is the way of things.

"Asako-san..." You say, pausing for a moment to muster your thoughts. "In this, I can speak only to my own experiences. I know not the will of the heavens, but I did have a dream that seemed to be quite real."

"The heavens have been known to communicate with mortals through such methods." Tani acknowledges as the two of you complete your circuit of the room. She flicks open a brilliant red fan to conceal her lips from view as she speaks. "Might I enquire about the specifics?"

"I felt that the Thunder Dragon looked at me, and that she touched me with the tiniest spark of her power." You admit, somewhat uncertain. Calm confidence has ever been your preferred method of facing the world, but only a madman would claim to have any kind of true serenity in matters of such import as this. "How much of that was true, and how much was merely my own mind seeking to make sense of things, I cannot say... at least not with any certainty. As for the one who spoke those words... you would know more about how spirits see the world than I."

"Not as much as I might wish to." Tani murmurs softly, her tone considering. "The yuki-no-ona are strange and distant forms even to the Phoenix. I know several of the Isawa have made a point of studying them and their abilities, in a quest to better understand the nature of water and air in all their forms, but I myself have only the barest knowledge of such things."

You draw your own fan from inside the kimono sleeve. "Unfortunate, but not unexpected. I suppose I shall simply have to proceed as best I may with the knowledge at my disposal."

"Such is all that any of us can truly hope to do, Soshi-san." Tani says, not without sympathy. "Still, let us talk of happier topics. Do you know if your lord had intended to sponsor anyone for the Bowman's Wager?"

You shake your head in silent thought. The Wager is an old and highly respected tradition in the world of the courts, for it blends martial skill with political maneuvering and as such offers a chance for glory to any number of samurai each year. The court here is too small for a true Wager, as might be found in the splendor and extravagance of the Imperial Winter Court, but even so each clan will likely select someone to participate on their behalf. That might be one of their own samurai, or it might be someone from another Clan willing to perform in their name in exchange for individual concessions or even just a chance at glory.

You could potentially enter yourself, for perhaps look into finding someone from another Clan to compete on your behalf, but in either case it would be a minor violation of etiquette to not at least offer some kind of prize to the eventual winner. Which is probably going to be the Tsuruchi, if their reputation holds any weight at all, but such things are never entirely certain.

Decisions, decisions...

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It is currently the 28th Day of the Boar. You have two days remaining before the Bowman's Wager. Who, if anyone, do you send to compete in the display?
[ ] Compete yourself
[ ] Seek out another to compete on behalf of your Clan.
- [ ] From the other delegations (which one?)
- [ ] From among the Lion.
[ ] Do not compete. Minor embarrassment, but could potentially be negated given recent circumstances.

Even if you do not compete, it would be expected that you offer at least some kind of prize to the winner and their sponsoring Clan. Consult the resources list in the thread-marked index, or come up with something of your own devising.
[ ] Write in what to wager

You have two more days of court to use to your advantage. Please specify if you wish to focus on any particular attendee (individual or Clan), and what you would like to accomplish in doing so. This can include any secondary activities, such as writing an apology to the Kaiu etc.
[ ] Write in

What would you ask Yogo Hanzo and Shosuro Hideki to work on during those two days?
[ ] Write in
 
Hm... asking someone else to compete on our behalf might be useful in some fashion. Show of favor/closeness with either the individual or/and clan in question.
No clue who to ask, though.

Similarly, not sure what to wager. I'm guessing from Maugan Ra referring to the resource-list, that it's supposed to be something like a few units of lumber, or a place on one of our schools.
@Maugan Ra, could you give us some example of the wagers the other clans are making? Or some other sort of general benchmark for how this is supposed to work?
 
Yeah; IIRC he's the Mantis' courtier's yojimbo.
If only the Mantis had brought a second Tsuruchi, serving whatever role. We could have stolen him for the Wager, or at least tried to. But with a single one of them, it'd be far too hard and cause far too much pain for far too little gain to steal said archer for it. :p

So, anyone with archery aspirations that we want to show some favor? Perhaps some Lion who would like to participate but there was already someone else selected? Do our Shugenja actually have a fierce archery hobby and would like to test himself against the others? Is there someone we want to make feel like we are planning something for them by offering to bribe gift to participate in the name of the Scorpion, while our true plan is just to grow Paranoia, both his own and that of the rest of the court?
 
Competing ourselves would be a major embarrassment, frankly. We've got no skill at Kyujutsu.

Crab Hands means you're rolling 5k4, which is pretty good. Not Tsuruchi-level, but few indeed can match the Wasp at their chosen specialization.

Hm... asking someone else to compete on our behalf might be useful in some fashion. Show of favor/closeness with either the individual or/and clan in question.
No clue who to ask, though.

Similarly, not sure what to wager. I'm guessing from Maugan Ra referring to the resource-list, that it's supposed to be something like a few units of lumber, or a place on one of our schools.
@Maugan Ra, could you give us some example of the wagers the other clans are making? Or some other sort of general benchmark for how this is supposed to work?

From the resource list, the school places would be a solid pick - anything else would probably come across as somewhat crass.

Otherwise, you'd be looking for any gift of your own devising, and there are few real restrictions on what that might be (within reason).
 
Crab Hands means you're rolling 5k4, which is pretty good. Not Tsuruchi-level, but few indeed can match the Wasp at their chosen specialization.



From the resource list, the school places would be a solid pick - anything else would probably come across as somewhat crass.

Otherwise, you'd be looking for any gift of your own devising, and there are few real restrictions on what that might be (within reason).

...oh right I forgot about that.

And yes, the school places are probably the best wager to make.
 
Okay. Back to the Bowman's wager. Our original intent was to skip it, but we've actually got a decently respectable dicepool now (and no shame in losing to a Wasp) and we do need a social in to the Mantis delegation. Also, now is not the time to soak up avoidable embarassment dings. Unfortunately, we don't know all that much about what the Wasp likes. They're big on respect, and some of the traditional ideas of honor rub them the wrong way in a big way. We can offer a school position as a no-harm-no-foul, but let's try to look a bit deeper than that...

...later. I can come to some conclusions on other matters.

- We need to touch base with Daidoji-san - sooner rather than later.
- generating an apology for the Kaiu is probably a good idea.
- We desperately need to produce and send to our superiors an updated letter about the Nothing and what we've found (and other developments) - have Shosuro Hideki run the crypto for us, if he's good for it.
- Beyond that, let Yogo-san spend most of his time working on the Unicorn and/or Dragon, seeing if there's anything that they need that we can provide. Hideki-san should work on rebuilding his web (I suspect it's taken some damage recently). If he needs some help on that (say, talking with the Magistrates again - especially if a lot of our scribes have died) then we might be ready to help him.

So... back to the prize... a slot at the Bayushi Bushi school would be about as bog-standard as they come, but wouldn't do anything to endear us to the Wasp. She doesn't get to keep it, it doesn't send any signals, and whoever they sent would likely hate it. If we're going to give a more personal gift... unfortunately, that falls flat in that the only thing we know about the Wasp is that she probably doesn't like us very much, she's really into archery, and there's no way to give her an archery-themed gift that's better than what she has already. Also, others are going to be giving gifts all over the place, which really winnows down the space for "interesting/flattering gift that doesn't actually require knowing you" to something Scorpion-themed.

Huh. This is kind of her big day, and she's a young bushi. "Go win the Bowman's Wager and come home with the loot" is probably a big part of her direction from her superiors for this Winter Court. If it comes to pass that we do win it (say, we go all in and then get lucky - not likely, but certainly possible) the payoff will probably be worth it, but she's going to be not best pleased.

As for Scorpion-themed gifts that she would actually like? Specifically, it needs to be one that won't reflect poorly on our Clan, won't break the bank, can't be turned as a dagger against us, and can't be turned into a weapon against the Lion. Also has to not require that they trust us.

No, wait. The Wasp aren't here. They can't put up anything. That means that she's instead shooting on behalf of the Mantis. That changes how much she cares personally (in somewhat unpredictable ways) and absolutely changes what sorts of gifts-to-clan might be well-received. It's also good, as "what the mantis want" is both easier to figure out and closer to useful than just getting on the archer's good side.

Ehhh... I still got nothing. The default plan gets a lot more palatable, though. It won't really achieve anything, but it'll also raise exactly zero eyebrows. Might as well flip to Courtier, though. The Mantis seem like the sort that might appreciate a homegrown Bayushi courtier or two. They're worth more, but the delegations that might want them are running kind of shallow at this court, while the more militant types have come out in force.


(current working plan. Suggestions/feedback welcomed - indeed, eagerly invited)


[x] Bowman's Wager: Compete yourself
[x] Bowman's Prize: A slot in the Bayushi Courtier school
[x] Primary Action: Focus on Daidoji Chen.
-[x] Try to reestablish common ground after the damage done to both our delegations. Be ready to help, if the opportunity comes up.
[x] Secondary Action: make sure that Yogo-san and Shosuro-san know everything you've managed to figure out so far about the face-stealers. It is critically important that this information makes it back to the clan, and if they are attacked again, any bit of it might help. Put together a letter to be sent back to your superiors, laying out what you know of the Nothing. Ask Shosuro-san to code it under a letter about recent events - which they'll *also* need to know about. If you can find reliable means to send it now, do so.
[x] Secondary action: Compose and deliver an apology letter to the Kaiu.
[x] Yogo action: keep working on the Dragon and/or Unicorn (his choice). If he can find anything that any of them might need, that would be great, though it's not necessarily expected. Otherwise, just keep working those social links.
[x] Shosuro action: Take the time to rebuild his organization, if need be. If that's doing fine, then work on trying to find out more about the face-stealers. Maybe they have something to do with the rebels?
 
I was going to say that we should probably skip this one, but them remembered that we have another martial competition coming up, and we will not want to go on that one.


So yes... let's get it on..

[X] Sirrocco

Should we try to get a slot in a Crane or Phoenix school?
 
I was going to say that we should probably skip this one, but them remembered that we have another martial competition coming up, and we will not want to go on that one.


So yes... let's get it on..

[X] Sirrocco

Should we try to get a slot in a Crane or Phoenix school?
For the wager? If we win, we get it all. If we lose, we get nothing. As far as trades go, the school positions are basically tokens we can trade around to curry favor, on the one side, and tokens we can take back home to our Lords on the other. They're not worth scheming for specifically, though it is worth paying attention to who might want one or the other more, and who would find them flattering, and so forth. It's also worth noting that they're useful symbols of interclan amity - the more swapping you have going on, the more likely you are to have people who can get along with each other in another generation, and that has symbolic value. As an example, if we walk out of this Winter Court, and we don't have at least one Matsu Berserker slot, and we haven't traded away at least one Bayushi Bushi slot to the Lion, we've probably done something wrong. Our upcoming discussion with Daidoji Chen might well have some swapping as well - likely, even. Possibly courtier for courtier and/or actor for artisan.

Various points of note...
- The phoenix will probably want at least one of our shugenja school slots. Their "study of magic" schtick benefits from having multiple perspectives to look from.
- Other than that, our shugenja school is notable for being stealthy
- Bushi school is useful mostly as a way of building bonds with military clans, and should be used as such. Mostly Unicorn, Crab, and Lion, though the Mantis might appreciate them.
- Our Magistrate school isn't worth all that much right now, which means we should hold it in hand. If we can achieve some sort of stunning victory over one of our more secretive foes, and credit it to what we picked up from growing up in a family of magistrates... it could suddenly be worth a fair bit more in certain quiet discussions
- Our Courtier School is valued (and feared) and particularly good at tearing down people who have things to hide. The Crane will want it, anyone trying to build up a diplomatic presence will want it, and anyone who really likes the idea of walking up to the courtiers from other clans and slipping in the knife will want it.
- Our acting school is seen as, essentially, a generic artisan school, with a focus on acting. This is good, and what we want. Thus, it'll trade like that - mostly useful to those who have established court presences of the sort that can make use of the sort of courtier support an artisan brings. Mostly, I'd think Crane or Lion - they might work well in concert with the Ikoma. Mantis might also find them useful, depending on how aggressively they're trying to build up courtier power.

In general, we'll want to trade for military schools from the military types (it's something of a bonding ritual), courtier schools from those that have decent courtier schools (because sometimes it's useful to attack from multiple directions at once).
 
[x] Bowman's Wager: Compete yourself
[x] Bowman's Prize: A slot in the Bayushi Courtier school
[x] Primary Action: Focus on Daidoji Chen.
-[x] Try to reestablish common ground after the damage done to both our delegations. Be ready to help, if the opportunity comes up.
[x] Secondary Action: make sure that Yogo-san and Shosuro-san know everything you've managed to figure out so far about the face-stealers. It is critically important that this information makes it back to the clan, and if they are attacked again, any bit of it might help. Put together a letter to be sent back to your superiors, laying out what you know of the Nothing. Ask Shosuro-san to code it under a letter about recent events - which they'll *also* need to know about. If you can find reliable means to send it now, do so.
[x] Secondary action: Compose and deliver an apology letter to the Kaiu.
[x] Yogo action: keep working on the Dragon and/or Unicorn (his choice). If he can find anything that any of them might need, that would be great, though it's not necessarily expected. Otherwise, just keep working those social links.
[x] Shosuro action: Take the time to rebuild his organization, if need be. If that's doing fine, then work on trying to find out more about the face-stealers. Maybe they have something to do with the rebels?
 
- The next one after that is Bowman's Wager. At this point, we'd make a pretty decent showing of ourselves, if we chose to enter. We *might* win it. Winning it might be worthwhile for the things that we would win. Merely doing well, however, is probably counterproductive. It's fame we don't need. Basically, we should go big or go home, and of the two, I think we should go home.
I do not think this had changed.


[x] Bowman's Wager: Seek out another to compete on behalf of your Clan:
-[x] From among the Lion: Matsu Ginwei, the man who saved our life. This is a chance for Glory, let him have it. We risk nothing and have a lot to gain. Do remember the Lion Damiyo was being covered by our boss. We need to establish lines of comunication.
[x] Bowman's Prize: A slot in the Shosuro Acting school.
[x] Primary Action: Focus on the Lion. Try your hand with Kitsu Ami, we been helpful before.
-[x] Try to establish common ground after the damage done to our delegation and based on our help so far. Be ready to help an investigation, if the opportunity comes up. Even if it may not be the investigation we would idealy want to help with. If she is so focused chasing after the assasins, her people may not have the time for lesser concerns. (If the damiyo has given up the idea that we were behind the assasination she may allow as to help find the assasins.)
[x] Secondary Action: make sure that Shosuro-san knows everything you've managed to figure out so far about the face-stealers. It is critically important that this information makes it back to the clan, and if they are attacked again, any bit of it might help. Put together a letter to be sent back to your superiors, laying out what you know of the Nothing. Ask Shosuro-san to code it under a letter about recent events - which they'll *also* need to know about. If you can find reliable means to send it now, do so.
[x] Secondary action: Compose and deliver an apology letter to the Kaiu.
[x] Secondary Action: Get a report on what Yogo has been doing with the Dragon and the Unicorn.
[x] Yogo action: keep working on the Dragon and/or Unicorn (his choice). If he can find anything that any of them might need, that would be great, though it's not necessarily expected. If he thinks it is possible, he should attempt to develop a ward that would detect the faceless ones, since a jade strike apparently did not work. If such a ward can be developed, we will find some pretext to use it on our new accomodations. And perhaps more.
[x] Shosuro action: Take the time to rebuild his organization, if need be. If that's doing fine, then work on trying to find out more about the face-stealers or where the thing wearing our face got to.


@Maugan Ra: I may be wrong, but we are clear on the subject of assasinating our boss as far as the Matsu are officialy concerned, right?

@Sirrocco: I think a far better use of our time is not partaking in the wager. If nothing else, we hide a useful skill. Also, it is unsemlly that the head of the delegation competes, espetially if we lose it will reflect poorly on the Scorpion as a whole. You want to look weak before the Lion? I'd rather not.

While there is something to be said for facing the chalange head on, the Matsu would appreaciate that, doing so and losing? Not so much. Telling Yogo about our stuff makes me uncomfortable. We are not that close with him, and the last time he was troubled we were unable to reach him. I think we should be somewhat wary of him. Has he discharged his curse? Do we know that? What if he fell in bloody love here in court?

I think we need to focus on the Lion as primary for now. Just until things settle down a bit.

We do need to touch base with Daidoji, but we might be taking on too much stuff to do in just two days. We can reach out to him in the following couple of days and honestly say we were trying to settle things down with everyone else, trusting his aliance to weather the storm.

EDIT: On the subject of the acting school: The Mantis Courtiers are expert of intimidation. I do not think an trained actor would help them. I think what the Scorpion in that school could learn from the student sent there will benefit the Scorpion a lot more then what the Mantis can do with a trained actor.

EDIT2: We have no clue what Yogo has been doing with the Dragon and the Unicorn. We need to have a talk with him on the subject. Now that we are his boss, we need to know.
 
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-[x] From among the Lion: Matsu Ginwei, the man who saved our life. This is a chance for Glory, let him have it. We risk nothing and have a lot to gain. Do remember the Lion Damiyo was being covered by our boss. We need to establish lines of comunication.
Didn't we fight a duel with him and he tried to kill us in it early on?

Or did something happen in between then and now? It's been a while.
 
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Yeah, then when we were drunk after the Banquet and we got caught by a Matsu patrol he was the one with the Honor to stand proud and refuse to kill us like an honorless dog. He was a Matsu doing Matsu things when he tried to teach a villan Scorpion a leasson during a formal bout. It was stupid, not a plot to end us. The defeat probably shook him, but he has shown backbone since.

At some point we should reward him for being a good samurai. Rewarding people who save your life is common sense. It encourages others to do so as well.

EDIT: And turning enemies to friends when you are surounded by Lions is probably a good stance to have.
 
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