fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
I want to channel and see a new side of Jade.
Ignition (MTG/Multicross, Planeswalker PC)
- Thread starter Alivaril
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- fairy tail magi: the labyrinth of magic magic the gathering magical girl lyrical nanoha (magical girl) puella magi madoka magica rwby alternate universe spoilers unreliable narrator earned your happy middle feedback appreciated life slowly gets better metaknowledge is overrated never too much fire setting knowledge not required this can only end well what could possibly go wrong?
DB_Explorer
Purveyor of alternate realities.
- Location
- San Diego, California
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- He/Him
We must befriend Hayate before going to Girl Genius.
Use some common sense.
What's going to happen if Jade jumps straight to an excuse like birthday present shopping? She isn't in the right mind to bring it up other than as a blindingly obvious excuse. And not to mention, Sidhe and Agneyasta are both in on this. There's no easy way out other than making sure Jade is in a comfortable social situation rather than an awkward one. And that means letting someone's natural tendencies take charge, whether that's Nanoha being able to drag Jade around (she's not going to be stupid and force romance, you're reading that wrong), or Jade dragging others around with specific objectives in mind, or our literal bog standard New Plane Shopping that Jade will be familiar enough with to do by rote.
If you want to manage how the outgoing goes, don't manage what's done, manage the people factor. Basic lesson from much earlier in the quest when we had to handle depressed scared Jade, but same applies here.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
I don't see any reason that has to happen first. Better if we have established a safe place on GG first.
DB_Explorer
Purveyor of alternate realities.
- Location
- San Diego, California
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Vebyast
Nascent Transhuman
[X] SynchronizedWritersBlock
I agree with the analysis. The best way to handle this is to ensure it goes as smoothly as possible, I think that Nanoha knows not to push, and we can trust Agneyastra and Mitra to catch Nanoha if she does slip.
I agree with the analysis. The best way to handle this is to ensure it goes as smoothly as possible, I think that Nanoha knows not to push, and we can trust Agneyastra and Mitra to catch Nanoha if she does slip.
...Well played, Nanoha, well played.
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- Location
- Germany
Sidhe might be shipping them, but there may just as well be another reason she bowed out, like Nanoha fabricating an excuse.
Agneyastra's avatar on the other hand wasn't at the hospital to begin with - how is she in on this? Besides, mom agreed to crush Nanoha's crush until we're ready, there's no way she would set something like this up.
Which a birthday present counts as, so I don't see the problem?
Well, I'm also voting to clear Jade's mind with a burst of Blue. What we're currently seeing is Jade being emotionally compromised from channeling Neph, but we can shut that down.
@Alivaril: Actually, can we just clear our mind with a direct burst of Blue or do we have to channel Blue for a moment?
[jk] Summon a copy of Yuuno and take him for a walk.
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The problem is you're missing how we get from A to B. Look at the end of update options - those represent the tone and mindset any vote will be taken in. Any kind of magical assistance, direct jump to an excuse, whatever, Jade isn't capable of it. The correct response (as shown by successfully handling Jade in the past) is to reset to something comfortable and not flustered (or whatever, embarrassed, angry, suicidal, terrified, we've been all of these) before attempting a solution. A natural back off that doesn't risk doubling down on escalating like any form of channeling does.
Sidhe might be shipping them, but there may just as well be another reason she bowed out, like Nanoha making an excuse.
Agneyastra's avatar on the other hand wasn't at the hospital to begin with - how is she in on this? Besides, mom agreed to crush Nanoha's crush until we're ready, there's no way she would set something like this up.
Well, I'm also voting to clear Jade's mind with a burst of Blue. What we're currently seeing is Jade being emotionally compromised from channeling Neph, but we can shut that down.
Which a birthday present counts as, so I don't see the problem?
We did this when we were mad at Sidhe channeling, when we needed to confront Agneyasta, when the time the crush came up the other way... just as a few examples. It works. What doesn't work is pushing.
- Location
- Germany
Which Blue does...
You mean when we channeled Blue as well and thus were somewhat calmer?
Or the time we let her cry while dealing with a pidgeon?
I really don't understand how clearing your head and deflecting is pushing. Enlighten me, please.
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- Location
- A Table Near You
What a fiend. Neph baited Jade into accidentally asking Nanoha out on a totally-not-a-date, and more importantly, ensured Jade was aware of it.
Also, excellent in-character way of handling not telling Nanoha about the demigod thing yet @Alivaril. Jade's avoiding the topic for now because it's way too embarrassing, especially in the current context.
Well, that's one way to work in the discussion about channeling new colors.
Oh Jade, you sweet summer child.
Black may be even worse than Red here, because Black will be completely shameless about pursuing something it wants.
[X] Just point Nanoha in the right direction, or get Mitra to, and let yourself be pulled along.
-[X] Also, the truth. Looking for new magic to study, items both useful and whimsical, maybe a birthday present for Sidhe or not - you have some other half-formed ideas -, any interesting people you meet...
Good write-in, no complaints.
[X] Try to channel White. If White-you is as boring as her color, she won't have the slightest interest in your emotions. Just what you need right now.
Fairly sure it won't pass the vote, but I'm also fine with trying to channel White if anybody wants to. Curious to see if it will work, and what White!Jade does in a situation like this.
Plus, we're clearly venturing into romcom territory, so might as well play the part by blatantly overreacting in an attempt to keep our cool.
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Nixeu
Lord of Madness, Harbinger of Llamas
- Location
- Your nightmares.
This may just be how Jade actually feels, you know. Neph and Nanoha's teasing aside, her
mental dialog certainly seems to indicate as much.
Reality is the keyword here. Might want to re-tool your hypothesis, there.
...What? I said I'd stay out of the parts I'm not suited to handle. Never said anything about not correcting people/pointing out contradicting evidence. I am well suited for that.
See, things like this are why I'm unqualified to handle this. Because I will happily sow chaos for the sake of humor, if in the mood for it. My twisted sense of humor is going to get me in trouble some day.Plus, we're clearly venturing into romcom territory, so we might as well play the part by blatantly overreacting in an attempt to keep our cool.
Lmao
No, I mean well after when we stopped considering modifying anyone's minds. You know, when we told her we'd talk later, composed ourselves, made a plan of what to say, and actually talked to understand instead of pure lecture.
Every color we've seen is horrifically impulsive, blue is no exception.
Have you read what we think when we channel? Blue looks for direct controlling solutions. It is the exact opposite of a clear head.
- Location
- Bowling Green
[X] Try to channel Black. Black-you won't possibly be interested in a relationship, right?
I really just want to see Black Jade.
I really just want to see Black Jade.
- Location
- A Table Near You
Well, no worries there, because White is clearly the opposite of chaos.
I could see Jade on white making overly formal romantic overtures. It'd be hilarious from an outside perspective.
- Location
- London, 1935. August.
- Pronouns
- She/Her
[X] Just point Nanoha in the right direction, or get Mitra to, and let yourself be pulled along.
-[X] Also, the truth. Looking for new magic to study, items both useful and whimsical, maybe a birthday present for Sidhe or not - you have some other half-formed ideas -, any interesting people you meet...
-[X] Also, the truth. Looking for new magic to study, items both useful and whimsical, maybe a birthday present for Sidhe or not - you have some other half-formed ideas -, any interesting people you meet...
*blinks* I'm pleasantly surprised by Sidhe's advances. A few days ago we leaving the plane didn't faze her (although I believed at the time it was because Nanoha was still with her) and now she just saif goodbye without problem.
I guess the Retainer contract helps a lot to reassure her.
[X] Just point Nanoha in the right direction, or get Mitra to, and let yourself be pulled along.
-[X] Also, the truth. Looking for new magic to study, items both useful and whimsical, maybe a birthday present for Sidhe or not - you have some other half-formed ideas -, any interesting people you meet...
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
That's fine then we are watching from the outside.
- Location
- Germany
... We've seen Red and Blue so far, and Blue definitely wasn't impulsive.
Muted emotions.
Discarding options Jade wouldn't accept.
Didn't take any action.
That's what you're call impulsive? *snort*
Besides, I'm not proposing to use Blue for decision making, but a short burst for the emotional dampening.
May, yes. But Jade herself wondered whether Neph is still leaking through:
Since Neph commented twice after the channel, it's quite likely she still somewhat affects Jade's emotions.
@Filraen: Oh woe is me, how could you betray our vote?
Um... I think, that counts as relying on personality overlays.
Vebyast
Nascent Transhuman
Thinking is an action. Jade now has memories of herself considering radical self-modification and only holding off because it wouldn't be sufficiently permanent.
You're also assuming that Jade won't do any thinking while channeling. If you want her to clear her mind and meditate, vote for that. Shoving mana into Jade's thoughts and praying she does exactly what you say she will isn't going to do what you want.
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Very much so. Consideration of options that Jade wouldn't otherwise, discarded only on practical grounds, is 100% a different type of impulsive.