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Hybrid Hive: Eat Shard? (Worm/MGLN) (Complete)

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Eternaly_Lost said:
That assuming that the layer around the core would make a fully functional linker core. As I see it, all you need is some sort of barrier that wouldn't allow mana to pass to build a support structure and just whatever the outer walls of the Linker core is to reinforce it. Not what you need to make an entire one, unless for some odd reason the linker core doesn't have layers to it.

I'm think of it sort of like the skin on a animal. If it cut and bleeding, but still alive, you only need to patch it up. Not rebuild all the insides of the creature.
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What about Amy? We know she has a Linker Core – if Hive were to reformat Shaper into a hybrid Device, could Amy then use that to fix Assault's Core?

dracklor said:
Huh, now I feel bad for the alien parasites. Poor QA just wanted to give Taylor friends, little buggy friends, but friends all the same.

And now she's been devoured by an invisible alien menace from beyond space and time as the Shardnet knows it...

Rather apropos considering their species plans, but I still kind of feel bad for them. I blame all the puppy QA jokes from back in the day, and Alivaril's recent fics starring QA.
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*shrugs* At least QA is actually HELPING now, instead of HALPING?
 
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ExaltedNekoKun said:
... what?

Linker Core atrophy has to probably do with a combination of not using the Linker Core, like ever (so like a muscle) and Environmental Mana Scarcity, as there is so little mana in the environment the Linker Core will just starve unless it is exercised enough to be self-sufficient or, if you're insane, reinforced the way Hive does it.

While there might potentially be a biological connection to Linker Cores as a trait, I imagine they're more like F/SN's Prana Circuits. They're pseudo biological, and more of a mutation of the soul interacting with the biological.

That and Shaper cannot see/process Linker Cores, it is Amy herself who can detect them and potentially interact with them in the future. I suspect that Shaper will be all but useless beyond spying on her efforts with regards to anything she does.
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Linker cores are biologic in some way, and Shaper is compelling Amy to try to figure out how to create them. If she can create one she can probably learn to repair one, since her power allows her to directly interface with biology, though her actually being able to create one is a big question mark and likely will require a combination of shard and mana techniques. Shaper cannot see them, but a device can, and if Shaper gets eaten... well, gives them access to effectively limitless direct biologic manipulation that can see linker cores.

This is not something Hive would know about when giving his current assessment of a sputtering core. I do not expect it to all be smooth sailing, though.
 
@CmptrWz - What information did Hive get from the solar system scan? Anything Minerva could put on her '.magic' website in a 'Google: solar system' style?
 
Eternaly_Lost said:
As I recall, the TSAB lost a lot of knowledge in the wars that predated it. Belka might have that knowledge and it could just be that Hive has the means to apply the such repairs to linker cores that was lost to them, but she lost the knowledge of how to do so, just like the other things she lost due to her own damage. She was able to apply a field booster to Taylor's linker core after all, and somehow I get the feeling that not a normal thing a Unison device could do.

The TSAB might very well have the materials to repair a linker core, but no idea how to apply them to a linker core since the tools to do such were lost and no one knows how to remake them.

There also a big difference between this Linker Core has been damaged due to training, injury, overuse of cartage boosters etc, and a Linker core that has Atrophied from lack of use.

One is injury far outside of normal use. The other just comes from not using it for a long time and might be far easier to fix. It not been directly damaged, just not used. There a big difference in terms to treat, and this sort of thing if it happens in TSAB space should be common enough that if there is an easy fix they would know of it.

Nanoha's training isn't exactly common or something that happens to a person naturally over time.

Although I get the feeling that this entire thing is just a plot point by CmptrWz, otherwise there is 0 reason for Assault to not get himself upgraded like Missy did. His medical exam in 2 months is an extremely weak excuse to not do such after all. So if there is any cure to come, it will be post story sort of deal.
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Belka likely did have knowledge of manipulating linker cores and magic. Enough that the Belkan kaisers could effectively engineer themselves to create inheritable magic and traits such as the Kaiserfarbe (the distinctive rainbow color of magic that Vivio possesses) or the inheriting of memory and skills (the Hegemon of Sutra's bloodline), or mana conversion affinity (fire, lightning, and ice).
 
Byzantine said:
Linker cores are biologic in some way, and Shaper is compelling Amy to try to figure out how to create them. If she can create one she can probably learn to repair one, since her power allows her to directly interface with biology, though her actually being able to create one is a big question mark and likely will require a combination of shard and mana techniques. Shaper cannot see them, but a device can, and if Shaper gets eaten... well, gives them access to effectively limitless direct biologic manipulation that can see linker cores.

This is not something Hive would know about when giving his current assessment of a sputtering core. I do not expect it to all be smooth sailing, though.
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I always got the impression that linker cores are metaphysical organs rather then physical ones. Which makes the whole mana battery thing a bit odd, granted.
 
EiosChronos said:
Even in canon Nanoha, they don't have the means to repair heavy damage to linker cores. When Nanoha's linker core was damaged in between A's and StrikerS, the only response after surgery was pretty much hope that time will hopefully heal it, but thought that she would probably never do magic again, or even walk. They considered it a damn miracle that she was able to move around, let alone get back up to and beyond the point she had been at.
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Emphasis added. Which would seem to make it clear that they do have the resources to do some things along those lines. Can they definitely fix Assault's core? Doubtful. Can they at least attempt to stabilize it in a safe manner, albeit with a below 100% chance of success? Actually yeah, they probably can.

It's almost certain that he'll never have the same magical capacity he was born with, but it's also quite possible that with their help he could eventually be capable of casting a few low-end spells. We don't have enough information to say.
 
CmptrWz said:
The network calmed somewhat, confident that so long as hosts didn't attack the one that Administrator had originally chosen then they were safe. Misplaced confidence that they would be able to sit back and observe. Until Spatial Manipulator had transmitted in panic, attempting to enact emergency disconnection, before being silenced. Administrator's chosen host hadn't been anywhere near, nor had Spatial Manipulator's host been attacking anyone.

It was possible that none of them connected to a host were safe, and neither of the controllers were reacting.

The implications of that had barely begun to make their way around the network when Skimmer's host had attacked Administrator's chosen. They found out that whatever the mysterious energies were, they could affect matter that had been shifted out of the way to skim along the material world. It was useful, but was followed by Skimmer being taken. Either there were multiple things responsible, or it wasn't tied to the one member of the host species.
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If I understand it right 'Spatial Manipulator' is Missy's shard, and 'Skimmer' is Sophia's. Maybe my memory is failing me, but I thought Sophia lost her shard before Missy, not the other way around?

Or, maybe I'm just getting confused...
 
Ace Dreamer said:
If I understand it right 'Spatial Manipulator' is Missy's shard, and 'Skimmer' is Sophia's. Maybe my memory is failing me, but I thought Sophia lost her shard before Missy, not the other way around?

Or, maybe I'm just getting confused...
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Your confused. Missy lost her shard back on May 7th(Chapter 33-34), Sophia attacked Taylor, and thus losing her own shard, on May 13th (Chapter 37-38), almost a week later and Missy had already recovered enough to start learning magic.

Hive was going to give Taylor a third booster after Sophia's attack, but held off because the expected endbringer attack. Right now Taylor at 2 out of 7 slots filled in her linker core boosters with Hive ready to apply one for her. Missy at 1 out of a small number, likely 4 or 5, given Hive said it was smaller but not massive smaller. Hive might have enough materials to also give Missy a booster as well now, she did indicate that each Shard has more than enough materials for a single booster, without indicating exactly how much more.
 
Every other shard: [BROADCAST]...[Help!]...[Contact!]...[WARRIOR] [Now!]


[BROADCAST] producing a planetary sized excrement: [You have called BROADCAST, but sadly nobody's at home right now, you can leave a message when you heard the beep!]... [BEEP!]

Jack Slash: *Why the hell I keep hearing this sound in my mind all the time?*

Loki Thorson said:
You know... with Battery essentially vaguely spilling the beans about how she received her powers, I'm surprised the bogeyman herself didn't suddenly appear to start a clean-up.
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Zombie PtV, to Contessa: [Nothing is wrong in BB, do you hear me, NOTHING!]

Contessa: "Path to keep Cauldron a secret"

Zombie PtV: [1st: STAY AS FAR FROM BROCKTON BAY AS POSSIBLE!]...[2nd: STAY THERE!]...[Plis I want to keep being undead for quite a lot longer...]
 
theaceoffire said:
... Don't make me SAD that Taylor is alive and happy!

Sigh, I should have known that if someone is happy in WORM, a network alien slave race is fearing a ghost murderer.
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One story's hero is another story's villain...
Eternaly_Lost said:
His medical exam in 2 months is an extremely weak excuse to not do such after all.
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That's part of "Battery won't let him go get his powers taken, because his lack of corona pollentia/gemma might be noticed even if everything else works out okay".
MTB said:
@CmptrWz - What information did Hive get from the solar system scan? Anything Minerva could put on her '.magic' website in a 'Google: solar system' style?
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Possibly, but they have no reason to (and that would tell anyone who wanted to know who did it...)
Sleepyfoo said:
I thought Missy couldn't fill the expanded space with material. Shouldn't the table have split, or some air have been sucked in an the table only looking expanded? Or did I misunderstand Missy's mass issues, and solids were easier to extend?
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She can't fill expanded spaces with gas. The actual warping of space can expand physical materials that don't just slide out of the way by adjusting them on higher dimensions temporarily.
 
It makes me wonder... if Hive were to eat Numerical Analysis would they then be able to produce a refined calculation module that could help Missy with her math troubles? Maybe a math tutor or a co-processor?
 
Tin Mother said:
It makes me wonder... if Hive were to eat Numerical Analysis would they then be able to produce a refined calculation module that could help Missy with her math troubles? Maybe a math tutor or a co-processor?
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She already has one in Space. The problem is that like Taylor and Nanoha but unlike most mages in areas where magic is commonly available, she wants to be able to cast unassisted and know the math behind the spellcasting.

That's what Devices do, as I understand it; they run the "programs" for the spells while the mages provide the power, so the mage only has to worry about applications, not spell equations. Think in terms of the difference between using a computer program and writing one. Also, think of designing new or modified spells with the aid of a device as being like using a high level language like Pascal or FORTRAN, or perhaps like using C, as opposed to what Taylor does on her own which is more like Assembly or even (*shudder*) Machine Code. Trust me, there's nothing quite as anti-intuitive as writing out code in hexadecimal or, if you are a true masochist, binary....

If Missy learns to let Space handle the math while she provides direction and control, then she would be an excellent practical Mage. Just not much of a spell creator. Unfortunately, Taylor has had to design many of her spells from the ground up, and thus has the mindset that a Mage must also be a Spell Designer. Not a bad thing in someone that can leverage their ability to add S's to their effective rating, but not needed for the majority of mages by any means.
 
FaerieKnight79 said:
I always got the impression that linker cores are metaphysical organs rather then physical ones. Which makes the whole mana battery thing a bit odd, granted.
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There wasn't much explanation what Linker Core is really is. But personally I'm like the theory that LC is essentially a breach to Dimensional Sea inside a mage. Something like the connection of the parahumans with their Shards. But probably with internal storage (receiver)? Or the main determinants of the core are not storage capacity, but features such as how much mana the Core can process per unit of time and how long it can do it with maximum output before it collapse.
 
So. The Collective Lifeform Cosmic Horrors from the deepest depths of space are now having their own Cosmic Horror story. It's a Cosmic Horror story happening to the Cosmic Horrors. And I want to hug those Cosmic Horrors and tell them it will be alright. It's Cosmic Horror Inception. And my Hug filters need to be updated.
 
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