bigpianist
alcoholic
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- Gensokyo
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Hold It In (RWBY/Transistor)
- Thread starter Prok
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- Crossover
Prok
Go play Star Fetchers
- Location
- Scotland
Nope!
Even ignoring Reboot()'s... less than stellar interaction with living organic material, the wound is simply too old for it to properly reconstruct what was there, and just copying over her other eye is... well, uncanny valley worthy. Even Teal couldn't do anything about it, in case, you know, the fact she didn't have it fixed at Signal didn't tell you anything about that can of worms.
If the option to fix her eye comes up, it will be after some long, long, long talks, and one dead Boriah.
All this is assuming she doesn't just say 'eh, I'm used to it now,' and move on, of course.
Animation is more about learning how to use a program, you know, the Remnant equivalent of After Effects or something, and honestly, you will learn how to use it within the confines of the job timeslot itself.
Town stuff is what you do if you wanna meet people before canon rears its ugly head, or gather stuff to learn new skills.
As for your job concerns, the main focus of any and all of those jobs, is to acquire moolah. Which will become important soon. Venturing out of your little cave of coding is just a side benefit.
You can. Because it's technically a sword.
Technically being a sword, however, unlike being technically correct, is the worst kind of sword. Much like Guts and the Dragonslayer, it's more like a club than a sword, you're not actually gonna cut anything with it.
Besides, wouldn't you rather train using a sword with, you know, an actual sword?
The best kind of sword?
... I'm sickened, but curious.
Mostly sickened.
Actually, entirely sickened.
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Tiypo
Forever Phone Posting
Hmmm... how hard would it be for us to build a prosthetic eye/mini-assistant for her, based on our experience with the Transistor? She was jealous of what it could do afterall.
CaesriusPolybius
Worldgate Mechanic
- Location
- United States. Ish.
[X] Acquire Moolah- You may not have bills, but some extra dosh never killed a man. At least, the man making it. Take one of the jobs you've found. {Ahem.}
-[X] Software installation- go to a place and install the latest SDC OS on the network, while preserving files and such for transferral. This actually requires leaving your hermit hole. (8000 Lien- takes three timeslots.)
-[X] Software installation- go to a place and install the latest SDC OS on the network, while preserving files and such for transferral. This actually requires leaving your hermit hole. (8000 Lien- takes three timeslots.)
bigpianist
alcoholic
- Location
- Gensokyo
That image was a simulation game where you keep magical talking pastries inside a terrarium. They're called Yukkuri, and are mainly based off of Touhou characters. Some people keep them as pets, but there are wild yukkuri. Their name literally means "easy" because the goal of yukkuri generally is to "take it easy." The fandom doesn't follow a strict set of rules, but there are common ideas in storytelling about their biology, social structure, powers, morality, and lots of details regarding how they interact with the world. Yukkuri appear in videos, webcomics, fanfics, and games, but they're not canon. It ranges from 100% family friendly fluff, to outright torture porn. Lots of fun stories fall in the middle of the spectrum, but it may involve mature subject matter. Things like abandonment, violence, exploitation, crime, etc.
I didn't even notice the pin stuck inside the Reimu in the image until you commented. I thought I was giving them a stern lecturing, and it made them cry. I just tested it. There's a bug in this version. I select between the two options, and it doesn't apply the right one, at least when it comes to the Reimu, who got a pin instead, because of the programming.
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But does that actually help us with other things like functions? Because I thought the whole functions thing was seperate from regular programming. That and Jaune is planning on being a hunter not a programmer hence asking if it's actually relevent to our semblance in anyway and people are assuming it is.
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ChildishChimera
A umbran summon
- Location
- New York
Wait slight question why do people want to use our club like a sword it's a 300 pound monster? Wouldn't it be easier to just get better at telekinesis since we'd have more control of it or gunning the thing we're actually good at?
ADeshantis
King on the Chromium Throne
- Location
- United states
Drafting a function that manifests a blade around the sword made of hard light seems pretty simple. And technique stops skilled combatants from disarming us.
ChildishChimera
A umbran summon
- Location
- New York
If they can disarm us we can literally call it back to our hand with or make a function that makes it act like a bound weapon and have it warp to our hand. Plus if their close enough to disarm us their close enough to get shot in the face, also we can make our swords I'd rather learn a sword style that uses a clone to carry it as a partner since that thing is heavy.
ADeshantis
King on the Chromium Throne
- Location
- United states
Before we can try to learn Kage Bunshin or anything stupid we need our fundamentals down. We don't have that right now. Footwork is most of swordplay. We need that skill.
NexysDhyArchen
Throne Breaker
I'd rather Jaune learn to use a sword and wield the Transistor in his off hand, so he can in the future go Sir Raime in combat. Use his canon sword for melee combat and the Transistor to Semblance fuck a target when needed. Because, really, it doesn't sound too much like Jaune would need fine control to use Functions. And in that set up there isn't any reason he couldn't have his fold out shield on the Transistor arm either, right?
ADeshantis
King on the Chromium Throne
- Location
- United states
Besides encumbrance penalties, no. But sweet Lord the encumbrance penalties.
NexysDhyArchen
Throne Breaker
[o] Code Function: Swole()
- Location
- A state of cleverness
IIRC the "copy the sword" debate that the only way Jaune's making another AI is basically cannabalizing the sword which is uhhh... Besides, cybereyes would call for brain surgery. I don't think that's a skill we want to assume Jaune has. Period.
@bigpianist: Oh god someone actually made a game out of those abominations? I will not take it easy.
So serious question: since Jaune isn't Guts, why are people still voting for swordsmanship? Seriously what is the endgoal there, swordsmanship won't make him better with the Transistor.
ADeshantis
King on the Chromium Throne
- Location
- United states
You really think someone like Raven or Cinder or whatever scorpion dude's name was can't keep Jaune from recalling the Transistor with Telekinesis? If there was a focused "don't fucking get disarmed" skill... Well, no, I'd still support swordsmanship. It helps us with combat between Turn()s and makes us less reliant on Functionmancy.
Velvet could hypothetically use her weapon (and Semblance? Not sure if that was her Semblance or not) on everything and faceroll. But she learned unarmed combat to the "punch Grimm, break Grimm" level so she can keep her weapon in reserve. By contrast, Ruby knows how to fight with Crescent Rose and that's it, and she's already (in the main series) been deprived of it twice and rendered little more than a durable civilian.
Which of these people do we want to be?
Now that I think about it, forget swords. Let's learn Kung Fu.
Velvet could hypothetically use her weapon (and Semblance? Not sure if that was her Semblance or not) on everything and faceroll. But she learned unarmed combat to the "punch Grimm, break Grimm" level so she can keep her weapon in reserve. By contrast, Ruby knows how to fight with Crescent Rose and that's it, and she's already (in the main series) been deprived of it twice and rendered little more than a durable civilian.
Which of these people do we want to be?
Now that I think about it, forget swords. Let's learn Kung Fu.
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Tiypo
Forever Phone Posting
I mean a natural language interpreter a bit better than the ones in current smart phones, not a true AI. Biological interface aside, Jaunes experience building the Transistor should have taught him how to cram a camera a computer to manage it into a pretty small package. As for surgery, we can probably talk to some experts, or our sister, or bullshit it to just stream data into her mind via Aura shinanigans.
- Location
- A state of cleverness
Not without breaking it. And that's not a game ender. And the don't get disarmed skill is probably Athletics.
Winter.
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Now THIS I can get behind!
I invite you to imagine how that poorly those conversations are going to go. At best the doctor thinks it's a prank, at worst Jaune's sister thinks his mad scientist tendencies have moved onto other people as they always feared it would. EDIT: Though, thinking about it, that whole string of conversations would be pretty freaking funny even if nothing came of it...
Ada's dealt with her eye, it's no longer something that needs to be "fixed".
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Yep, the main problem we have with the Transistor is getting disarmed and not having our functions available. Because without either we are pretty much screwed, especially against high tier opponents. I mean there is a difference between TKing a sword around and swinging a sword with skill and there is also the issue of using TK to move our sword for long range leaving us extremely vulnerable, especially against multiple people who would shoot at us. Seriously, if we were fighting someone like Jaune the obvious tactic would be pretty obvious and effective for people that knew how our power worked.
Thinking we might want to grab Crocea Mors as a back up weapon which gives us swordsmanship and makes using the Transistor TK style less stupid and not leaving us anywhere near as vulnerable, especially with the shield letting us block attacks while we TK our Transistor at range. That said we might just want to get Cache() so that we can just store the Transistor in pocket space until we need functions to remove the whole vulneribility thing with it.
Tiypo
Forever Phone Posting
I don't see what's so creepy about going to a professional and saying "I want to cosult you on building a prosthetic eye for my friend who is missing one. If you doubt my abilities to create such an object here is my sword which I made to function as an auxiliary brain for my semblance, I want this to be much simpler than that." Additionally, I don't believe that Jaune knows if Ada is okay with how things are even if he can guess she's used to it, there is a big difference between those.
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- A state of cleverness
Okay look, I've been treating your idea like a joke and that's rude. Let me ask you this: do you see making Ada an eye as a favor that can be done in Jaune's spare time? If yes, let's end this conversation because we're not taking it seriously.
If you ARE serious about making Ada a new eye, the first step is to drop out of Beacon. Jaune is familiar with programming and OOPArt sword maintenance, he doesn't know nearly enough about biology, engineering or optics to start on a cybereye and the only way he'll get that knowledge is by researching full time. Once he understands how eyes perceive the world and interact with the brain it's time to focus on cameras and miniaturization to ensure a full suite of vision inside a device that fits into an eye socket, as well as engineering so the eye actually can move. Oh and then there's figuring out how to prevent infections and how to maintain a robot eye (keep it in the skull or pop it out to wash?) and if you decide you want the eye to look normal you have to invest in colorations and how to maintain that. Then Jaune has to invent bioengineering so signals from the Dust circuits reach the optic nerve in a way that the brain can interpret. If any step in eyeball making or upkeep involves anyone's aura, increase the difficulty check of that step by 20 to represent the bullshit of translating science to magic or vice versa.
Jaune should be done by volume 4.
I'm not being facetious or making fun of your suggestion, I'm honestly suggesting that Jaune could revolutionize neuroscience, physiology and rehabilitative prostheses in one or two years. That's magical and also what it's going to take to offer Ada a new eye.
Is that the quest you're here to play?
Tiypo
Forever Phone Posting
The whole reason I call on the QM in my questions, not you, is to discover exactly how capable Jaune is so I can make better choices. Unless I missed some important note, you are not an authority for this quest, I responded to your apparent criticism in an effort made of good faith to further clarify what I had in mind. If you would like to quote a statement made by Prok saying this sort of action is impossible then I will happily accept, but merely asking questions is in no way an issue and should never be.
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Actually he is pointing out the fact that Jaune does not have the knowledge or expertise to create a prosphetic eye. Jaune is a programmer by dint of necessity and spending years on the subject, not an engineer/doctor/inventor/neuro scientist. Jaune didn't even make the Transistor, he willed it into existance and there is a ton of semblance bullshit involved.
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Prok
Go play Star Fetchers
- Location
- Scotland
That's Process territory there.
As a general rule, anything that would need a lasting, physical construct to happen, e.g, a prosthetic eye or some kind of robotic assistant, requires the Process. The Transistor is more directly powerful, but more transiently so, as well. Breach() may be a high-power particle cannon out of thin air, but it's a brief one.
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You know what?
I asked. I asked, and I paid the price for my curiosity.
Ignorance is bliss. I don't know why I keep forgetting that. Ignorance is bliss. I need to remember that. Ignorance is bliss.
I mean, it doesn't, the job's entire point is, surprise, to make money. Learning how to use the software to complete it is, for you, less than a day's work. The training vote is downright redundant.
Your computer skills are... inherently tied into your ability to code Functions, they're just written in a specific coding language, but the basic, foundational knowledge for coding doesn't change all that much no matter what you're working with.
He might be planning to be a Huntsman, but he kind of needs to be a programmer to be a good hunter. That Venn diagram is a circle.
Fun fact: if Hokuto No Ken was the runner-up, you would have started with a B in martial arts.
Of the Grimm explosion kind.
More seriously, I would suggest having a backup weapon. It'll be vastly less effective than the Transistor for you, but it also kind of breaks you out of the mage role.
Boys, boys, you're both pretty.
Look, as I said up there, it really is Process territory. But more than that, it's... really not the kind of thing you're going to bring up with her for a while. Jaune's an awkward lunk at the best of times, and this is... heavy stuff. You're not going to bring this kind of thing up for a while, discounting the fact that the idea wouldn't even occur to Jaune yet because he has no idea he can do that.
It's definitely not going to be as hard as Clever thinks, like I said, 300 pounds of migraine medication does come with some benefits, but it's not just a matter of snapping your fingers and bam, done, even assuming she wants a prosthetic eye. When I say she might say 'eh, I'm used to it,' I mean that in the most literal way possible- speaking from personal experience, once you've gotten used to a lack of depth perception, getting used to having it back is exactly as hard, and that was just after a few weeks, let alone the years she's been missing hers.
Ada hasn't 'dealt with it' by any means. She's just... worked around it as best she can, without actually working on it.
It's an idea. A good idea, even. But it's not one you are anywhere near ready to put into action.
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Tiypo
Forever Phone Posting
Right.
@Captain Clever Sorry for if I'm angry but statements like "Is this the sort of quest you want to play?" come across as snarky and insulting rather than debative.
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I never expected it to be easy, worthwhile efforts generally aren't, just wanted to make sure it was possible.
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ADeshantis
King on the Chromium Throne
- Location
- United states
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Hey @Prok is one of those figures in the Fate shop Fox Alistair?
We can still learn Grimmsplosion Fu.
If we use Ren, Velvet, and Fox's figures and get along well with all of them we can combine Taekwondo, the Ripple, and Hokuto Shinken as our backup weapon and make Grimm explode with our feet.
Hey @Prok is one of those figures in the Fate shop Fox Alistair?
We can still learn Grimmsplosion Fu.
If we use Ren, Velvet, and Fox's figures and get along well with all of them we can combine Taekwondo, the Ripple, and Hokuto Shinken as our backup weapon and make Grimm explode with our feet.
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