KidFromPallet
Pokemon Fan
- Location
- Pallet Town
[X] "Is a soul actually necessary to be considered, alive and healthy?" [???: +1]
Hold It In (RWBY/Transistor)
- Thread starter Prok
- Start date
- Crossover
THatWhichWillBe
The Squiddly One
- Location
- In The Darkened Deep
From the way it's worded, how 'the world outside ends', I think.... it's a pocket dimension? Or something like that, a field of 'this is no longer normal reality'.
Redsoff
[DETACHMENT]
- Location
- By [your] side
[X] "What causes the soul to exist in some things, but not others?" [???: +1]
Maybe the establishment of personal territory? This is my dominion and you will respect my authority? Probably can sense everything within it, including people and books.
- Location
- USA
[X] "Is a soul actually necessary to be considered, alive and healthy?" [???: +1]
- Location
- A hole full of snakes.
[X] "What causes the soul to exist in some things, but not others?" [???: +1]
I do want the Transistor to get a soul, but the transistor really does seem sapient without one here.
I chose the question I did because it seems to fit them best, but the questions I really want to ask are "if the transistor is capable of human, near-human, or above-human intelligence, why doesn't it have a soul?" and "what would having a soul do to change the Transistor's consciousness that would qualify it as "sapient" that it doesn't already have?" If sapience and souls are linked in this world then I'm not sure what the transistor is missing to stop it from already having one. Maybe Blue is just too good at human mimicry and the transistor isn't really alive, but that feels bad to consider because they seem alive and sapient enough that Ludens felt like a huge dick for saying otherwise. Unhealthy, suicidally-loyal sapience, but sapience nonetheless.
Other than all that, I wonder how this opinion points deal is supposed to work, in the end. Like, what would a 5/5 split mean for what his opinion is? Or a 10/10 for that matter, if that's even possible?
I do want the Transistor to get a soul, but the transistor really does seem sapient without one here.
I chose the question I did because it seems to fit them best, but the questions I really want to ask are "if the transistor is capable of human, near-human, or above-human intelligence, why doesn't it have a soul?" and "what would having a soul do to change the Transistor's consciousness that would qualify it as "sapient" that it doesn't already have?" If sapience and souls are linked in this world then I'm not sure what the transistor is missing to stop it from already having one. Maybe Blue is just too good at human mimicry and the transistor isn't really alive, but that feels bad to consider because they seem alive and sapient enough that Ludens felt like a huge dick for saying otherwise. Unhealthy, suicidally-loyal sapience, but sapience nonetheless.
Other than all that, I wonder how this opinion points deal is supposed to work, in the end. Like, what would a 5/5 split mean for what his opinion is? Or a 10/10 for that matter, if that's even possible?
- Location
- Bowling Green
[X] "What causes the soul to exist in some things, but not others?" [???: +1]
A soul is not required to be healthy and alive, unless plants have souls.
A soul is not required to be healthy and alive, unless plants have souls.
- Location
- New York
- Pronouns
- He/Him
[X] "Is a soul actually necessary to be considered, alive and healthy?" [???: +1]
While I would be fine with the Transistor getting soups, I prefer the narrative telling the universe to screw off. Philosophically, of course.
While I would be fine with the Transistor getting soups, I prefer the narrative telling the universe to screw off. Philosophically, of course.
- Pronouns
- They/Them/Their
[X] "What causes the soul to exist in some things, but not others?" [???: +1]
Between the two options, this one that resonates with me more. Both seem like good places to start though, and I don't see either one as having more intrinsic value than the other.
Between the two options, this one that resonates with me more. Both seem like good places to start though, and I don't see either one as having more intrinsic value than the other.
- Location
- Random place
[X] "What causes the soul to exist in some things, but not others?" [???: +1]
[X] "What causes the soul to exist in some things, but not others?" [???: +1]
I prioritise knowing what "soul" actually means over determining whether I want one.
I prioritise knowing what "soul" actually means over determining whether I want one.
ADeshantis
King on the Chromium Throne
- Location
- United states
OH BOY OH BOY OH BOY
This is always just a huge treat when I see it update.
[X] "What causes the soul to exist in some things, but not others?" [???: +1]
We have a book that might give us information on the other question already, because if we don't end up reading the borderline heretical little book that the Librarian just loves the idea of handing out then I don't know us anymore.
More importantly, though, I really really want this answer. How is it that the Transistor and Process can be considered "less alive" than, say, Zwei? What property of existence grants a soul to a Welsh Corgi but not a sentient, sapient, artificial being?
This is always just a huge treat when I see it update.
[X] "What causes the soul to exist in some things, but not others?" [???: +1]
We have a book that might give us information on the other question already, because if we don't end up reading the borderline heretical little book that the Librarian just loves the idea of handing out then I don't know us anymore.
More importantly, though, I really really want this answer. How is it that the Transistor and Process can be considered "less alive" than, say, Zwei? What property of existence grants a soul to a Welsh Corgi but not a sentient, sapient, artificial being?
I know absolutely nothing on this topic, but I suspect that it doesn't directly affect his inclinations at all. That said, indirectly I expect that he would favour whatever he gets first. I you know that custard-filled glazed buns are good, then you are likely to advocate for them in the face of an unknown, like, say, baked calamari in a thick pineapple soup, even if you can't predict it well enough to deduce if there is actually anything wrong with it.
Based upon the evidence? My initial hypothesis is spiritual parthenogenesis.
ADeshantis
King on the Chromium Throne
- Location
- United states
Maybe; it would explain Penny, since her soul came off a shard of Pietro's, but it doesn't explain the Transistor not having one sharded off from Jaune, and it doesn't explain the Transistor being able to get one.
Also we need to be able to offload Semblance(Connect) onto our Cell or the Process as a whole some time soon ish, both for emergencies like Initiation, and for the (unlikely but still present) possibility that developing a soul, Aura, and Semblance of its own will prevent the Transistor from connecting to ours. Just to keep that in the thread's collective mind. I'm pretty sure we just need to go over what we wrote in Initiation and make sure we didn't miss any 'eadbang inducing bugs.
Spectral Waltz
Scatterbrained Writer
- Location
- Walking the Endless Corridors
[x] "What causes the soul to exist in some things, but not others?" [???: +1]
CaesriusPolybius
Worldgate Mechanic
- Location
- United States. Ish.
[X] "What causes the soul to exist in some things, but not others?" [???: +1]
I'm not 100% sure if it's due to a semblance or power born of knowledge gained by atlesian soul studies, but either way pietro polendina's ability to split off part of his soul and infuse it into penny seems to be more on the unique and intentional side than the everything does it side.
