You mean Mountain Glenn, that abandoned city right next to Vale we could take over, secure, and then invite people into that Vale would love us for?
Hold It In (RWBY/Transistor)
- Thread starter Prok
- Start date
- Crossover
NexysDhyArchen
Throne Breaker
Today: What are you dealing with tonight? [PICK ONE]
[X] [Today] Ludens: Crazed half-code half-magic AI tells your friends that it's possible to grow a soul if they tell you and you help them. Yep, it's Tuesday alright.
Tomorrow: What are you leaving for Tomorrow Jaune to deal with? [PICK ONE]
[X] [Tomorrow] Ozpin
The Far Future of Next Week: Next week's like, decades away- that's all Future Jaune's problem now. [PICK THREE]
[X] [Next Week] Understanding The Process
[X] [Next Week] Blake Belladonna, (possibly) Former Terrorist (definitely) Current Catgirl
[X] [Next Week]Touch Help Fluffy Tail No Actually Yeah Fluffy Tail
[X] [Today] Ludens: Crazed half-code half-magic AI tells your friends that it's possible to grow a soul if they tell you and you help them. Yep, it's Tuesday alright.
Tomorrow: What are you leaving for Tomorrow Jaune to deal with? [PICK ONE]
[X] [Tomorrow] Ozpin
The Far Future of Next Week: Next week's like, decades away- that's all Future Jaune's problem now. [PICK THREE]
[X] [Next Week] Understanding The Process
[X] [Next Week] Blake Belladonna, (possibly) Former Terrorist (definitely) Current Catgirl
[X] [Next Week]
PsyFarrow
Verified Necrodancer
- Location
- Space
Im not sure how eager people would be if we invited them to a failed expansion site that got horrifically overrun by Grimm in the past.
On that note, I can't imagine Oz approving any large scale use of the Process so long as it doesn't have a soul. Until then Salem would have free reign to snap her fingers and turn the whole thing into scrap or worse, pull a Fall Of Beacon with them.
Like, Oz/Ludens has just displayed the Process has the same defense against magic as a common rock. I can't imagine he'd be willing to all in on something his ultimate adversary could turn on him with ease.
- Location
- Somewhere in the area
- Pronouns
- He/She/They
I imagine that back when the Kingdoms were actual kingdoms, nobles were granted titles/full rights to land in grimm country, as a way to encourage them to focus their efforts/personal armed forces towards the grimm instead of eachother or the King. And while I doubt many were successful in claiming and holding territory, unless the nobility were dissolved during the switch to the modern council system, they may still retain ownership of those areas of land.
In more recent times, I imagine the SDC has bought the rights to any land that holds enough Dust to be worth the investment. (This is dependent on if dust deposits are finite or regenerate over time in this universe. Finite would mean they would prioritize easily accessible locations and rapid extraction, defending for just long enough to harvest the Dust before moving on. Regeneration would mean they would prioritize easily defensive locations and lucrative extraction, establishing bases that can use the dust to supply their ammunition and exchange the excess for food and essentials.)
I think creating a massive facility would be too conspicuous for our plans right now. Especially if our control over it could be subverted by Salem's magic.
Instead, I believe it would be better to use the Process to locate grimm nests, and to act as a terraforming agent ala Tiberium (except without the whole "deadly effect on carbon life" part). Identify sources of Dust and other valuable minerals in inhospitable areas, and move them to much more accessible areas (that we just so happen to own). Where we could then have a "conventional" set up, with living workers/defenders. At least until we can figure out a way to prevent Salem from turning automated units against us.
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- Location
- New York
- Pronouns
- He/Him
I hadn't thought of that. You think Salem will be able to Grimm up the process, corrupting it to her ends or perhaps to wild anarchy? Or perhaps it could happen accidentally.
That could be a potent threat, to balance what drama could be against potential nightmares. It'd be very transistor as well.
That could be a potent threat, to balance what drama could be against potential nightmares. It'd be very transistor as well.
Prok
Go play Star Fetchers
- Location
- Scotland
I'm already 6000 words deep, at the low low cost of 30 grey hairs in my beard already.
I'm still not entirely sure what you mean by [Tasks]- if you're talking about the vote tally criteria option, changing it to that does nothing, it shows up exactly the same as changing by line tallying. I'm afraid whatever you're talking about, the current voting system just doesn't seem to hit whatever checkboxes allow it to be in effect.
That's definitely a theory you have there. All I intend to say is that this is a fairly important decision, that may have further-reaching consequences than just your opinion on whether or not it's possible for artificial intelligence to create its own soul. Neither option is better or worse- they're just very different answers to the same question, and you might not like what happens in one answer over the other.
And, if I'm honest, I really don't know which answer people will take now- the sudden Ludens hate has thrown my radar way out of whack, I guess. Certainly enough that I've half-considered translating what he said into notajackassese, just so the information given can be taken from a more neutral standpoint. At the same time, that feels a little... heavy-handed.
Eh. I'll just wait for it to become relevant in-story.
infinityDivided
Prince Of Doom
- Location
- USA
Frankly, if I discovered I had only a few seconds to live just so someone else could learn from my death, I'd act like an asshole too.
- Location
- New York
- Pronouns
- He/Him
When you set the tally to [Task] with [Today] and [Tomorrow] it neatly organizes the votes by category. By block is good for plans, and by line is good for when there's few, uncomplicated options.
Or at least, that's how I understand it. When you put [tasks] within plans, I believe it confuses the tally. Instead of counting each [task] by its category, it instead counts the plan as one block vote. Its confusing to look at, you can't tell what won each category just by looking at the top winners, you've got to go down the list and do it manually... which defeats the purpose of doing [tasks].
Or at least, that's how I understand it. When you put [tasks] within plans, I believe it confuses the tally. Instead of counting each [task] by its category, it instead counts the plan as one block vote. Its confusing to look at, you can't tell what won each category just by looking at the top winners, you've got to go down the list and do it manually... which defeats the purpose of doing [tasks].
- Location
- Montréal
[X] Plan Informed Discussion
-[X] [Today] Ludens
-[X] [Tomorrow] Ozpin
-[X] [Next Week] Touch Help Fluffy Tail No Actually Yeah Fluffy Tail
-[X] [Next Week] Understanding The Process
-[X] [Next Week] Preparing For Leefall
-[X] [Today] Ludens
-[X] [Tomorrow] Ozpin
-[X] [Next Week] Touch Help Fluffy Tail No Actually Yeah Fluffy Tail
-[X] [Next Week] Understanding The Process
-[X] [Next Week] Preparing For Leefall
Kind of debatable IMO. The assholish-ness is understandable, but too much of it and you (and the message you're supposed to communicate) end up being dismissed out of spite, or --like in this case-- because they thought you were insane and this was your deathbed ramblings.
infinityDivided
Prince Of Doom
- Location
- USA
Again, realistic.
- Location
- USA
[X] [Today] Ludens: Crazed half-code half-magic AI tells your friends that it's possible to grow a soul if they tell you and you help them. Yep, it's Tuesday alright.
[X] [Tomorrow] Ozpin
[X] [Next Week] Preparing For Leefall
[X] [Next Week] Blake Belladonna, (possibly) Former Terrorist (definitely) Current Catgirl
[X] [Next Week]Touch Help Fluffy Tail No Actually Yeah Fluffy Tail
Before we go talk to the Wizard, let's try and process the revelations that were just dropped on us. It might let us ask better questions when we talk to Ozpin.
The next week choices are the ones that seem most urgent in terms of danger.
- Lee's showing up, so let's get ready for that
- Is Blake someone we can trust? Or is she a threat?
- I'd rather go with the Process than Creme, but Jaune is a bro, so he's going to be there for her. Might synergize well with Blake.
[X] [Tomorrow] Ozpin
[X] [Next Week] Preparing For Leefall
[X] [Next Week] Blake Belladonna, (possibly) Former Terrorist (definitely) Current Catgirl
[X] [Next Week]
Before we go talk to the Wizard, let's try and process the revelations that were just dropped on us. It might let us ask better questions when we talk to Ozpin.
The next week choices are the ones that seem most urgent in terms of danger.
- Lee's showing up, so let's get ready for that
- Is Blake someone we can trust? Or is she a threat?
- I'd rather go with the Process than Creme, but Jaune is a bro, so he's going to be there for her. Might synergize well with Blake.
I wonder if poking Ozpins soul again will give us another magic AI? 
- Pronouns
- They/Them/Their
Let's not and say we did. I think that it's better if we don't have the Transistor defragmenting it's hard drive again for a while.I wonder if poking Ozpins soul again will give us another magic AI?
- Location
- Estonia
[X] [Today] Ludens: Crazed half-code half-magic AI tells your friends that it's possible to grow a soul if they tell you and you help them. Yep, it's Tuesday alright.
[X] [Tomorrow] Ozpin
[X] [Next Week] Understanding The Process
[X] [Next Week] Blake Belladonna, (possibly) Former Terrorist (definitely) Current Catgirl
[X] [Next Week]Touch Help Fluffy Tail No Actually Yeah Fluffy Tail
[X] [Tomorrow] Ozpin
[X] [Next Week] Understanding The Process
[X] [Next Week] Blake Belladonna, (possibly) Former Terrorist (definitely) Current Catgirl
[X] [Next Week]
THatWhichWillBe
The Squiddly One
- Location
- In The Darkened Deep
Look, guys, we have the Harem Route we could always pursue. Why limit ourselves?
ADeshantis
King on the Chromium Throne
- Location
- United states
"Plan voting doesn't work right for this"
*3 more people vote for a plan*
See, this bugs me more than it probably should. That and people dropping votes with no context always grate on me for some reason.
*3 more people vote for a plan*
See, this bugs me more than it probably should. That and people dropping votes with no context always grate on me for some reason.
[X] [Today] Ludens: Crazed half-code half-magic AI tells your friends that it's possible to grow a soul if they tell you and you help them. Yep, it's Tuesday alright.
[X] [Tomorrow] Ozpin
[X] [Next Week] Understanding The Process
[X] [Next Week] Blake Belladonna, (possibly) Former Terrorist (definitely) Current Catgirl
[X] [Next Week]Touch Help Fluffy Tail No Actually Yeah Fluffy Tail
[X] [Tomorrow] Ozpin
[X] [Next Week] Understanding The Process
[X] [Next Week] Blake Belladonna, (possibly) Former Terrorist (definitely) Current Catgirl
[X] [Next Week]
This sort of vote doesn't make sense to do in separate tasks though. It could easily result in doing the same action twice in different timeslots, which is obviously wrong. Plan voting (or block voting) ensures that the winning result is a set that was voted on instead of potentially being a nonsensical combination of two or more closely competing plans.
- Location
- Mt. Holly, North Carolina
It seems currently that plan Informed Discussion is winning, with the only sticking points being whether Creme is helped or we try and figure out Blake.
- Pronouns
- They/Them/Their
Updated tally. I tried tallying by line, and it seems to have gotten the plan as well as everything else?
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But yes, the main point of contention appears to be a split for Next Week between helping Creme and talking with Blake.