...So like any modern IRL billionaire CEO ?
Hold It In (RWBY/Transistor)
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Doctor_Hayden
Plant-Katto
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Well, at least that's been cleared up. I am extremely glad that we already have the Process.
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I for one completely support you rewriting Jaques Schnee to whatever extent you require to make him less of a one-note character.
Please continue to improve on the writing and world-building of canon RWBY as you've already have thus far.
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I personally don't but that's mostly because there isn't and wasn't an AU tag anywhere I could see or remember and I have ... opinions ... about anything "fanon".
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In regards to Jacques Schnee I never get why others call people like him cartoony evil considering that in real life there are actual people that still do shit as bad as he does for the sake of money. For gods sake, we literally have people spending tons of money to get people to believe that climate change isn't real even though it would seriously fuck up the world all for the sake of short term thinking.
That and having met some actually emotionally and physically abusive people in real life can say that that kind of thing isn't as cartoony as people make it out to be. Also sociopaths do exist. Honestly Jacques is more realistic in that he isn't actually saturday morning cartoon evil in that he just doesn't care about people and just wants to get as much profit as possible. If anything he is the least cartoony evil villain out of the cast and I'm counting Salem as well since she has literally been corrupted by literal darkness.
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A valid caution, but I'm willing to stretch things if it turns a boring character into something interesting.
ADeshantis
King on the Chromium Throne
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I'm sad Jacques never loved anyone genuinely, apparently. I just found the soundtrack for a musical called Hadestown that could have applied if his motivations were a little different: it's about Orpheus and Eurydice, with a bit of a modern twist to the characterization and setting. The relevant part: Hades has brought the Underworld into an Industrial Revolution, complete with factories and automobiles, to provide a life of luxury, a "gilded cage", for his wife Persephone, and she hates it.
The song Chant has a line that gives me chills: "Lover, everything I do, I do it for the love of you! If you don't even want my love, I'll give it to someone who does!"
It would be much more interesting if Jacques had been young and in love, and had dedicated himself to becoming a cutthroat businessman so that he could run the company and provide for Willow, not realizing until it was too late that he wasn't the man she loved or the one who loved her anymore. Or, more tragic, that he still loved her but she couldn't love him.
The song Chant has a line that gives me chills: "Lover, everything I do, I do it for the love of you! If you don't even want my love, I'll give it to someone who does!"
It would be much more interesting if Jacques had been young and in love, and had dedicated himself to becoming a cutthroat businessman so that he could run the company and provide for Willow, not realizing until it was too late that he wasn't the man she loved or the one who loved her anymore. Or, more tragic, that he still loved her but she couldn't love him.
Well no actually it is because there is no concrete evidence proving it is a danger to the planet. So please keep your personal politics out of this thread, if you want to put it out on the web do so in appropriate forums or in conversations with people who want to discuss it with you. Just pretending that your opinion on the topic is the right one like this only alienates your audience if they happen to hold different beliefs. It undermines whatever kind of point your trying to make.
If anything the reason why people spread the belief that climate change is a hoax is because they only see it as a political tool with no evidence backing it up. AKA basically spending tons of money to gain a short term advantage by giving people aneurysms when they think about the climate and mans effect on it. See how the argument could be made either way on that topic? It is a divisive topic so lets keep it out of this thread man.
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Dude, we've known global warming was going to be an issue since the early 20th century, there's tons of evidence. The only reason it's not widely accepted is because the oil companies have been spending tons of money making people think it's not.
ADeshantis
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Guys, can we please just... have this thread not be about how we live in a world with all the worst bits of Shadowrun? We're here for RWBY/Transistor funtimes, not modern politics.
Driven by Apathy
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That's undeniably the optimal solution, yes. My point was never that Atlas being destroyed is in any way desirable, rather, that any economic necessity (real or otherwise) for cheap labor, even cheap labor that's needed to avert destruction, still does not justify slavery.
Incidentally, even in the situation you described that Nicholas Schnee was faced with, there would still have been morally preferable solutions, such as universal conscription - which is itself rather questionable, but at least it's fair in that it spreads the burden across all of society, rather than selectively oppressing people. But it's probably not surprising that the politicians took the easy way out and chose to exploit the already marginalized minority that nobody cares about, instead of introducing conscription and being forced to take the heat for that decision.
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Prok
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I very much agree with Zero here.
Also thank you for being a consistent voice of reason over the past few days, I appreciate that a lot.
Tiypo
Forever Phone Posting
I'm going to leave a link to NASA's webpage on this and say nothing else. Just remember that NASA is politically impartial, their only goal is to spread knowledge that is as factually accurate as possible.
Evidence | Facts – Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet
Driven by Apathy
Formerly known as Brain_Caster
By the way, I should probably say it expressly: I really like the way Weiss is characterized here. The same goes for the White Fang operatives (flunkies?). They all have human and understandable motivations for what they're doing.
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Ancient Scholar
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With some help from reboot and repair can we extend his life by a few years? That should be a great help to have an adult take care of things.
ADeshantis
King on the Chromium Throne
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Reboot is to healing what a sledgehammer is to construction work. It's a brute force solution that usually doesn't work quite right, which is why snagging Directory Repair so early would have been our biggest pre-Beacon coup had we not lucked into the Process. Remember that the Transistor has the best records of Jaune due to proximity to him and when we had our body rebooted after the Process-induced stroke our eye was still fucked for a while afterwards. The body changes constantly and shunting it too far backwards is damaging.
Plus, we don't have records of what Nick was like as a young man, not in the level of detail we'd need. And Directory Repair won't make people younger.
Ancient Scholar
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Well we still might be able to make something work. If we can repair the damage to his DNA caused by age we can have his body produce new cells which will extend his lifespan.
KidFromPallet
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We could just upload a mental model of him, instead of trying to heal his 90+ year old body. That's an option.
Actually, that brings up a good point. Will a copy of Jaune's consciousness be stored in the Process (once we figure out how to do that) to be released and given a Process-formed body when/if he manages to Bite Za Dusto? Combine that with regular backups of Jaune's self and we've got ourselves a little budget immortality/save states.
Actually, that brings up a good point. Will a copy of Jaune's consciousness be stored in the Process (once we figure out how to do that) to be released and given a Process-formed body when/if he manages to Bite Za Dusto? Combine that with regular backups of Jaune's self and we've got ourselves a little budget immortality/save states.
Baughn
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That's as likely to cause cancer as anything else, unfortunately. Even if it doesn't, it won't do what we both wish it would.
Aging is complicated. It's not a matter of individual cells wearing out, although that also happens; it's mostly a matter of the overall structure degrading. Cells aren't quite where they should be, there's debris everywhere that isn't cleared up, and so forth -- and there's no easy way to distinguish between debris and functional intercellular parts, lest you get any ideas.
The human body doesn't regenerate. It heals, but it doesn't have a master blueprint; what it's got is a bunch of programs for fixing particular problems, usually in a slap-dash, hurried manner.
I once saw a list of twelve problems that collectively could be termed "aging". Cells not being replaced after a given point was one of them; cancer was another. They're all complicated, and only about two thirds would be solved if we did come with a blueprint.
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ADeshantis
King on the Chromium Throne
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We have covered this ground before: we can map brain states now, but we can't map and recreate souls, and according to word of Prok, by the time we can we will have essentially won the quest. Sure, the Process and Transistor could try to imitate us, but it would be a hollow shell.
CaesriusPolybius
Worldgate Mechanic
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... is the game canon, though? Because on the one hand the answer to questions like that is almost always "no" for other works, especially ones that began as a fangame, but on the other Jaune's semblance, so...
It's supposed to take place between volumes two and three
Uh? Your welcome? Though this is my first post in a while.
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He, er, wasn't talking to you.
Prok
Go play Star Fetchers
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I could equally use Kuroyuri or Oniyuri as examples, but in my research to find their names again, I stumbled across several cities across Mistral that seem well-defended as well, so obviously I'll need to reexamine my statements to see if they still hold water.
I believe the union-approved term is 'goons'.
But thank you, I do try to make my viewpoint characters more than just mouthpieces for a certain point of view, if that makes sense. Knowing that the characters I very well could have reduced to a bunch of cardboard cutouts with angry eyebrows markered on and gotten away with it, instead come off as well-developed, human characters, pleases me immensely.
Got it in one.
At this point in time, if you were to create a Jaune-alike with the Process, and it acted perfectly like him, no inherent uncanny valley, people, especially people with awakened Auras like... almost everyone you've interacted with for more than five seconds, would attack it, because it would trigger that same reptile brain instinct that's kept them alive against the Grimm for the past several thousand years. Almost out of necessity, humans have developed a bone-deep sense for the lack of a driving soul in, er, anything that moves. The Process as is overcomes this reaction by, one, being cute as shit by default, and two, being obviously non-organic.
There are ways around this, if you have ideas that require the Process to emulate a person, but that's a problem for Future Jaune.
Oh thank you so much I just didn't have the heart to tell him-