Hmmph... this junior is a good seed [Cultivation Management Quest]

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i don't know what those are and I'm a bit lost on how omakes work in this thread
Ah. Right. Okay, let me help you out. To start with, a quick sketch of how good seeds work in general (You probably know this already but just in case you haven't it'll help make this clearer) - each good seed is a hero or noteworthy person in the clan. Your dude, badass axe blood-knight, will be one of those. Each turn in the good seed report, Occi will roll twice for you; once for fate (which is just generally what happens to you during the turn), and once for cultivation (representing how much you've grown in power). When rolling that, Occi will create a modifier based on how much omake you've made that turn, as well as a bunch of other factors we don't know about. Thus, the more omake you make, the faster your dude powers up and the better he'll get on in the turn.
 
i don't know what those are and I'm a bit lost on how omakes work in this thread
Ah. Right. Okay, let me help you out. To start with, a quick sketch of how good seeds work in general (You probably know this already but just in case you haven't it'll help make this clearer) - each good seed is a hero or noteworthy person in the clan. Your dude, badass axe blood-knight, will be one of those. Each turn in the good seed report, Occi will roll twice for you; once for fate (which is just generally what happens to you during the turn), and once for cultivation (representing how much you've grown in power). When rolling that, Occi will create a modifier based on how much omake you've made that turn, as well as a bunch of other factors we don't know about. Thus, the more omake you make, the faster your dude powers up and the better he'll get on in the turn.

To build on this, typically you do a post writing up your character's name and general concept. Then your subsequent posts start writing up stories about your character. These can be anything from snippets of cool scenes featuring them, to philosophical musings to full length stories.

If you have a cool idea for an omake that isn't about your good seed? You can write it. It will still count towards giving your character a bonus.

I've written a bunch of things not about Wei Feng. Such as this satire on Xianxia tropes in the Cultivator Health PSA, a look at what things might be like if we were playing as the Jingshen clan (often called a negaverse). Or pieces that look at other characters in the shared universe.
 
Maria/Gaius Collab - A Private Correspondence (Part 3)
A Private Correspondence (Part 3)
Maria/Gaius Collab Turn 9 (For Maria) / 10 (for Gaius)

This time, two letters are delivered to Gaius. They could not appear more different; one is rough, written on the back of what appears to be a legionary ration requisitions form, and sealed with a lump of candle wax. The other is, again, on high-quality paper and sealed with the symbol of house Economos. Strangely, the first seems… irritated, and the second apologetic. How precisely this is conveyed by inanimate objects is difficult to explain, and yet they seem to manage it well enough.

LETTER THE FIRST:

Gaius,

Don't really know how to tell you this, but I didn't know Letha'd been pestering you about me. Would have stopped her if I did. Her letter would have run for a good seven pages and she'd have gone on about Marcus Tanatherius. Since I decided to do this, she's brought him up nine times. She's always mentioned his mother's carpet, as well. I don't know why. She's really hung up on it. It wasn't even a nice carpet.

...Got distracted. Look. First off, sorry for you being bothered with this. Second, thank you for your letter. It was helpful. I understood almost none of it, but I've read it a few times since, and it's starting to click. Think I disagree, though. You talk a lot about the thirteenth being like two mirrors, mind and soul, reflecting each other. Can see why you'd think that. But it's not just that, or why'd we cultivate our bodies so damn much? Why do the Xin sorcerers plateau so fucking quick? Because it's three. Soul, mind and body. Immortals don't suddenly stop walking around in their fles, but they stop aging, getting sick. It's not reflection either. It's balance. Your idea about the qi inside your lungs and outside being the same is right, too, because it's the same idea. Inside and outside, balanced, perfectly, with no real… don't know the word. Separateness. Ourselves and just ourselves, with all the bits being as important.

Fuck. Look, that was meant to be thank you, your letter was helpful. Third thing I wanted to ask was about the Dao. Don't think you can want the single pillar without understanding it. Or them. Or whatever, fuck, not good at plurals. I'm starting towards mine, I think – won't go into details in case some fucker intercepts this letter – but it's gotten complicated, so advice would help. You said you've already got yours. How'd you do that?

Got a patrol. Hope you're stitching yourself together okay after Qigai. Also hope no-one's gone on about Marcus Tanatherius at you. Gets fucking grating.

Captain Maria,

263rd Legion (Second Scorpions)


LETTER THE SECOND

To the honourable, wise and most renowned legionnaire Gaius of House Antonius.

By now, I must assume that Maria's letter will have reached you, and with it the truth of my vile and awful calumny. I have lied to you. I did not, in fact, ask Maria if she wanted me to speak to you in search of your advice. I merely-


(The letter goes on for another fourteen pages. They have been completely scribbled out.)

Gaius-

Got to this before she sent it off. Edited it a bit. You're not missing much. There was a bit about flogging herself in penance. She won't be doing that. Don't think you're too annoyed about her sending you a letter. If you are, fuck off.

Maria.
 
Carvos - Good Seed Background
Good seed Carvos


Cool thing: Once an ordinary mortal until he found the axe known as the Way of Battle. He was ambushed by blood path bandits but with the axe, he killed them all, the axe feeding on their cultivation and pouring purified qi into him, awakening him to a world that he had only heard of. He discovered that he really really liked fighting with his life on the line and became a wandering vagrant eager for opponents.

Starting Age on turn 9: 18

Starting stage on turn 9: Qi Condensation 1 Years of cultivation on turn 9





Where he came from did not matter to him, but if hypothetically if it did matter to Carvos, or anyone who asked, he would tell them that he came from an unnamed small village in the far west that worked in the fields like their ancestors did and their ancestor's ancestors did for so long no one really remembered when it began. Corvus had been nothing special; he had farmwork like his father and his father did, working their lives away on the land. It was on a fateful day after an argument with his father in a fit of teenage rebellion, when he ran out of the house to hide in the caves and mope about how unfair everything was. But on that night, a one-thousand-year red moon was in the sky, its light revealing a hidden cave. Filled with curiosity about this cave that he had not yet explored, he entered into its depths.



For hours he explored the cave that twisted and turned up and down and sometimes back in on itself as if it was trying to stop his progress but the young Carvos pressed on stubbornly until finally, he came upon a large chamber with a simple altar in the centre. Upon that Altar was a large axe made of a strange red and black metal with eerie-looking symbols. Not knowing why Carvos had strode up to the Altar and picked up the axe just in time for three blood cultivators to enter the cave.

Immediately the Cultivators saw him and demanded the axe. They said they would kill him quickly and not use him to fuel their cultivation if he gave it to them. But for some inexplicable reason, a wide grin spread across Carvos's face from ear to ear and he charged. Taken so utterly by surprise the cultivators took seconds to process a mortal attacking them time enough for the axe to bury itself into one of their heads killing him power had flown into him and awoken something granting strength far beyond that of a mortal's. The death of their fellow shocked the other two cultivators out of their stupor and they attacked landing what should have been grievous wounds. Instead, Carvos merely laughed. The pain brought clarity but what struck him was something else.

The odd feeling of joy that came to him from being hurt and putting his life on the border of life and death spoke to something deep within him. He wanted more of it to test himself so he did. With a wordless shout, he ripped the axe from its victim and beheaded the nearest enemy with one swing. The Qi from their cultivation flowed into him healing his wounds and empowered him further. His next strike was blocked by the final cultivator. Carvos had grinned savagely knowing he had a hard fight ahead of him.


The battle was fierce. Techniques dealt injury after injury upon Carvos but he did not falter or try to dodge them, only endure and keep swinging the axe until finally the blood path cultivator tired and slowed enough for Carvos to hack through his guard into his stomach. As the Qi from his fallen enemy flowed into him and healed him Carvos made a decision. He would not go back to that boring village with their boring lives ever again. He had found something he really enjoyed, The feel of when two fighters fought until the last breath left their bodies testing themself over and over until one succumbed. After all, everything was about fighting. The examples that Carvos could think of were the fight to feed your family, the fight to grow your food, the fight over political power no matter how petty and now his fight to live against a more powerful enemy. This is what he enjoyed most about this revelation, that putting your own life on the line was the greatest culmination of the fight that there was.




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Carvos grinned widely as the blow came towards him. He threw out his left forearm and deflected the incoming fist smoothly away from his heart. His arm bone snapped like a twig and bent at an awkward angle. Pain shot throughout his body and his grin widened even further.

This is what he wanted, swinging the Way of Battle ignoring the so-called young masters' babble about 'surrender' and 'easy death'. He did not care to chat while he was fighting. Now was not the time for talk. His opponent dodged his swing but not the reverse swing whose spiked tip ripped his insides open, taking this chance Carvos rushed forward ignoring the blows and wounds from the young master's friends as they tried to stop him.

But it was too late as Way of Battle descended snuffing out the young master's life ignoring the cries of dismay he felt the power rush into him the Qi racing towards his injuries his left arm snapped back into place bone knitting together along with gashes and puncture wounds that riddled his body. What little Qi remanded set about hardening his muscles and skin but he paid it no heed as he was already in the thick of fighting more opponents but the rush of fighting the young master was not there and rather boring but he could get better at taking blows and swinging his axe so it was not a waste just a chore.

With a final splat, the two halves of his last opponent fell to the ground. Corvus rested the Way of Battle on his shoulder, picked up and slung his food sack over the other shoulder and turned walking east, leaving bloody footprints and a gore-covered street in his wake. Ordinarily, Carvos would have sat down and waited for the inevitable reprisal and fought all who came until no one did, but for the first time in his life, he had a destination in mind.

It was before today's excellent fight he was buying food and some clothes after wrestling a lesser stone gorilla to the ground. He had overheard some merchants talking about a clan called the Golden Devils and how Heaven sent strong cultivators from another sea to punish them for reasons that Carvos did not care about. He had then matched over to the merchants to have a little talk. He learned of the trials that occurred every hundred years and how the next one was near he had then got the directions from the merchants.

He had then quickly bought what he needed and set off immediately to join this fun-sounding clan. Then, he had walked into that young master he had just killed today, who had been a really good fight. But from now on, he would be travelling for a while so fights may be scarce until he reached the Organ Meat Desert. But that was ok since if he wanted to get to the Trials in time, he needed to avoid fights that would delay him, and the Trials would have plenty to satisfy him once they happened. So, he would wait for the next fight. He could be very patient if he wanted to be, despite what other people might think about him. So, with one foot in front of the other, he set upon the path, walking and thinking about the greatest fights that awaited him with a rictus grin.

ReaderOfFate: While your grammar can improve, I really like how you got across the emotion in the fight. It's something I personally have difficulty with. There definitely was an element of wildness to it.


@ReaderOfFate thank you very much for helping me with this good seed and beating it for me
 
You're welcome!

And threadmarked.

(Also, heads up, it's beta'ing, not beating. Though, Carvos definitely beat the shit out of those cultivators, that's for sure.)

indeed he did I'm aiming for him to be a terrifying combatant after all and he may cause many shenanigans in the clan because he wants a fight he may do the five elements tribulation just for the fight and he uses LST as a means to keep fighting not fleeing he may need a minder
 
Corvus is losing a fight his axe is unable to cut his enemy. They are laughing at him.

"You know I never really learned anything about axe styles, but there was something that I just remembered. You are supposed to get more power in your blows if you use both hands"

"Duh are you an idiot that just-" doesn't finish as he is spilt in two.
 
Corvus is losing a fight his axe is unable to cut his enemy. They are laughing at him.

"You know I never really learned anything about axe styles, but there was something that I just remembered. You are supposed to get more power in your blows if you use both hands"

"Duh are you an idiot that just-" doesn't finish as he is spilt in two.

he's just say they have big guts he's kind of a honey badger and the doom slayer mixed with a ork
 
Anyone here happen to be an astrophysicist or cosmologist? I want to write an Omake where Abel slowly comes to the inescapable realization that yes we are in fact living on a dead turtle flipper. If you want to help please PM me.
 
Maria/Amaranth/Carvos collab - THREE PSYCHOS WALK INTO A BAR
THREE PSYCHOS WALK INTO A BAR
Maria/Amaranth/Carvos collab

It wasn't the most important battle the Fearless Line had ever seen, Maria thought, as she dropped her shield into position and flicked her spear out of the way, but it was certainly memorable. Most of the bigger engagements tended to follow a certain pattern. The weaker cultivators would pour into the field, trade blows, and then withdraw immediately when the Nascent Souls or Single Pillars showed up. This one, though. This one was nothing but Qi Condensation and a handful of Foundation Establishment experts. It looked like a maelstrom; skirmishes on top of skirmishes flowing back and forth around them all as every junior in every sect and clan in the damn war seized this chance to make a name for themselves. If that wasn't enough, the Noble Knowledge juniors had clearly decided to test every gods-damned thesis, blueprint and pipe dream they had. The field was awash with freaks and monsters like something out of a nightmare, things with too many arms and legs, appalling faces with lolling jaws and rolling eyes, and who knew how many others.

So. You know. Kind of stuck in the mind.

"Lock," she snapped and cycled her qi. Her squad joined in raggedly. The fight had gone on for a few hours, now - people had been dragged off the field to the medics tents. She in turn had picked up a few waifs and strays as she went. All Optimatoi so far, but she'd seen a hoplite earlier with a very, very confused Strength Purity at the heart of it.

Like she'd said. Memorable. Fuck, but she'd do murder for someone higher up the food chain to give her an order right now. She was trying to hold a line that barely existed.

Optimism. You're adorable.

Fuck off.


The hoplite bloomed above her, shadowy and rough as hell. The spear and shield gleamed dully, and the Qi-construct began to swing great, brutal blows down into the fray. Slowly. Too damn slowly, she knew for a fact they could do better than this. They needed more damn-

And then, for once, the heavens went blind and she got some good luck. Someone new slammed into the back of the formation, dropped into the construct-pattern like a fish into water, and sent power searing through the rest of them with the intensity of a small sun and the control of a dancer.

Fuck. Fuuuuuuck, who-

She turned her head back.

Stared.

...Okay, so one of the Indomitable Thirteen had just showed up.

"Senior Amaranth," she muttered through gritted teeth. "Lovely weather for it."


"Oh, certainly. The blood qi in this area is just fantastic stuff, really, harmonizes with my own way too well. I doubt I'd have been able to hit this Hoplite as much as I did right now without it, frankly, even after I purified the stuff."

"Well fuck," Maria said, grinning fiercely, "maybe you should be leading this."

A heavy body slammed into the shieldwall at the base of the formation. Maria didn't bother directing the construct. Instead, she snapped one hand over the top of her shield, took hold of the creature's neck, and crushed it. It died, wheezing and gurgling.

As it toppled over, Amaranth slapped his hands against the bloodstained side of the dying beast, the force of which ruptured open an even larger hole in its skin. Glowing Qi mixed with blood flowed together out of the creature into an orb on his palm, which gradually shrunk down to nothing. His body didn't hold the power long before sending the power back to the Formation.

"Reuse, reduce, recycle, as the old Clan motto goes! Not like it was doing anything with its qi anyway, after all."

"Such a good example for us innocent juniors!" She grinned again, sharply, before hitting her shoulder into his and acclimatizing her qi to his. "Have to say, big fan of your work. It's a rare clansman who can rip qi out of the corpses of their enemies with quite so much style."

Her eyes fell onto one of the bigger creatures stalking the field. A lumbering thing, eight or nine feet tall, humanoid but patched together from a dozen different corpses.

"If you feel like another demonstration, that might be a good place to start."

Suddenly the ear was split by a ROAR

"HAY, YOU GIT! YOU ARE BIG! THAT MEANS YOU HAVE BIG GUTS AND ARE STRONG FIGHTMEEE!!!"

From seeming nowhere a large muscled figure came running. His hair was long and matted. He was covered in blood-soaked rags that barely covered anything. The look in his eye could only be described as crazed. In his right hand held aloft was an enormous black and red axe whose glowing symbols looked eerie.

Before the horror had even had time to turn the maniac - as that what as he could only be described as - leapt forward, axe raised, fully ready to bring it down on the side of the thing. The madman and axe struck like a thunderbolt. Soon, blood and viscera was flying everywhere as the axe ripped opened the side of the thing. Not stopping, the man hacked away until a sufficiently large hole had been made. Without a pause the man reached his axe into the abomination. The thing began to wail in agony clutching its stomach as the crazy inside it was swinging his axe with abandon inside abandon.

With a final cry, the thing toppled backward with a BOOM twitching but the insanity did not stop there in what was only moments an axe ripped outwards from the belly of the thing. The man that pulled himself out of the thing did not look human he was dripping head to toe in blood his eye seemed to be glowing black the air filled with killing intent. And in his left hand he held the monster's guts aloft

"SO YOU REALLY HAD BIG GUTS THAT WAS FUUUUNNN!!!!" The demon laughed, tossing the aside and looking about for his next victim.

There was what could only accurately be described as a contemplative moment. Even the monsters looked shocked. Then, as everyone realised that a nigh-artistic display of ultraviolence did not in fact mean the battle was over, they went back to trying to kill each other.

Behind the shield wall, Maria forced her mouth closed and tried not to stare.

"That," she said, catching Amaranth's eye, "was a thing that happened."

"Yeah." Amaranth was still a bit stunned, to be frank. "It was."

"Lot of… ah… lot of ripping and tearing."

"Until it was done."

"Until it was done, yeah."

They stood in uncomfortable silence for a moment, watching the… individual… continue his bloody dance across the battlefield, howling with laughter.

"...Bit familiar looking, isn't it?"

"I'm having a distinct flashback to my decade back in Xin, yes. Involved a lot of intoxication, and not all of it was battle-related. You might have heard what happened to that trio of Cannibals that was messing with the place? Still got their heads in the back."

"Vague memories of it, yeah. Me, this is Three Frogs all over again. You hear about that?"

"Yeah, I have. Good work there, by the way."

"Thanks."

She coughed.

"It, uh… it feels a lot less… fluid-y from the inside. He's pretty… messy."

"Speaking as someone who regularly covers their body in blood by necessity, yeah. While it's easy to ignore in the heat of the moment, the stuff tends to stick you up, and my body doesn't always do the cleanest work of absorbing the stuff. I picked up a technique, back in my caravan-guarding days to help with that— but I digress."

"...Yeah, but you may have to teach me it, I can never get the spinal fluid out of my hair- Oh. Oh, what's he up to now?"

Just then a loud TWACK filled the air and the madman was sent flying by an enormous tentacled monstrosity. The batshit crazy warrior immediately got up, but did not move to attack. Instead, he looked inside a bag that was so covered in blood that it had been unnoticed until the man had moved to check its contents. Whatever was inside made the man look up at the beast with a chilling fury.

YOU JUST KILLED MY RABBIT. THEODORE THE FIRST. THE MOST GLORIOUS. WISE. AND CUTE. I WILL RIP OFF YOUR HEAD AND USE IT AS A TOILET. I WILL RIP OFF YOUR BALLS AND CLUB YOUR TWITCHING CORPSE WITH THEM. THEN I WILL KILL A DOZEN MEN WITH THEM IN HONOUR OF THEODORE BEFORE SELLING YOUR TENTACLES TO THE NEAREST BROTHEL."

Setting the bag down reverently, the man charged the beast, only to be sent flying again. The moment he landed he got up again and charged the thing again, only to be sent flying again. This kept happening for at least five minutes, in which the madman was sent flying seven hundred and five times by tentacle, five times by high pressure blood, and once by the controller of the monster, as the insane fucker was starting to grate on his nerves. In response to this the man simply attacked the 9th heaven stage expert with the same vigour and fury he had arrived at the battle.

"...Yeah, he's gonna die," muttered Maria, watching him continue to bang his head against this particularly brutal wall. Seven hundred and six. Hmm. She glanced across at Amaranth.

In unison, they spoke.

"We have to save him, don't we."

Beat. Then, again in unison.

"Yeah."

"Show him how it's done?" asked Maria, letting a psychotic edge slip into her grin.

"Naturally." Amaranth replied, his hands darkening to grey in preparation, tensing himself to leap. An intense look went into his previously carefree face.

"Great. Draconis, take the lead." She dropped her shield and lunged into the maelstrom, watching her sergeant step neatly into position as her qi tore loose from the hoplite.

Ready to impress?

Competition, murmured the Red Place, wonderingly. Then, KILL.

Good.

She let go. It spread its tendrils through her body and her last thought, before she became a howling, laughing lunatic, was don't lose.

Amaranth's odd green boots suddenly flared with emerald light, and he burst into the air, hurtling into the battlefield across the melee. As he slipped through the air in a sharp arc towards the tentacled monstrosity, he saw the perfect whiteness of Maria hacking wildly through the fray. It was an interesting contrast, he mused. She'd been brutal before, but controlled. Efficient. Now, she was clearly enjoying herself. Every blow was calculated to maximise agony, and followed up with a frenzy of horrific strikes, all underscored by wild bursts of laughter. It certainly seemed effective, he had to admit. As he descended into position, she was skidding to a halt beside him.

Her single eye turned to lock on his face.

"Took the boring route," she said, in a voice like broken glass and dying soldiers.

"Boring route?" Amaranth smirked, and suddenly a shockwave struck the ground. "You know, the trick to delaying this took a bit to learn. Toads don't really tend to do that, you know?"

Bodies flew in all directions, cracks ran through the ground, and a large plume of sand ended up getting shoved into the air, obscuring vision for a few seconds. Amaranth rubbed his eyes and coughed. "Ah, now I remember why I learned that wind-art… In my defense, sand usually isn't that easily moved."

The Red Place, which had almost been sent flying itself (and only avoided that by jabbing its spear into the ground), shot him a glance that, had it been less openly homicidal, might have been called amused. "Sand's always easily moved. Now that-" and it turned, pointing its spear at the twitching horror that towered above them, "That'd be more impressive."

"Actually yeah, that sounded kind of dumb from an external perspective, but trust me, it makes sense in context. What I meant was—"

A sudden flare of Qi drew their attention to the crazy bastard who was grappling with the 9th heavenstage while a sword was sticking out of his back. He appeared to be winning, albeit temporarily as he had bitten off his opponent's nose and was now repeatedly headbutting him.

The Red Place grunted. "Kill," it growled, before lunging forward, spear raised. The tentacles were tough, with thick grey skin. The spear punched through in a moment, and then the Red Place got its hands inside and started to tear.

Amaranth, in a flash of grey, was at the other side and plunged his fist into the beast. "About time to end this." And then the beast howled. At the point of entry, the qi flows, and as a result, its blood flows was twisting back and in on itself, causing ruptures to form into the interior and even on the outside, where a normal punch really shouldn't have left them.

The Red Place, meanwhile, had suddenly been handed dozens of gaping holes through which to dive into the tentacle thing. It was like its birthday. It pushed its hands inside and started to shred a path for itself, deeper and deeper inside. The results of Amaranth's works were showing everywhere; muscle tissue was seizing, nerves misfiring, organs shuddering under the stress of drastically misaligned qi flows draining second after second of every flicker of life. The Red Place found itself laughing again, a deeper, haunting noise than its usual shriek.

It had never had friends before. It liked it.

In desperation, the beast took what Qi it could through its strained meridians, and filled one point to bursting. Then, a blood-red light shot straight out of a tentacle at the people who were ripping it to shreds, bursting it apart from the recoil.

While this was going on the mad one was kneeing his opponent in the genitals as well as headbutting he was laughing in pure joy at the strength of his opponent whose face looked to be the one who seen a monster that was steadily pushing him to the brink in desperation then as if remembering himself the hevanstage use a technique that blasted through his opponent gut sending him tumbling away

The light that had scorched outwards didn't do much to the Red Place, deeply ensconced now inside the thing. The recoil, however, hit it like a tonne of bricks. The creature's whole body shuddered in a mad peristaltic wave, flinging the Red Place back into the wall of constricting flesh. It was only a moment, but that was all this thing needed. A muscle twitched, tensed, and locked down around the Red Place's legs, arms, chest.

Amaranth, on the other hand, was very much outside, so the beam headed straight at him. Despite his apparent impending dire injury, he smiled. "Blood Qi, huh. Not the best of choices, you know?" He reached out a hand as if he was plucking a fruit from a tree to eat, and to him, he might as well have been. The Qi surged into it, like binding to like with ease, and his pure Qi imparted a level of force that the original creature never could have been able to release.

Then, he fired it back.

The blast was simpler, from him. Sharper, tighter. No showy boom. Just a single, thin column of red-grey fire that cut through the creature like a needle through a balloon. For a moment afterwards, the thing seemed to hold its shape. Then, with an awful groaning noise, it began to collapse, inch by sad inch.

Inside, the Red Place felt the thing die. The muscle holding it in place went loose.

"No fair," it muttered rebelliously. "I almost had it." Then, desperate for a target for it's frustrating bloodlust, it looked up, eye-locking on where the lunatic and the creature's pilot had fought.

As the thing died, qi came boiling up out of it in a thick red cloud. The pilot gave a glad cry, opened his lungs, and yanked it back inside. The power surged through his body, healing his wounds as it went. It wasn't how he'd planned the battle to go. Still. All data was good data. He could start improving the design, too. And that wretched junior had died, at last. Breathing with a sigh of relief the cultivator turned away only for him to hear movement and laughter.

HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHHA THAT WAS AMAZING laughed the man rising like a revenant from the ground with a fist sized hole through which intestines could be seen

"You are the first who has pushed me so far. I have never felt so ALIVE!!! But i have not breathed my last. Nor have you. We can still fight."


" D-d-d-d-die you monster!", screamed the cultivator preparing another technique.

" YES COME ON HIT ME LET US BATTLE TO THE VERY BORDERS OF LIFE ITSELF FOR TO LIVE IS TO FIGHT" with that he charged straight on towards the cultivator who not wanting to let this thing near him again, shouted some words and fired off a technique, sending a lance of actinic crackling power that made the air around it hum, but the madman charged straight at it laughing with glee.

The madman soon found himself on the ground, body checked by some stranger who had charged towards him. He was about to get up and return his charge, but a flash of light momentarily blinded him.

"Lightning is a bit trickier, you know? Blood's a lot closer to life, and therefore malleable. Only reason I'm able to pull this off is because of bronze!" The stranger held a shrinking piece of what looked like a lightning bolt, and the other cultivator looked confused.

He proceeded to stop looking confused a few seconds later, because he lacked a head to look confused with. The air gained a strange, sharp odor, for a few seconds, that was washed away by the wind. The headless body began to spasm, for a few seconds, with a semblance of movement.

The Red Place punched up, in that moment, behind the headless corpse. Its fist struck out, directly through the chest, howling with glee…

That stopped as soon as it saw the head was missing.

Beat.

It turned to glare, furiously, at Amaranth.

"TWICE?! FUCKING TWICE, YOU STEAL MY KILL?!"

"Well, you know what they say. The early bird gets the worm. Though I guess, in this case, it's the early bird brutally rips off the head of their enemies before anyone else can. You know, there probably are birds like that, thinking about it." Amaranth looked vaguely pensive about that notion.

"Y-y-you interfered with my fight" came the whispered voice of the madman, who then walked over to where his axe lay. Picking the weapon up, he whirled around to face the two people who had saved him.

"I, Carvos, challenge you both to a fight! come at me and show me your resolve to your last breath. It will be glorious!!!"

"...What."

"...What."

Fin.

i am extremely grateful to @BadAtScreenNames and @ReaderOfFate for cowriting with me

 
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Abel Angelus 6 - We really do live on the flipper of a giant turtle Part 1

We really do live on the flipper of a giant turtle Part 1 questions.

When I was reading up on cosmology I figured that I was just reading mythology. I mean seriously back of a giant dead turtle flipper? It became clear to me that if I wanted to figure out what was actually going on I would need to make my own observations.

Well on a certain day at noon I have two sticks in two different cities a thousand Li from each other. Or about 310.6 miles I was only ever able to figure out a rough conversion. Simply by measuring the difference in the angle of the two shadows I can calculate the circumference of the globe. There was a problem however. The shadows were the same length. I repeated the experiment with two different cities much farther away from each other. So far measuring the distance would be difficult. Same result. Shadows are the same length. No curve. In other words the world is flat. Ugh.

Well sort of I wasn't willing to accept something so silly on just one data point. I did the same experiment between 5 different cities. I can confirm that the world isn't round, but it's flatness does have quite a few curves in it. I had to confirm with a few other checks. No boats don't disappear over the horizon bottom to top they just fade from view. I am fairly sure the clan archivists think I am somewhat insane at this point.

This of course leads me to wondering about the sun. We still have sunsets in this world. Also everywhere has day and night at the same time. There are no time zones. Which means that we don't live on an infinite plane. Well it could be if the sun lands somewhere and a new sun is sent into the sky every day. Or I guess it goes down a tunnel though the earth or really the sea because the turtle is supposed to be floating in the sea. But in any case where the sun rises and sets is very far away.

What makes the sun float? It is clear that we have gravity. So the sun has to somehow be fighting against that or somehow be unaffected by it. Same questions about all the other celestial objects. The stars and the moon.

We have sessions. Since they are not being caused by the axis of the earth's tilt there must be something else causing it. Does the sun dim at certain times of year or is it caused by something else?

What confuses me the most is just how uninterested other people I ask seem to be in the topic. I mean we are the Golden Devils. The clan that wants to fight the heavens shouldn't we at least want to know how they work? Know your enemy and all that.

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Another Omake @Alectai, @TehChron, @ReaderOfFate . Incidentally if anyone wants to help me come up with a coherent cosmology and the observations that it would have please help.
 
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Gaius & Maria Collab - A Private Correspondence(Part 4)

Another letter arrives after a few months, same as the first. The penmanship has grown sloppier than last time.

Gaius & Maria Collab: A Private Correspondence(Part 4)

To Maria of the CCLXIII,

Don't worry, I know all too well how it is with enthusiastic Juniors. I don't mind at all, it's quite cute - tell Letha I said hello.

I apologize for my overly simplistic explanation in my previous letter. To answer your pressing question, if I am to truly explain not just the philosophy of The Seeker but its psychological underpinnings, I will need to start from the beginning. I wouldn't tell this story to just anyone, so I do hope you understand how seriously I take cultivation, and how I value the solidarity of speaking with another with the same ambitions.

As you may be aware, House Antonius is in a... liminal state of being. As a minor political power it is entirely anihilated; I am one of only three living Cultivators hailing from that family, and one of those three married into another minor noble family and took their name. While I have no interest in political power, I wish to find the man responsible for the family's downfall. As I was only a young boy at the time, I was utterly ignorant to whatever machinations may have motivated this crime. Perhaps this is childish to say, but I harbor no real desire for bloody revenge, so much as a wish to understand the reasons it happened. Of these events, I will speak no more.

Out of this desire was born the philosophy of The Seeker, which I first conceptualized at the age of ten, two years after the disaster. I was aware of the concept of the Dao from what my parents and other relatives had told me, specifically that when one's cultivation progresses far enough, their Dao will begin to manifest into the physical world. In that sense, I planned ahead from the start, thinking "how can I find the truth?" From there, I penned a series of crude documents which would become the foundation for my early conceptualization of The Seeker.

To keep things simple, The Seeker's true nature is to be utterly uncompromising and self-sufficient, to find the correct path no matter what and enforce its own existence. The Seeker cannot leave any stone unturned, and to follow The Seeker, one must become it. Hence, I reasoned, I would need to believe in my Dao from the start and not waver, and would also need to explore every little corner of cultivation, in every realm. It is this very determination from with The Seeker draws strength and exerts greater power, which then begets greater determination, which begets greater power. You could define it as a sort of mental conditioning. Much as a martial artist's bones much be thickened over and over with repeated pummeling, so to do I continuously hone my mental strength.

I have personally borne witness to the fruits of my spiritual labor. I first became able to manifest small Dao-related abilities of a useful nature in the Sixth Heavenstage, something I have been told was previously thought impossible. However, such an overbearing Dao has consequences. When I say that I have no choice but to follow the Single Pillar path, I mean it. If I contemplate summoning the tribulation lightning, as I instinctually know I can at any time I want, I am quickly overcome with an intense feeling of anxiety and dread. Not the justified fear of an enlightened man, but the primordial fear of an animal, like an inverted lust.

I have never personally met the Shining Hope, but from what I have heard, her personal charisma is of an overpowering nature, and she gives off a feeling of utter spiritual immovability, like a planetary body in human form. I believe this might be a crucial trait of a Single Pillar cultivator: your Dao must be perfected and completed, and must manifest through you to such an extent that you personify it in the physical world. That way, when you manifest a Dao ability, it will simply be your will shaping the world to a more suitable form.

In short, the most seemingly absurd truth that I have internalized is that Dao powers are not mystical, they are deeply mundane. As insane as this sounds, I believe it to be fact. Your Dao-Heart must be strong enough that exerting your authority upon the world with complete, unassailable arrogance feels like moving your own limbs.



(He noticeably took a break here, as the ink becomes much fresher)


To address your previous point about the body being a third part of the spiritual self-reflection process, I do believe you have a point there. While I was making no distinction between the body and the rest of the physical world, that was perhaps unwise. After all, as there is no difference between the mind and the world, the relationship between the mind and body should not be minimized.

After all, when a human is born, they have almost no control over their own body, but as time passes, they gain greater and greater physical faculties. It could be said that mortals are in a similar state of infancy with regards to spiritual matters. The ability for their will to control the world is entirely absent, and one who begins to cultivate gradually gains this control. In that sense, it could be said that the body is the world in miniature.

The body supports the brain, which gives rise to the mind, which is reflected upon the soul. The mind then contemplates the soul, which allows for cultivation, which enhances the body. Enhancing the body enhances the brain, which enhances the mind. The enhanced mind once more contemplates the soul and cultivates further. The power builds up to a breaking point. Then, tribulation. Rebirth. Once more, the human is an infant, in a higher level of being, and must once more master the World-Mind-Body-Self. With each rebirth, the barriers grow thinner; the world is brought further into the fold.

This model deserves further contemplation; it may prove more fruitful than a purely mental one.

I thank you for your concern for my wellbeing, but it is unnecessary. My blood is quite thick, so recovery is a simpler thing than it would be for most. A curious thing, this bloodline; somehow realizes on its own when something is seriously wrong. It somehow drew power away from the usual enhancements in order to hold my body together. As a Body Cultivator I find it fascinating.

With regards to my medical treatment, do not worry - I've got my hands on something called a Wound-Knitting Warrior's Forge; equal parts unpleasant and effective. It's essentially an array-inscribed full-body iron cast, which I must wear in my sleep and which "re-forges" my bones bit by bit, going from my toes to my skull and then back down again. The process is quite painful, but reducing my sense of touch by 90% while wearing the suit makes it tolerable.

It is, however, ruinously expensive. This thing is intended to be used by Centurions, so I couldn't afford to buy it; I am renting it until I am well enough to properly regenerate, and I fear I may take a year to pay off the debt I accrue by the time I turn it back in.

Gaius Antonius, of House Antonius



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These are surprisingly fun to do. If the degree of formality and stiffness in these letters seems a bit OOC for Gaius, that's the point. I'm trying to get across a sort of awkwardness with regards to written correspondence. That sort of 'email to the professor' vibe.

He also, as you've probably noticed, gets a lot more flowery when discussing spiritual and philosophical matters. Gaius is kind of an art bro. If he lived in the real world he'd be one of those pretentious guys who enjoys agonizingly slow and bleak black and white foreign films from the 1920's. He'd probably wear a newsboy cap too, the bastard.
 
Xiao Yingzi 13 - [A Simple Tribulation]
Xiao Yingzi 13
[Turn 8]
[A Simple Tribulation]

Xiao Yingzi narrowed her eyes at the apocalyptic levels of destruction taking place right in front of her. She leapt back as the earth tore, desert sand tossed into a hurricane that reached for the sky and the lightning from the heavens that had first torn down the earth in the first place. "What exactly is this?" She asked, trying to make sense of the sight in front of her.

"This is your mindscape," A familiar voice said next to her and she turned to see Elder Teleos standing in his full physical form right behind her. He pointed to the top of the sandstorm where the rising sands met the lightning in a blaze of glorious light. "And that is your tribulation."

"What do I need to do?" Xiao Yingzi asked, watching as the storm spun, digging into the earth like a drill, to shoot up stone and grinding up stone into sand to rise higher and higher. The lightning may have started the process of destruction but the sandstorm continued it.

"Climb the sandstorm to where it meets heaven's lightning." He replied, looking up at the violent expanse grimly. "Grasp the core of heavenly wrath at its source and channel it into your shadow to ensure the completion of my design."

"I see." Xiao Yingzi replied, eyes darting across the shifting slopes of sand. When she looked for a path through, at the corner of her eye she noticed chunks of stones flying up, forming footholds that quickly crumbled. "I believe I have a viable path up but how will I reach the core at the lightning?"

"Remember what I told you about not being able to share everything with you?" He asked her carefully. She nodded at the reminder. "Well, I need you to trust me. The sandstorm will rise until it reaches where you need to go."

"Then I will proceed with that assumption." She said, before turning to him and bowing. "Thank you for everything so far, Elder and I apologise for my abruptness." She caught the sight of another stone close by and without waiting for a reply, she moved - a strange sense of urgency and direction telling her that she needed to go now.

A second later, Xiao Yingzi's legs stepped on a single stone in a sea of swirling sands. She landed properly, able to put her full weight there but the stone began to crumble immediately under her weight. The world blurred as she moved to the next step, accelerating faster than she normally could. Unfortunately, she didn't have the concentration to spare to analyse that as all of her focus was on moving forward lest she slip and be ripped apart by churning grains.

Xiao Yingzi curled into herself in the remnants of her cave, trying to keep the lights and the noises and the smells away from the nice, welcoming darkness that had smothered them all before. But the mountain of shadow that had shielded her for so long was gone now, cracked apart and eroded. It would rip apart her too soon when it broke through what was left.

The sandstorm raged outside, howling with her fear and her fury. The earth shook with thunder as the sky flashed with lightning. Each roar made her flinch and clutch her knees tighter. But it also made her grit her teeth tighter. How dare they! How dare they! How dare they! If only she could reach its source, she would rip it apart!

But she knew that this lightning was too much for her. All she could do was prolong her end, second by second. "Oh?" An annoying, smarmy voice interrupted her thoughts. "I expected better of you, Xiao Yingzi. But then, you could never really follow through."

Her eyes flashed open at the familiar voice, fear forgotten as she saw that damned Teleos giving her a smug smile. "Are you here to mock me!?" Rage gave her strength as she leapt at him, grabbing him by the neck with both hands. She lifted him up but he still grinned down at her. You couldn't toss me away then and you certainly can't kill me now. You see what I mean!?

"Then let me finish the job right here!" She screamed as squeezed, grimacing as her fingers met resistance in his skin. With a shout of frustration, she tossed his body aside. Watching him ragdoll on the stone floor at least made her feel better. "Why are you even here!?"

He got up as if nothing had happened and brushed himself off before giving her a knowing smile. She shivered with rage but restrained herself for the moment. She couldn't hurt him but maybe… Yes, that might do that trick. "So what annoys you more right now?" He asked, drawing her attention. "Me?" Before she could answer, he pointed up. "Or the heavens?"

"I'm listening," She told him, knowing that's what he wanted. She pretended to consider it and began to pace, as if she couldn't stand still. He mirrored her movements, keeping the same distance between them. "How can I hurt the heavens?"

He grinned, believing her caught in his trap. She stopped pacing and so did he, stopping exactly where she wanted him to. But she focused on his words first. Patience... "If I were you..." He said slowly, drawing it out. "I'd head down. Your power comes from the earth, doesn't it?"

She frowned at him and leaned down to touch the earth. He wasn't wrong, it was a mountain that shielded her even if it was a mountain of shadow. "Thank you." She told him honestly, giving him a bright smile that caused him to freeze. In that moment, she ran… right into him shoulder-first, tossing him out of the mouth of the cave and into the sandstorm. "And that's for everything else."

Xiao Yingzi wasn't certain that the storm could hurt him but since he didn't come back, she assumed it did. It made her feel better, if only for a moment. Then the sound of the storm brought her back to her peril. She took a deep breath and placed her palms on the ground. Then she began to dig, ripping out chunks of stone from her hands and tearing it apart with raw strength.


Time seemed to stretch as she stepped upwards, moving faster and faster as she grew accustomed to the climb. But it didn't grow easier. Just as her steps grew accustomed to the stones, the strength of the sandstorm seemed to grow. Gale force winds began to blow along with the sand with such force that they would have been difficult to weather even with her feet firmly on the ground.

In this sandy hell they tossed her like a doll, the only thing preventing her demise was the stones she stepped on growing larger and more stable. It gave her just enough time to jump into the direction of the wind as it struck her, preventing her from being pushed back but forcing her to bear it's full force with her body. The winds weren't the true threat however, instead it was the sand grains they carried with them.

Each grain was a crystal of glass superheated by the clash of sand and lightning at the top of the storm and they were imparted with the force of the winds enough to bite into her body. They were too small to penetrate her bronzed skin, but the pain they caused was immense, capable of leaving any other cultivator too hurt to even move.

Though Xiao Yingzi could simply feed the feeling into her shadow and force herself to move, each prick was another moment's distraction when she had to focus on her next step and the constantly shifting wind. She didn't know where she was going or how much further she had to go, the sand blinding her to her surroundings.

The few openings she had only added a new element of danger, exposing her to the blistering heat from above the glorious light above. She just moved up and up, pushing her pain into her shadow and as the elder had promised, the storm raged higher and higher - pushing back the lightning and carrying her with it to its source. She just needed to outpace it.

And then, after all of her effort she suddenly found no stone to step on and her momentum carried her through the wind and sand, until suddenly the heat struck her, blistering and blinding with nothing to block it. She covered her eyes with her hands to shield them. The light burned through her hand and then through her eyelids.

Blindly, she reached upwards and grabbed. She felt hot glass cut into her skin and begin to boil her blood, but she ignored the feeling in order to pull herself up. As her legs burned and her body burned, she began to climb the top of the storm, seared into glass from the heat and light of the lightning hitting earth and sand, held aloft by the sands pushing up beneath her.

Xiao Yingzi ignored the thought of why and how, forcing herself to climb. Each step increased the pain and the searing lightning that burnt her mind and soul. Step by step, she moved - ignoring the pain and climbing up, a task far simpler than the trial she had faced simply climbing up here.

Rage and spite was hard to hold on to, powerful in the instant but easily forgotten when the target of them moved far away from you. Fear, especially the one for your life was similar, sharp and motivating but easily ignored when nothing threatened you. But this wasn't the case for her right now. With her back turned and her focus on the earth below, her cave was flimsy and crumpled entirely as the sandstorm bore down on her, her own mind running rampant. It broke the earth behind her and only grew in power as she moved further from her mind.

But she still had her will and the emotions within her only gave her strength. Pain filled her as she forced her way through the earth. Her fingers were raw from digging and her muscles ached from her pushing her body beyond its limits. This was logic extending it's grip across her mind and she would have none of that here! With a growl she forced her fingers to heal and her torn muscles to knit back together.

She forced her body further and further, knowing the sandstorm licked at her back. She grit her teeth and forced herself forward. The storm howled more and more as she ripped her own mind apart to push back the will of heaven. Pinpricks of burning pain erupted across her body like grains of molten sand. Xiao Yingzi screamed at the pain and grit her teeth, forcing herself to keep moving because she knew that stopping would mean that heaven wins.

She would never let that happen.

The pain only pushed her onwards, guiding her to where she needed to go. She followed that feeling of the darkness that had once shrouded her with cool relief. She knew that it was down there somewhere, hiding from even her now but she had a taste of it once and she would find it. If she could reach it, she would win. If she could reach it, heaven couldn't reach her. She didn't know how deep she needed to go, but she knew the direction.

She just needed to keep going.

The pain doubled, tripled and grew exponentially. No longer pinpricks, full searing heat assaulted her and burned her body. She opened her mouth to scream and it went down her throat, burning her from inside and out. She couldn't move, she couldn't see. All she could do was burn. But she could feel it now, like a flash of cold between the burning.

She fell into the welcoming darkness.


She stepped into the burning light.

It seared her and judged her, but she remembered the fractal image she had cultivated for the last ten years. Using it as a model, she channeled it through her body, wielding its energy to carve eight dantian into her body, each equally as wide as the first one she had formed through patient meditation.

They were crude copies of what she had done before, but as the energy finally dissipated she realised that she could simply refine them as she meditated on her pillars. She would have the time now, she realised keenly as she returned to her physical body, down on one knee and breathing heavily, leaning on her spear for support.

She felt the qi rushing into her body with every breath. A strength the likes of which she had never experienced before flowed into her. She opened her eyes, taking in the world so crisp and sharp. A sound in the distance made whip her head to her side catching a qi condensation beast run away from her gaze. She stood, though greatly exhausted she curtain the creature was no threat.

She turned to her spear and to her surprise, felt lightning crackle from her hands through it. As the whispers urged her, she pulled it up to throw and in a flash, a lightning strike akin to the one she had faced bare moments ago surged towards the fleeing beast and struck it down with barely any effort. Then she raised her hands and the spar spun back into her hands.

She held the banner-pole spear with both her hands, studying heaven's lightning as it raced from her hands through it. She frowned as she felt something missing and looked around the tribulation glass at feet. Where was my shadow? She wondered, with a sense of dawning horror - or she should have been filled with horror, but her mind was as sharp as it used to be when her shadow absorbed all intrusive emotions.

Then she noticed her reflection and all logic left her mind. A sight so unexpected greeted her that she was at a loss for words. She stretched her hands and flexed her wrists, feeling the flexibility of her body. Was it more flexible? She couldn't tell with the improvements of foundation establishment. All she knew was that there was no hint of bronze in her skin.

She reached out for the only person she could think of. Elder Teleos? Please explain this?

You now wield the Lightning of Judgement, His voice came instantly, as if waiting for her to ask. This is the Light of Revelation that scours away the demonic and shakes the dao-hearts of even the most mighty righteous. He was as long-winded as always, but there was a hesitant quality to his voice that said it didn't come from his sense of drama. Is it so much of a surprise that it would burn away the blood of bronze from your body?

Xiao Yingzi wasn't entirely certain how to respond to that. She tried to form a reasonable response, before finding no words came to her mind. She tried again but couldn't quite put her thoughts together correctly. Finally, she responded with the simplest, most practical concern that she could voice. How will I explain this to the clan?

Don't and they'll assume it's cosmetic or an effect of your dao. He replied, carefully. Such a minor change is hardly a major concern for a talent.

She tried again to form her true concerns and failed. What exactly are you planning? She finally managed.

I can't tell you yet. He replied, regret evident in his voice once more. You remember you agreed to trust me until the Fortified Pillar. After a moment of hesitation, he continued. Do you trust me?

She considered that question. Not entirely. She admitted. I'm uncertain if I would agree to that again if I could go back.

To be expected. He replied, a degree of dismay evident. Will you continue cultivating in the manner I advise?

At least until the Fortified Pillar. She replied, grimacing. I do not have much choice in the matter, do I?

No,
He admitted. I suppose not.

What became of my shadow?
She asked, trying to gather her thoughts and grasp what she was working with.

You are cultivating a Pillar of Heaven. He explained. It's light of revelation metaphysically scours away the shadow at every moment. It's still there but it can't truly exist.

I see. She replied, considering his words. So that is why I am not facing the full brunt of my emotions. A thought occurred to her. What of the curses? Am I unaffected by them now that I have lost the blood of bronze?

No. He replied, having expected that question. And I can't explain why exactly. Not yet.

I see. She replied, not truly understanding but the thought that she still faced the curses brought her a strange comfort. So be it then Elder, let us begin to walk this path that you have wrought.

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I have another Carvos omake in mind starts a brawl in the war camp for training purposes or should I do things Carvos is not allowed to do anymore
 
Well on a certain day at noon I have two sticks in two different cities a thousand Li from each other. Or about 310.6 miles I was only ever able to figure out a rough conversion. Simply by measuring the difference in the angle of the two shadows I can calculate the circumference of the globe. There was a problem however. The shadows were the same length. I repeated the experiment with two different cities much farther away from each other. So far measuring the distance would be difficult. Same result. Shadows are the same length. No curve. In other words the world is flat. Ugh.

Well sort of I wasn't willing to accept something so silly on just one data point. I did the same experiment between 5 different cities. I can confirm that the world isn't round, but it's flatness does have quite a few curves in it. I had to confirm with a few other checks. No boats don't disappear over the horizon bottom to top they just fade from view. I am fairly sure the clan archivists think I am somewhat insane at this point.
Why are people letting him jet-set around all over the place and constantly pester the archivists about basic, well-established principles of geography and scientific fact, when he should be cultivating?

This of course leads me to wondering about the sun. We still have sunsets in this world. Also everywhere has day and night at the same time. There are no time zones. Which means that we don't live on an infinite plane. Well it could be if the sun lands somewhere and a new sun is sent into the sky every day. Or I guess it goes down a tunnel though the earth or really the sea because the turtle is supposed to be floating in the sea. But in any case where the sun rises and sets is very far away.
I'm pretty sure that the broad-scale geography of the continent is well known. If the turtle is afloat within a sea, the places where the sun associated with the Virtuous Turtle (?) (deceased) rises and sets are probably just very far away. So far away that you're not going to be able to convince anyone capable of flight to go out across the open ocean to observe more closely.
 
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Why are people letting him jet-set around all over the world and constantly pester the archivists about basic, well-established principles of geography and scientific fact, when he should be cultivating?
He isn't. He sends messages. Barely any time at all just lots of waiting.


I'm pretty sure that the broad-scale geography of the continent is well known. If the turtle is afloat within a sea, the places where the sun associated with the Virtuous Turtle (?) (deceased) rises and sets are probably just very far away. So far away that you're not going to be able to convince anyone capable of flight to go out across the open ocean to observe more closely.
This world is so big that there are lakes bigger than our oceans.

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Oh you mean that people in different seas might have different time zones. I guess so.
 
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Diomedes cestus 9 - Cultivator, Spy ,Sabatour
Diomedes cestus 9 - Cultivator, Spy ,Sabatour
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Diomedes was rifling through papers at the office particularly fat Jingshan bureaucrat, while the bureaucrat was drunk and knocked out on the floor of the office by a bottle laced with one of the many many random poisons given to him and many others by the infamous poison witch when they all got deployed on the mission to the Jingshan lands.

After quickly pulling the insensate bureaucrat into a closet and shutting the door Diomedes grabbed an expensive-looking bottle and settled into the fat official chair knowing that
due to the bureaucrat's own bribery patterns, he would have the next several hour's particularly patrol free giving him time to start reading. through the fortress reports.

looking into the papers and quickly applying the cipher he got a few months back from a particularly careless guard, he noticed a report
in which one of the guards raised suspicion of golden devils spies infiltrating the three forts while pointing towards Peta and wajo specifically due to their
recognizability.

Honestly, Diomedes was rather surprised that it hadn't happened earlier what with one of them being a massive bear.
Luckily it seemed like the fat Bureaucrat was a corrupt one as well , since he had disposed of the guard responsible and kept the report held back until he could use it to improve his own status, either by blackmail or bribery.

Now all that would-be left is to dispose of the man Diomedes mused to himself, but the question was how?.
While Diomedes could just slay him, the man has not been lax in his bribery towards the fort leadership meaning that his death would trigger an investigation which would be a detriment
and an annoyance towards his goals.

As Diomedes, he looked out of the window before his eyes fell on a certain individual who walked in the courtyard below.
The woman who stood in the courtyard would have been a cultivator of little note sitting at the fourth stage of qi condensation, if not
for her father being an early foundation establishment officer at the fort.

On one of her hands, she wore a Powerful and expensive bracelet that served both as status symbol and a life-saving treasure combined flaunting her wealth to the rest of the fort and protecting her.
It gave Diomedes ideas.

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Diomedes was whistling as he walked through the fort carrying stacks of papers, maneuvering around as squads of guards rushed in the opposite direction.

as he moved towards one of the forts entrances he could see the bureaucrat being dragged out into the courtyard by the guards begging for mercy before he was executed by a furious captain.

Diomedes approached an individual sitting near a cart that was due to join a caravan out and handed him the papers.
"Another delivery for you to move my good friend"Diomedes uttered, "you will, of course, find the necessary fees inside."

Turning around to leave Diomedes had thought of one report he had read about the current situation in the divided mortal kingdoms.
It has been a while since he was home.
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Here is an omake for the next turn hopefully only the first of many.
@Alectai, @TehChron, @ReaderOfFate .
 
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Abel Angelus 7 - We really do live on the flipper of a giant turtle Part 2

We really do live on the flipper of a giant turtle Part 2
I hummed as I worked. Comparing the position of the sun by measuring it from many different places. I would find out just how far away the sun is. Who knows maybe it is close enough to grab? But really just learning is satisfying.

"Why are you bothering with this?" Me and elder twin Georgy jr. haven't had all that much to do with each other after we both started cultivation. With my past life advantages I have been racing ahead of him in cultivation and then I started focusing on recreating the technology of home. Now I am trying to figure out this world's weird cosmology. It's just one thing after another, a huge world, of things.

"What does it matter exactly how far away the sun is? All that matters is that it is too far away to reach. It doesn't matter for anything that might possibly affect us."

I point at a paper I am reading "There was a drought 30 years ago in Wilcon. 3 million mortals died."

"Ya, so it's just what I was saying to focus on things closer to home."

"The drought started with an unusually hot summer."

"I get what you are saying, but even if you knew how far away the sun is you can't do anything to it. If something could be done about then it would have been done millennia ago by smarter people of a higher cultivation than you."

I point at him. "That! That right there is why I am doing this. Everyone acts like cultivation is the be all and end all. No, discovery is made by a dispassionate analysis of the data well working hard to minimize bias. It isn't a matter of power or will!"

I point at the end of my equations "See! That is the distance to the sun! 10,000 Li"

"Bah it doesn't matter" He says before walking off.
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Despite my earlier insistence, I of course double-checked my equations later. Really getting exactly 10,000 Li with no decimals? That just screamed that I likely made a mistake. Turns out I had made a mistake. Just not the one I thought. No matter what time of day or where I measured the distance from the results were always 10,000 Li. How can an object be the same distance from you no matter where you are? Also there was a hidden confounding factor that I had not noticed when I observed that everywhere has the same time with no time zones. If it's noon in Biu di then it's noon in Jan sa. I would have expected at least slight variation to account for perspective, but no when it comes to the position of the sun everyone agrees on it as a universal truth at least relative to the observer. If multiple observers compare results you quickly realize something is fishy.

Reading the clan history I find a legend. It was in the old section and is obviously a retelling of a retelling with the original version lost. At least lost to the sections of the archive I have access to.

"And so Kaia Mutou grabbed the sun out of the sky and split it into a thousand thousand pieces so that we could all share in it and yet deny it to our enemies."

The next few chapters detailed how all our enemies suffered without the sun and many of them turned away from the heavens to share in our light and warmth. But then a new sun came into the sky. How long it took is unclear, but well legend.

"But try as she might Kaia Mutou could not touch the new sun for no matter how she extended her arms the sun was always out of her reach. She could no more grasp the sun, then the moon's reflection in a pool."

Ah, so the new sun is an illusion. Like a rainbow. I am glad I made the observations before reading the legend or I might have thought it was a hologram. Or more likely have just dismissed the legend out of hand.

Also nice to get confirmation that this is an artificially constructed world. I had suspected before, but this was clear proof. Also interesting how it was constructed. If I were to make a sun simply for lighting a world during the day then I would just have it hang in the sky where it would turn on during the day and turn off at night. And yet despite making the sun an illusion the heavens apparently went to the extra trouble of including sunrises and sunsets. Why? The most obvious answer would be to mimic some other world. But that might just be my bias talking. There is no real way to test that theory.

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I kinda cheated a bit on the distance calculations. The quickest and easiest way to calculate distance is parallax. Or having two people a long distance from each other compare observations. However if everyone sees exactly the same thing no matter where they are then parallax calculation will come up with infinite distance which is in a very real sense in this case true, but it didn't flow with the story very well.
 
He isn't. He sends messages. Barely any time at all just lots of waiting.
Getting people to cooperate in your science fair project costs resources and coordination. Maybe not much, but it's still going to get time-consuming. How do you convince someone you've never met to give you precise measurements of the shadow of a particular building at a particular time of day?

It's far from impossible, but if the character is really trying at this, it's going to consume some time and energy and one has to wonder how others react to that.

This world is so big that there are lakes bigger than our oceans.
Yes, but my impression is that the "continent" is completely surrounded by a greater ocean, and that the sun would have to be passing into and out of that if it were to do so. Not just into some (ocean-sized) lake in the middle of the "continent"
 
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