Hmmph... this junior is a good seed [Cultivation Management Quest]

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But what if we're unable to do so alone? What if the only path to the survival of the Clan - to the overthrow of the Heavens - is an alliance with the blood path here and now? If the cost of our dream is working with unpleasant allies, does that mean we should give up on it.

What this vote is really about is how much you are willing to sacrifice to Defy Heaven - to build a world outside of Heavens grip. If you would rather risk us losing that giving up the moral high ground, fair enough. Or that those saved under a Heaven-Free future are worth some unpleasant alliances now. But you must grapple with and accept the risk that doing so may seal the Clans doom - not now, but in thousands of years time.
joining the blood path alliance isn't risk free either, Wei Princess could pull the same stuff Altar Lord is offering us, but with us in the role of the Jingshen.

What if the only path to the survival of the clan - to the overthrow of the Heavens - is refraining from backstabbing the closest thing we have to allies here and now? If the cost of our dream is being a generally decent person, does that mean we should give up on it.

both routes have risks, either route could accomplish our goals, but only one route requires us to aid in the slaughter and consumption of countless mortals.
 
Except one of those methodologies requires us to ally with the Demonic Altar, who drain people for cultivation fuel as a matter of course. For *ANY* of them to cultivate, they have to do that, because the blood path is incompatible with any of the other ones. The "We'll be killing them all off later!" argument also requires them to make no gains whatsoever during the war, and like... I really don't see that.
Remember that time.we allied with Old Cannibal to take out Child Corpse Gulper for a handsome profit and shoving his Sect into a death spiral?


On top of which, the argument that this is fundamentally about coexisting with the heavens or making war with the heavens is also fundamentally unfair. It assumes that if we do this we will never, EVER, go against the righteous powers again.
Oh we absolutely are, but we're never gonna find an easier and cheaper way of doing it

Ultimately, if we turn away from this our options for.opposing the Righteous Path are gonna be "on our own" or "not at all"

Period.


I'm not entirely sure how I misrepresented my point though.
You said it's not about coexistence while adding a speech to obfuscate that your end goal was literally coexistence Kaboom.

Its kinda annoying to be honest.

oining the blood path alliance isn't risk free either, Wei Princess could pull the same stuff Altar Lord is offering us, but with us in the role of the Jingshen.
Not before Altar Lord offs old Jingshen and likely Lady Jiao. Manuel is the best at sucker punches in the region.
 
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Our Righteous allies still consider us Demonic. They just look the other way because its convenient to have any access to the desert rather than having to fight their way in every time they want to go looking for goodies.
 
yes, but even if those people are dead ,if Manuel is too then the clan isn't long for this world, no matter which side wins.
If Gloriousstrike is in the desert dealing with Manuel being a massive pain and stalling, then the Altar Lord has free reign to dunk on Righteous Path Nascent Souls with impunity

They're both late NS, but Gloriousstrike keeps him in check, not the other way around.

Moreover, even if she ganks Manuel, all that does is leave the Scorpion road in chaos. The Clan will never be cowed into doing it for her, and Jingshen wont be capable of getting Spirit Stones to the Great Battlefield in time to make up the difference.

Going after Manuel personally in retaliation is an act of self destructive spite. I won't say it cant happen, but Gloriousstrike would have to be incredibly foolish to do so in any timeframe before we can prepare for their retaliatory strike
 
Remember that time.we allied with Old Cannibal to take out Child Corpse Gulper for a handsome profit and shoving his Sect into a death spiral?

That's not the same. That was a one-on-one duel in a specific region. This is a large-scale conflict across the great battlefield that will likely spill over into the verdant south. Scale is a thing that is relevant.

Oh we absolutely are, but we're never gonna find an easier and cheaper way of doing it

Ultimately, if we turn away from this our options for.opposing the Righteous Path are gonna be "on our own" or "not at all"

Period.

That is a *MASSIVE* assumption. For one thing, the previous demon obliterating wars didn't exterminate the demonic altar sect or the other demonic powers. For another, the altar are currently winning, and while Altar Lord admits they'll probably be pushed back, he said nothing about them immediately coming apart. Even when he said the sect was doomed in his internal monologue, he was talking about being the last altar lord and how he'd only last two millennia. There's every chance this war ends in a draw, or anything other than complete and total victory for one side.
 
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You said it's not about coexistence while adding a speech to obfuscate that your end goal was literally coexistence Kaboom.

Its kinda annoying to be honest
Right, chron.
First off, I don't appreciate the assumption that what I'm doing is out of malice or some plot to obfuscate my 'true' goals. That ain't true.

With that out of the way, I don't think I was obfuscating anything. I said that the binary o of choices you provided wasn't correct because inherently it was a biased binary. You asked for my own views on what I wanted to do, I told you, then you started getting annoyed, I explained my point more, and now we're here.
 
I wonder...

Are One Pillar-Cultivators strong enough to hold up the sky, like Atlas himself?

Is that why their Tribulation is so hard and they have the ability to bring down a sliver of Dao even in Foundation Establishment? Because they're a person who might be strong enough to uphold an entire sky or heaven on their shoulders, or something absurd like that?
Nothing else, but opposing heaven could be viable enough as a way to diplomance us into the Altar Lords power.We suspected correctely, but Remember! He truly believes all of this or he would not be able to convince Manuel, the walking lie detector.
Yeah, but... It's also possible that he removed his memory and knowledge of his real true path and laid a breadcrumb of clues for himself that would lead him to genuinely hold a mindset that would be convincing to Manuel.

I mean, this does sound sincere, but... If he can hide secrets from Manuel in one way, he can hide secrets from Manuel in another way too. Though, yes. Assuming we can take what we see in the interlude for granted, this does seem sincere, but...

... Anyway. The problem is... Even if the Blood Path is the only way to challenge Heaven, it's also the fucking Blood Path. That's not exactly something you want to use or depend on. Fruits of a poisoned tree and all that. If you overturn it through mass, industrialized, suffering and sacrifice of humanity... what kind of world are you gonna build. And who knows what Demonic Soup Chef himself is, or was, like? What he was motivated by?


For all that though, yeah, it is convincing-sounding. The man's desperate. Desperate enough to use evil for his means, if it comes to that. (Just... This is so much evil. Is it too much?)

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We had a possible boon in a post not long ago, which we did not take. In that Old Gold would step into the light. I reckon this is the opposite "Raise banners for Darkness, so a new dawn may come" option.
Ah, yeah, good point.

People have asked "Where is the offer from the other side? From the Wei Princess?" but now that you mention it... This IS the other side.

We were already offered something from the Righteous Powers!

It was the "Step into the light" option, back during the meeting of 4 Nascent Souls in the desert.

This, is the Blood Path coming and offering us something in return. Or rather, one man asking for help in his rebellion against heaven, and offering a trade in turn.

I think if Manuel had had the Dao of Rebellion ("Rebellion can be done in secret, but the business of the rebel never ends.") or Defiance ("Defiance is open, and never-ending. One does not hide, or lower your head.") instead, Altar Lord would have felt a bit more confident about this pitch. Or at least, maybe would have felt mildly pleased or relieved that there was somebody else who understood and held similar values or strategic desires or goals. Even if he probably figured that there'd be no way the Golden Devils would succeed or survive. But Manuel follows the Shadow of Heaven. And the Shadow hides and is hidden. So Altar Lord is probably just a bit less certain of his pitch and just a bit more pessimistic. :V
 
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If Gloriousstrike is in the desert dealing with Manuel being a massive pain and stalling, then the Altar Lord has free reign to dunk on Righteous Path Nascent Souls with impunity

They're both late NS, but Gloriousstrike keeps him in check, not the other way around.

Moreover, even if she ganks Manuel, all that does is leave the Scorpion road in chaos. The Clan will never be cowed into doing it for her, and Jingshen wont be capable of getting Spirit Stones to the Great Battlefield in time to make up the difference.

Going after Manuel personally in retaliation is an act of self destructive spite. I won't say it cant happen, but Gloriousstrike would have to be incredibly foolish to do so in any timeframe before we can prepare for their retaliatory strike
we know that there are treasures that can let late NS appear in two places at once, since that is what the Altar Lord is planning on using to fight Jingshen, and Altar Lord murdering two Righteous Path Nascents is not going to go unnoticed, and this is a lot of investment, so it would make sense for Wei Princess to think of this like we thought of Fu Tong during the war.
 
I find myself skeptical and a bit confused about (the?) Altar Lord's alleged history and cosmology. Even if I suppose he's not deliberately lying, he seems to be attributing a suspiciously specific power level to ... you know what, calling it "Heaven" is confusing. I realize why the translation is there; I think the word choice still comes with too many distracting connotations.

Altar Lord is making claims about the Overturtle, lemme call it that for now, since it's ruling over the turtle realm(s) but not ruling over where our lot originally came from.

You are one of the few qualified to know of your true history. To even speak the original name of your great Sect - called the Heaven-Defying Demon Sect by your enemies brings about the punishment of heaven. You know about the Turtle-Subjugating army that stepped across the sea of stars and into this realm, meeting the new race called 'humanity' as you did. Your ancestors wrote about them. Treacherous and cunning, you yourselves came from a better realm, or so the slivers of will your ancestors have left claim.

Between our spotty history, the Altar Lord's claims, the standard xianxia implications, and a few other things, I'm trying to put together a picture of the Overturtle and I find the pieces don't seem to fit.

The Overturtle is weak enough that a cultivator can stab it (with very metaphysical weapons, no doubt) and new cultivation paths come out. Supposedly this is how Blood Path Consumption Cultivation came to be. The Overturtle needs millennia to recover and then millennia more to fix Blood Path existing. But the Overturtle was able to rapidly (?) prevent Blood Path cultivators from using Beast Core Consumption despite Blood Path being an offshoot of Beast Core cultivation.
The Overturtle resents our invasion into the turtle realm, and supposedly plans to unmake us entirely.
The Overturtle has in the meantime set up the Trials system to have foreign cultivators one-sidedly stab our cultivators in a way that's damaging but not entirely destructive. :???: (It's at this point I start to wonder if the Overturtle is even meaningful to speak of as a coherent entity.) These foreigners have multiple Spirit-Severing cultivators in their sect, despite such a thing being a rarity across our entire turtle.
The Overturtle cursed the Golden Devils with poverty, but this is a limited-strength curse that was gradually being expended as we gained new lands, even before the omake bonus with Heaven's Shadow.
The Overturtle made the breakthrough tribulations extra hard for the Golden Devils. This is something Old Gold is working to change, and could have changed if he'd focused on it.
"This body... not well-prepared. Listen, old man. Listen. When my Lord created Blood Path, do you think he did so for no reason? No. He wounded the Heavens, and with it opened a new door of power. Why do you think Blood Path adherents cannot use Spirit Stones or Beast Cores?"

Manuel knew the answer to this.

"Because of the curse."

"Fool of an Optimatoi. You have eyes, but cannot see the answer in front of them. Heaven cursed what it controlled. It removed what was within its power, like a man removing an arrow from his wound, preparing to have it sewn up. Ten thousand years ago, Heaven lost interest in you. It gained interest in me and mine. But do you really think that once Heaven has finished with us, it won't come for you?"

Manuel paused thoughtfully.

He had thought this, but... he had a trump card. The power of Heaven's Shadow, growing steadily.

"Let me explain. Heaven is repairing itself, rebuilding the regulations that govern this world. At this rate in another ten or twenty thousand years there won't be a Blood Path. Shortly after that, it will destroy the only forces remaining in all the Seas capable of evading fate. The world will once again be properly regulated, and you will be helpless. Shortly after that, your people will be no more."

Manuel felt out for Heaven's Shadow, trying to grasp whether the other man was lying. He couldn't feel a lie, though that didn't mean there wasn't one.

Altar Lord was speaking louder now, hacking coughs between each sentence.

"My Lord wounded Heaven, finding an opportunity as it crushed the remainder of the Sea Conquering Army. Once it recovers, there will be nothing more for any of us. Did you ever wonder why there are no great Blood Path powers in the other Seas, why the Sea Conquering Army has been driven back to the weakest corner of the weakest Sea? The regulation of Heaven is weakest here. But it is not weak, and it is growing stronger. If we do not find a way to win, or at least prolong our loss in the next thousand years, there will be no more future for any of us. And you, old man... you bear the Dark Mirror of Heaven. The Shadow of Light Eternal. The Will Opposing."

Manuel froze. That was... there was no way the other man could know that. That secret was cloaked in a thousand pieces of darkness, hidden beyond all eyes. The other man had struck right through every obfuscation he'd ever laid and understood his Dao.

"How?"

Altar Lord laughed, and it turned into another hacking cough, chunks of flesh spat out from his mouth. Not long now.

"Join me, and I'll tell you everything. If I could kill you and seize the Will Opposing, make no mistake. I would do so. But... I suspect it would only come to someone like you, who believed in it for its own sake, though. Not someone like me. I need you desperately. Our cause needs you desperately. Join me, and I'll help you seize the entire Desert. We'll throw the Righteous Powers back, and make plans. There is only one chance for my Lord, Manuel Komnenos. Only one chance for me, only one chance for all your people. Join with me and seize it. I can't guarantee victory, but together we'll have a chance. Nothing more than that. If we win, you can end Blood Path yourself if you'd like. Rule the whole Third Sea as you please. Kill every criminal like me, for all that matters. All I ask is that you overthrow Heaven before it crushes us under its heel."
"All I ask is that you overthrow Heaven before it crushes us under its heel."

The Overturtle, supposedly, rules multiple entire seas and smacked down the Golden Devils at their height, but Old Gold is supposed to help overthrowing it?

(I'm going to dub this "Dark Mirror of Heaven" thing the Jellyfish, that's kinda opposite to a turtle.)

This whole situation seems kinda bizarre to me, and the most sensible explanation I can come up with is that Old Gold doesn't really "bear" the Jellyfish - rather, the Overturtle and the Jellyfish are fighting, both parties are massive slow powers, and so they work in part through faster-moving humanoids. Old Gold is a pawn of the Jellyfish. The real reason Altar Lord can't seize the Jellyfish is that it's bigger than him, but still smaller than the Overturtle. And Altar Lord's request is that the various pieces on the Jellyfish's side of the board get their act together and team up so they can beat the un-teamed members of what would otherwise be Team Overturtle.

I don't like it. I think that at best, this would result in the Jellyfish (Heaven's Shadow) ruling this sea in place of the Overturtle (Heaven).

What have I missed? There's probably a bunch of cosmological stuff I skipped over because this quest is huge and the cosmology is weird.
 
Yeah, but... It's also possible that he removed his memory and knowledge of his real true path and laid a breadcrumb of clues for himself that would lead him to genuinely hold a mindset that would be convincing to Manuel.


I mean, this does sound sincere, but... If he can hide secrets from Manuel in one way, he can hide secrets from Manuel in another way too. Though, yes. Assuming we can take what we see in the interlude for granted, this does seem sincere, but...

The thing is though, Manuel didn't get that POV segment from the Altar Lord, we the readers did. That was a entirely OOC narrative switch from everything I could tell, almost certainly because had Occipital not done so we wouldn't have trusted him for a second.

It's one thing to have a unreliable narrator or to deal with convuluted schemes from the IC pov of what Manual knows, but should we really be worried the QM is going to pull a Total Recall style gotcha on us out of nowhere when 4th wall style shenanigans haven't been a thing in this quest before? That seems a little much.
 
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I wonder...

Are One Pillar-Cultivators strong enough to hold up the sky, like Atlas himself?

Is that why their Tribulation is so hard and they have the ability to bring down a sliver of Dao even in Foundation Establishment? Because they're a person who might be strong enough to uphold an entire sky or heaven on their shoulders, or something absurd like that?
I think it's something like breaking your own fate from Heaven, the more you go unorthodox the less heaven has a hold on you.
The God-Machine is afraid of them and classifies them as threats to itself or the world, which is why it throw's tribulation's at them like its going out of style.
 
You know... I wonder if the Shadow of Heaven is actually a real thing and exists?

Er, that is. I wonder if it was made. (Or found.) I wonder if it exists to the same degree that the Demonic Altar itself is a thing that exists.

What if, the Imperial Optimatoi made raised a great mirror shield, to blind heaven and shelter their fellows in its shadow? Just like the Demonic Soup Chef left behind an altar?

I mean, I know. It definitely seemed to exist, when we were picking the Boon option. It already seemed to exist as more than just a the-particular-Dao-that-Manuel-believes thing. But now, I'm wondering if the Imperial Optimatoi created or brought with them (if they really are from another world) something comparable to the Demonic Altar.
 
[ ] Yes. Declare for the Noble Devil Alliance. Invade the Jingshen Clan. Declare war on the Righteous Path.

I agree with more or less the majority of supporting notions for this vote - but if I had to highlight the core of why I'm voting this...

I'm of the mind that Heaven's Will has adequate influence to steer the course of sects and the choices thereof - and, in conjunction with the Heaven's not liking the playable faction, I interpret this as meaning regardless of what social-fu we do the Heavens will course-correct natives into mindsets and choices that would see the player faction destroyed. Given this interpretation of the Heaven's Will and its practical ramifications regarding other factions' view of the playable faction, saying Yes and saying No both seem to have the same potential end of oodles of factions opposing us - and in that case I'd rather the option that nets a potent ally that, while severely problematic is expressed as having an expiration date.

...Also I generally prefer the more dramatic vote options because I'd rather have some wild ride of an update to read now than later.
 
Well, the Optimatoi are from another world and I imagine that world had something similar to a heaven by nature, just not in morality. Maybe it's some shard of that foreign Heaven's will still shielding it's people from this one's?

Actually, this makes me wonder if it's possible that the Sea Conquering Army left something around that might be able to contact the Devil's old homeland and ask for some measure of help.
 
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Zeno Angelus - Meeting the new blood

That endeavour took a long time to finish. I travelled far and wide over the desert in the past two decades and I, Zeno Angelus, am sick of it. The familiar dunes leading to my home estate may lead my steps a new spring of energy, knowing I reach ever close to home, but I can´t feel only exhaustion at seeing various desert locales every day and night. My new companions nonstop swooning over everything devil related at least allows me to relieve my boredom with some nice conversation.

For the first five of those years, I mostly travelled the Jingshen lands as a merchant, making connections with many different factions of the Jingshen, getting a close view of their various feuds and disputes. Caravan master Woo Ning (of the external trade faction) doesn´t like the dunists because they want more than just money, some higher purpose, which we Golden Devils already strive for daily and many of the Jingshen look to us in envy for it. Getting the caravan master as my patron was easier than I thought, since the Jingshen, turtle blooded as they are at heart, value their face even among their family and I quickly found employment as the token merchant hailing from the Golden Devil lands. Oh, they didn´t suspect I was a part of the clan, but my mannerisms made it obvious. Though, changing body paint and applying the illusion every single day may have been exhausting, but it was so worth it! The caravan master practically handed me the reigns on my own caravan in a few short years, just to annoy the dunists and show them how easy it was to `integrate the barbarians`, heh yeah.

As it turned out the dunists didn´t care for the pomp of the caravan master, but had to play with it, since not giving this caravan master face would lead to trouble. Getting those dunists to talk about their brethren was surprisingly easy and I didn´t even have to lie most of time. They wanted information on how the Golden Devils traditions started and I got first-rate information about juicy trade lanes. Win-win for both sides, since my information were mostly old children's tales the Jingshen didn´t know about due the hostile trade relations, coupled with the many border states in-between.

The next ten of those years I travelled all over the desert and eventually made my way to the Shen kingdom, where I had an interesting meeting arranged for me by those same dunists and an aspiring King, who alleged to want only the best for his people. Sometimes I wonder what he really thought about my sudden ascension in-between the days we met.

That first meeting with the King of the Shen kingdom was interesting, for lack of a better term. I, as an independent merchant under the aegis of the Jingshen clan, was asked to present myself in front of the king to talk about incense of all things, though not before telling me at length the history of this kingdom before it even became this kingdom and how they are the rightful heirs of this peculiar palace full of wonderous arrays carved in the Jade.

As we dined on finest spirit boar meat, grown in the pens of the western district, he painted me picture how the same-named palace Shen came to be.

The Shen lands were terraformed long ago by a great cultivator called Shen, who used this palace as a haven for his family, while the patriarch himself fought in distant wars. He never came back, so his far weaker descendants settled around the sprawling Jade palace. The kingdom is divided in the four heavenly directions, with the palace being the middle place where power gathers, politically and spiritually.

According to the king of Shen the rightful descendants, himself included of course, have ruled these small lands since long before the turtle died and only sought peace, allying themselves with whomever provided them the most protection of outsiders. All of this is known to be possible thanks to the palace and it´s immaculate arrays, every new leader, be it a captain of the army, or king, carefully maintain every inch of their wonderful splendour. The arrays practically move in the inner palace, showing the might of Shen to all who enter and allegedly hiding the kingdom from prying eyes no matter their power.

He then goes on about the many peoples that have laid claim to own the Shen kingdom as their vassal, but people in their hundred-thousand-year long history have every truly owned the Shen kingdom and it has almost nothing do with military matters and everything to do with the splendour of the turtle. He then points out that not even the greedy Shanqu before us had not truly conquered the descendants of Shen and we Golden Devils are no different. This is his, to be honest, not very convincing argument why the people of Shen have not been eradicated yet. Though, his next grand statement raises my interest.

"After all, who would wish to ruin the only tissue of turtle-heart freely given as a boon to the original King of Shen before it has truly grown?"

"The answer is simple. No one dares, for the remnant of the turtles will loves the people of Shen and the people of Shen wait with all the same love, hoping one day the turtle may reincarnate using this growing heart to power it´s revenge against the children of the terrible Soup Chef!"

I can´t help but clap at such a fantastic speech given freely and without cracking up once. "Your grace truly knows well to sway the hearts of men." My voice carrying a slight echo in the tall middle dome, decorated luxuriously for our midday lunch.

This was more of a banquet for two hundred legionnaires, but who am I to judge the word choice of his grace, doubly so if good food is served. The noodles aren´t quite as well done as I hoped, but the mystery where I tasted better noodles must be shelved. Now it´s worktime.

"Ah, thank you Honourable Merchant Ren and might we add how great it is to see you again? You have done well, we hope?" The bearded and burly man trying his best to sound as if we were long lost friends meeting again after decades of separation.

"I have been well your grace. How may this humble merchant serve you if I may?" If the King is put off by my approach to this conversation, I don´t notice it.

"Well, for starters, you don´t need to give me a gift for we are all friends here!"

"I must insist your grace. How could this junior leave without giving you something appropriate for this occasion?"

"Ah, if you insist, I suppose I can take it." Huh, that was quick. Normally this waffling happens for at least an entire incense stick long. He must be in a real pinch then, if he wants me all buttered up for his deal. Maybe he will even give the brochure to one of his daughters. The previous owner certainly no longer needs help with child birthing.

He looks at the brochure for a few more moments before handing it to one of his own servants in the lower Qi stage and his gaze returning firmly back to me, with a genial smile on his lips. Practiced for hours without end, I am sure. No one is that happy all the time.

Seating comfortably once more, he addresses me with all the nobility-in-action the station of his grace demands. "Merchant Ren, the incense trade between our factions is certainly valuable, but sadly not the only reason we have called for your attendance this fine evening."

An understanding nod and a small bite of my chocolate pudding is all the action I am allowed before his grace starts talking once more. Chewing while his grace talks is rude after all.

"We need you to distract the terrible drill seeking to disturb the peace of our Lord Mountain Stinging Diamond Maw."

Well, there go my plans to sell some incense. Not taking this naked opportunity to annoy the Jingshen would be stupid. Maybe I can even get some competent cultivators to properly plan out an ambush?

"May this humble merchant ask, how his grace seeks to take this matter up with the vile enemy?"

The King, flicking his gold covered fork to point skywards, "After great contemplation we have decided we will see you off with an army of holy scorpions to punish the forces the vile heathens use to desecrate the holy mountains!"

Before I can begin to clap for such an amazing speech, the huge rainbow-jade carved stone door close mightily and let in the old presence.

"Well said oh wise king of Shen. The piercing qi of the holy scorpions will surely devour the enemy's dastardly ritual!"

The King, happy with that announcement, allows the priest to attend to him at this small gathering for lunch.

"Ah, Court priest Hamun, good to see you! How were your morning ablutions in quicksand? Satisfactory, I hope?"

Though this statement of the king was quite forward, the priest seems to take it with good humour and shows a small smirk for all to see.

"Ha, Wise one is quite forward. Don´t be fooled we are not brothers in arms, yet." Interesting, the king seems to be trying to hire this priest.

"Greetings holy one, may this humble merchant Ren of the Jingshen Trade Association learn to whom he is talking to?"

After an approving nod by the king, he begins. "This priest of the Grand Scorpion Maw is called Hamun of the glorious sting and I hail from the Malachite Scorpion Sect from the prestigious Divided Mortal kingdoms."

"Travel far from the scorpion road has not been strenuous I hope?"

"It has not, young merchant. It only took me two weeks on foot as the vulture flies."

"I see, but would you share how you braved the Cactus wastes? Few manage to brave it without being poked into submission." This talk seems to have sparked a curiosity in his grace, because he ordered for more information without protocol demanding it.

"True young merchant, we rarely hear of travellers braving that region this fast. Would you share the story of your blessed journey?" Maybe this old monster will even join me!

"I certainly would, your grace. Not telling all acolytes what blessing I received on my journey would be quite unbecoming."

The thrum of qi I sense shortly thereafter clears my suspicions right up. An army of scorpions can certainly be gathered with so much Scorpion qi focused in one staff. A chitinous-looking staff is revealed from beneath the folds of his large earthen robes.

"And what a blessing it is! The ritual will be all the greater for it!" Despite the king's excitement, seeing a few servants off to the realms of the liminal by a wave of spiritual force, most of the servants hold on to their minds.

"Yes, truly your grace. By the power of this staff, gifted to me by our Lord, an army of holy scorpions is gathering as we speak! All we need is someone worthy to handle them."

With the statement ringing in these cavernous halls, the onus is on me to take initiative, as both look to me expectantly. A good merchant does trade with everyone, after all. The terrible omen to the hoard of this rivalrous faction in 'my clan' is an obvious opportunity for wealth young Ren can´t afford to miss and they know it. Ugh, not taking such an obvious opportunity could be seen as not being ambitions enough, even though they quite certainly are talking down the magnitude of this endeavour. Cursing my lack of foresight in choosing a young merchant's persona, who gained his place solely by opportunistic use of heavenly favour, I walk into the obvious trap.

"This merchant is happy to provide his services for one as mighty as you, King of the Shen Kingdom, Lord of the Turtle-Jade-Palace. The reward will surely be worthy of our trade deal negotiated fairly above the turtles shell and under the eye of the Scorpion!"

The Jingshen are known for their greed and they know us Golden Devil for our lack of offensive intrigue, Old Gold being the exception, who can´t afford to move or be suffer for it in turn. For all my reservations I can´t deny my excitement for this naked opportunity to blow their money-making scheme wide open.

"Well said young Ren. I am sure our lord will bless your battles to come!" A goblet is raised in approval.

"Indeed, young merchant. We have decided to accept your offer and reward you with materials worthy of your cultivation once you have punished the heathens!"

"Hear, Hear!" The smile of the old priest growing ever wider, seemingly rowing with the rumbling murmurs in the background.

With that said, we eat and enjoy the lunch before parting our ways, the chitinous piercer left in my care as their chosen one.

I use my week wisely. The past few years have given me experiences I never would have thought possible half a century ago. I have battled Cannibals from the Pits to Three Frog City, helped a Devil bee live again amongst her loved ones. I have also witnessed Mount Tai in all its glory and live to tell the tale. No matter who scoffs at the tall tale that my life has become, I know that I live my dream with every moment, awake or not.

It´s my time to take the next step and ascend.

There are many unused cellars in the middle palace and after some divination I stumble upon a ventilation shaft flowing with a great source of dream qi, near a cellar full of thousand-year spirit wine.

On my way the eighth princess accompanies me, speaking quite fondly in the deserted halls, of the single time she truly let loose and partied with an outpost of legionnaires. The talk, of course, quickly flows towards my reason for being down here.

"Is quite simple, I seek a place to ascend. As I am now, I can´t utilize the full of the spear-staff."

"How noble of you! You truly intend to destroy these Jingshen for their folly, huh."

"Yes, my Lady. It´s my reputation as a merchant on the line. I can´t afford to lose!" Princess Xia Shen simply smirks and inclines her head to the left, while we walk in the tall ventilation shaft.

She stops before me. "Let´s stop the pleasantries, shall we?"

I raise the shaft of chitinous piercer slightly to ready myself.

"Truly? Would you wish to discuss something else then?"

"Yes, I wish to become an auxiliary to your legion!"

She bows deeply and my lower jaw follows her bow all the way. Is this some kind o-?

"I know only of this secret because my personal art allows me smell bloodlines. Your secr-"

Before she can utter one more syllable I strike and chitinous piercer lashes out at her, finding purchase on a loose shawl. A true strike is beyond me, as the resulting early Foundation Establishment spiritual wave from her quickly erects mirror barriers in front of me and surely to my back. No escape then.

"If this junior wishes a spar as a test, then this we shall endeavour to prove the merit of our teachings!" A thin sword made of howling sand and a handle, woven with turtle shells, appears from the long sleeves of her robes, the wielder already in motion to cut.

A quick jump backwards allows me enough space to correct my footing at the cost of giving her time to attack. The first parry almost knocks my spear out of my hands. In the same breath I use a curved lunar kick to her left heel to quickly reset the momentum.

With the first clash done, we circle one another for a few breaths and plan. I don´t allow her to regain her lost momentum and strike first, chitinous piercer striking true with the arc of a small mountain. Her parry coming only moments before it pierces her flesh, carving a small slice out of her robes, exposing pure flesh.

She simply nods, acknowledging the damage to her apparel with cold fury. Vengeance comes swiftly shortly thereafter. With every small strike and stab of hers, she remains in my guard, slicing bits and pieces of my own tunic in the melee. After a long series of parries, I even manage to jump over her first low strike of this bout and pierce a small flesh wound in her pretty face, but that´s all for naught in the end, because my agility simply can´t be compared to the regal one before me. I stand outmatched and we both know it.

"Peace, friend." I slowly lay down my weapon before me. A nod follows from my martial superior.

"Know that I intend no harm towards you, but I really wish to join your legion as an auxiliary."

"Why?" Really, why would a princess want to join the most cursed clan in the whole third sea?

"I walk the Dao of Nobility, which would mean my demise, if my father ever found out about it, so I seek sanctuary while I gather strength to face my siblings."

"Fair enough, but why should we risk a diplomatic incident with you?" Qi, incandescent in its glory glows with authority to care for all under its aegis.

"Because I vow upon my Dao heart that I shall assist my allies of the Golden Devil Clan in all endeavours until the coming hundred years trial has purged my Dao of Nobility of its impurities." The qi swirls slowly around her and heavens distant rumbling on the liminal plane seals the pact.

"Welcome to the 302nd​ Legion then, auxiliary Xia." This is going to be an interesting report with Legate Callista, isn´t it?

Shortly thereafter she hands me the spear-staff chitinous piercer back and prepares herself to guard my back while I ascend towards my own pillar. The smoke of thousand-year wine qi in my surroundings filling pathway through my nostrils now that combat no longer sets my meridians ablaze in dream qi.

Before long I meditate, not in lotus position, like so many, but with my father's sword in hand, going through the techniques I was taught by Jin Muyi's side decades ago. What is my dao? Dao is the path a person walks, and my path crossed so many different dreams, yes. Dream. I have seen so many dreams bloom to fruition in these decades. The mourning vine man Jin Muyi, besting all the clans' armies in single combat; Lin'er, who traded her whole life long as a traveling merchant and brought prosperity to Three Frog City and Lady Callista unleashing the sum of her dreams on her enemies to protect the buds of other dreams; and how could I ever forget my own father, Georgy Angelus, who now serves Mount Tai after protecting our family from the depredations of the Blood hordes. All of them stood their own test to the end, unbowed and steadfast as a mountain. Hm, mountain. My first pillar has something to with a mountain, but doesn´t simply stand. It´s something more, spiritually speaking. Lord Tai would brook no simple mountain in the Dao of his mantle after all.

Mount Tai floats in the liminal plane, a floating Mountain… Yes, The Mountain floats!

There once was a [Floating Mountain] …

In my mind's eye the story weaves the dream qi in my sea of qi to form my Dao. The qi swirls slow, but steady, to reveal [Floating Mountain]. With the first pillar revealed to me, I knew that all walking beside me can count on me to support them on their path. It does not matter that the unorthodox path is immediately more effective. My steady actions will realize their own merit in time and someday my dream shall become part of reality!

With that statement of intent cut into the world with my dance, I awake to the regal site of Lady Shen guarding me with her back to me, as she promised. Without a word spoken between us, I sheath my sword, hide it under the folds of my robes and accept the spear-staff back. Lady Shen, no, Xia congratulates me for my accomplishment and accompanies me back to my quarters in the outskirts. She may not accompany me to the palace proper later in the week, but her help will be even more potent in the coming mission, of that, I am sure.

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Future AU – Manuel – The Path of Heaven’s fall - The Unholy alliance
So, one thing I think is important to recall is that the Strength Purity Sect, and all of those other Righteous Sects? They banded together in response to us saving the Xin Kingdom after the Seven Saber Divine Palace left them to die and headed over to the Mountains to wipe us out.

By the way, their intent wasn't just to push us out of the Mountains, it was literally complete annihilation. The only reason the Golden Devils survived was because our sole Spirit Severing Elder sacrificed his life to buy us time to move into the deserts enough not to get wiped out in our retreat.

I don't think we should forget that, tbh. Or rather, I think that IC, the grudge from something like that, in addition to the general scorn that they have for us as well as the curses that Heavens put on the Golden Devils with us getting a third of our population murdered every century in addition to other things, is enough to make accepting the deal an IC decision.

It could go either way, though, that's for sure. This is just my perspective on how they may feel about the Heavens and the Righteous Powers.
Hang on, borrowing this inspiration. 839 words.

Future AU – Manuel – The Path of Heaven's fall - The Unholy alliance

"We trusted you. Helped you. Offered you aid where no one else would. And you betray us like this?"

Once the woman on the ground would have been beautiful. Here and now, one cheek is caved in, her nose is broken, blood and worse stains robes that were once pure white. Even so, her anger seems to summon an echo of her usual inhuman beauty. The purity of her rage echoing in her dao and reflecting back into the world. It's beautiful.

Manuel does not care. Beauty alone has long since lost its hold over his soul. If mere beauty could hold him he would have never survived as a nascent soul. But perhaps sentiment still holds the tiniest piece of his heart, or perhaps the whisper of the opposer of heaven tells him that his true enemy would never stoop to offering an explanation. Or perhaps he too is exhausted from their fight. Whatever the reason is, she is owed an explanation.

"Do you remember the Jin Kingdom?" He asks quietly. His skeletal, bronze covered frame towering above her. With his viscous meat cleaver in hand, the tableau presented is truly fitting of a ballad. The noble heroine brought low by the treacherous, skeletal sorcerer.

The stories of this world often find a way to cast the Golden Devils as the villains. One of heaven's more minor efforts, and one Manuel is long inured to.

"The Jin owed their fealty to the Seven Divine Saber Palace." He lectures. "Yet when the Abyssal Demon sect attacked, laying waste to the empire and killing tens of millions of mortals and cultivators alike, the Saber Palace refused to help. As of course, did you." His lips twitch, a hint of a frigid smile.

"Instead, it was the Golden Devils who came to the aid of the Jin Empire. Who saved tens of millions of mortal lives. And it was the so called 'righteous' path that stopped us from wholly destroying the menace that was the Abyssal demon sect entire.

"Instead the so called righteous sects united against us, slaying our leaders, still wounded from their battle to save ten million souls, in cowardly ambush."

His smile is teeth alone, with no warmth.

"For greed. For malice and avarice. That is what underpins the so called righteous path. And you were part of that alliance. That alliance that sought to kill every man, woman and child with even a drop of our blood in their veins." Rage, supressed so long and so thoroughly it had almost been invisible fills his form.

"We have been true, fair in our--"

"FAIR!?" He booms. "Yes…" His voice quietens, instead hissing with the intensity of his emotions. "…I suppose you have been fairer in dealings than your ancestors might have. But- " his eyes are filled with resolve. "-we are not so foolish as to forget your hatred of us. For so long as the Demonic Altar stands free, it's power waxing, we are useful. But should that end? Should you ever have the chance to truly devote your attention to us? We know what you would do."

"No matter what you do here, you will fail." She sneers up at him. "The righteous will always emerge to oppose the vileness of the Demonic."

Her power surges, her righteous declaration blaring into the world and echoing into the Great dao, drawing power back with it. She leaps forth, power flying from her fists in waves. Her fist rockets toward the skull like visage…

And she falls like a broken puppet as her fist gets within half a meter. Beneath her, surrounding him, a great array reveals itself as Manuel's hold on his Dao slackens, releasing the great weight of hiding this construct from the world.

He slumps, the sustaining rage in his frame vanishing, and he looks every one of his one thousand six hundred years.

"One hundred years. A hundred years of bloodshed and war unknown since the Jin war claimed my master's master's master. All to buy time."

If the righteous sects can hold out for a mere hundred years, his agreement will expire and the spirit stones will flow across the scorpion road once more. For a hundred years the Noble Devil alliance will rampage. The blood altar will wax for a time, and wane again as they spread too far from the source of their empowerment, unable to return the bodies of their foes and comrades in time for the altar to do it's terrible work. Should it come together in truth, the righteous path will be able to stalemate the Noble devil alliance, yet it will require all their attention.

One hundred years to make their control of the desert unassailable. To make the clan strong once more. To begin his preparations for a war grander than any seen in millennia. For in one hundred years, it is not the righteous path he expects to be facing first.
 
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Minervina Barda 21 - Long Bi’s Musings.
Minervina Barda 21: Long Bi's Musings.

If you had asked me in my youth, all those years ago, if I thought any single person would so thoroughly come to dominate my life, I would have spit in your eye. I was a bit of a wildcat back then. I grew up rough and fast in the meaner corners of Emporikipolis, the great trade city at the foot of the Indomitable Peaks. My father was most likely a Cultivator travelling on a caravan along the Scorpion Road, but I never met him. My mother had a small living as a seamstress, but it paid barely enough to buy bread for my siblings and us. I did what I could to help make ends meet, but street urchins don't get a lot of paid labour. It worked out in the end I suppose, It was when I accidentally picked a Devils pocket that my talent got noticed. The recruitment fee had set mum up for years and secured fine dowries for my sisters.

An old ache clutched my heart at the thought and I stood up from the window seat of my little flat in the Dawn Fortress. I might as well put the kettle on if I was going to daydream about the past. It's a modest space, just four small rooms with sparse furnishings. It was quite lavish for a Qi Condensation Disciple and I was particularly proud of the beautiful view out on to the Tall Wheat Fields. Being the personal aid of the infamous Slaughter in the Sands did have some perks after all. Speaking of which I still had some of the dried Star-Struck Orchid leaves left. I put them to boil alongside a handful of mundane (but better tasting) herbs while my thoughts drifted back to my family.

The last of my sisters had passed around a decade ago, so wracked by age she couldn't recognise her own children. I came to her at the end and she thought I was an angel come to guide her on the path to the next life. There are good reasons why Cultivators tend to live apart from the rest of humanity. I never thought I would be like that when I first started out, it seemed cruel and arrogant, but I suppose a lot of wisdom looks that way to a youthful soul.

In many ways, the last century has gone by in a flash. After that incident with the thoughtful Devil, I was utterly wrapped up in the affairs of the Clan, despite my lack of bloodline. I trained as hard as I could, but I never really kept up. Maybe my talent was flawed or the Optimatoi's techniques were ill-suited for me. I would have most likely stalled out early, and been condemned to a life at the bottom of Qi Condensation, doing menial chores until the day I died of old age or was killed in some conflict I didn't know the details of. Instead, I met the most arrogant, terrifying and thoroughly competent woman I have ever had the misfortune to ask for advice.


That first meeting is still something of a blur. I remember her sudden anger, her unleashed aura felt akin to being thrown into a pit of anxious vipers. I ran, obviously, desperate to get away from the enraged Optimatoi. Then something shifted, some gear changed behind that unscrupulous mask of hers. She found me, took my arm and solved my problems, asking for only a little bookwork in exchange.

Our relationship has been much the same ever since. She helps me overcome the pathetic little hurdles in my Path while taking ludicrous great leaps forward on her own. In return, I play the role of the handmaiden, student, secretary and confidante. Perhaps even a friend, on my more ambitious days.

"It would be enough to make a girl jealous" I smile, clutching at the stump of my left arm. How could I be envious? She saved my life at Pleuron. Oh not directly, that's against Heaven's blasted diktats. But the blood sealing pills that staunched my wounds and gave me strength, and the Blackroot Venom that stole my attacker's breath away. Gifts, crafted with love and care by my friend, who gave up time from her own desperate preparations to make life-saving measures for me.

If only there had been more time. I still remember her at Pleuron, advising the 13, never flinching in the face of enemies that terrified the rest of us. I remember the rank and file whispering her name and how impressed they were by our association. Her poisons killed so many, saved so many. If she had just a bit more time, maybe she would have been able to save herself?


She fled the city shortly after the battle. I was recovering from the loss of my arm, she had stopped by only to leave a note saying where she was going and that she had already paid for the cost of a prosthetic. I heard stories from those who had seen her, they whispered about Fifth Sea curses and evil spirits. We corresponded a little, I still have the letters. She never said it in words, but her loneliness was etched into every character. When my health recovered, and I gathered all the reagents she had requested, I anxiously commandeered a coach to take me to her hermitage. I left both excited to see my friend and worried about what I would find.


The truth was worse than I had imagined. Minervina has never been a vain woman, but I could feel her shame at her shrivelled and decrepit state. Oh, she put up a brave front with that old spinster persona she loves so much, but it didn't take nigh on a century of acquaintance to see that she was in more than just physical pain. It would take more than a soul wound and a tainted aura to drive her out into the wilderness like that. I think the events at Pleuron were something of a knock to her confidence, that sense of invincibility she carries around like so much gravebronze armour. She went back to that cesspit of a fishing village to find something solid to stand on, to reconnect with her foundation and build anew.

I don't know if she really found what she was looking for. The blasted woman never talks about her feelings.

But imagine my delight, and by this point utter lack of surprise, when her crazy idea for a cure actually works. After a brief tussle with a trio of Core Formation Scorpions, and no not even I believed her the first time she told me the story, she comes back to the Dawn Fortress a hero in the making, a rising star and one of the Clans best hopes for the future. As always I was right by her side when we marched to war with the Blood Cannibals.


It's a curious thing, being the trusted right hand of the 'Commanding Centurion' of a Golden Devil task force. Anything and everything that people don't want putting in writing comes through you. I found being a quartermaster and impromptu adjutant in equal parts thrilling and terrifying. Keeping a dozen bureaucratic plates spinning at once is somehow incredibly fulfilling to me while having people nod and praise you for your genius and hard work is daunting when you know just how close to disaster you are at any given moment.

But at least I know I'm good at it.

Watching Minervina the Centurion at work is a frustrating study in contrasts. Her devotion to duty ensures that all regulatory requirements are met, both big and small. "A Poison Mistress knows how important it is to keep the latrines the right distance from the cook tents" and all that. But once the enemy arrives the rulebook goes out the window and the Clans tried and tested battle tactics get 'augmented' with whatever new toy has got her attention this month. We all try and play our parts of course, but she only gives us snippets of the grand plan, the bare minimum really. It rather gives the impression she's making it all up on the spot, which can cause concern amongst those not used to her.

But we all fall in line, because we know she has a damn good chance of getting away with it. That some terrifying new weapon would nullify the enemies advantages and give us a fighting chance. The legionnaires in her unit are so certain of her infallibility by this point I am quite certain they would step into literal hellfire if asked, unshakeable in the belief that she has some powder or solution in that pouch of hers to make them inflammable.

I know she dreads command. I know that she has already turned down tacit offers to take up a Legion early like some of the other Great Ones of her generation. She doesn't think she's worthy of that kind of trust.

Drinking down my tea in a single long pull, I affirm to myself. "Well, I suppose it's my job to find a way to change that."

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2nd Omake for Turn 9 @ReaderOfFate @no. @Kaboomatic

Just over 1500 words, plus whatever people think the pictures are worth.

Originally just planned to use Long Bi as a bit of plot device here to weave together the different Heroforge pictures, but honestly, I am pretty pleased with how this one turned out. I enjoy sections in books where we suddenly get to see the protagonist from an outside perspective. It's really revealing if well done.

I have the bones of another Omake planned out, not sure if it will be the third of this turn the first of the next though.
 
Maria 15 - Promotion Day
Promotion Day
Maria turn 9 third omake

Afternoon already, and I'm trying not to shit myself. Don't know why they left it so late. Promotion doesn't need to be made such a, a… a fancy. Could just send me a letter, tell the quartermaster to give me pins, and that's that. But no. Here we are instead, morning wasted, still more time burning while we wait.

They've cleared out the canteen for this, too. Whole legion will have had to go without breakfast. I fucking hated that, when it was me down there watching this song and dance. Can't imagine things have changed.

Fuck me. Can't they just get on with it? The side-room isn't big. They use it for storage - cleaning supplies, normally. Right now there's me, four other new captains, and our sponsors, all in dress uniform and clean bronze. Really clean bronze; spent most of last night polishing it till I can see my face in it. Got Letha to comb out my hair, too. She's on leave; the 115th took casualties against the cannibals and they're grounded until the greenies are a little more broken in. Nice to have her around.

"Almost time." Ajax, next to me, resplendent in his Panoplia breastplate and helmet. His line's young, so it's not a full set yet, but still, willing gravebronze makes an impression. He's got the legbrace on, too, even if I can't see it, because he was walking smooth and straight. "Don't be nervous."

"'M not nervous."

"Of course. My mistake." He shoots me an amused glance. I glare. Not funny. Anyone else, any other time, I'd have picked a fight. Adonia taught me that. Better not to back down. But this is Ajax. He's a special case.

"It's alright," he says, soothingly. "You'll be fine."

"I know."

"Good."

Awkward silence. Be worse if the others were listening, but every other sponsor-aspirant pairing seems to be having the same conversation.

"...What if I trip?"

"You won't trip."

"I might. Tripped when I was on the way out to Three Frogs."

"That was 20 years ago. And two heavenstages. You've set down an Olympian Keystone, I'm sure you can walk across a stage."

Don't get a chance to reply, because then the door's open and we walk out, slow and ceremonial. Legate's in the room, along with the centurions and captains not on deployment. Rest of the legion's standing around, watching. Lot of dusky faces watching us intently.
Watching *me* intently. Suddenly very aware that my helmet's crest isn't brushed out all the way. Left the back of it. Thought no-one would see. Stupid. So *stupid.* Maybe I-

Legate's talking.
"Sponsors. You know these children. You have vouched for their character. Do you still do so?"
"I do." Sponsors sound calm and confident. Seen this before. Done it before, some of them. Not a complicated ritual, though. The Legate nods, turns to look at us.

"Aspirants. You know yourselves. You have called yourselves worthy to command. Do you still do so?"
No. No I don't. Didn't even put my name forward, Ajax did.
"I do," I say with the others, hoping my voice doesn't shake. The Legate looks at each of us, nods again.

"Legionnaires. You know these Optimatoi. You have served beneath and alongside them. Do you still do so?"
"I do," comes the response in a chorus of quiet voices. Rote. Mechanical. Meaningless. Doesn't seem to matter, though, as the Legate nods one last time.
"Then I name them captain."

She turns, comes to each of us one at a time, fastens the new captain's pins to our breastplates. The legion applauds. Gutless Heaven, I hate this.
"Well done."
She's gotten to me. I fix my eye on her face, plaster on a smile.
"Thank you, Legate."

Never realised how fucking huge Julia Foslia was until she was towering over me. I have to tilt my head back to see her. She's smiling at me, bland little smile that doesn't reach her eyes.
"These are small things," she says, as she attaches the pins. "But they carry the honour of the 263rd. It is a heavy weight." Something turns in her voice, tone going just that little bit colder. "Do not let them fall, captain."

I can't hold her gaze. Find myself staring at her collarbone.

"Yes Legate."

"Good."

And then she's gone, and it's over. Fuck me. Hated every minute of that. I drop out of parade rest like a puppet had its strings cut. Ajax actually laughs.

"Deep breaths," he says. "There you go."

"She's terrifying," I mutter, staring after her.

"Yes."

"No, she's - she's really scary. I think my hands are shaking."

"Probably. Now, do you want your mission or not?"

Mission? I turn to glare at him. He's still grinning at me like I'm a particularly amusing scorpion.

"Of course I want my-" No. Not very captainly to shout at another captain in the mess hall. I stop, breathe, make myself stop glaring. "Yes."

Ajax frowns a little at that. Don't think he's sure what to make of me… calming down. Fucking sad that that would surprise him, but probably also fair.
"Song," he said eventually. "You're going up to Song Kingdom to hold the line. Serving as an attachment to the 302nd​."

"...Callista's legion."

He nods. We're quiet, for a minute. I'm trying not to think about… about the battle. About how I was at the end of it. Doesn't work, though, my mind's full of it. Gods. 50 years old and I'm still just… fucking…

No. Don't even have words for it. They want me on the battlefield, huh? Well good. I know battlefields.

"Sounds like a fuckin' party," I drawl, and bare my teeth at Ajax. From the right angle, might just look like a smile.

He gives me a look I can't read.

"With your shield or on it, captain," he said. Halfway between exasperated and sad. "With your shield or on it."

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This started life as part of a collab with @Falconis , but then my life exploded and it'll probably never get done. To everyone else I was meant to write with this turn, sorry, I'll try and make it up to you when things are less hectic. Anyway, actually really liked writing Maria in the first person. Her personality comes out a lot more strongly. Might try some more. @Alectai @Humbaba @Kaboomatic may I please have a threadmark?
 
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Gaius Antonius & The Ninth Prince - Preparing For The Worst
Gaius Antonius Omake #34: Preparing For The Worst

Collaboration with @Kaboomatic , written with permission from @Alectai and @TehChron

For the twenty-seventh time, Gaius checked his list of things to bring on his trip. The Qigai Secret Realm was a dangerous and confusing place, in which a functionally infinite number of terrifying situations could occur. Worse still, a Cultivator was only allowed to enter the realm once, regaining the privilege for one additional entrance each time they ascended to a new great realm. Thus, he needed to travel light whilst also setting things aside for every possible situation.

After all, simply surviving the trip was an unacceptable failure; he would need to thrive, to achieve. Anything that could potentially trip him up and waste his time would have to be circumvented quickly, so as to cover as much ground as possible in the allotted year. The Seeker struggled again and again, parchment piling up in his wastebin as he constantly rearranged and altered the granularities of his list, never fully satisfied with any possible combination.

"...Ah, fuck it."

Gaius pushed his latest list aside and went to exit his personal apartment. It was relatively plainly furnished, with a small kitchen, a sizeable general-purpose storage room, a bedroom and a foyer. Nothing impressive, and it was perhaps a bit odd that an immortal, even a low-ranking one, would live in such a humble place, but Gaius just didn't care much for luxury. He was so constantly busy that most material comforts would be wasted on him anyway.

The only thing he really wished he could have in his house was a personal Contribution Board terminal, but such things were expensive to produce, and nearly impossible to mass-produce. Furthermore, they had to be physically linked up to the main contribution board via the gigantic spiderweb that was the underground terminal network. Thus, only true Imperial Optimatoi, those of Foundation Establishment or higher, were allowed to purchase a personal terminal. So for the time being, Gaius would need a short walk to view the board, and he could use the fresh air anyway.

Every public terminal was a minor treasure in its own right. They were constructed out of the most stable possible alloys to allow information to be transferred through tubes, which were themselves operated through some kind of self-cycling array matrix which Gaius couldn't wrap his head around in the slightest. The short version of thing was that when the main Contribution Board was changed, those changes would be copied onto every connected terminal through underground tube networks.

An unfathomable amount of resources went into maintaining this seemingly petty service, but to say such a thing within earshot of an Elder, or even an older Centurion, was to damn oneself to a month of hard labor - and that's if you were lucky. Indeed, those with a knowledge of the Clan's inner political workings understood quite well that this free and easy access to the Contribution Board afforded the Golden Devils a level of efficiency and cohesion which was completely unmatched in the Virtuous Flipper Region, and probably the entire Third Sea.

Nonetheless, a public service was a public service, no matter how efficient, and thus there were wait times. Gaius spent about three quarters of an hour in restless contemplation as the line before him sluggishly churned forwards. By the time he finally got his turn on the terminal, it was midday. There was technically no hurry, but Gaius enjoyed the sunlight, and tried to schedule his sleep and cultivation such that he could spend his remaining free time out under the harsh sun. It was a bit of a splurge, but Gaius wouldn't sit around reading off a terminal; he would much rather purchase the articles and read them out in a plaza.

Inputting a series of presses on the terminal's controls - a strange series of round metal buttons in a circular pattern which made a soft clack when one pressed down - the young man browsed through the unbelievably large lists that made up the portion of Clan knowledge available to Legionnaires. Gradually, he narrowed the keywords of his search, looking for something to fit his situation.

Finally, he singled out several articles which seemed to fit Gaius' standards: new enough to not be outdated, applicable to a Legionnaire entering the Qigai Secret Realm alone, and not ruinously expensive to purchase.

Spatial Rifts and You: A Beginner's Guide to Pathfinding in Secret Realms, by Rina Callista. 15 points.

Secret Realm Survival Made Simple, by Aretaphlia Myia. 12 points.

Tips for Achieving Glory, Honor and Great Justice in the Qigai Realm, by The Ninth Prince. 20 points.

These all seemed decent, and none were too exorbitantly priced. He would settle for these articles for now. Navigation, pragmatism and determination; those were probably the three most important factors, right?

Gaius finalized his purchases one at a time. He slid a large, blank sheet of parchment into an opening beneath the terminal, pressed the button and heard a whining and scratching sound from within the wall it was set into. Through yet another mechanism which Gaius did not understand, some terminals were connected to small arrays which could inscribe text onto blank parchment. This, of course, used up charcoal and qi, and refilling them was a pain; hence the additional cost to purchase an article permanently. After yet more waiting, all three of the texts were copied down, and the Legionnaire went on his way.

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Spatial Rifts and You: A Beginner's Guide to Pathfinding in Secret Realms


The Qigai and Yuan Secret Realms are an irreplaceable asset for our Golden Devil Clan's continued prosperity. Much has been written on the theory behind Secret Realms, how they are formed, how they generate new treasures and where they draw qi from, but to Legionnaires seeking fortune and wisdom, theory is not much use. Here, I aim to break down the most important elements of success within a Secret Realm into an easily-digestible guide.

Secret Realms are perhaps most infamously known for the extreme spatial warping that makes them so difficult to navigate. To most this would be dismissible as a roll of the dice, but like all forces within this world, space can be tamed with sufficient preparation and knowledge. There are patterns within each rift, which can be calculated and exploited so as to have oneself flung in the general direction of one's choice.

Firstly, a form of three-dimensional orientation is required so as to determine how directions are warped. For instance, when relying on your senses alone, you might turn right according to your own sense of balance, but actually turn left. Ideally, an Unfailing Compass Sphere would help maintain orientation with relative ease, but any enchanted compass or other magnetic treasure with which True North could be determined would serve as a suitable substitute.

Of course, just as important as orientation is distance. Determining how far a rift will send you in a given direction is often little more than guesswork, but this can be simplified by creating a Qi Matrix. That is; expelling qi in a zone and calculating the distance between qi-infused particles compared to the norm. While some particularly adept and precise experts(such as Demonic Tunists or curse practitioners) might be able to perform this technique unaided, the vast majority of Qi Condensation Cultivators will require assistance to pull this off.

Current Reading Pills can be tempting, but should you find yourself in danger before the effect wears off, the heightened qi sensitivity the induce can make you vulnerable to certain techniques, as well as overloading your spiritual sense in a combat situation. Certain forms of Divining Rods and Qi-Reading Paper can be used to sample the qi density in an area and potentially serve as a substitute, but this requires a scientific degree of precision in terms of the units of qi being exuded, which for some Cultivators may require other treasures or medicines to accomplish. Finally, those with a particularly weak spiritual sense should travel with a buddy if possible, as travelling through a Secret Realm blindly is tantamount to courting death. Ideally, one should practice the Qi Matrix to an acceptable degree of mastery in preparation to enter the Secret Realm, if possible.

Finally, the trait which most distinguishes those who prosper in a Secret Realm from those who don't is inquisitiveness. When wandering through the realm, one might by a seemingly ordinary clump of weeds, only for those plants to in fact be a rare spirit herb that would have advanced their cultivation significantly. If you don't know what something is, try to safely test it, or if you have the proper equipment, sample it. Just because you can't feel any qi coming off an object doesn't mean there is none stored within, so keep your eye out for anything that seems particularly unusual.

Building on the prior topic, an important part of inquisitiveness is a willingness to communicate. Sapient spirits and spirit beasts are surprisingly common in Secret Realms, so attempt to communicate with any you find, if it is safe to do so. You might find yourself guided to an opportunity you might not otherwise have found on your own.

This is far from an exhaustive handbook on Secret Realm navigation, but I hope that with these basic guidelines, the reader might achieve greater prosperity than they otherwise might have. Good hunting!



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Qigai Secret Realm Survival Made Simple


The most important thing I could tell you about entering the Qigai Secret Realm is to not get your hopes up.

A provocative statement, I know. Now that I have your attention, allow me to explain the best ways to keep yourself alive for the year and return home safe and sound. This will not be a guide to finding the best loot or the greatest opportunities, for such things often come down purely to one's personal fortune. While some say Heaven's disdain toward the Golden Devils has finally abated, I say this: even if Heaven doesn't hate the Clan anymore, it might hate you personally, so watch your back.

A Secret Realm is a place in which seemingly impossible occurrences are a common sight, and is thus both more rewarding and far more dangerous than the outside world. Staying alive will require equal parts preparation, wit and instinct, but I can only help you with that first part. The other two you'll have to acquire on your own, but if you're reading this, it means you're doing research before you dive in, so you at least have a little.

The Qigai Secret Realm can be roughly divided into types of zones, which I have taken the time to document and name based on my own experience and the testimonies of other Secret Realm survivors. This seems simple enough, but the truth is that sometimes these zones will overlap. So you may end up in an ordinary Ocean Zone, having to find your way to safety, or you might end up in an Ocean Zone which is also a Reversal Zone; an orb of water floating in the sky. Thus, a keen understanding of all of these places is necessary.

Normal Zone:

This Zone type has a misleading name. It is not that these places are just like the outside world. Closed loops in space or time, megafauna, mutated animals, plants and spirit beasts, and naturally-formed treasures are all still a common sight. This is simply the "default" state of the Secret Realm, atop which the traits of other Zones are layered. To survive in a Normal Zone, just be smart. Stay observant and use whatever powers you have available to keep a low profile and avoid dangerous fights. Remember, you're in there for a year; receiving a serious injury would seriously impact your performance for the rest of your visit.

Fertile Zone:

The Fertile Zone is marked by a higher than normal concentration of ambient qi, usually around the levels of qi found in the Verdant Plains, but sometimes higher than that. This results in far more verdant greenery than even the most overgrown of oases, and as a result these areas often have extremely potent spirit herbs, which can be used to advance one's cultivation significantly. However, they also are likely to contain especially large and powerful spirit beasts, and thus extreme caution is advised when scouting out the area. Under no circumstances should you fight a beast within the marsh or jungle; it knows how to fight in such territory and you do not. If possible, draw hostiles out into open clearings. All of that said, if you can ensure an area is safe for you, staying in a Fertile Zone gathering spirit herbs is not glorious, but it is a practical and very effective way to spend your time.

Ocean Zone:

It's an ocean. More specifically these zones are miniature seas, oceans and lakes in their own right, usually teeming with sea monsters. The good news is that, like the oceans, these zones have "safe lanes" in which humans will not be attacked. The bad news is that you probably won't be in an Ocean Zone by your own free will. If you fall into such a zone, you might just be fucked; the only advice I can give is to observe your environment and locate the safe lane as soon as possible, then reach the lane. From there, approach the nearest landmass while making sure to stay within the lane. Honestly, just pray as hard as possible that you won't be dropped straight into one of these.

Reverse Zone:

The Reverse Zones are marked by inverted or warped gravity, causing objects or entire landmasses to float up into the air. Qi Condensation Cultivators can survive a decent amount of punishment, but a fall into hard ground at terminal velocity will still break their bones, so the Reverse Zone is one of the most dangerous. Do not enter a zone like this unless you have a treasure or ability with which you can navigate freely through it, because the Reverse Zone is arguably the hardest type to escape safely.

Treasure Zone:

Places like this are the real reason people enter Secret Realms. When a particularly powerful treasure or natural array spends enough time in a Secret Realm, it will begin to "leak", warping the area around it into a form befitting the treasure itself. This also serves to protect the treasure from those who would seize it but do not deserve to. It is hard to give any sort of guideline for Treasure Zones, because each one is unique. You might find yourself in a space-time bubble, or a bone-chilling tundra, or a storm filled with hurricane-force winds. Thus, the only advice I can give you is to know your limits. As a Cultivator, your life has an inherent value; if you must spend it, spend it fighting against the Clan's enemies, rather than chasing after a reward you lack the strength to claim.

Barren Zone:

The inverse of the Fertile Zone, a Barren Zone is a place in which almost all of the ambient qi has been drawn away, leaving it difficult for a Cultivator to remain in such places for long. These places are pretty easy to survive: just leave. There won't be many spirit beasts and especially not strong ones, and it's very easy to navigate your way out by just going in the direction where the qi gets thicker. I will however, note that this Zone's inhospitable nature means there are often untapped resources held within. As usual, know your limits, but if you can take the strain for long enough to search around, you might find something that hasn't been picked clean yet.

With all of that information in mind, I must once again stress that you not get your hopes up. Secret Realms are teeming with all sorts of useful resources, but not nearly enough to provide for every person who enters. Statistically, you are likely to die, and if you don't then the next most likely outcome is that you emerge empty-handed, or with only minor benefits. Those who enter a realm and return multiple Heavenstages higher and bearing powerful new treasures are outliers. You mustn't fall in that accursed place, for that would be a truly wasteful death; come out safe and sound, because the chance of advancing as a corpse is always 0%.



Tips for Achieving Glory, Honor and Great Justice in the Qigai Realm


My first piece of advice to anybody wanting to go to the Qigai secret realm is simple. Don't. The Realm eats up talents for breakfast and geniuses for lunch, and the Clan pays an exorbitant amount of stones to secure a single spot. If you die in the realm, it isn't just a waste of resources, it's a waste of resources and a talent lost.

Of course, if you have enough treasures, techniques, secret arts, and other such things to keep you alive, by all means, go for it, petition one of the elders to sponsor your spot and take the opportunity given to you.

To aid in your chances of finding something worthwhile, I've compiled this handy list of what to do and not to do in the Qigai Secret Realm, compiled unfortunately from my own experiences and the stories of those I met within.

Hopefully this assists you in your endeavors.

1. Don't try and give the Stone-shelled turtles any sort of oyster or clam, they will challenge you to a surfing competition to the death and you will lose.

2. If you find any sort of spirit herb, please, for the love of the heavens and hells, don't smoke it unless you have a secret art related to doing so. Spirit herb doesn't always mean spirit herb.

3. Being a member of the Golden Devil Clan does not mean you are the authority on how to fight actual golden devils, and don't let any strange women with three arms tell you otherwise.

4. Reality is not poison, there is no reason to try and do anything about the 'moral and physical turpitude' of the Third Sea, and even if there was, your cultivation base isn't high enough to do anything about it.

5. If someone says in any context, even as a 'joke', that ghosts or spirits are in any way suitable as daoist partners or concubines, they deserve to be repeatedly shot in thr groin with a ballistic. This only applies if they say it in Qigai anyways. Anywhere else, let them live their lives.

6. Gods don't exist, any entity telling you otherwise is lying, prophets are a mortal thing, and the only way you'll ever be able to rain fire and brimstone down on your enemies is if you reach Core Formation or volunteer for Elder Detasia's experiments.

7. All non mundane acorns are to be handed over to the Magic Oak Sect Representative at the entrance. They will fairly compensate you. This is their only purpose for being here. The last time someone didn't turn over an acorn to them, they nearly caused an accidental genocide (don't ask).

8. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for government, and you aren't the long lost heir to whatever the fuck a 'Camelot' is.

9. If you ever meet a blonde muscled bastard with an over the top outfit and bullshit time powers, get the fuck away. Di Oh of the Heavenly Time Shatter Sect is not to be fucked with.

10. If I ever hear about any one of you trying to mess with the frogs in Qigai, I will report you to the elders. The elders will then report this to Manuel Konstantinos himself. The Archegetes will then bitchslap you so hard your component atoms fly apart, causing you to collapse in a heap of dust and stupidity. There are ancient pacts in play and we're better off not knowing about them.

11. Conversely, if any of the frogs try to fuck with you, punt that little shit into the stratosphere. While you're waiting for it to fall back down, find the biggest, fattest, most pompous frog you can, tell it about the indignity done to you, then vacate the area before you find out what happens next.

12. The twilight of regret is not alcohol or a hallucinogen, and ingesting it will turn you into an immortal, indestructible, brain dead corpse.

13. Avoid the ostriches. If you don't know what I mean by this, good, you've been spared. If you ever find a situation where this advice is useful, run.

14. Dance battles are to be confined to the appropriate arenas so that we can take bets. Rap battles are to be held far away from said arenas so that nobody gets hurt. Pose-offs are forbidden unless you're working under Fexiang rules, and even then you have to find an impartial judge.

15. Do not proposition the spirit proctor of an ancient legacy. Failing will result in certain death at the hands of said proctor. If you do try however, and you succeed, we will buy your drinks for a year.

16. All spirit beasts without proper documentation will be killed on sight the moment you leave Qigai. You may file said documentation at the provided registration services inside the secret realm.

17. Don't try to emulate people like Rina Callista, Aretaphila Myia, Tasos Basilakos, or other such lucky Sons/Daughters-of-Bitches*. It never ends well and almost always results in death.
*(For legal reasons this is a metaphor for bastards and is in no way an invitation for the aforementioned lucky bastards to team up and kick my ass for saying bad things about their parents.)

18. Don't use the Qigai secret realm as a convenient excuse to murder your rivals. Challenge them to life-or-death duels in public instead. Unless they're golden devils in which case unsanctioned murder is wrong.

19. If you eat the spirally fruit from one of the Qigai trees, whatever painful and horrific consequences that occur are entirely your own fault.

20. Jiang Feng owes me twenty spirit stones. Jiang Feng owes my friends twenty spirit stones. Jiang Feng owes everybody twenty spirit stones. You will never meet Jiang Feng, but eventually he will owe you twenty spirit stones.

21. There is no reason to ever fist fight a bear, and anyone found doing this will be punished. You aren't allowed to fight a bear without your fists either. Even if you know you're going to win. Nobody wins against the bear. Despite all this, you'll almost certainly fight the bear and lose. When you do, I will send over one of my snakes with a jade slip that contains a recording of me laughing in your face.

22. The rules that prevent you from fraternizing with the remnants of the Battle Blood Cannibal Sect or the members of the Seven Divine Saber Palace don't apply in the Qigai Secret Realm, so go nuts. They do still apply to the Jingshen Clan however. Normally I'd say that's because fuck the Jingshen, but that's the exact opposite of what I want here.

23. Riots are generally discouraged unless you have written permission from two elders and one Qigai clan representative. On the other hand, if you're starting a riot, why do you care about rules. Have fun, go for it, and bring me back a recording.

24. While technically the clan laws allow murder, arson, and thievery within the Qigai Secret Realm, anybody stupid enough to commit these crimes against a clan member, or get caught doing it to a non-clan member of a group we're allied with, will be thrown to the wolves. Literally. There will be canine spirit beasts that will tear you apart.

25. Good luck, have fun, and if you don't have a new entry to add to this list, consider your trip a failure.

An unknown hand has written the following note: Princey wrote this entire thing while somehow (despite being immune to poison) piss-drunk. As such, please ignore the more callous portions of this list. Despite all that, however, the advice is actually useful, so we let him put it up to the board.



While the advice was decidedly a mixed and sometimes contradictory bag, it did allow Gaius to correct some errors he had made and prepare even more thoroughly than before. His finalized, perfected list written, The Seeker began gathering everything needed for his trip next month.

-2x Dimensional Storage Pouch, rated for 50x compression
-2x Standard issue xiphos sword
-2x Standard issue legion combat knife
-5x Bar of Toxin Destroying Genocide Soap
-2x Set of reinforced Bronze Auroch leather armor
-2x Long leather coat
-1x Whetstone
-120x tins of standard Legionnaire rations.
-30x Refreshing Hydration Pill
-20x Qi Replenishment Pill
-10x Blood Replenishment Pill
-1x Guiding Magnesis Rod
-1x Small bag of iron sand
-4x Qi Extracting Needle
-10x Qi Reading Paper
-1x Mortar and pestle
-1x Leather repair kit.
-3x Ultra-Compressed Miracle Tent
-1x Note reminding me to not trust Jiang Feng
-20x Blank jade slips

Yeah, that looked pretty good. Enough to eliminate... maybe 25% of the uncertainty. He couldn't do anything to determine where the treasures would be, and while he could avoid the most obvious dangers, he wouldn't be able to know exactly where the most lucrative opportunities were. Gaius clicked his tongue at that. "Shit, it really is luck, then. Damn it..."

Oh well. The Seeker resolved to put such thoughts out of his mind; he couldn't control his own luck, all he could do is walk the path, accept what life threw at him and endure it.

Here's another old one, finished up just in time for the end of the turn. Thanks again to Alectai and TehChron for their permission, and triple-thanks to Kaboomatic for his contribution. If parts of this seem a little sloppy, it's because i started it back before turn 9.
 
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I just reread the last update and I noticed that Altar Lord doesn't actually predict his odds of success even with the Golden Devils. All he says is a chance which can mean anything from even odds to a fool's gamble. A second consideration is that this smacks of a compromising spiral that might leave any victors Golden Devil in name only. Allying with the Blood Path does not allow for half-measures. Altar Lord is committed utterly and his means are violent and monstrous. Any setbacks or complications will require that we double down on the alliance. Forget morality, allying with Blood Path would require suppressing our vassals who would understandably be concerned of being converted into larders for consumption. Heck, some of our own forces are not going to be happy with this. Heaven already has an in to torment us via the Trials and it can lean into its advantage.
 
I mean, personally, the whole background of the clan being stubborn assholes who'd rather face the world alone than compromise their morals was what brought me into the quest.

Past decisions like helping Old Cannibal maintaining the Status Quo or collaborating with the Righteous Sect to fight the rampage of the Blood Path can be justified as "doing no harm". It would have been better to eliminate Old Cannibal and pretty much all other sects and clans immediately, but such a thing just wasn't possible.

There is a huge difference between not acting to redress evil and actively help it prevail over a less bad option. Our ancestors wouldn't have tolerated either options but I can accept not acting to redress evil immediately as if not palatable, possible to live with.

Helping the blood path slaughter mortals IS bowing down to the way of the world. If our ancestors would have used such methods the clan would be much more powerful than it is today but would have no meaning. By allying with the blood path we are spitting in the face of all our ancestors who were ready to die and see the clan crumble rather than compromise and we become just another Demonic Path clan. One with a glorious heritage, an heritage they turn away from.

I'd rather the clan be destroyed and the quest ended than helping a faction that is actively murdering billions.
 
Heh. You know, at least now we have context for why the Altar Lord said "You know, if you were a self-serving asshole, I might have just killed you anyway despite myself?" in the first meeting. It's because dealing with such people is his whole day and life.

Granted, he wouldn't have to deal with bloodthirsty assholes if it weren't for the nature of the Blood Path and the kind of people it raises, but... 'what choice do I have?', is probably how he feels like.
 
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