Hereafter [Worm x Fate/Grand Order]
- Thread starter James D. Fawkes
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Well given its a personal skill and not a Noble Phantasm making it formal and simple would be easier for a Master to remember them I think is the idea.
Also my deep condolences on your Gram, I've been in your shoes on that and that's painful to happen...
Also these are a bit jarring, Medusa and Cu has purple and blue hair respectively and one of the reasons if I remember correctly is due to inhuman traits manifesting if they have non-human blood on their genepool or got modified by some weird ass phenomena or magecraft.
What's with the spoke? Here and the subsequent reference of it on Mash's shield? I think its a spike is what your meaning in this but not sure given I'm a bit sleepy to check the source materials.
Anyways found TYPO's @James D. Fawkes
James D. Fawkes
Court Scribe
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Hey, look at that!
So I bit the bullet and released Fate/Recursive Wisdom, too. Just like this story, the first three chapters were all posted at once.
So I bit the bullet and released Fate/Recursive Wisdom, too. Just like this story, the first three chapters were all posted at once.
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- He/Him
Huh, well that contract with Taylor and Caster was definitely quite the surprise. I would have thought that Cu would go for the other two, but it seems like he was drawn to Taylor due to some unclear reason. Although it might just be due to her high master-affinity.
Overall, this chapter was a blast to read, and the fight scenes in the update were quite amazing as well.
Also, thanks for the amazing update as always and keep up the good work! I can't wait to see what you have in store for us in the next one.
Overall, this chapter was a blast to read, and the fight scenes in the update were quite amazing as well.
Also, thanks for the amazing update as always and keep up the good work! I can't wait to see what you have in store for us in the next one.
Or his habit of getting attracted to strong independent women, I bet its around second day or third day after the First Order cu will try to get on her pants and all that jazz.
James D. Fawkes
Court Scribe
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- Avalon (Isle of Mists)
"You're my kind of woman!" might have been said once or twice in the next several chapters.
Lord_Anthrax
Daemon Prince of Nurgle
When Taylor and scathach
Cu: I'm scared
Both: you should be
Cu: I need an adult
Medb:I'm an adult
Mash:throws cheese at medb in shock
Windborne
Devourer of Stories
- Location
- Oregon
Pretty much this. There's a reason his summoners are generally strong independent women (Prototype, Extra, Stay Night). The only one who's an exception is the male version of Ritsuka, which is balanced against his female counterpart.
Axel
Tenno Wax
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- Italy
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- He
Yeah, i am aware, he implies something similar in strange/fake, still it does not exclude my theory. You do not have to stop existing to not observe something.
Think of it like this: Do you know how many steps there are in the main staircase in your school/workplace (i suppose there are, otherwise dunno, think another building)? I don't think so. You know they are here, and with a few logic steps how many there might be, but not how many there are for certain until you go there and count them.
So he can exist in a timeline, he merely does to have to interfere or look too throughly as that would grant them more legitimacy.
As for the infinite part i am aware, but it is easier and more concise than to say 'an extremely big number that we however do not know'
Still, please lets stop, we are derailing i think
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Prester Fred
The Mad Procrastinator
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Coming from Cu, "Princess" is probably a term of deep respect. A princess, after all , is nearly a queen. And in Cu's culture, queens were seriously badass.
I thought the Princess nickname was a @RavensDagger reference...
Hope Aife get summoned by Taylor
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Cu is very, very far from dumb, but Taylor is really, really overestimating how much she needs to be wary of the complexity of his thought process. Totally understandable, Caster and all, but still...it's funny.
Sakuya's Butler
A refined Butler to a knife wielding Mistress.
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"Well excuuuuuse me, Princess...."
Come on, I know at least one of you was thinking it.
Windborne
Devourer of Stories
- Location
- Oregon
I'd rather she not. First, and no offense to @James D. Fawkes, but he'd need to completely create her own character and personality, which isn't easy. He got away with it in Essence because she never was more than a set of tools Taylor used, most of the time offscreen at that, so he only had to create potential Noble Phantasms from her mythology. There was no personality shown, not even as bleed through into Taylor. He's got a big cast of fully fleshed out characters to choose from with Canon Servants that have set dispositions, likes and dislikes, quirks and foibles he can use.
Second, there are better Servants for her thematically. I've even gone at length to suggest one, look at my previous posts in this thread it's got a quote from the Essence thread on my suggestion. But Aife as a character, at least from mythology has very little in common with Taylor. The closest matching attribute they have is that Aife trained Setanta for a bit while Taylor trained Theo to take on Jack Slash. Not really much for them to connect on, let alone be the "Best Suited for Taylor".
I'd love to see an interlude later on during one of the free weeks where the Twins upon learning that Taylor has never seen Star Wars decides to binge watch with her and everyone else in Chaldea the original trilogy to "Educate their Senpai".
It'd be hilarious to see Taylor watch that and than throw her hands into the air when Mysterious Heroine X shows months afterwards, all while bemoaning the blatant copyright infringement.
James D. Fawkes
Court Scribe
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- Avalon (Isle of Mists)
I'd like to use Aífe again, but I have no plans for that to be in this story, no. Aífe doesn't have much in common with Taylor at all; their connections are tenuous at the very best.
I think I've made up my mind on who will be Taylor's main Servant. The editors and I talked about it and came to a tentative agreement.
Taylor has totally seen star wars. There is even a part early on in worm where she and the undersiders watch the aleph version of the prequels and she concludes that both kind of suck.
Windborne
Devourer of Stories
- Location
- Oregon
Sounds great and I'm looking forward to seeing who you've picked.
Really? Huh I thought that wasn't a thing, since the first movie was released relatively soon before Scion appeared. Still take any popular post 1982 franchise and the idea would still work. I'd love her reaction to say the MCU.
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The MCU is more direct superhero stuff. I would be surprised if Bett had a version, though Aleph certainly did.
Windborne
Devourer of Stories
- Location
- Oregon
I'd actually be surprised if Aleph had it if Bet didn't have it. The two were connected even if limitedly. Enough to allow them to transfer information and small goods at least. Aleph had to know about the Parahumans on Bet, and it would have had just as deleterious an Effect on pop culture on Aleph as it did on Bet. But that's going a bit off topic.
MetaChthonia
Disco Inferno: ⌈I Learn Through Suffering⌋
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- Somewhere, Elsewhere, Nowhere. Maybe. Probably.
So it clearly isn't something to do with Taylor herself* or the Ring of Deterrence**. So it would have to be the Summoning System spell programming itself.
Hypothesis: Contessa really did kill Taylor. Then used Magic to bring her back by shoving her soul back into her into her own body before dumping her off onto the less maniacal version of Cauldron and that's why the Summoning from the Ring of Deterrence failed: because that's a Servant being Summoned by what is being misregistered as a Servant and she is currently involved in a different "Summoning System" from Chaldea's. Programming parallel processing error. She used a back door bridge by using User controls to bypass a Summoning System and accessed the Archive for "Cu Caster- Fuyuki Singularity" directly.
Unless it gets worse I'm ruling this one out but it remains an option:
Alternatively Narrative Causality is giving a glorified Background Character Joker tier Plot Armour and she accidentally found a way around the Plot's attempt to Rail Road the original Story through since it sounded like in the early Chapters like the Characters were reading off a script that they were needing to add Taylor to and the Summoning was because the Ring of Deterrence saw that it was the Background Character who was supposed to be a statistic and not the twins at the last second so it force failed the Summon and the Plot Rail Roaded the next Station of Canon due to technically succeeding at this one. So these are the Narrative Causality given Command Seals rather then the Chaldea ones.
Another Hypothesis: because of the way a Multiverse works in the Nasuverse the Entities use Magic and Contessa hijacked the Queen Administer Shard to do... something that revived or healed Taylor... alternatively it's that she Triggered at all and because she isn't explicitly human by Magic's definition now that caused a User self contradiction Error in the Summoning System when registering Master/Servant binding Seals and to avoid a Logic Loop the Summoning System cancels the Summoning Routine. Because Singularity Servants are pre-Summoned she effectively can add them onto her... stuff... thing... the alternative is Goatia did something to Chaldea to deny Team A any Servants in the unlikelihood of survivors.
So my Four Hypotheses:
1: Plot is fighting with Narrative Causality and Taylor isn't supposed to have a Personality or Autonomy as a Background Character.
2: Entities fk'ing with Metaphysics due to encountering Worlds where the Defenses target them if they don't redesignate their Hosts as simultaneously not and as "Host Species" and "Alien Species". Oddly enough this means Taylor can kill most of the Beasts by punching them (ignoring how their other defenses would counter this) repeatedly in the face due to Authority of the Beast being given a Logic Loop Error every single solitary time she touches the thing.
3: Contessa is doing Voodoo for fun and profit and the World doesn't know how to feel about that.
4: Goatia is a fan of the "To Be Taylor is To Suffering" Meme.
*since she got Command Seals.
**since not being able to Summon yourself is stupidest thing anyone could come up with and even if it was true it still would have chosen a second closest Servant especially since a Catalyst-less Summoning is essentially throwing a net out into the Ring of Deterrence and hoping to either catch something or have a Spirit answer.
Unless it gets worse I'm ruling this one out but it remains an option:
Alternatively Narrative Causality is giving a glorified Background Character Joker tier Plot Armour and she accidentally found a way around the Plot's attempt to Rail Road the original Story through since it sounded like in the early Chapters like the Characters were reading off a script that they were needing to add Taylor to and the Summoning was because the Ring of Deterrence saw that it was the Background Character who was supposed to be a statistic and not the twins at the last second so it force failed the Summon and the Plot Rail Roaded the next Station of Canon due to technically succeeding at this one. So these are the Narrative Causality given Command Seals rather then the Chaldea ones.
Another Hypothesis: because of the way a Multiverse works in the Nasuverse the Entities use Magic and Contessa hijacked the Queen Administer Shard to do... something that revived or healed Taylor... alternatively it's that she Triggered at all and because she isn't explicitly human by Magic's definition now that caused a User self contradiction Error in the Summoning System when registering Master/Servant binding Seals and to avoid a Logic Loop the Summoning System cancels the Summoning Routine. Because Singularity Servants are pre-Summoned she effectively can add them onto her... stuff... thing... the alternative is Goatia did something to Chaldea to deny Team A any Servants in the unlikelihood of survivors.
So my Four Hypotheses:
1: Plot is fighting with Narrative Causality and Taylor isn't supposed to have a Personality or Autonomy as a Background Character.
2: Entities fk'ing with Metaphysics due to encountering Worlds where the Defenses target them if they don't redesignate their Hosts as simultaneously not and as "Host Species" and "Alien Species". Oddly enough this means Taylor can kill most of the Beasts by punching them (ignoring how their other defenses would counter this) repeatedly in the face due to Authority of the Beast being given a Logic Loop Error every single solitary time she touches the thing.
3: Contessa is doing Voodoo for fun and profit and the World doesn't know how to feel about that.
4: Goatia is a fan of the "To Be Taylor is To Suffering" Meme.
*since she got Command Seals.
**since not being able to Summon yourself is stupidest thing anyone could come up with and even if it was true it still would have chosen a second closest Servant especially since a Catalyst-less Summoning is essentially throwing a net out into the Ring of Deterrence and hoping to either catch something or have a Spirit answer.
I don't see why it would, it's essentially two different instances of subtly different programs running. Document 12 in Program F isn't Document 12 in Program C even if they can access the Docu 3 version of Docu 12 Prog-F in the Archive.
hm... figured.
Must be the link to the Fuyuki Singularity via Caster. If it really is this Singularity's Grail War then I do wonder how many Singularities she will have to go through before her entire arm is just one long reddish sleeve from all the Command Seals overlapping.
Shillelagh. It's an Irish weapon that's basically a "great club" as it would be known in DnD. Druids used them as walking sticks. Also in DnD there is a Druid Spell of the same name which literally is just "hit thing hard". They can also come in mace variants.
I still have no clue why the Grail decided to Summon the Comicon Cosplay version of Medusa. There's no reason for her to be Ruby Rose but whatever. At least her being a Rider made sense from a certain perspective given in the Real World Myth she was supposed to be the mother of Pegasus. From what I can vaguely remember there is no mention of a spear or scythe or even a sickle in the Nasuverse version unless this one got twisted by the Grail into a version that stole Chronos' scythe/sickle.
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James D. Fawkes
Court Scribe
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There's a lot in there that I'm not even going to try and unpack, right now, but this, at least, I can answer. Lancer Medusa - adult form like here or child form like in the Babylonia Singularity - carries the scythe that killed her, Harpe.
Also, canonically, Pegasus was apparently a gift from Poseidon, rather than a magical beast that sprang from her severed neck. I think that's because that's the older form of the myth, and thus as far as Nasu is concerned, the original version?
Owleero
(Verified Tree)
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- Massachusetts
Gorgon's Bond CE mentions Pegasus coming from her corpse along with Chrysaor, I think she ate Pegasus along with her sisters when she became Gorgon. Thus, both interpretations of the myth are true.
Windborne
Devourer of Stories
- Location
- Oregon
That was my interpretation of it as well. Both are accurate interpretations that are true and must be combined to bring out their full potential, since she has the actual physical bridle and whip to use on the Pegasus, or any other creature, it'd let her tame a Dragon or Divine Beast, and enhances all of its capabilities by one rank; and to summon the Pegasus she needs to perform a small ritual symbolizing it coming from her corpse which is the cutting her own neck part.
As for your hypotheses @MetaChthonia, those are possibilities, but I think you're forgetting the possibility that she's just not able to summon through Chaldea's system at the moment because she isn't Mash's Master. Mash and her shield are integral parts of the entire system Chaldea uses for summoning Servants, but because Taylor has no link to her at the moment she is unable to summon through her.
Of course I think the only ones who knew the specifics of the system were Marisbury and Lev, the former is dead and the latter is a traitor who would definitely deliberately withhold the information as an extra form of insurance so that his plan will work. So everyone else being clueless as to the specifics at the moment is completely understandable.
But those are just my thoughts on the matter.
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