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Hereafter [Worm x Fate/Grand Order]

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James D. Fawkes said:
Ahem. Anyway. The one I eventually decided on was technically outside the age range I was looking for, because the earliest records of inhabitance were from 1476. I fudged it under the logic of, "Well, it wasn't built in a day, was it?" I just decided to assume it was older than that record and could feasibly have been in use in 1431.
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Eh, time gets wonky in Singularities. This wouldn't even be the strangest anachronism in FGO.

Better yet, that detail was thought up in order to justify exactly the this sort of thing.
 
People who die in Singularities stay dead when the Singularity is resolved, even if they would originally have survived that time period. The circumstances of their deaths are rewritten to fit the proper course of events, such as a wyvern victim being the victim of a wild animal instead. The only exception is when the circumstances of their deaths are utterly irreconcilable with Proper History, such as the victims of the Lion King in the Sixth Singularity and the victims of Tiamat and her Lahmu in the Seventh Singularity. Those get brought back to life when the Singularity is resolved; they retroactively never died.

On the other hand, people saved within a Singularity remain alive when the Singularity is resolved, even if they were supposed to have died in that time period. The circumstances that would have lead to their deaths in Proper History are rewritten to allow for their survival. This is evident in the Fate/Accel Zero Order event, where Kayneth and Sola-ui depart Fuyuki alive and well, they remain alive in that other timeline when the Singularity is resolved.
 
James D. Fawkes said:
"Originally, I was tasked merely with observing your path forward," she announced in a strong, clear voice. "However, the Servant you're searching for here in Lyon is the greatest threat to my Master in this era, and as her Servant, I should absolutely prevent you from reaching him."

She brandished her staff.

"And as a servant of Our Lord, I must also do whatever I can to aid you, so long as even a fraction of my sanity remains. That's why…if you cannot make it past this Saint Martha, then you have no hope of facing my Master and her personal mount!"
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I wonder if its possible to sever her connection to Jeanne Alter?
 
If Taylor only has access to flies as flying insects, she really can't help in the fighting.
But she could probably use a swarm clone as a mouthpiece to advise the twins and keep watch over the battle.
 
So, this is Sigurd right?

Because, if so, yes!

After Projection Quest, I'm definitely in the mood for more Taylor and Sigurd interacting. Heh.
 
captain_belgica said:
Isn't Sigurd the one that acts like a dad?
What's Siegfried like?
And which one is stronger of the two?
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Siegfried is more like shirou emiya than anyone else i feel as a person, his whole thing is just doing stuff to help cause people asked him to, like it's a whole plot point in fate apocrypha that he finally wants to make a choice of his own to be heroic. And on who's stronger? Well balmung and gram are probably pretty even but the way they're used is different, siegfried does aoe blasts, sigurd just uses his sword to focus all that energy into a single spot, punches his sword into something or someone and then unleashes the aoe blast. Sigurd has primordial runes, which can do some bs shit, but siegfried is basically indestructible except for a small part of his back. Arguably, that indestructibility would win him this, but then, sigurd has a rune specifically for inducing death which i'm not sure siegfrieds protections can stop. Sigurd also has a pair of glasses that allow him to scan what he's looking at, gain a bunch of knowledge with the wisdom of fafnir. It's honestly about even i think, they both have methods of beating the other and the main difference really just how they fight.
 
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Incidentally, Siegfried met Altera once when they were both alive. Later on, his widow Kriemhild ended up marrying Altera. Something to keep in mind for Septem.
 
Finagle007 said:
People who die in Singularities stay dead when the Singularity is resolved, even if they would originally have survived that time period. The circumstances of their deaths are rewritten to fit the proper course of events, such as a wyvern victim being the victim of a wild animal instead. The only exception is when the circumstances of their deaths are utterly irreconcilable with Proper History, such as the victims of the Lion King in the Sixth Singularity and the victims of Tiamat and her Lahmu in the Seventh Singularity. Those get brought back to life when the Singularity is resolved; they retroactively never died.

On the other hand, people saved within a Singularity remain alive when the Singularity is resolved, even if they were supposed to have died in that time period. The circumstances that would have lead to their deaths in Proper History are rewritten to allow for their survival. This is evident in the Fate/Accel Zero Order event, where Kayneth and Sola-ui depart Fuyuki alive and well, they remain alive in that other timeline when the Singularity is resolved.
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That's one of those things that seems fuzzy to me, like if the Founding Fathers all died at once then history would be fucked whether or not Medb was involved, so I'm pretty sure there's some creative accounting involved in tallying things up.
 
Finagle007 said:
The only exception is when the circumstances of their deaths are utterly irreconcilable with Proper History, such as the victims of the Lion King in the Sixth Singularity and the victims of Tiamat and her Lahmu in the Seventh Singularity. Those get brought back to life when the Singularity is resolved; they retroactively never died.
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That actually still isn't true, everyone who died to those causes still died. Siduri is dead as fuck for example. Gilgamesh only saw something like 6 people surviving the clusterfuck that is the Bablyonia Singularity, Chaldea changed that number to something like 38. Which is still incredibly low, but it was a very large victory to even him, and that's saying something. Regardless those people still stay dead, at least according to Gilgamesh and he's an authority on the matter.

TheFinalWraith said:
That's one of those things that seems fuzzy to me, like if the Founding Fathers all died at once then history would be fucked whether or not Medb was involved, so I'm pretty sure there's some creative accounting involved in tallying things up.
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No the founding fathers still died, but the ones we know as the US founding fathers are not the ones who died in the Singularity prior to Chaldea's arrival. Time fuckery is a tricky thing. It's best not to think too hard on it.
 
Still in general this is a really well-written chapter, but while I recognize that the setting is very grim I kind of hope that things are going to grow beyond Taylor just reminding the twins how fucked everything is and how little they can do about it. Hopefully Siegfried might be able to add some much needed hope to the proceedings. ...Though I'm taking it as a bad sign that Marie Antoinette and Mozart missed their cue to show up and lend assistance.
 
I kinda hope Marie and Mozart turn up soonish. I rather liked their interactions in the original story. I also look forward to the twins starting to take more initiative of their own. This post GM Taylor has quite a strong personality that is certainly useful in difficult situations like this but i feel may be be a detriment in the long term. Especially in more diplomatic situations.
 
Windborne said:
That actually still isn't true, everyone who died to those causes still died. Siduri is dead as fuck for example. Gilgamesh only saw something like 6 people surviving the clusterfuck that is the Bablyonia Singularity, Chaldea changed that number to something like 38. Which is still incredibly low, but it was a very large victory to even him, and that's saying something. Regardless those people still stay dead, at least according to Gilgamesh and he's an authority on the matter.
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Nope to both. Gilgamesh foresaw that every last one of his citizens would die; Chaldea's efforts saved 500, which is why he handed over the Great Grail of Uruk as a reward. And the people killed by or turned into Lahmu were restored to normal when the Singularity was resolved; Ibaraki's interlude - which takes place after Babylonia - confirms that Siduri is alive and well afterwards.
 
Finagle007 said:
Nope to both. Gilgamesh foresaw that every last one of his citizens would die; Chaldea's efforts saved 500, which is why he handed over the Great Grail of Uruk as a reward. And the people killed by or turned into Lahmu were restored to normal when the Singularity was resolved; Ibaraki's interlude - which takes place after Babylonia - confirms that Siduri is alive and well afterwards.
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Didn't know that since I sadly don't have the banana loli, but fair enough. I was under the impression it was less but that's the total, the number thirty was surviving soldiers who made it past the northern wall. Meh either way pitifully low numbers. The grail was Gilgamesh's giving us a souvenir according to the transcripted parts I read.
 
Windborne said:
Didn't know that since I sadly don't have the banana loli, but fair enough. I was under the impression it was less but that's the total, the number thirty was surviving soldiers who made it past the northern wall. Meh either way pitifully low numbers. The grail was Gilgamesh's giving us a souvenir according to the transcripted parts I read.
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The souvenir was actually the beer in the Grail. When Mash protested about being underage, Gil drank the beer himself and tossed them the Grail anyway, much to Ishtar's shock.

 
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