Hereafter [Worm x Fate/Grand Order]

Did Solomon open this can of worms on purpose? Just so everybody would ignore the other can of worms Andersen was hinting at?
Because it seems to have worked. Everybody is concentrating on Taylor instead of him.

Romani and Da Vinci got told the full deal, and well she is really smart. She will figure something out. Also she was listening in so...
 
"Really?" Bradamante blurted out, and then she backtracked. "I-I mean, not that it's nothing, Master! It's certainly an impressive accomplishment, especially for someone from the modern day! B-but I suppose it's…not what I was expecting."

If she thought being party to killing a god wasn't impressive enough, then I had no idea what she'd been thinking I was going to admit to. Would a whole pantheon have sounded better to her? Beating Thor in arm-wrestling or shoving Zeus's lightning bolt up his ass?
Can i just say i laughed rereading this part?
 
And if they know, then the Association can find it out from them, one way or the other.
...
Better to try and keep the sensitive stuff under wraps.
Why info for the twins\Mash is limited is clear. But why Taylor hides it from majority of Servants? Clock Tower will not interrogate Servants. And clearly, while twins\Mash can live with understanding that they little guys, all larger than life figures are not.
 
Did Solomon open this can of worms on purpose? Just so everybody would ignore the other can of worms Andersen was hinting at?
Because it seems to have worked. Everybody is concentrating on Taylor instead of him.
Possibly. But...he's also being entirely genuine.

For Goetia's actual plan, he does need for there still to be a Humanity to incinerate. And the justification for his plan and existence necessarily requires a Humanity to Pity.

The fact that throwing that kind of gratitude in her face also trips up their planning doesn't stop it from being true.
 
Why info for the twins\Mash is limited is clear. But why Taylor hides it from majority of Servants? Clock Tower will not interrogate Servants. And clearly, while twins\Mash can live with understanding that they little guys, all larger than life figures are not.

Dream Cycle, have a Servant long enough and you share dreams and knowledge while you sleep.
 
the only thing i think could've been added is that she mentioned scions mate wasn't 'awakened' like him, and had died at some point, and thus him now having human form led to him having human emotion, and not knowing how to deal with it like we learn growing up, allowing her to bully him with his mate's visage, illusions, golems, transmutation, shapeshifters that look like her etc. all to torment him into just giving in, and allowing them to take him out. basically, I want them to know she bullied a god to death.
P.S. Does anyone remember WOG about the fact that to create a cycle for a galaxy-spanning civilization, 10+ Entities are needed? Because I lost it and can't find it now.
I do remember it, but if I recall it was an entity pr planet or system or something like that, so for multi-system species they'd call in others, don't think the wog ever got into it regarding galaxy-sized civilizations
 
Jalter has Taylor's number so badly. Also EMIYA you hypocrite. Looking forward to the next singularity, Saber Alter Christmas next... Just in time for Mordred to show up, I wonder if will go with the standard event or go with an original event.
Emiya/Taylor: So, after saving everyone they executed me. I was too dangerous to be left as I was.

"And then you killed him," said Ritsuka, like he'd seen it coming.

I wasn't sure that I had. At that point, it might have been an act of patricide more than anything else.

"Not myself," I said instead. "The best you could say was that I gave the order that landed the final blow. At the end of the day, I was just the person in charge of the group that managed to do it."
And then I suddenly realized what the ultimate form of Last Resort is.

It has to be used after everyone, including Taylor herself was dead or functionally so.

The final deathblow was with the Sting hyperdimensional cannon, and Khepri was too far gone to activate it anymore.
 
And then I suddenly realized what the ultimate form of Last Resort is.

It has to be used after everyone, including Taylor herself was dead or functionally so.

The final deathblow was with the Sting hyperdimensional cannon, and Khepri was too far gone to activate it anymore.

The character quest that explains why Taylor's NP is upgraded three ranks up from a very sharp knife to a wavebeam railgun that punches through dimensions is gonna be a doozy.
 
I just cannot imagine Shakespeare passing up the opportunity to listen to her story. It's too easy for him to lurk in spirit form to not even try. "Okay, everybody out but you two leave so we can talk more in secret" just sounds like catnip from what I've seen of him.

I know little about Fate so I can't say if he can be sensed by others or if Arash or Jackie would be able to stay there to prevent invisible snoops and protect Taylor.
 
I just cannot imagine Shakespeare passing up the opportunity to listen to her story. It's too easy for him to lurk in spirit form to not even try. "Okay, everybody out but you two leave so we can talk more in secret" just sounds like catnip from what I've seen of him.

I know little about Fate so I can't say if he can be sensed by others or if Arash or Jackie would be able to stay there to prevent invisible snoops and protect Taylor.

Other than Assassins using their class skill Servants can be sensed by other servants even in spirit form so Da Vinci would have sensed him
 
The character quest that explains why Taylor's NP is upgraded three ranks up from a very sharp knife to a wavebeam railgun that punches through dimensions is gonna be a doozy.
The thing is, it only works AFTER she is incapacitated(which fits, because thats how she killed Alexandria too), along with most of her team and her subordinates take up the fallen weapon to take the shot she fell creating the opportunity for...
 
And then I suddenly realized what the ultimate form of Last Resort is.

It has to be used after everyone, including Taylor herself was dead or functionally so.

The final deathblow was with the Sting hyperdimensional cannon, and Khepri was too far gone to activate it anymore.
While it's a cool image, I don't think that's true? It's not entirely clear whether she was controlling Defiant when he pulled the trigger (though I'd bet she was), but she was the one aiming the gun by providing and swapping out portals. She only fully lost it after Scion died.
 
"Wait a minute," said Da Vinci, "you don't mean that metaphorically, do you? You're talking about an actual, honest-to-goodness god, in the flesh!"

Marie glared her way and looked ready to offer some choice words for the interruption, but I just went with it.

"Or close enough that the distinction didn't matter,"

i like this specification
because yes, WE know that Scion wasn't a god, and Taylor more or less knows he wasn't actually Divine (through her experience at Chaldea if nothing else) but at that power level and/or without the ability to see into an even greater scope
...the details don't really matter that much.
Scion wasn't a god? Didn't make that much practical difference in trying to stop him

"No. This and that were two separate things."

Awkward as it is this is actually kind of funny
'oh yeah, i fought god, but that disaster i dealt with was a different matter entirely'
like, it's not That much in the way of news, but it kind of solidifies that the big fight that ended up with her in Chaldea wasn't a one-off, Taylor was dealing with zany nonsense on the regular before that


That…that one, I didn't have a good answer for. Strictly speaking, I hadn't been conscious for any of it, but Marie had told me enough — and I could have guessed the rest on my own — to have a decent picture of what happened.

now i'm actually kind of surprised she didn't just come out and say this. like, it was gonna have to come down to Marie anyway, and unsatisfying as it was it also doesn't lose her anything to say, 'i don't know; i was unconscious at the time. one moment i was in the fight, the next i was waking up in Chaldea's med bay. i could make guesses, but that's all they would be'


I think going at the reveal so vaguely and half-assed is gonna bite them in the ass later. At least they told Da Vinci and Romani everything.

Admittedly? probably
but at the very least it provides some gravity of the setup they're looking at, iterates why it was highly classified- and still is- and keeping it vague allows them to expand on it as time goes on
still not a great option, but it keeps other options open


Ngl, I'm dissapoint.

Don't get me wrong, it's completely expected, and entirely valid, because Association will interrogate them by the end of it, or at least try.

honestly same
like, it was probably unrealistic for Taylor to actually give them her detailed life story, and the lecture setup i was vaguely hoping for was probably also a bit pie in the sky, but it was still incredbily barebones and didn't really answer anyone's hard questions
though to be fair-

Even still, it didn't come out quite as well as I wanted it to, but this isn't the end of it either, so I suppose it evens out.

-seems the author agrees, and there is still more exposition on the horizon
if this is the start, and they'll have to start providing more answers as time goes on (presumably in the American Singularity) then i'm willing to hold out


this is completely expected and in some ways unhelpful, but I'm still gonna joke how protective Marie is.

in its own way it's very adorable
like, Hereafter is what got me into FGO, and Marie doesn't hardly factor into it beyond the intro chapter, so there's not much in the way of her character to much care about, other than not being able to save her
but here? oh my god, all their quiet, private moments are a joy to behold and i look forward to them every time Taylor is on-base

Can i just say i laughed rereading this part?

Good to know i wasn't the only one XD
like, Bradamante, she fought a god
she's not a god herself, she's not a Hero/Heroic Spirit, she's not a magus; she is a normal-ass human from the modern era
and she still led a war against a rampaging god, led the way to VICTORY against said god, and lived to talk about it (as little as she does)
like...girl, what more do you want?!?!
 
The final deathblow was with the Sting hyperdimensional cannon, and Khepri was too far gone to activate it anymore.
sting just opened the path to his real body from his avatar, the super canon was separate from that, wasn't enhanced like the bolts usually are
While it's a cool image, I don't think that's true? It's not entirely clear whether she was controlling Defiant when he pulled the trigger (though I'd bet she was), but she was the one aiming the gun by providing and swapping out portals. She only fully lost it after Scion died.
by the time the cannon was fired doormaker had run out of power, taylor only controlled like a dozen capes at that point, but she had basically set the stage for everyone else to finish it, she'd begun making people turn into or recreate eden, she'd gathered everyone into the teams best able to help people, most importantly the tinker team, who she had the yangban cape that can share powers combine all their tinker powers and have them make a superweapon, she showed humanity that the fight could be won, scion at this point was actively showing that he was being affected, the fight wasn't futile, they could see that, and so people continued off where she was forced to drop it, and eventually scion, bullied to the point of being suicidal, allowed a sting enhanced bolt to hit him, opening the path to his true body, for defiant to pull the trigger and fire into with the super weapon.

it's kinda ironic, she was a beast candidate, but acted more like a Grand servant that way, as of yet, no Grand servant has actually 1v1'd a Beast, they've all just paved the way for humanity to do so, Grand Assassin forcing mortality on Tiamat letting chaldea and gil do their thing, Merlin guiding Chaldea remotely and even sending over fou to be won over by humanity's love, even Romulus just set up chaldea to be able to use the black barrel successfully
 
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