Hereafter [Worm x Fate/Grand Order]
- Thread starter James D. Fawkes
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- Crossover
Stahor
BookWorm
- Location
- Russia, Moscow
We're s- so very small, in the end.
Wasn't that Lisa who used Rachael's power to generate a ton of biomass for Amy to reshape into images of Eden outside of Taylor's control which she noted his reaction to and chose to use to make him hurt the only way she could when she worked out she couldn't win with force.
- Location
- Southern California
You mean Shakespeare, you magnificent bastard
Yeah…… This was probably 1 million times worse than what she thought happened
Way to go Taylor, you probably scared the shit out of THE genius
Axel
Tenno Wax
- Location
- Italy
- Pronouns
- He
Personally? I think she has slotted a few pieces together and has finally gotten the scope of 'Solomon' plan; after all he would have no need to thank Taylor if his plan involved only this earth and Taylor was from a parallel one
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- Location
- Elsewhere
"But he could have. There's nothing stopping him from saying 'Hey Emiya, thanks for being a double agent all this time. You're doing great!'"
"Servents have greater perception and insight than others, we would see through a transparent lie like that."
"No. We've repeatedly seen Servents taken in by the most baseless transparent lies from every random conman who comes along."
Lisa couldn't navigate her way out of a paper bag.
Her powers gave her insights, but her planning skills were questionable and literally everybody found her suspicious.
"It's not a matter of trust."
"It's a matter of curiosity. You can't expect us to just ignore gossip like this, can you?"
- Location
- United States
I think it's made fairly clear that Scion was going to destroy all versions of Earth, not just Bet, so it doesn't really have any implications on if Solomon's plan is local or multiversal. If Taylor lost, Solomon's plan would still be ruined even if it was just Earth FGO his plan involved. The 'oh dear' was more in response to finding out there was a world that had an Alien God who was capable of and fully willing to destroy every Earth regardless of the powers of the people on those Earths, and she wouldn't have even known about it if she wasn't told after the fact. Less 'Oh dear, what does that mean for Solomon' and more 'Oh shit we all almost died already and we didn't even notice.'
Also the implication that if there's one world where failure could have ended in the multiversal destruction of Earth, there could be others and everyone could still just randomly die because someone else fucked up in a completely different timeline.
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There is also the fact that Da Vinci is a scientists and knows that things are either unique or infinite. If there was only one Entity she could hope that it was the only one that ever existed. But there were two...
- Location
- Colorado
- Pronouns
- She/They
Or vise-versa. Scion was a rampaging Alien God that would've, eventually, swung by FGO earth and made himself a fledgling Chaldea's problem.
There is also the intimidation factor of realizing a supposed Grand Servant is thankful he didn't have to try and run up on Scion. As an audience with knowledge of "Solomon's" plan we know otherwise but knowing only what Da Vinci knows she may be having the sobering thought that one of Alaya's mightiest heroes had a smidgen of performance anxiety.
It's like a Homeland Security agent turned serial arsonist thanking your co-worker for doing them an favor and then being told that favor was preventing a nuclear war except it wasn't a war it was a fucking Alien God that was eating worlds before life evolved on Earth.
Sure, that arsonist could just be happy he still has a city to burn, but, uh, priorities
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- Location
- Dhaka, Bangladesh
The entities in nasu context are terrifying. They regularly suborn the Order of the Prime Species of the worlds they visit for their cycles (subverting Alayah). Consume planets for resources (aka they eat TYPEs/Gaia) and blow up stars as an FTL method and as a baseline exist in multiple realities simultaneously in real time. The closest is the the Harvest Star/Velber that released the White Titan and just fighting the titan nearly wiped out the Gods.
Sir_Travelsalot
Never wakes up tired.
- Location
- At Home
When did Entities blow up stars? Their method of FTL is converting their bodies into light and warping space between them and their next destination (Legend and Vista's Shards, respectively); the multiversal planetsplosion is for harvesting the energy needed for the trip and the next Cycle.
Finagle007
[Verified Great Old One]
- Pronouns
- He/Him/His
And even Velber can only affect one timeline at a time.
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- Dhaka, Bangladesh
Probably WOG somewhere. They do harvest every bit of energy they can at the end of each cycle, which presumably would include the copies of the system's star.
James D. Fawkes
Court Scribe
- Location
- Avalon (Isle of Mists)
I think that might be mixing up two different pieces of Worm lore: first, that Entities locomote primarily by blowing up the host planet at the end of the cycle, using the subsequent blast to ride through space, and the second that Endbringers and Entities have enough mass that throwing them into the sun would create an entirely different and simultaneous problem to the fact that they exist.
Although, having said that, I don't generally keep up with every WOG WB releases, so maybe I missed one, who knows?
Wasn't it said the golden man had gone to fgo earth tho they had no idea who or what he was cause that adds multiple lbs to it
deathofrats0808
Don’t think of it as dying; just as leaving early
- Location
- Earth
Pretty sure she doesn't know that, because it's just wrong. Example a, humans. There's a finite number of us, but more than one.
Morket
Ah! Ah! Ah! Toxic love!
Well, in theory, with the capabilities of the Entities, they can use stars for recharging. The only question is how rational and expedient they consider this method of recharging, since they need the explosion of the planet, first of all, not for recharging, but for collecting all the Shards and further fragmenting them for new Entities.
P.S. Does anyone remember WOG about the fact that to create a cycle for a galaxy-spanning civilization, 10+ Entities are needed? Because I lost it and can't find it now.
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There is only one humanity as far as we know. And our own numbers continue to grow.
deathofrats0808
Don’t think of it as dying; just as leaving early
- Location
- Earth
Yes, but there is a finite number of humans. And our numbers can't ever become infinite, because there's finite resources to support us. Indeed, the fact resources aren't infinite is a major reason Worm played out the way it did, as the Entities can't afford to spend the resources to just pre-cog everything. The idea that things are either unique or have an infinite number is just rubbish.
Raiseth
I Find Your Lack of Memes Disturbing
- Location
- Russia
Ngl, I'm dissapoint.
Don't get me wrong, it's completely expected, and entirely valid, because Association will interrogate them by the end of it, or at least try.
But come on! I wanna see Ritsuka freaking out about an alien invasion two universes to the left that threatened the entirely local multiversal cluster! I want Rika to proudly proclaim that their Senpai is a hardcore Sentai Ranger/Magical Girl who fistfought the golden man from beyond the stars to everyone who cares to listen ( and most everyone who doesn't )!
Mash is a cinnamon roll though.
Breaking reactions down further, Emiya is suspicious as fuck, because he knows from personal experience that saving the world is often much, much complicated than what he was told. And bloodier. I hope he reads between the lines and empathizes, but eh.
Da Vinci… I think she figured out pretty much everything, up to and including some things most other people haven't yet. Maybe unreasonable, but I kinda expect it.
Romani's reactions vaguely make me think he just knows all this stuff about Taylor already and only pretends to be shocked.
Marie! Good job!Fight for your wife! Keep up supporting your completely platonic best friend! /jk /s /no seriously, this is completely expected and in some ways unhelpful, but I'm still gonna joke how protective Marie is.
Now for the Christmas holidays… I kinda dread it. Are we gonna see some nonsense on the scale of Jeanne Alter Santa Lily? If yes, will she ever live it down, or will it be etched into her Spirit Origin until the heat death of the universe? Maybe it will be completely normal Christmas instead. lol
Don't get me wrong, it's completely expected, and entirely valid, because Association will interrogate them by the end of it, or at least try.
But come on! I wanna see Ritsuka freaking out about an alien invasion two universes to the left that threatened the entirely local multiversal cluster! I want Rika to proudly proclaim that their Senpai is a hardcore Sentai Ranger/Magical Girl who fistfought the golden man from beyond the stars to everyone who cares to listen ( and most everyone who doesn't )!
Mash is a cinnamon roll though.
Breaking reactions down further, Emiya is suspicious as fuck, because he knows from personal experience that saving the world is often much, much complicated than what he was told. And bloodier. I hope he reads between the lines and empathizes, but eh.
Da Vinci… I think she figured out pretty much everything, up to and including some things most other people haven't yet. Maybe unreasonable, but I kinda expect it.
Romani's reactions vaguely make me think he just knows all this stuff about Taylor already and only pretends to be shocked.
Marie! Good job!
Now for the Christmas holidays… I kinda dread it. Are we gonna see some nonsense on the scale of Jeanne Alter Santa Lily? If yes, will she ever live it down, or will it be etched into her Spirit Origin until the heat death of the universe? Maybe it will be completely normal Christmas instead. lol
- Location
- United States
- Pronouns
- They/Them
Yeah.... Something of that scale is beyond our dear Uomo Universale, and would honestly end up something like Olympus where it took literally everything to pull out a win.
- Location
- Somewhere between the stars
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Romani got a vauge premonition of how the future would end, Taylor got told about a prophecy of how the future would end.
Romani had no idea how the future would end, so he spends his years preparing for a doom he does not know. Taylor Herbert knows the future will end but not how, so she spends the next years of her life trying to stop it, and prevent it.
Then a God awakens and attempts to destroy the entire world.
Then a Demon God awakens and attempts to destroy the entire world.
Romani is probably the most sympathetic person in this entire room at the room, more so then even Maria, he understands fully. Taylor just described the last few years of his life after all
FunkyEntropy
Occasionally insightful, possibly grumpy
- Location
- Los Angeles
I love this exchange. It does an incredible job of showing how, for all her prestige, title, and position, Marie doesn't understand Power the way Taylor does.
That's the million dollar question.
