Not as salty as Caenis.
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Hereafter [Worm x Fate/Grand Order]
- Thread starter James D. Fawkes
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Not as salty as Caenis.
Evil Atlas
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Very nice getting to see so many servants go all-out in a single fight, and getting to see the damage they each do rather than Herakles taking a life loss but visually just shrugging them off. On top of that, Herakles dying repeatedly slowed the fight down enough that the masters also got plenty of chances to contribute strategy. And Ritsuka even took valuable initiative of his own, which is nice to see. A very satisfying combat chapter all around!
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Emiya was actually a freak off-screen. Who says the modern age can't make heroes. Clearly it can.
Yeah, the only reason Emiya didn't win the HGW is because the Grail was never his goal, but he still always did his best to set Rin up for success and put her in the best position possible. If he had actually tried to get the cup, he would have succeeded. Hell, we know that a Shirou using Emiya's Class Card soloed an entire HGW, so it stand to reason that Emiya himself is capable of it, if he actually tried.
floppy_seal99
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Thing is, Heracles wasn't in that Grail War, and neither was King Arthur. Sure, Lancelot isn't a slouch, but Emiya low key counters Knight of Owner.
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In the original UBW route, Emiya took 6 of Heracles' lives under similar conditions. With that hit being the Eighth life, I'd say odds are good that Hector just dealt the final blow.
That's not quite fair the class card format benefitted Shirou and Emiya because from what I've heard every parameter of someone using them is at least one rank lower than if the Servant was summoned properly which benefits Emiya a lot. While Shirou is probably the strongest non servant one when he did that he also was connected to Miyu who was feeding him magical energy which is how he was able to get through all 7 fights in 1 night.
He also had the advantages of higher compatibility with his card and all his opponents being the Ainsworth's dolls who are all missing something important to them. However, even with all that while Shirou trumped Gilgamesh (who was the proper official archer card of the war) in a more impressive way to UBW route because of the doll thing Angelica used the displacement magecraft to stop him hitting her and sent him away so she could use Ea which he lost to.
They actually both were and Knight of Owner actually countered Shirou with anything grabbed being taken over by Knight of Owner so Lancelot could use it and Shirou couldn't just dismiss it and had the raw stat advantage meaning they could do things like grab and seize rule breaker when it was set up to be able to get a hit in.
The differences from fsn's lineup was the Assassin card because it changes which Hassan is installed with the user and Shinji either got a different seeming Cursed Arm or a new one and Gilgamesh was the official Archer with Emiya being a fluke from Shirou being the one using the blank Archer card letting it connect to Emiya. What you may be confused about is Beatrice who is the only other one of the dolls there other than Angelica who survived because Herk took advantage of God Hand to spare but because she still lost the card she had to get a new card.
I was mostly pointing out that Emiya could, not how likely it was that he would successfully do so, but that as things stand at the beginning of the 5th FHGW, Emiya has the capability to defeat all other Servants involved, which a number of the others don't actually have. Like, Artoria, Kojiro, Medusa, Medea, and Cu Chulain probably don't actually have the ability to kill Heracles or Gilgamesh, for various reasons. Artoria mainly because she lacks Avalon and a sufficient Mana supply, but still.
Emiya might have some of the lowest stats among the Servants in the HGW, but he actually has everything he needs to win, unlike most of the others.
Emiya might have some of the lowest stats among the Servants in the HGW, but he actually has everything he needs to win, unlike most of the others.
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This was Hector coming in clutch with his sudden yet inevitable betrayal of Jason
Edit: just realized you might have been talking about amount of lives taken in the reality marble, my bad
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Well, yeah that was not enough to finish Herc.
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Ugh man I forgot how winey Jason could be. Like sure I know this is probably more for Jason telling himself that Heracles won't lose (because if not then he's absolutely fucked) and just can't face reality but still
As messed up as it sounds I can't wait to see Jason's dreams crumble before his eyes and see how he suffers a terrible fate again.
Cause apparently it takes dying a painful cruel death twice for this blonde dumbass to start learning his lesson
I'm fairly sure a part of that was having a better power source in Rin. Rika is a first generation magus, which means she simply can't supply the same amount of magical energy that Rin can.
While that doesn't preclude her from becoming a great magus, after all, power is only one component of the magi arts, it does mean she's limited in how much she can help a servant without prep time, which, due to the reactive nature of Chaldeas situation, is something she's never going to be able to get as much as she needs.
That being said, magical power only affects the amount of time UBW can remain and any active use Noble Phantasms. So maybe the reserves Rika was committing were enough.
Finagle007
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The Chaldean Masters don't supply power for their Servants, Chaldeas' magical reactors do that.
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They do channel it though, and Rika can only take so much going through her.
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Yeah unless Rika, or really any of the other Masters, have what amounts to abnormal Magic Circuits for a non-lineage born Magi, there's going to be a disadvantage to how much magical energy they can convert, store, and then supply. The only thing I beleive can be trained is the capacity one of one's circuits, as in how much magical energy can you fit inside them, and separately realizing the maximum quality of your magic circuits.
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This chapter was fun and all, seeing everyone unloading on Herk but... It's felt like all the archers and archer adjacent people they had on hand just stood around doing nothing while Herk was regenerating and Jason was vulnerable. The only defence he had was Medea, and we've seen in this chapter slime that her shields aren't all that.
I would have thought that between Arash, Orion, Atalanta, Morgan and Drake they could have put down some absolutely withering fire. Was there something I missed?
I would have thought that between Arash, Orion, Atalanta, Morgan and Drake they could have put down some absolutely withering fire. Was there something I missed?
They don't have to worry about that though. They have to worry about how much magical energy can be passed through them to the Servant from the generators in Chaldeas, but they don't have to worry about converting, storing or supplying the energy themselves. They just serve as the conductor between the Servant and the Generators.
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They were shooting at him pretty much the entire time, excepting when their allies were too close to not get hit
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I'm decently sure that the energy from Chaldea has to pass through the Masters first, as in I don't beleive the magical energy skips past the Anchoring Master and into the Servant themselves directly. Like the issue isn't the magical energy itself, that is handled, not being available, but rather how much a Master's circuits can store that magical energy and then transfer it to a Servant.
It feels weird that the Masters would only be the Anchor and not involved in the magical energy supply-chain directly, except as supplementary or emergency reserves for a Servant to tap into.
Raiseth
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I mean, she will probably get a nice tan, blonde hair and start spouting truisms about futility of Justice and tell people to drown in their ideals and die before that.
D-did you read my post at all?
I explicitly mentioned that.
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Yes! I was thinking this the whole time.
Jason and Medea are squishies. The archers didn't need anything crazy for them.
...did he just do the car salesman meme?