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- He, his, him, they
Wait, how does Taylor know that? Did I miss Rika telling Taylor that Herakles died 6 times?
Hereafter [Worm x Fate/Grand Order]
- Thread starter James D. Fawkes
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- Crossover
- Location
- Malaysia
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- He
EMIYA died! What are the odds he's pulling something similar to what he did in the UBW route, where he pretends to be dead only to return at the most heroic moment?
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- He/Him
I mean it's kinda obvious how Drake can hurt Caenis, isn't it? Caenis' blessing came from Poseidon and Drake killed the remnants of Poseidon to get that grail of hers so there is a kinda conceptual advantage there, right?
Caenis wasn't in the original third singularity but Herakles was and it was very naritivally hard to fight.
So Drake killed Poseidon so Poseidon's blessings are ineffective against Drake. That's my guess.
Edit: ninja'd
No, our boy is dead for sure. Rika felt the connection to him disappear.
In UBW, Archer didn't have a master at the time so he could pull it off without anyone noticing.
I'm not surprised that he was the first Chaldea servant to die though. It was either gonna be him or Arash.
Vulpine Fury
in socks
Plus side, a resummon should work... later
- Location
- Philippines
It can also be the same reason why Nero had been able to fight - she was channeling her Heroic Spirit, and so had access to her Servant stats and skills. From there, this could be Pioneer of the Stars at work to make the impossible possible, which functions as Invul Pierce in gameplay.
Raiseth
I Find Your Lack of Memes Disturbing
- Location
- Russia
Mmm, I'm surprised nobody floated around the theory that Drake managed to pierce Poseidon's blessing because she ostensibly straight up murdered Poseidon. She has a natural advantage against any of his incarnations, her getting through his blessing wouldn't be that surprising.
Like, it's not rocket science, lol. It might be something different too, but the idea is not that outrageous.
edit: yeah, we all had the same idea.
Like, it's not rocket science, lol. It might be something different too, but the idea is not that outrageous.
edit: yeah, we all had the same idea.
- Location
- Elsewhere
It's dishonorable for a true hero to target a civilian, especially when they are mentally deficient!
- Location
- just a bit south of nowhere
And here I was really hoping that this was going the route of 'Taylor has conceptual advantage when drowning heroes with unbreakable skin'.
Eh in this case it's fine because Jason isn't exactly a civilian due to being a Servant himself along with serving as the enemy commander who has basically said he's fine with killing them all on top of being Hektor's master who as a reminder also went with targeting masters and pulling other shady stuff of his own which he doesn't really get to do and then complain about being targeted in return.
Having not played fgo my only knowledge of him comes from general chatter and Herk's dream sequence in Strange Fake which seems rather at odds with how he is here with him being far more insulting and abrasive to people along with arrogant and stupid but then again that memory was of his first meeting with Herk so it makes sense he doesn't have his we are the top heroes arrogance.
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- Malaysia
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- He
I'm not sure since when targeting the enemy commander was against chivalry. Hasn't that been an age old tactic by the time the Frankish Empire was around?
TetsuoS2
現地のタコです。
- Location
- 海
He's better in other appearances but he was extremely hateable the way he's written in Okeanos.
There's really no argument against Taylor doing these because the world is on the line, not like she's requesting Jason to be tortured or anything.
Evil Atlas
Inspector of Details
- Location
- Denial
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- He/Him
I have no idea if that's the reason, but it's certainly an obvious connection to make, especially with the number of reminders they were given about Poseidon in this chapter. I'm frankly shocked that none of them thought of it, especially Taylor. This is exactly the sort of connection she's good at! It honestly felt like she was going out of her way not to think of it for the entire second half.
James D. Fawkes
Court Scribe
- Location
- Avalon (Isle of Mists)
Me, trying my best to keep my mouth shut to avoid spoilers.
She doesn't come out and say that in those specific words, but she does say that Drake can't get conceptual advantages as a living human, which is essentially the same point.
Finagle007
[Verified Great Old One]
- Pronouns
- He/Him/His
Smothering, not drowning. It's not drowning if you don't use liquid.
I wouldn't bet money on that. A resummon would lessen the impact of his sacrifice, and if memory serves, the author mentioned that Chaldea wouldn't be bringing back Marie Antoinette for that reason. I suspect the same thing applies to EMIYA.
- Location
- Elsewhere
The joke is that Jason is such a fuckup it would be dishonorable to attack him.
Like clubbing a baby seal.
Stahor
BookWorm
- Location
- Russia, Moscow
I presume it was decided that Emiya is too much of a cheat to have for later events, so it's the end of tutorial mode, as indicated by use of shadow summoning.
- Location
- United States
A classic case of over-commitment. It would have been smarter to back off when Heracules showed himself, but because they didn't; they are down 2 men and showed their hand. Good writing, but Taylor will be kicking herself once hindsight kicks in.
It's easy to forget, given how weak a servant he physically is, but Jason's NP let's him summon the argonuts straight up. (Which is why they appear in his attack animations.) They aren't obligated to answer his summon, in fact most don't, but Heracules and Medea lily will ALWAYS answer. So never underestimate the guy.
Servants summoned outside of FATE are boned, like Da Vinci and Marie, but summoned by FATE directly can be resummoned.
It's easy to forget, given how weak a servant he physically is, but Jason's NP let's him summon the argonuts straight up. (Which is why they appear in his attack animations.) They aren't obligated to answer his summon, in fact most don't, but Heracules and Medea lily will ALWAYS answer. So never underestimate the guy.
It's in line with canon though. The FATE system can resummon prior summoned Servants with their memories intact. And the FATE system is shown thanks to Olga previously. Emiya will come back. But only after the singularity.
Servants summoned outside of FATE are boned, like Da Vinci and Marie, but summoned by FATE directly can be resummoned.
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