Hereafter [Worm x Fate/Grand Order]

So, what's Rika's nickname for Drake going to be? Back Pain? Can't do anything butt related, she already did that with Boudica. Floatie (because her boobs double as flotation devices)?
 
"Yes!" Rika cheered. "Senpai is cool after all!"

"But, Rika," I cautioned, "if you get drunk, it won't be me you'll be answering to. It'll be the Director."

Rika froze, her grin turning frail and strained. "R-right. M-message received, Senpai. I'll be a good girl!"

Had roughly the same energy as:

"It's not me you'll have to explain yourself to, it's Mom."

"Eeek!"
 
Taylor: I have no context for this. This should not work.
Rika: Don't worry, senpai. When we get back I'll find something that will explain how it works.
Ritsuka: No, you are not forcing anime on her. Stop it.
Rika: No fun...
That's not what would happen.
This is what would happen:
Taylor: Oh, you mean working with people who've tried to kill you because there's a greater threat.
Rika: What?
Taylor: How are we planning on enforcing the truce? Hostages? Bomb inside the skull? Personally, I've always preferred threatening to sic my bugs on them.
Rika: WHAT? No, we become their friends.
Taylor: ...How does that prevent betrayal?
Rika: They'd be our friends.
Ritsuka: You've had friends before, haven't you senpai?
Taylor: Do people who befriended you under false pretenses or tried to injure you multiple times count?
Rika: ...
Taylor: Oh, and Emma, who tried to kill me. But she stopped being a friend when she started bullying me.
 
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Honestly, I'm having a hard time believing that Rika, Ritsuka, and even the Chaldean Servants aren't brimming at the seams with questions about what the hell is up with Taylor's powers (and her backstory). The bugs were one thing, and even slowly gathering a bunch of normal crabs onto the beach after slowly finding some along the coastline is not too far from that. But Taylor just kind of instinctively sensing a phantasmal giant crab in the ocean while having a dozen other more important things going on in front of her, causing her to just wander out into the surf with her mind just completely elsewhere, is the kind of craziness that Chaldea hasn't seen with her since Taylor first reawakened her powers in France.


...on an unrelated note, I now realize that Khepri, as a Servant, would probably qualify as a (kinda-sorta) legitimate candidate for Grand Foreigner. Given that she was a legendary hero who saved humanity/Earth using power that came from a non-human/non-Earth source, was incredibly powerful, and was nevertheless full of mystery...
 
Honestly, I'm having a hard time believing that Rika, Ritsuka, and even the Chaldean Servants aren't brimming at the seams with questions about what the hell is up with Taylor's powers (and her backstory).

That's another thing that really needs to be addressed as soon as possible. Honestly @James D. Fawkes, it's past time that the Twins and Mash gets filled in on Taylor. It would make a very good Mash interlude to serve during one of the days while traveling by sea where Taylor really goes full in on telling then how she has these powers and what she did before joining Chaldea that allowed her to fight Dragons, have such varied battle experience, and how she's not falling into despair at their situation trying to save the world.

Additionally EMIYA isn't going to let Taylor bullshit her way past this with non-answers and deflections, not now that's she's shown herself to be a truly credible potential threat with an unknown power and potentially dubious trustworthiness that can control Phantasmals. The man is a Counter Guardian and he was summoned by a different Master, one who isn't Taylor, without a catalyst. His paranoia has to be going off the charts by this point. Taylor just went from being a very useful ally to potential threat to humanity, and he'd act on it even if he hated it if she doesn't explain herself to him and the others soon. His respect for Taylor would let him give her a chance to explain herself, and he'd be very upfront about it, but this is something he wouldn't let go.

But beyond all that, it'd serve to introduce Taylor and her story as a person with a unique history that potentially half your readers are unfamiliar with. Which is a story element and event that really should've been done long, long before this point back when Taylor referenced rotting Lung's dick off way back at the start of Orleans. I would highly advise making such a chapter, or three given how much Taylor's been through, occur very, very soon, like within the next 4 chapters.

Taylor won't bring up the specifics of her Trigger Event, but she has no reason not to be completely forthright about nearly everything else. The fact that the team is going to be in the middle of the sea with no chance of watchers from the enemy and away from Chaldea's potential recording devices really does give these next few chapters a unique opportunity to get this issue done.

Again these are just my suggestions, but I'd highly recommend doing so. It's been a weakness of this story since the beginning. Taylor really hasn't been fleshed out in terms of her history enough for non-Worm fans to understand her thoughts and motivations as well as those who do.

Yeah it's not going to be the most exciting and it is going to retread things potentially half your readers know already, but that's why I'm suggesting you do it in an interlude from Mash, and potentially Arash and EMIYA's perspective if you need to space it out over a few chapters. Their reactions and new understanding of Taylor could be really interesting to see from their view and allows readers who are familiar with Worm's story to see it in a new light; while simultaneously allowing those who aren't familiar with it to better understand her right alongside the Interlude characters.

TL;DR: I truly believe Taylor needs to explain her story as soon as possible to the rest of the team, for many reasons, but most of all for this to be a Quality (Black Sky reference) story. The story's been good thus far, but it's been weakened by such an event not occurring yet. Doing this now would really help improve the story quality to a whole new level in my eyes. It's ultimately up to you James, but I think this is something that needs doing. I'd hate to see this story not live up to its full potential.
 
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Ritsuka: You've had friends before, haven't you senpai?
Taylor: Do people who befriended you you befriended under false pretenses or tried to injure you multiple times count?
Rika: ...
Taylor: Oh, and Emma, who tried to kill me. But she stopped being a friend when she started bullying me.
I think it'd be more likely to go this way. Taylor is often hardest on herself and she was planning on betraying the Undersiders originally.
 
Sorry, of course, but it seems to me, that you are a little so insolent, in order to insist so soon on the disclosure of Taylor's backstory and that Taylor's psychological treatment should begin immediately.

After all, if you think about it, these are interrelated problems.

Issues with "fight to live" instead of "live to fight" can only be resolved with the help of those Taylor can trust. But if they try to find out exactly how to help Taylor by using her story, they can spend quite a bit of her trust credit, which Taylor has an extremely limited amount due to the story itself, and which she is extremely reluctant to give out even to friends.

There is a paradox here — are we trying to get her story from Taylor in order to help with her psychological issues, while losing some of her trust? Or are we using the trust credit given to us to blindly try to figure out what her issue is and help her?

It all comes down to two resources, awareness of the causes of the issue or Taylor's trust credibility. Using only these two resources, we limit ourselves in possible approaches to just a couple of tactics — try to break through a metaphorical minefield, which would become harder with less trust Taylor give us, or blindly jump back and forth until we are torn to pieces, or we do not pass it.

But how do we then solve this equation, relying not on pure luck, but on the resources available to us? Time. After all, both the first and second resources increase over time. The more we interact with Taylor, the more she will be ready to tell some part of her story herself, and for this it will not be necessary to spend so much trust, or in principle, it will not have to spend trust at all!

And we have plenty of time, because we are only at the beginning of the Oceanos, and there are still looming ahead, at least London, America, Camelot, Babylon, Solomon, and, possibly, even some event singularities. We've literally gone through only most of the War & Peace and only half of Worm by word count, so what's next for us?

And here's another funny moment — you can't get real trust without spending it. Here you described how EMIA would be paranoid about Taylor's ability and how secretive she is, but at the same time… This is EMIA! A dude who is no less secretive in terms of his history, and who has an equally interesting and strange ability! It's like noticing a speck in someone else's eye, but walking around with a beam in your eye yourself.
 
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TL;DR: I truly believe Taylor needs to explain her story as soon as possible to the rest of the team,

And the best way to start would be to point out that it involves alot of the second true magic, 'kaleidoscope'. That her story didn't even happen on the same earth as the one they are on now.

Wonder how Emiya would feel knowing the is more people that can jump dimensions. Because he is one of the few servants who can understand how messed up the parallel world stuff can get.
 
As much as immediate resolution to every plot thread might sound fun, just from his last work you can say James likes to set things up and leave them there for a very long time. There is a planned place for the big talks, and honestly I wasn't expecting much of Taylor's story to start coming out until late London or America just based on how he writes, and Fou probably not until Camelot or Babylon.

And uh. Demanding the author write what you want to see happen, even if you try and tone it down by the end, doesn't really seem to come across as the kind of feedback most people ever really listen to? Again, just looking back at the last big story, James doesn't seem like he really listens when people say that.
 
Smaller hints and details might get talked about between now and the big stuff, but Taylor's trust is still a matter of... Her thinking of herself as being the leader, and not necessarily as the twins' friend, which is one of the things holding her back from really opening up. One of the things I want to give the twins the chance to do between Okeanos and the end of London is really start to come into their own, to get the confidence to act without Taylor there to hold their hands, because so far, they haven't had to do much leading without her near to offer guidance or take over outright.

There is a reason, though, that I'm really looking forward to the American Singularity. I'm tentatively titling it, "North American Epic Tragedy: Fundament of the Shining Future." That might change in the future, so it's just tentative right now.

As for whether or not Taylor will do any opening up between now and then, well, that would spoil things a bit.
 
Wonder how Emiya would feel knowing the is more people that can jump dimensions. Because he is one of the few servants who can understand how messed up the parallel world stuff can get.
Depending on background, Emiya knows Zelretch personally via Rin, who became his apprentice.
Hm, i wonder what El Melloi II knows on the subject.

Additionally EMIYA isn't going to let Taylor bullshit her way past this with non-answers and deflections
I'm pretty sure that at this point she clearly told everyone that yes, she has weird shit. It's also fully known to Olga and she decided to keep it secret, and if you want to know, go to her and ask for access, and then Taylor would tell.
Note that even Roman and Da Vinci does not know full story, clearly there are a reason for it.
 
But she was also an ordinary human. We should be able to beat her just by knocking her around a bit and pinning her down until she surrendered.

She's not a Servant, I reminded him. If we can knock her down, we can force her to give up, so if you see an opening —

"Understood," he said aloud.

But when that opportunity would come, I didn't know. Drake was clumsy and stumbling, because she was drunk, but she recovered fast, and with the obvious handicap of being unable to do serious damage, Bradamante, Mash, and Emiya were having trouble dealing with that. There were several moments, as I watched, where a killshot could have ended the whole charade, but they were too short and too small for something less lethal to sneak in.
This actually really irks me. I get that Taylor has been sorta conditioned to not even try it with all the enemies that can simply dematerialize, erupt into flames, or casually crush diamonds and rip apart mountains with their strength, but why on god's green earth is Taylor not abusing her silk lines in this fight?
Drake can do none of the above as far as Taylor knows, and judging by how she can get enough bugs into her guns to be surprised that they'll still fire it's not an issue of being able to deliver the lines to Drake with her bugs. Tie a line from her pistol to a tree or even just her own leg or something. Either she drops the gun or it disrupts her; either is good in this situation.
Worst case scenario she gives lines to Arash or EMIYA and he jury rigs arrow bolos to spam at Drake. Why dodge shots that are going wide? You'll just dodge into them if you go left or right, and going over them serves less purpose than just staying on the ground between them. If nothing else Drake seeing the lines (a very hard feat, especially in current conditions) would still force her to either leave the ground (a weaker position that limits mobility, defensive capabilities, and offensive options) or metaphorically tangle her arms up in making sure she doesn't get tangled up literally.
This is Taylor's bread and butter right here, battlefield control, disruption, traps, sabotage, and restraints driven by local omnicience and a nigh inexhaustable supply of expendable soldiers. Hell Taylor wasn't even doing what she did in prior Servant fights, blinding and deafening them with bugs in the face or distracting them with bug decoys.
 
to get the confidence to act without Taylor there to hold their hands, because so far, they haven't had to do much leading without her near to offer guidance or take over outright.

American Singularity Name

So uh, it never really comes up in the game since it's mostly just Player, and Mash I guess, but now I'm imagining a rayshift where Taylor and the twins don't end up landing together. They can still play phone tag by connecting back to Chaldeas, but the Twins and Mash are now going to have to take the lead in any situation where there's not time to call for help, while Taylor gets to deal with her growing anxiety about not being there to help them but also her much limited personal power. Without Mash she can't summon anyone else in so it's just going to be her and, I want to say it'll be Siegfried's turn by America, bonding over their dragon slaying exploits as they travel alone.
 

Just so you know your coming off as very pushy here I'm fairly sure saying again is accurate too.

Personally, I would also disagree and argue story quality would drop if she suddenly came out with her backstory to everyone. It's against Taylor's general personality, trust issues and would go against the story so far with her suddenly dropping her previous refusals. Additionally, I for one can say I'd really not like it.

There are tons of fics where you have say Harry Potter who moves away from the wizarding world and whether or not there is something supernatural going on where he moved to British wizards come to his new place of work or home and throw around spells. His colleagues or new friends then ask what's going on and despite never talking about it before he just suddenly narrates or pulls out a pensive to show his whole life story including a ton of things they don't need to know because they aren't relevant and often reveal secrets of others. Much like Taylor here these fics previously establish that the protagonist doesn't want to talk about their past usually for very good reasons and especially to people they barely know and it's jarring when they suddenly do the lore dumping and strains credibility. If you want details revealed to the readers there are also other possibilities like Taylor just thinking about her past, a servant having a dream cycle, Shakespeare interlude or conversation since he's read it from his territory creation or her talking about it to Olga between singularities.

Taylor does have very good reasons for keeping quiet about her abilities and past especially with people like the twins who she barely knows, Rika is a bit of a blabbermouth and she knows if they manage to fix things they will be interrogated so they can't reveal what they don't know. It would also be extremely hypocritical for Emiya to press on it when he's keeping so much secret himself. Chaldea is also a magus organisation the privacy of members is expected as all of them have secrets and none will go into the hows and whys of their personal abilities. For actually accomplishing the mission that she can control bugs is the key info and revealing more would have things like range be the most important things like why, when and how did you fight a dragon before is personal curiosity and something they don't need to know so Taylor is fully entitled and in character to say no. This is especially true with her basically being their senior and leader she's making efforts not to come off as weak to the twins so they can depend on her so she's obviously not going to reveal anything that would go against it.
 
Personally, I would also disagree and argue story quality would drop if she suddenly came out with her backstory to everyone. It's against Taylor's general personality, trust issues and would go against the story so far with her suddenly dropping her previous refusals. Additionally, I for one can say I'd really not like it.
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In summation the two counterarguments that have stood since this subject first came up in the thread-
1: "No, you don't need to know. It's private, and does not effect you. You already know all that is relevant to you, and that is that I can do it."
2: "This secrecy is as much for your safety as mine, and Chaldea's in general. This is operational security 101; what you do not know you won't have to lie about or risk leaking. If not to the enemy then certainly the authorities after this whole mess is over. There is a reason the Director classified it. Ignorance sometimes is a viable defense. You have plausible deniability."
-Still stand.
 
Isn't it enough for Olga to say that Teelor sacrificed herself and saved the world against ORT when Chaldea intervened and saved her. And her strength remained from the defeated ORT. I'm sure Emiya and Arash will understand a lot then.
 
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Taylor: Oh, and Emma, who tried to kill me. But she stopped being a friend when she started bullying me.
one thing of note, taylor never actually got injured in the locker event, what emma did wasn't a murder attempt, taylor was physically fine, reason she triggered was cause she knew a lot of people saw it happen yet no one got the teacher and that became obvious after like 10 minutes, that percieved betrayal is what caused her trigger, reason she then went to the hospital is cause her powers sensory feedback overwhelmed her, that's it, she was in the psychward, cause she lashed out at everyone when she was pulled out and yelled about wierd sounds and lights, the second she figured out she was sensing bugs it became a non issue and she could leave
 
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