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Hereafter [Worm x Fate/Grand Order]

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"Wait we don't have any anti-Fortress Noble Phantasms!"
Emiya: "I heard the plot demanded me?"
"Ah, yes, foodman, excellent timing, we're hungry."
Emiya: "I feel like you're missing something, but yes, food."
 
I think you have to temper expectations on Emiya pulling out Anti-Fortress stuff. Canon gives us a total of about 7 unique offensive Anti-Fortress Noble Phantasms. Most of them are on the "Emiya can't copy this" list. Excalibur, Rhongomyniad, Laevatein are the ones that "might have a degraded version that works kinda similar," Ramesseum Tetrytis is an obvious no, so is System Keraunos, and Ochd Deug Odin requires Primordial Runes. Bolverk Gram is the only possibility, and it's a tossup whether Emiya would have that. He definitely has Gram, but Bolverk Gram is a fun little trick that Sigurd figured out for his own use, not something the sword was originally designed for.
 
The Sandman said:
If the court mage is Zhuge Liang, presumably he's there to help Nero's music career.
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In canon Waver is with the United Empire pseudo-mentoring Alexander, though I don't think either one was into it and more into analyzing Nero because that's what everyone in the Singularity cared most about.

Also Shi Huang Di being present could explain why Jing Ke and Lu Bu were chain-summoned, though if Lu Bu is still present I'm curious if Chen Gong will show up early.

...Just imagine if that lunatic is Nero's court mage.
 
Dark as Silver said:
Someone with Fate lore tell me, whats the link from Odin to the celtic heroes?
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This'll be slightly shaky, as it's been a while since I've reviewed the details, but this should be mostly correct.

Most/all of the records we have on Irish mythology, including things like the Ulster Cycle which has Cu in it, come long, long after they would have happened. Beyond that, they come long after Vikings from Scandinavia invaded the Isles. There is evidence that a lot of Irish myths mixed or were re-interpretations of Norse myths. One example is the idea of a Berserker, which is found in both Irish and Norse myths, notably with Cu and his "warp-spasms".

So there are a good number of parallels and influence between Irish myths and Norse ones.
 
There's also the idea that the Fomorians, that I've seen once or twice, aka the Irish Myth's version of the designated 'bad guy', being related to the Vikings as well. Though I might be mixing that up with my research (in the past for a Servant) into Crom Crunch, and how he's possibly an darker aspect of the Dagda, or how Crom is also related to the Fomorians as well...But eventually ended up being becoming the Dullahan according some accounts of Crom Crunch.
 
Will it come out that some of Nero's airheadedness is from her mother continuously poisoning her.
 
James D. Fawkes said:
Also, as a last note, I went with the "translation" of Nero's "umu" just because it really does sound ridiculous and weebish for a Roman emperor speaking Latin to use an archaic Japanese vocalized affirmative. I'm sorry, but it would have trampled all over my suspension of disbelief otherwise and thrown me completely out of my own damn narrative.
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-0/10 not enough umu. Much disappoint. Such sad.-
 
These bits, the interaction with canonical Servants are a guilty pleasure of mine, seeing Taylor smashed into them, it embodies the purest essence of the concept of the crossover. And it's disturbingly rare to see it portrayed well and accurately.
 
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Dark as Silver said:
Someone with Fate lore tell me, whats the link from Odin to the celtic heroes?
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There isn't much of one. I think there's something about Sca being a Skadi bunrei and that's why they're mashed together in LB2? But I couldn't find a better cite for that other than, "Hey, did you know that Scathach and Skadi may have separately derived from the same source mythologically because their names have similar roots?" from their in-game profiles. The big connection is just the Primordial Runes. Odin handed those out like a bad STI at a swingers party and they wound up in Ireland. There's also something about Cu's Caster form, but I don't quite have a full grasp on that one.
 
Everyone always talks about the link between Caster Cu and Odin but never explain what the link actually is. I'm starting to think it was just a wild fan theory until we all gaslit each other into thinking it has actual substance.
 
The Link had to do with things not quite adding up with Primordial Runes, him missing a skill that Cu's without Gae Bolg should have, followed by the animation update laying further Odin connection with the Wolfs, if I recall correctly, and then there's the more outright thing where Odin (in Skadi Interlude focusing on Odin) granted Cu Caster a portion of his power for the first Singularity. Whereupon after that he was used again, as a more direct vessel I think, in Lostbelt 6 as an immediate resummon and retained memory of his prior summoning because Odin allowed him to.

Odin also has a form of future sight good enough to see into the Lostbelts, and his Lostbelt Self (ie LB2, Cu in 6LB might be unrelated to LB Odin) could see into Parahuman history as well. Why Skadi is fused with the Celtic Teacher simply because Odin had wanted to grant her happiness, or something of that nature, if my memory of the translation serves? So you could argue that Odin went around spreading Runes because there was need for them in the future, and it would also help Skadi as well.

So there always was substance to the theory and evidence to back it up, including my room lines too I think, but those are even less clear to my memory then everything else I've stated.
 
The Void said:
could see into Parahuman history as well
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Huh, that is neat. So Wildbow's Worm has officially been recognized as being in game in FGO. I didn't think something like that would happen. I'm amazed that a Japanese company would have made a deal with Wildbow to let Worm get mentioned.

Or, maybe, can you please clarify what you mean by that sentence? Because I'm pretty sure that Worm isn't mentioned in FGO.
 
CCMax said:
Huh, that is neat. So Wildbow's Worm has officially been recognized as being in game in FGO. I didn't think something like that would happen. I'm amazed that a Japanese company would have made a deal with Wildbow to let Worm get mentioned.

Or, maybe, can you please clarify what you mean by that sentence? Because I'm pretty sure that Worm isn't mentioned in FGO.
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That should, or could have been 'see into Pan-Human History', methinks. IOW, what the Human Order acknowledges as the 'correct' or 'proper' history of events.
 
The original light novel/anime had Cu used Norse runes instead of Celtic runes because they looked cooler or came up on a google search first.

And post-explanation was that Scathach thought Cu would be better with them.

thats it, just a bit of lore correction because the guy that wrote the original story didn't know/didn't care that 'runes' are not just one alphabet.
 
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CCMax said:
Huh, that is neat. So Wildbow's Worm has officially been recognized as being in game in FGO. I didn't think something like that would happen. I'm amazed that a Japanese company would have made a deal with Wildbow to let Worm get mentioned.

Or, maybe, can you please clarify what you mean by that sentence? Because I'm pretty sure that Worm isn't mentioned in FGO.
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oh no, not officially or even unofficially, it's just that in this fic, worm happened in a different timeline, thus in this fic odin could conceivably have witnessed those events from the past
 
CCMax said:
Huh, that is neat. So Wildbow's Worm has officially been recognized as being in game in FGO. I didn't think something like that would happen. I'm amazed that a Japanese company would have made a deal with Wildbow to let Worm get mentioned.

Or, maybe, can you please clarify what you mean by that sentence? Because I'm pretty sure that Worm isn't mentioned in FGO.
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TimeDiver said:
That should, or could have been 'see into Pan-Human History', methinks. IOW, what the Human Order acknowledges as the 'correct' or 'proper' history of events.
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Meant to say Pan but Para came out, though I would not be surprised if Odin could have seen Worm either to be entirely honest.

It just means that both versions of the Odin the God are aware of each other, and the events that occur in their timeline. So they are similar but not the exact same in disposition.
 
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