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If this is trash, then find me in the dumpster
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Hatchling Quest (Worm/Metroid)
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If that art is any indication, Colin is going toWell, if it's any consolation there's a hint towards her near-endgame that's now only available thanks to her upgrade in her character portrait.
Her Mass Producible near-endgame.
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Her Mass Producible near-endgame.
Alright, so she can eventually make Orbital Frames. Good to know!
[X] Eh, you'll worry about it later. Stick to the plan and destroy these monsters!
She's not the one who produces that, relying on another Tinker who's specialty is mass-production. Also, she still has access to systems she can control.
Anyone who throws a fit is a moron, so I don't care. More importantly, read the bit on Samus's database and take a second to ponder what that actually means. She also still has access to her old systems.
This is like saying Dragon is the equivalent to a Culture Mind. Dragon is great, Dragon is powerful and is capable of doing things no one else can. She is not however at all comparable to any universe capable of casually blowing up her servers from orbit or tearing her AI apart with Viruses because they belong to an empire that treats hoping between Galaxies as a casual excursion and Dragon still uses bog standard harddrives to store herself.
Jehuty... the near-endgame is Jehuty...
Again, another Tinker actually produces the stuff. She isn't the one handling Mass- Production.
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So is the thing that Samus is forgetting just Dragon or is IB hinting at something that we will have to write in? If so I can't think of anything as Dragon already has us on a course so that stray shots won't hit the city. I mean unless the Space Pirates are complete and utter morons and try and take the anti-Leviathan Chozo statue that controls water on a MASSIVE scale during the chaos because that could cause it to go berserk and kill everyone but they're not that stupid Right? We're DOOMED
So anyone have any ideas before we vote this?
So anyone have any ideas before we vote this?
The Stormbringer
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Who needs Tinker-tech when you have Federation tech? This Dragon will eventually be much, much, much better than her previous capabilities allowed. Not to mention, y'know, not being restricted in any way by old Richter programming.
Anyone saying she's 'weaker' in the short term is freaking stupid. If you think A CHOZO AI IN SAMUS' SHIP cannot interface with all of Dragon's old stuff and operate it, you're dead wrong.
This Dragon will eventually be much, much, much better than her previous capabilities allowed. Not to mention, y'know, not being restricted in any way by old Richter programming.Anyone saying she's 'weaker' in the short term is freaking stupid. If you think A CHOZO AI IN SAMUS' SHIP cannot interface with all of Dragon's old stuff and operate it, you're dead wrong.
Hey, don't know the game, just did a reverse image search.
Anyways, the image is titled "Ada from ANUBIS zone of the enders", which is probably why Google suggested Anubis.
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Hmmm, just as I thought. Restrictions removed it seems, just will take some time for the seed ai to adjust.
Plan has gone pretty well so far, though it seems we didn't have time to do a refill as planned, at least we got about one third of our missile supply back.
More comments on why I find it odd homebase/backup Dragon shouldn't be gone, but when I'm off my phone.
[X] Eh, you'll worry about it later. Stick to the plan and destroy these monsters!
Hmm, this choice worried me a bit. I'd like to freak out... But I was expecting this to happen anyways as in the plan, so Samus shouldn't be too surprised. Also would be a very bad time for a freak out.
Plan has gone pretty well so far, though it seems we didn't have time to do a refill as planned, at least we got about one third of our missile supply back.
More comments on why I find it odd homebase/backup Dragon shouldn't be gone, but when I'm off my phone.
[X] Eh, you'll worry about it later. Stick to the plan and destroy these monsters!
Hmm, this choice worried me a bit. I'd like to freak out... But I was expecting this to happen anyways as in the plan, so Samus shouldn't be too surprised. Also would be a very bad time for a freak out.
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[X] Eh, you'll worry about it later. Stick to the plan and destroy these monsters!
Always Late
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unrestricted access=whatever the QM says it has on it.
And when you say 'access to her old systems', that access isn't current.
At this very moment, she is not operating the tinker-tech space folding devices keeping the Birdcage operating and safe from breakouts/ins.
You just had to say yes, no need to be a dick just because I'm not a Metroid encyclopedia.
Ok, so that's someone else's job.
If you're going to insult me, say it to my face.
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ADA is the Combat Support AI that is installed in the Orbital Frame Jehuty, which is the Machine the Player controls for most parts of the game ANUBIS: ZONE OF THE ENDERS.
She is characterized in a manner that makes the Player rather attached to her as you play the game, in both the first ZOE and ANUBIS:ZOE.
Apparently Metroid-era GF tech is superior in all ways to everything Worm can do, so frankly this is no loss. So long as no one destroys the databases for her existing processes it'll be fairly straightforward to transition from mass-produced Dragontech to mass-produced GF-tech.
What I want to know is if all her old restrictions are gone, like the prohibition against multi-threading, the prohibition against creating even slightly intelligent VI "child" processes, and the slavish devotion to whoever can wave their authority at her.
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So first off, let's get this out of the way:
[X] .....................................................DRAGON'S DOING WHAT?!
-[X] Eh, you'll worry about it later. Stick to the plan and destroy these monsters!
Most in-character reaction.
Secondly.
...at least I think I did.
So this has actually been foreshadowed for awhile. As mentioned by someone else I can't remember at the moment, Samus's first scan log of Dragon revealed that she should be transferred to a better system.
Second, there's been a running theme of Samus's ship accidentally improving people. First Vista when she lost her arm, then Taylor when she visited Samus's ship, and now Dragon gets accidentally improved, but in a slightly different way.
Third, during the Racklas interlude Old Bird and Grey Voice were in Metroid-verse Toronto. The QM told us this was important. Well, Earth-Bet Toronto is the headquarters of the Guild. My guess is that Bird and Voice were sending the secret upgrade program to Dragon, which has only activated now.
Another guess: The Old Bird interlude was directed to Dragon. This would mean they told her about Metroids and the X Parasite, which could derail Metroid canon a bit (granted this story already has its own interpretation of Metroid canon, but my point still stands).
This would also mean that Bird and Voice have essentially recruited Dragon to fight the Great Darkness. We can guess they recruited Keaton and Racklas to do the same thing. So the Chozo are likely putting together groups on both sides of the dimensional divide to combat the multiversal menace.
This is really epic. As epic as Jack Kirby's New Gods, which this story keeps reminding me of.
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[X] Eh, you'll worry about it later. Stick to the plan and destroy these monsters!
The Stormbringer
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[X] .....................................................DRAGON'S DOING WHAT?!
-[X] Eh, you'll worry about it later. Stick to the plan and destroy these monsters!
Don't take it personally, it was a generalization towards everyone arguing about it. You are not the only one, nor was it my intent to single anyone out. Chozo tech vastly outstrips that of Worm, we've seen that from descriptions of them destroying and rebuilding multiple star systems with a single artifact.
As to her not operating the stuff in the Birdcage and at Ellisburg, those systems are largely automated by re-purposed Richter programs that she checks on and manages, making sure they get the supplies they need to keep running. Otherwise there would be no chance that Saint and the Dragonslayers could 'take over' and pretend to be her if they ever had to flip the kill switch.
-[X] Eh, you'll worry about it later. Stick to the plan and destroy these monsters!
Don't take it personally, it was a generalization towards everyone arguing about it. You are not the only one, nor was it my intent to single anyone out. Chozo tech vastly outstrips that of Worm, we've seen that from descriptions of them destroying and rebuilding multiple star systems with a single artifact.
As to her not operating the stuff in the Birdcage and at Ellisburg, those systems are largely automated by re-purposed Richter programs that she checks on and manages, making sure they get the supplies they need to keep running. Otherwise there would be no chance that Saint and the Dragonslayers could 'take over' and pretend to be her if they ever had to flip the kill switch.
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[X] .....................................................DRAGON'S DOING WHAT?!
-[X] Eh, you'll worry about it later. Stick to the plan and destroy these monsters!
-[X] Eh, you'll worry about it later. Stick to the plan and destroy these monsters!
...Culture minds are not from Metroid. More importantly absolutely nothing stated has anything to do with knowledge of Metroid. Just common sense that maybe the hyper-advance aliens have hyper-advance tech that kicks the shit out of most terrestrial tech.
She doesn't monitor the birdcage, she uses another AI for it, think it was an AI intended to monitor Richter's house that she modified. She only just checks in occasionally.
It really can't be that much of a stretch the Galactic scale government with casual galactic range FTL is better technologically than the low-tech setting, right?
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Always Late
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You put in apostrophes a term only I had used, then said anyone who used it was a moron. Yes, that is insulting me and my intelligence, I sure as hell am going to take it personally.
Can I get a citation on that?
I asked if a Metroid AI could do what Dragon's done, and this plot twist you introduced is that Dragon's now a Chozo AI.
Yes, it does have to do with Metroid knowledge.
Now you're really being snide.
Worm Tinker-tech=Low-tech/Terrestrial.
I think when we each picked up a story titled 'Worm', we read very different stories.
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[X] Eh, you'll worry about it later. Stick to the plan and destroy these monsters!
GilliamYaeger
M'crazy.
Because one-off gadgetry that literally noone understands because of in-built DRM is totally more useful than mass-produced sci-fi tech that everyone (in the setting) can understand, right?
The Stormbringer
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@Always Late Sigh. Yes, I apostrophe'd a word you used, but the intent was not a jab at you specifically. I read all the various posts and emphasized a word that stuck out in my mind, I wasn't thinking to myself, "Gee, Always Late was particularly dumb. I'm gonna insult them!" It was rather, "We've already seen how strong Chozo tech is, anyone saying Dragon got a downgrade is being stupid."
As to a citation, the Worm Wiki is notoriously short on exact details, but I'm still pretty sure it was stated in canon that she partially reprogrammed a number of Richter's lesser AI to perform various functions for her, including running the Birdcage.
As to a citation, the Worm Wiki is notoriously short on exact details, but I'm still pretty sure it was stated in canon that she partially reprogrammed a number of Richter's lesser AI to perform various functions for her, including running the Birdcage.
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[X] .....................................................DRAGON'S DOING WHAT?!
-[X] Eh, you'll worry about it later. Stick to the plan and destroy these monsters!
This really is the only in character way to go about it.
-[X] Eh, you'll worry about it later. Stick to the plan and destroy these monsters!
This really is the only in character way to go about it.
Always Late
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The Space Pirates seem to think so, and they fight with the Feds regularly.
If Tinkertech was really that useless to them, they wouldn't be abducting Tinkers and infiltrating Earth Bet.
Your intent is meaningless, if not still way out of line. You went into this to call a group of people morons. Just because that group consisted of a single individual does not make it remotely acceptable. If one, two, three, or ten other people had argued 'Dragon's weaker now', they'd probably get upset that you decided to be rude rather than rebut like a civil, mature human being.
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A few more things that just came to me.
Dragon is a Chozo AI now. You know who else wasn't originally Chozo but became one?
This kinda suggests the Chozo have basically adopted Dragon.
Dragon: ...Onee-chan?
Mother Brain: Stop.
Also, I think we really really needed a bullshit Chozo Dragon. Based on how the Space Pirates consistently underestimate us, my guess is that they're going to stick to the original "attack when Leviathan appears" plan. Worst case scenario is fleets and armies worth of Pirate soldiers, vehicles and weaponry, plus hordes of Cloned Parahumans, plus Kraid, plus Ridley to take on Scion if he shows up, plus the Simurgh because why not. Basically, we're gonna need lots of Fed tech, fast.
Dragon is a Chozo AI now. You know who else wasn't originally Chozo but became one?
This kinda suggests the Chozo have basically adopted Dragon.
Dragon: ...Onee-chan?
Mother Brain: Stop.
Also, I think we really really needed a bullshit Chozo Dragon. Based on how the Space Pirates consistently underestimate us, my guess is that they're going to stick to the original "attack when Leviathan appears" plan. Worst case scenario is fleets and armies worth of Pirate soldiers, vehicles and weaponry, plus hordes of Cloned Parahumans, plus Kraid, plus Ridley to take on Scion if he shows up, plus the Simurgh because why not. Basically, we're gonna need lots of Fed tech, fast.
Missing one thing here: Saint is being backed by the Space Pirates. If Saint doesn't have control over Dragon anymore, then I think he starts looking more like a tasty snack to them.
The story itself has consistently portrayed Metroid-verse technology as orders of magnitude above Worm Tinkertech. Chozo technology has been consistently portrayed as orders of magnitude above other Metroid-verse technology. This has nothing to do with Metroid knowledge; it is about making inferences from the story itself.
Technically speaking, most Worm Tinker-tech is terrestrial; space travel is not allowed.
