Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

So, as far as charms go, I think we need:
1) Tool-Transcending Constructs. I already made the case for why - in modern setting having no need for tools is utterly broken. And Dresden stories show again and again that the key to victory is preparation, and one can punch way above their power level with proper tools.
2) Hollow Mind Possession - that's pretty much the only easy way I see for protecting our devices from magical entropy effect, and to maybe get Dresden (who has to be at least a three dot ally) smart devices, until we get
3) Constructive Convergence of Principles - we sadly have nothing to permanently fortify mechanical and electronic devices against the ravages of magic. So, making our own magical devices will have to suffice.
4) Source Code Compliance Protocol - there's a reason for this. And that reason lies on the Dresden side of the story. The "language at the heart of all languages" pretty much has to be Enochian, ie the language of angels. Even if not (and I strongly think it is), the charm could be cludged into a teaching one, by analyzing the recordings of said language. It would be dead useful. Especially with Bob being around.
5) Endless Torment Emanation - that's a story long anti-bureaucracy charm. Most, if not all our main enemies will be organizations. The ability to f*ck them up without needing to directly confront them is invaluable. And as far as I can see there's nothing stopping us from stacking those charms. at least against people involved in multiple conspiracies and societies.

Because f*ck Nicodemius and f*ck the Black Council.
That's all outside of our key-hells, so it's expensive.

Also for Hollow we don't really have the supporting skills, Constructive Convergence is a 5-Dot Charm so far from our XP-availability, Source Code is basically "just" talking without language-barrier, which we barely need as long as we stay in the country.

I think most of these Charms, except Tool-Transcendence and maybe Endless Torment are far out from what we currently need, want or can afford.
And they just don't fit that much with our starting themes, what does Molly have to do with high-tech tricks?
 
'Verdant Emptiness Endowment can be used to other people by proxy if they are a part of said proxy's Intimacies. Whether it's positive or negative.' Am I correct?

No not quite, because then it could be used on basically everyone by proxy. The person making the wish has to be investing significant material and/or emotional effort into something to do with the other person in a way that can be removed/lessened by the wish. Basically the wish receiver has to have Flaw (Relationship with X) and then you can remove the flaw including in a way that impacts X.

This is not unique, if you give someone a point of resources fate will conspire to for instance get them a job which means will of course impact their employer. Wishes that have to do with interpersonal interactions affect other people
 
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Vote closed, looks like we are going for he compromise.
Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Jul 11, 2022 at 2:49 AM, finished with 139 posts and 20 votes.
 
what does Molly have to do with high-tech tricks?
She's a teenager. And yes, it's only 2006, but can you imagine her giving up her cellphone?

As to source code - this is where Dresden side of the crossover comes into play. Because remember, we aren't just working with Exalted. Dresden side of the story has words to say. Plus, never underestimate the necessity of communication. Or of making someone's eyes bleed just from trying to talk. Because Source Code also inflicts bashing damage on anyone trying to speak in Exalt's presence, unless we spend some additional essence. And for many wizards, magic has vocal components. Ones that are in specific languages. Ones that shouldn't work if the wizard is forced to speak another language, and also receive bashing damage any time they try to actually open their mouth.
 
She's a teenager. And yes, it's only 2006, but can you imagine her giving up her cellphone?
Essence would propably not hurt our cellphone.

If we fight next to Harry, we shouldn't take it with us. Or if we expect to work with or against Wizards.
But in our regular life I see no obstacle to using it.

As to source code - this is where Dresden side of the crossover comes into play. Because remember, we aren't just working with Exalted. Dresden side of the story has words to say. Plus, never underestimate the necessity of communication. Or of making someone's eyes bleed just from trying to talk. Because Source Code also inflicts bashing damage on anyone trying to speak in Exalt's presence, unless we spend some additional essence. And for many wizards, magic has vocal components. Ones that are in specific languages. Ones that shouldn't work if the wizard is forced to speak another language, and also receive bashing damage any time they try to actually open their mouth.
Yeah, those secondaries are pretty cool and the Charm is cheap.
I'm convinced.
 
I'd rather take the Lanka Charm that explodes anything manmade near us thats not ours or our allies'.

Instantly win against guns, RIP Warden swords and goodbye wizard foci.
 
Arc 0 Post 21: Homecoming
Homecoming

5th of July 2006 A.D.

"That..." you nod slowly thinking the whole thing over. "That would be best I think, talk to someone more senior who is likely to be sympathetic." You smile at the wizard, knowing it probably comes out more tired than anything. "Thank you for everything you have done, helping save me and dealing with my nonsense."

"Making sense out of nonsense is what wizards are for," he tries to make light of it, but you can read the worry on his face. You are not out of the woods yet, not by far, but for now at least you can have a few days reprieve. "I'll be in touch once I have a meeting set up," he adds to your mother.

"Thank you as well Mister Dresden." So he rates a 'mister' now, you note. Good to know she is warming up to him, though you guess after Arctis Tor everything can only get warmer. Usum actually laughs at the mental pun in what might be his most egregious act of toadyism.

"Let's go home baby, " your mom says after a moment and so you do.

***​

From inside the cab the house looks almost black against the glow of the streetlights, the burgundy and ivory it had been painted hidden such that it seems the rambling old Victorian into which your family had moved when you were nine. Falling in love with it then might have been the start of your liking for all things creepy, but now the house had been brightened up, almost tamed from the bright flowers in the front yard to the literal white picket fence around it. Not that your parents stopped at two point five kids, there had already been four of you then and Amanda on the way

There are lights in the windows and many faces pressed against them waiting for your return. What am I going to say? What am I going to say? The question runs through your mind like a hamster in its little wheel. You can't see the damage to the backyard from here, but you remember the things that had come to the house, the things that had taken you. They would have taken Daniel or Mathew just as readily, they would have taken anyone really. Fear was fear and that is what they fed on... and they had been there because of you. Now you had taken something from the Winter Court, something old, something powerful. Who was to say they would not come again?

"Molly!" Your mother's voice breaks you out of your reverie where you had just been standing on the sidewalk looking up at the house. "Come on, let's go inside and get you out of those clothes."

Looking down at yourself you cannot for once disagree with the scornful tone, jeans T-Shirt and jacket are all ripped in very much un-artful ways.

"Don't throw them out I can fix them," the words come out almost reflexively, remembering Lasciel's parting words about boots.

There is something reassuringly familiar about Mom's sigh. You are not sure what it says about you.

Keys jingle in the lock for a moment then the door swings open and you open your mouth to speak...

You do not get a single word in edgewise before the avalanche of 'are you OK?'s and 'Did those things hurt you' and 'where did they take you?' wash over you. Everyone but Hope and Hank are here even Amanda though it's way past her bedtime, she rushes in to hug mom then you and stops cold.

"Wha' happened?" she squeaks.

"The realms of the fey are known for changing those who pass through them," Usum offers and that is as good as anything you had come up on the way here. "It turns out you getting kidnapped by wicked faeries doesn't leave one quite the way they used to be."

"So it's like a curse?" Matthew asks.

"No," the word comes out more firmly than you thought it would. "It's like... superpowers I guess."

"Well show us then." Leech asks, eyes wide behind her spectacles.

"No," Mom cuts her off sharply, adding. "And why isn't Amanda in bed?"

Daniel clears his throat, as the eldest one at home that's his question to answer. "I let her stay up since she said she could not sleep anyway with worry about you guys being gone so long."

"How long were we gone?" Mom asks with dawning realization.

"You've been gone for two days, its Wendsday," your brother replies.

Add 'missed two days of school' to the trouble I'm in, you sigh inwardly. "I'm going to take a shower," you proclaim to no one in particular and then duck out of the room before anyone can stop you. You had hoped that dad would be back by now. Even if he is angry at you dad always gives good advice when you are in real trouble.

***​

The shower feels strange as the water cools almost instantly off your skin you can barely feel it. You turn it hotter and hotter and hotter until the bathroom is filled with steam. But it still doesn't feel like it used to. I'm always going to be cold, like that place, like those things. You don't know when you started crying, but you are and you can't stop.

"Yours is not the cold of that realm Most Dreadful Flower of the Endless Night," Usum speaks in your mind again. "Yours is the chill of Kakuri, the Night Realm where dwells Emma-O mighty among the Yama Kings, pretender to the throne of hell." Sensing your fear the demon adds."Your power comes not though him, nor through any other of the so-called-lords of that place. It echoes the surging essence of Yomi Wan..."

So sitting in the steam filled bathroom in your parent's home you learn about the Thousand Hells and the tainted spirits that live there tormenting the wicked, about the Wuan Kuei, the Ten Thousand Demons who are reborn of those sinful souls who manage to escape, by strength, by cunning and sometimes even by the machinations of the dark lords themselves and crawl back into their corpses to live again s hunters of the living. And you learn a little bit about where your power had come from before the black ice tree.

"The power which is now yours and I bound to was unearthed from a place of great, power darkness between the realms of Lanka and Kakuri known only as the Scar by the Rakshas of Lanka. Bound was it in black jade and taken as a trophy. Though they could use only the merest sliver of its might it was a great weapon in the wars of the demons, but they were ever careful not to bring it too near a living mortal soul for then it might be unleased. They questioned me under torrent for I knew many old secrets, though I did not remember what I had been before the Scar or whence I dwelt."

"I'm sorry you had to go through that," you interrupt fervently, not caring if he is a demon.

"I am well now mistress, I will not be put back," he replies with the same conviction you had felt when talking to mom earlier. "When the Demon City was broken by its own hubris the shard of power was taken by the servants of Emma-O who use it much as the Rakshas had, but less cautiously, for they did not know that it was a crown meant for the Chosen. So they bore it up to realms nearer to the world of men where, in fields of snow and crushing ice, they battled the servants of Queen Mab. In the last of those battles the fey were the victors. They feared what my whispers would do to them so they bound me in black ice in the heart of their fortress and then in their folly they brought near you who would be Chosen and on their heels one with the power to break the prison...."

"Molly stop hogging the bathroom already!" Leech's voice and banging on the door cut off the dark history of your power and you realize that at some point in the account your tears had all dried up.

"Use the other one!" you shout back though the door.

"Can't Matthew's in there, but not for an hour!"

It seems not even unspeakable demonic powers can save one from the scourge of little sisters.

What do you do tomorrow?

[] Go to school, you have already missed too many days

[] Skip,you have more important things to do
-[] Visit Rosie in the hospital, it's the least you can do
-[] Take another go at those bookshops about magic this time with Usum fora guide so you do not pick up duds
-[] Go talk to Harry, you have a lot more to tell him and it would be nice to do so without Mom listening in

[] Write in


OOC: We are going to play day by day until the meeting with Ebeneezer then we will get into bigger time increments.
 
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I am vaguely tempted by the school option. If only because I cant imagine why we would want to go.

Aside from our pitiful academics score anyway.
 
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Usum actually laughs at the mental pun in what might be his most egregious act of toadyism.
Such a worshipful sycophant you are, Usum.
So sitting in the steam filled bathroom in your parent's home you learn about the Thousand Hells and the tainted spirits that live there tormenting the wicked, about the Wuan Kuei, the Ten Thousand Demons who are reborn of those sinful souls who manage to escape, by strength, by cunning and sometimes even by the machinations of the dark lords themselves and crawl back into their corpses to live again s hunters of the living. And you learn a little bit about where your power had come from before the black ice tree.
AHA! So the Wan Kuei do exist in this verse!
They feared what my whispers would do to them so they bound me in black ice in the heart of their fortress and then in their folly they brought near you who would be Chosen and on their heels one with the power to break the prison."
Huh, that's a good in-lore reason to why we have the powers of Emma-O and Lanka so freely at our tips.

Also, it is now revealed that Usum is old. Like, really old. Like, so old he might predate the Yama Kings themselves.
Rolls
Lies to Children Charisma + Subterfuge roll.
>5 Succeses more than the basic difficulty.
L-L-L-LEGENDARY THRESHOLD!!!

All Hail Molly Carpenter, Demon Empress of Hell, Liers to Children. May she instill fear upon the newborns of the Sixth Age!

[X] Go to school, you have already missed too many days

The only school I've ever been to as an Exalt is the College of Sorcery in Lookshy. And there were many summoned Demons as a result. I graduated by successfully binding Amalion, the Third Circle and Eleventh Soul of Malfeas, the Manse of Echoes Ascending and interred him as a permanent part of Lookshy Millitary.

My Twilight be wack yo!
 
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[X] Go to school, you have already missed too many days

Going to school may help decrease tensions with Charity.
 
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[X] Go to school, you have already missed too many days

We got kindapped by faeries and got tortured, yet that does not excuse skipping school. After all Education is important. :V:V:V
 
Honestly if academics 2 is adult average, with high int were well above that.

With int 4 we should probably be fast tracked.

Wed have to take a placement test though and... eh.
 
Too bad occultism isn't a regular class...
Anymore, you mean.

The knowledge of the Occult has been used by many before the 19th Century. Astrology, Psychology even Medicine uses Occultism as a bases of their knowledge.

We should re-introduce Enochian and how to attune one's Meridians as a part of the curriculum when we finally become Demon Empress.
 
With INT 4 we still roll 5 dice, which should be above average for student.
tfw you're smart but for some reason you can never get your words on paper properly, this is me pulling from experience it isn't fun when you know what you're doing but your mind suddenly goes blank when you try to write it down.
We should re-introduce Enochian and how to attune one's Meridians as a part of the curriculum when we finally become Demon Empress.
Idk why but the thought came to my head after reading this but every time we get a demon/fairy/spirit for a minion I really want to rename them all in the same vein as the angels from K6BD
 
tfw you're smart but for some reason you can never get your words on paper properly, this is me pulling from experience it isn't fun when you know what you're doing but your mind suddenly goes blank when you try to write it down.

Idk why but the thought came to my head after reading this but every time we get a demon/fairy/spirit for a minion I really want to rename them all in the same vein as the angels from K6BD
I bet we could name our Bakemono anything we want.
 
[X] Go to school, you have already missed too many days

Re-establishing some level of normalcy is probably important/useful for maintaining mental health.
 
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