Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

OOC: So you know how World of Darkness has Pentex... that gave me ideas for moving the Dresdenverse fomori into the modern age. Yes they are thee dregs and monsters of a thousand mythologies, but that does not mean they cannot adapt for greater evil in the twenty-first century.
Those methods are really close to what Pentex does to prepare people for becoming a specific kind of Fomori.
Only thing missing is the evil spirit that affects the final transformation in WoD.

[X] Take the files and a sampling of the pills, destroy the rest
 
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You cannot learn apprentice alchemy from the stuff it is too advanced, but once you get to 3 dots, it would grand you a 50% discount on the XP you pay for the forth dot.
Rounded up or down? In any case, that's quite a good haul - at least 4 points economy.

Examples of 4 dot alchemic recipes:
•••• A chemical compound that raises the user's Physical Attributes for (Stamina +3) hours. During this time, the user will be very hungry, due to the excess strain being placed on her metabolism. This chemical may raise user Attributes to 6 dots or higher.

•••• A regimen of drugs and potions that extends the user's life (though not indefinitely). While on the regimen, the user ages at the rate of one month for every year. If the regimen is halted, these years come back upon the user at the rate of one month per day, until the regimen is started back up or the user dies of old age.
•••• A salve that, when applied to the eyes, grants the user the ability to see through the Shroud for one night (see Wr20).

•••• An unstable metal that can be turned into a projectile that will burst into flames when fired or launched, inflicting an extra two dice worth of fire damage and igniting flammable materials.

•••• An incredibly unhealthy "study aid" that sharpens the user's focus unnaturally, granting them +1 Intelligence and +1 Wits, which can take them above their normal maximums for a scene, after which time they'll typically crash hard, needing a full 12 hours of sleep.

•••• A headache-inducing powder that, when inhaled, grants the user two dots of Anti-Psychic (Sorcerer Revised, pg. 91) for a scene, although they suffer extreme headaches the entire time, causing a -1 wound penalty equivalent.
•••• Accelamine: A pill that speeds up the taker's reflexes and thinking. It grants one extra action per turn for the remainder of the scene, but all attempts to focus on anything are at +2 difficulty.
So, essentially "become temporarily superhuman" is on the table, as well as "make someone essentially ageless, on a subscription basis". Also some strangely low-key magical material (seriously, mundane banned types of ammunition can do this). I probably don't need to explain how "make people stop aging on a subscription basis" would be useful, right?

My only concern about staying to strip everything of value is the time involved. Lingering here for longer than necessary is just asking for a Fomori strike team to portal in via the Nevernever. Or for the Reds to toss a bundle of explosives overboard as they leave and collapse the place with us in it.
Reds seem to have been scared straight, from all indications. And I'm not sure if Fomori were even able to get the "we are being attacked" out in time. We were quite swift.

EDIT:
We should probably ask some questions using the crown and the remains lying around. Any ideas on what to ask best?

I am torn between "who is the ultimate mastermind behind this" and "what path were they opening".
 
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Rounded up or down? In any case, that's quite a good haul - at least 4 points economy.

Examples of 4 dot alchemic recipes:
•••• A chemical compound that raises the user's Physical Attributes for (Stamina +3) hours. During this time, the user will be very hungry, due to the excess strain being placed on her metabolism. This chemical may raise user Attributes to 6 dots or higher.

•••• A regimen of drugs and potions that extends the user's life (though not indefinitely). While on the regimen, the user ages at the rate of one month for every year. If the regimen is halted, these years come back upon the user at the rate of one month per day, until the regimen is started back up or the user dies of old age.
•••• A salve that, when applied to the eyes, grants the user the ability to see through the Shroud for one night (see Wr20).

•••• An unstable metal that can be turned into a projectile that will burst into flames when fired or launched, inflicting an extra two dice worth of fire damage and igniting flammable materials.

•••• An incredibly unhealthy "study aid" that sharpens the user's focus unnaturally, granting them +1 Intelligence and +1 Wits, which can take them above their normal maximums for a scene, after which time they'll typically crash hard, needing a full 12 hours of sleep.

•••• A headache-inducing powder that, when inhaled, grants the user two dots of Anti-Psychic (Sorcerer Revised, pg. 91) for a scene, although they suffer extreme headaches the entire time, causing a -1 wound penalty equivalent.
•••• Accelamine: A pill that speeds up the taker's reflexes and thinking. It grants one extra action per turn for the remainder of the scene, but all attempts to focus on anything are at +2 difficulty.
So, essentially "become temporarily superhuman" is on the table, as well as "make someone essentially ageless, on a subscription basis". Also some strangely low-key magical material (seriously, mundane banned types of ammunition can do this). I probably don't need to explain how "make people stop aging on a subscription basis" would be useful, right?


Reds seem to have been scared straight, from all indications. And I'm not sure if Fomori were even able to get the "we are being attacked" out in time. We were quite swift.

EDIT:
We should probably ask some questions using the crown and the remains lying around. Any ideas on what to ask best?

I am torn between "who is the ultimate mastermind behind this" and "what path were they opening".

XP cost boosts are always rounded up for general consistency
 
Subscription service immortality would be great, except we are unironically have better things to do; VEE is capable of granting flat merit-based immortality that takes no additional upkeep and doesn't consume priceless time of an Infernal Exalt.

But 4 dots of alchemy is still good. 4 Dots is the point where we can simulate low dots Disciplines and such; one dot of Auspex would be absolutely incredible.
 
My only concern about staying to strip everything of value is the time involved. Lingering here for longer than necessary is just asking for a Fomori strike team to portal in via the Nevernever. Or for the Reds to toss a bundle of explosives overboard as they leave and collapse the place with us in it.

[X] Take the files and a sampling of the pills, destroy the rest
That's just a bonus. We couldn't justify slaughtering them as a betrayal, but if they betray us then we get to.
[X] Try to strip as much equipment and arcane machinery as you can out of the base
-[x]Crown question: Who is the ultimate mastermind behind all this?
 
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[X] Try to strip as much equipment and arcane machinery as you can out of the base
-[X] Use Tool Transcending Constructs to increase the rate of packing and to make an amphibious trailer to pack it all in.
--[X] Use craft excellency
-[X] Use the crown to discern the identity of the ultimate beneficiary of this scheme. Who was this done in service of?
-[X] stunt: as you stare at the horrific assembly, part of you wants to burn it all down. To smash and cut and destroy until not even a memory remains. But... "The best revenge is living well" you mutter, "We are taking it all, and putting it to better use. Using this for good is the best we can do for its victims now". As you speak, your aura unfurls, robotic tools manifesting. Some of them start reshaping the surgical tables, cabinets and other easily replaced objects into a watertight amphibious trailer. Others assist your father and Lydia in preparing everything you can see for transport.

-[x]Crown question: Who is the ultimate mastermind behind all this?
In case this was a project masterminded by some middle management, or even this guy we killed, I modified the question to ask "who benefits?".
 
COMMENTARY
-The transparent dude with a fetus inside him was the boss here? Didnt look like most Fomor sorcerers.
Seems very much like he's been experimenting on himself as well as his victims.
Maybe he used some of that gossamer on himself.

-So no slaves to rescue because this asshole apparently turned all of them into thralls.
And no gossamer because he used it all up.
<RHYS! GIVE ME BACK MY GOSSAMER>
Still some intelligence files, so not a total loss.

-Oh wow. Magically tainted diet supplements and weight loss pills.
Now thats the stuff of nightmares for any magically-aware parent of a teenage girl. And many teenage boys, actually.
They really did try to go full Pentex. And Pemtex is one of the things that made WoD as black as it is.

Poor Michael is never gonna take a dietary supplement again.

-Question worth asking is whether those thralls are still human/mortal.
Or if the human is dead and there's basically a homunculus in its place with memories of who the mortal used to be.
Worth seeing what the files say. Or we could burn a Crown question to ask.

-We should probably use either Niemi or Rhys as a focus for figuring out who runs the Fomor with a Crown question.
Just like we did with Gorfels. Some people need to go on our shit list and stay there.
Alternatively, Niemi AND Rhys. Different questions. Depending on if we have the motes to spare.
So that "fuck this project, you are not getting anything done ever" charm is looking awfully attractive, right now.
We'd have to keep recasting it at the beginning of every story arc.
Can wait a couple months I guess. Just keep an arcane link from here to use as a focus.

Far more important imo is a sensory charm.
Hellscry Chakra moved up the list of importance.
So did All Things Betray.

I have not calculated it yet, but I think it will come out to at least 20, probably more.
Boiling Oil Mastery 4xp
Mercy in Servitude 4xp
Transcendent Lord of Flies 4xp
Rendered Villain Dispersal 4xp
Ox Body Technique 3xp

Hellscry Chakra 8xp
All Things Betray 8xp
Wind-Born Stride 8xp

Empathy 4 3xp
Etiquette 4 3xp
Athletics 2 2xp
Technology 2 2xp

Lets see what we can afford.
 
I have not calculated it yet, but I think it will come out to at least 20, probably more.



Accomplishments

  • Had your needs taken care of at a brothel well still living under Charity's roof.
  • Told your parents about killing someone
  • Gained a god blooded exalted for your party
  • Discovered general details about Daedalus
  • Rolled over the FDA and picked up a contact inside.
  • Got Jack the reporter as a contact.
  • Discovered the activities of a Raksha and found it's story
  • Terrorized a red court vampire Andre.
  • Convinced a scared individual online to open up to you.
  • Convinced the cops that you are very uncool as well as other investigation
  • Make the disturbing discovery that you look like your Mom when disguising as a building inspector.
  • Defeat the mental wards at Soul's rest.
  • Rescue Ruth Koskinen from certain death.
  • Terrifying a nurse into unconsciousness and likely been a life changing experience for her.
  • Non-lethally beat a wall crawling security guard
  • Cut your way to the basement
  • Beat a Raksha well making it look easy
  • Looted gossamer
  • Beat the wolverine clone
  • Beat the rest of the guards non-lethally besides the sorcerer.
  • Saved the people being experimented on
  • More later.

Possible extra accomplishments we might do this arc

  • Discover about the red court by bugged Andre's phone.
 
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COMMENTARY
-The transparent dude with a fetus inside him was the boss here? Didnt look like most Fomor sorcerers.
Seems very much like he's been experimenting on himself as well as his victims.
Maybe he used some of that gossamer on himself.

-So no slaves to rescue because this asshole apparently turned all of them into thralls.
And no gossamer because he used it all up.
<RHYS! GIVE ME BACK MY GOSSAMER>
Still some intelligence files, so not a total loss.

-Oh wow. Magically tainted diet supplements and weight loss pills.
Now thats the stuff of nightmares for any magically-aware parent of a teenage girl. And many teenage boys, actually.
They really did try to go full Pentex. And Pemtex is one of the things that made WoD as black as it is.

Poor Michael is never gonna take a dietary supplement again.

-Question worth asking is whether those thralls are still human/mortal.
Or if the human is dead and there's basically a homunculus in its place with memories of who the mortal used to be.
Worth seeing what the files say. Or we could burn a Crown question to ask.

-We should probably use either Niemi or Rhys as a focus for figuring out who runs the Fomor with a Crown question.
Just like we did with Gorfels. Some people need to go on our shit list and stay there.
Alternatively, Niemi AND Rhys. Different questions. Depending on if we have the motes to spare.

We'd have to keep recasting it at the beginning of every story arc.
Can wait a couple months I guess. Just keep an arcane link from here to use as a focus.

Far more important imo is a sensory charm.
Hellscry Chakra moved up the list of importance.
So did All Things Betray.


Boiling Oil Mastery 4xp
Mercy in Servitude 4xp
Transcendent Lord of Flies 4xp
Rendered Villain Dispersal 4xp
Ox Body Technique 3xp

Hellscry Chakra 8xp
All Things Betray 8xp
Wind-Born Stride 8xp

Empathy 4 3xp
Etiquette 4 3xp
Athletics 2 2xp
Technology 2 2xp

Lets see what we can afford.
Don't forget 4 XP for a Technology Excellency. That's definitely on my wishlist. Don't expect to get it, given what else needs buying, but it's still something I want.
 
I am inclined to get Ego-Inffused Pattern Primacy. This is not the first time we were hit with magic and we are "weak" to it.

So getting some anti-magic and anti-death curse charm will only help.

It is 20xp but we really need it, and it is useful considering we also heal agg damage at 1 hlvl per hour.

System: Whenever the character is the subject of any supernatural power that seeks to transform, infect, taint, transport, or control her body or spirit, she may reflexively spend 1 Essence or 1 Willpower and roll Willpower against difficulty 7. Success undoes the hostile magic before it can finish affecting the Infernal, protecting her completely, and immunizes her against repeated attempts to exert the same sort of influence for the rest of the scene.

Alternately, the Infernal can spend 1 Essence to radically accelerate her healing for 24 hours. So long as she takes no strenuous activity, the Infernal heals all bashing damage or one level of lethal damage per 15 minutes of rest. An hour of rest mends one level of aggravated damage.
 
I am inclined to get Ego-Inffused Pattern Primacy. This is not the first time we were hit with magic and we are "weak" to it.

So getting some anti-magic and anti-death curse charm will only help.

It is 20xp but we really need it, and it is useful considering we also heal agg damage at 1 hlvl per hour.
20 XP is a really big buy when we have a bit of native counter magic.

Also many of the proposed charms would have helped with this death curse.

Boiling Oil Mastery: Would how helped our counter magic in the water. Or when we are covered in blood which has been most big fights so far.
Rendered Villain Dispersal: Given a moment of warning it can be used as a dodge.
Ox Body Technique: more health works with a lot death curse which just focus on the death part.

Wind-Born Stride: Get out of the area quickly

But also there is the fact that we are an Infernal. Many death curses done by people who don't understand our nature might not even be much of a inconvenience to us. "May you suffer endless pain" would be hell for most people but we would barely notice that.

Also many death curses are going to just focus on the death part rather than try and be fancy. Which we should often be able to tank.

Most importantly though spending all our XP to make ourselves invincible rather than allowing us to do cool things is getting lame.
 
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COMMENTARY
-The transparent dude with a fetus inside him was the boss here? Didnt look like most Fomor sorcerers.
Seems very much like he's been experimenting on himself as well as his victims.
Maybe he used some of that gossamer on himself.

-So no slaves to rescue because this asshole apparently turned all of them into thralls.
And no gossamer because he used it all up.
<RHYS! GIVE ME BACK MY GOSSAMER>
Still some intelligence files, so not a total loss.

-Oh wow. Magically tainted diet supplements and weight loss pills.
Now thats the stuff of nightmares for any magically-aware parent of a teenage girl. And many teenage boys, actually.
They really did try to go full Pentex. And Pemtex is one of the things that made WoD as black as it is.

Poor Michael is never gonna take a dietary supplement again.

-Question worth asking is whether those thralls are still human/mortal.
Or if the human is dead and there's basically a homunculus in its place with memories of who the mortal used to be.
Worth seeing what the files say. Or we could burn a Crown question to ask.

-We should probably use either Niemi or Rhys as a focus for figuring out who runs the Fomor with a Crown question.
Just like we did with Gorfels. Some people need to go on our shit list and stay there.
Alternatively, Niemi AND Rhys. Different questions. Depending on if we have the motes to spare.

We'd have to keep recasting it at the beginning of every story arc.
Can wait a couple months I guess. Just keep an arcane link from here to use as a focus.

Far more important imo is a sensory charm.
Hellscry Chakra moved up the list of importance.
So did All Things Betray.


Boiling Oil Mastery 4xp
Mercy in Servitude 4xp
Transcendent Lord of Flies 4xp
Rendered Villain Dispersal 4xp
Ox Body Technique 3xp

Hellscry Chakra 8xp
All Things Betray 8xp
Wind-Born Stride 8xp

Empathy 4 3xp
Etiquette 4 3xp
Athletics 2 2xp
Technology 2 2xp

Lets see what we can afford.

As far as Molly can tell the thralls which were so modified are still human, certainly once there is no sorcerer to control them some of them seem inclined to take revenge for their state. But there appears to be significant mental degradation and a spike in aggression even in the best case. the frogman Lydia helped to pass on was not even capable of speech anymore. In a bit of painful irony clarity grew with the nearness of death as the soul no longer had to function on the warped hardware of the altered brain.
 
[X] Let the Vampires go
-[X] You are not going to betray your allies no matter how distasteful
-[X] Usum is right, you still have all that contact information
-[X] Stunt: Covered in blood, and cluthing a sword of brass and hellfire, your back is straight and posture regal, as you speak, no, declare your decision and their fate: "Go now, and know, that on this night, I hold np grudge against you and yours and will remember your service here. When our paths cross again, as long as no innocent is suffering from your actions, I do not foresee myself pronouncing judgement upon you"

Let's leave them with an inpression that we can see potential futures.
yog I really really want to genocide their species like canon and its literally not in their nature to change ghouls at the very least can feel stuff like pity and have human in them still and can be managed. Plus they are still very much at war with the white council for christ sakes. Best case scenario if we get some under us we are now looked at as potential enemies of the white council.
 
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do we get exp for intimidating red court enough they didn't pick a fight with us? Cause thats down right difficult.
Basically every interaction with them was worth XP. Intimidating them to the point that they decided not to betray us. Lead them into battle effectively and then letting them go to spread tales about us.

Also tanking a death curse can't forget that.
 
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Just realized I forgot to vote:
You cannot learn apprentice alchemy from the stuff it is too advanced, but once you get to 3 dots, it would grand you a 50% discount on the XP you pay for the forth dot.
I have my personal doubts about how much of this stuff is transportable in Michael's truckbed which will be parked in a public parking space, or where Molly would stash it safely away from the jawas of the Carpenter household.
Maybe Lydia has a storage space at home where we can stash this stuff.

But I assume the woman on the spot can determine how much can be moved in safety.


VOTE
[X] Try to strip as much equipment and arcane machinery as you can out of the base
-[X]Tool Constructs if necessary: -1 WP
-[X]Cremate human/mutated human bodies if time available
-[X]Crown of Eyes: Rhys the Ragged's face/body or quarters: Identities of the rulers of Fomori society: -1 Essence
-[X]Crown of Eyes: Dr Niemi's face/body: Pathfinder network of holdings/assets: -1 Essence
-[X]Crown of Eyes: Lydia's frogman: Structure of the society of those(Fomori) who enslaved him: -1 Essence

Total: -3 Essence, -1WP


We have 6/12 Essence and 5/7 WP.
Thats enough Essence to afford us some Crown questions, and give Molly some IC warning of the dimensions of the Fomori threat.

Its unfortunate we didnt recover any gossamer we could leave with the ghosts of Euclid Beach to solidify their sanctum/fetter thing, but them's the breaks.
Maybe leaving the submersible behind will have enough magic resonance to count.
 
I have my personal doubts about how much of this stuff is transportable in Michael's truckbed which will be parked in a public parking space, or where Molly would stash it safely away from the jawas of the Carpenter household.
Maybe Lydia has a storage space at home where we can stash this stuff.

But I assume the woman on the spot can determine how much can be moved in safety.
Once we get transcendent lord of the flies I think that Molly might start spending a lot of time in undertown. With that charm taking care of her basic needs is easier in under town then it is in her parents house and we have big project down their in any case.

Also why are people interested in
Opening her inner eye and attuning it to spiritual desolation, the Infernal gains the ability to detect potential servants or rivals, and to weigh the souls of those she meets. System: Reflexively spend 1 Essence. For the rest of the scene, the Infernal becomes aware when she stands in the presence of any creature of darkness, though she doesn't inherently know what sort of supernatural being any given individual may be. Furthermore, by concentrating on a specific individual for a few moments and making a successful Perception + Occult roll against difficulty 6, she can behold the subtleties of their anima and learn their current emotional state, as well as some clues about their nature. If you wish to embellish this with aura colors and the like, a chart can be found on page 136 of V20.
From just that it doesn't seem that interesting. We usually can identify most creatures of darkness with just empathy and occult rolls.
 
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