Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
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could be indicative they weren't always nevernever beings like the fae though honestly maybe the faes well faeness is just special in some variety for why their still so close to the mortal world.
JayTar
Idea briefcase
So some thoughts I accumulated while catching up:
I remember reading some very interesting comments on using Tool Constructs to make gemstones. An idea occurred to me though: Has there been any discussion on instead creating the machines that make gemstones? Use our tools to make tools as it were. They wouldn't benefit from the 5x speed multiplier, but they also wouldn't require us to babysit them for days.
Diamonds might be harder but a machine for making sapphire could be nothing more then a highly specialized and precise forge.
For that matter, has there been discussion about using Tool Constructs for chemistry? The sheer number of things that we could make is crazy.
Yes that is true for other sorts of crafting too.
But have you considered what we could make out of thin air. Well not just thin air. We would need some water too for hydrogen.
Chemistry is at its base the ability to turn one pile of elements into another pile of the same elements in a different configuration. And modern chemical plants do so at a terrifying rate. Thousands of tons per a day. With our tools we could process as fast as we can get our hands on the base ingredients.
I guess we may need a level in Science to do so, but a single level is pretty cheap right? Chemistry isn't exactly the sort of thing with much need for over-achievement.
Same thing with Medicine. Being able to patch together our allies if they get hurt for lack of a consequence free magical healing method would work pretty well. Speed surgery with Tool Constructs would be pretty cool too. Both for style points and because time is critically important in emergency medicine. "This operation would normally take thirty minutes, but your going to bleed out in ten so I'll be done in six".
I remember reading some very interesting comments on using Tool Constructs to make gemstones. An idea occurred to me though: Has there been any discussion on instead creating the machines that make gemstones? Use our tools to make tools as it were. They wouldn't benefit from the 5x speed multiplier, but they also wouldn't require us to babysit them for days.
Diamonds might be harder but a machine for making sapphire could be nothing more then a highly specialized and precise forge.
For that matter, has there been discussion about using Tool Constructs for chemistry? The sheer number of things that we could make is crazy.
Yes that is true for other sorts of crafting too.
But have you considered what we could make out of thin air. Well not just thin air. We would need some water too for hydrogen.
Chemistry is at its base the ability to turn one pile of elements into another pile of the same elements in a different configuration. And modern chemical plants do so at a terrifying rate. Thousands of tons per a day. With our tools we could process as fast as we can get our hands on the base ingredients.
I guess we may need a level in Science to do so, but a single level is pretty cheap right? Chemistry isn't exactly the sort of thing with much need for over-achievement.
Same thing with Medicine. Being able to patch together our allies if they get hurt for lack of a consequence free magical healing method would work pretty well. Speed surgery with Tool Constructs would be pretty cool too. Both for style points and because time is critically important in emergency medicine. "This operation would normally take thirty minutes, but your going to bleed out in ten so I'll be done in six".
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Can we create a thing that grows gems in a way that allows them to be imperfect so that if you had it appraised it would look like a natural gem?
I'm pretty sure the canon is that super ghouls are the straight nevernever variety, and that sometimes they rape people without killing them after, which results in a first generation "mortal" ghoul that actually leaves a corpse when killed. Which eventually can grow into full lineages of their own.
You can't cure a ghoul because it isn't a disease, it's what they are.
Turning them into bakemono might be enough to curb their appetite, but that's just trading afflictions not returning them to some hypothetical healthy baseline.
-Industrial machinery is huge, specialized and expensive. Noone buys any without a warranty and a service contract.
-However, useful drugs and chemicals all have a rigorous and complicated inspection and regulation scheme for producers and buyers/resellers. Those are standards that Molly cannot meet, because when asked about an inspection of her production facilities, she doesnt have any.
-The most common chemistry projects we can work are illegal pharmaceuticals like fentanyl and meth, which are incredibly profitable per gram, but which Molly has ethical and personal objections to. Plus, she then has to deal with organized crime.
Not really her thing.
-Yes, we can use Tool Constructs for surgery. We are trying to avoid the need though.
Unlikely. The same caveats about industrial equipment apply.
We can probably handmake batches of artificial gems that are indistinguishable from natural gems though.
Ghouls are basically the victims of a single mechanical Flaw. ~2 point Flaw I think.
Mercy in Servitude probably works to put the appetite in check. Might be able to pass on a Merit with VED.
But ultimately doing anything for a group of ghouls is probably a subplot in its own right, mechanically represented by a terrestrial level sorcerous working as per 3E.
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I don't think the need for massive amounts of meat and strong pressure to get some of it from humans is a 2 point flaw.
That seems more like a massive issue.
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Uh factories and industrial equipment is insanely complicated with a whole buncha moving parts. Not to mention even now we don't really have full automated labs for something like chips. I think its vastly easier to conjure up the industrial equipment than to make it from other tools.
I mean, we could sell to North Korea, Iran and the like. Like, we could make tens of billions at the very least by making a cutting edge chip fabber and selling it to North Korea or Iran.
Could also make pretty good money by manufacturing custom vacuum chambers on demand (yeah, I know, I am coming from my own job's perspective). No service needed there, and it's craft metal, not technology (I think). Cryostats and the like too, for that matter, now that I think about it. Custom built vacuum chambers easily go for at least hundreds of thousands of dollars. More advanced (with more flanges and precision axis alignment) or larger ones for millions. You'd need very clean room equipment, electron gun welding, double or even triple layered walls, special steels, etc.
We could make good money in scientific equipment, and in sectors where no service is expected, now that I think of it.
Its not a need, its a want.
Some sort of magic hyperphagia curse/flaw/compulsion to eat a lot of meat, preferably human. There's no indication they need it to live, and we know there are a significant number of ghouls, enough that Red Court use them as mercs.
So yeah. 2 point flaw.
Maybe 1 point.
1)Iran, NK and the like want warranties and service contracts too. Else they are taking stuff on faith that you arent a Western intelligence plot to sabotage their industrial capability and simultaneously drain their forex reserves. If a part fails they are stuck trying to wrangle a very expensive paperweight.
And the components of a chip fabber are in the hundreds or thousands of tons of hardware. Not precisely stuff thats easy to move.
Furthermore, they cant pay us easily.
Their access to the world financial system is limited and heavily monitored.
2)We have no bona fides. No references.
People dont commission six to ten figure plus expenditures of industrial and scientific equipment to unknown figures with no references. Not unless its part of an embezzlement scheme.
This, at least, can be addressed - they can pay in gold.
Wait. Gold. The Merchant Royal. An undiscovered shipwreck carrying 1.5 billion in gold bullion. Waiting at the bottom of the sea. No supernatural stuff. Just a lost ship. Rent a ship, and swim down to grab the gold. We just need to fill the diving suit with Clorox so we don't have to worry about oxygen.
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Boiling Sea Mastery takes care of that.
Would also enhance our swim-speed and makes everything easier while we are wet.
Another good, cheap Charm for rounding out our build soon.
Edit: it also takes care of any pressure-issues while deep-diving.
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Which is why the latest ides might well be ideal. It's a one-off action that nets us close to a billion dollars, thus solving our money issues forever.Not sure about others but I want to play the Invincible Sword Princess, not Capitalism Ho.
Remember people fretting about drawing attention from a measly two hundred million dollar lottery?
Imagine the attention from recovering a billion and half of gold bullion, plus all the rest in silver and pieces of eight .
And doing so by having Molly free dive in deep water, despite no previous experience.
We already have attention of FBI on us. And this is actually quite legit. The only question would be "how did she get the gold out".
In principle, we could use lottery money to fund the actual expedition to legit lift the treasure out. This would solve all the issues."I went diving in open waters on my joyride after winning a lottery and found a sunken treasure ship" is a tale of unbelievable luck, but nothing more.
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in fairness many nevernever species probably have a human origin even if they are in no way human now. Not that I think we're capable of anything like curing them.
JayTar
Idea briefcase
Ah, I must have misspoke. In respect to gemstones I didn't mean: Make Industrial machinery -> sell Industrial machinery.
I meant: Make Industrial machinery -> use Industrial machinery to make things -> sell things
That way we could make gemstones without having to personally hand-craft each one. We would just start the process and then collect the results a while later.
Presumably it would be after we have a base with a decent electrical grid connection.
That said, you now have me thinking. Perhaps there would be a market to sell machinery to people with magic? How much would a wizard pay for a set of masterwork clockwork power tools that don't break down every hour of usage?
The other thought would be to mimic Industrial machinery with tool constructs for chemical production to make chemicals for our own personal use. Ie, why buy bleach when we could make it on the spot as necessary. Or any other material, poison, explosive, or thing we need. A convenience and versatility thing, not a moneymaking idea. For example: Laughing gas is made of the same atoms as air, we could make an arbitrary amount of it on the spot.
As for avoiding the need for surgery, well that's not really something we can be sure about can we?