Good night guys.
It works on things that eat mortals, but has a clause for basically begging the god for a pass.We might want to be careful with that poison dust idea. It looks like the effects would work on the White Court and other entities. If word gets out that interacting with Molly will not only hurt you but bring magical ruin down upon you, that might be enought to get multiple vampire Courts acting against us in concert.
Remember the golden rule in Exalted is not 'can I do this?', it is 'will I like the consequences of doing this?'
Sorry, scatter brained because I'm multitasking. I'm still not sure if this is supposed to be our only splendor action for the fortress or if we got an additional one from that roll. If this is our only one I think it should be a Hungry Earth variant. If it's an additional build I think there are good internal defense options.Are you wanting us to make the Hungry Earth Splendor or are you advocating for something else to be made right now? We have time for one Splendor and you presented the HE one for Mallko earlier but presented two more recently.
Sorry, scatter brained because I'm multitasking. I'm still not sure if this is supposed to be our only splendor action for the fortress or if we got an additional one from that roll. If this is our only one I think it should be a Hungry Earth variant. If it's an additional build I think there are good internal defense options.
For now that is what we have time for. If you want HE you should vote for it.
Yeah, but we explicitly told this was a bonus from the roll for the fortress and the plan vote had a Mallko splendor in it. One we'd talk with him about first to make sure he's okay with using it. REH is only useful if he's the one applying the thing.For now that is what we have time for. If you want HE you should vote for it.
The plan didn't have a Mallko Splendor in it. It said to start thinking about Splendors and the 'system text' says we have time for one Splendor. It seems to me that if we didn't roll well enough to create the spirit in one sitting we wouldn't have had time for any Splendor action at all on the rest of this one AP.Yeah, but we explicitly told this was a bonus from the roll for the fortress and the plan vote had a Mallko splendor in it. One we'd talk with him about first to make sure he's okay with using it. REH is only useful if he's the one applying the thing.
It's a response to what you said because it explains how the protectionwould work. In order for Reds to attack our facilities Earthside, or to go through the portal they have to either recognize the portal and facilities themselves (i.e. be able to see a fort and say "yes, this is a fort, I should attack it"), or bomb the whole area. This covers the first vector of the attack. It leaves the second one (bomb the whole area) open, but that's for the second later of defenses. I'll rework the category that's being forgotten as "things other than native flora and fauna existing within the area of effect of the spelndor". It is, in essence, large scale area of effect ATP, basically. Only perfect, no saving throws and no resisting it.That.. isn't really a response to what I said? I'm not entirely sure how this would function either. Humans don't normally see magic and come to the conclusion that it's magic in Dresden Files. Like Daedalus.
I don't understand what you mean, sorry.
Yes, exactly. It prevents anyone affected (which extends to those seeing it from afar) from remembering that there's anything but normal mortal earth wilderness in the area.I think the idea is that the flowers make the vampire forget that there is a base to attack whenever they wander in. Maybe
I knew what you said it'd do I'm just not seeing how that would matter much considering that the Reds have the portals location and know of it already and directed people to kamikaze us. It just seems underwhelming compared to the more proactive one that BronzeTongue made.
We only have time for a single Splendor. That's what the vote is for.Give me an hour or two, and I'll propose the plan for layered defenses.
How would reds attack us and the portal if, by being within a block or two of the portal, they forget that the portal exists, and cannot notice it when seeing it? They would know the area, yes. What next?I knew what you said it'd do I'm just not seeing how that would matter much considering that the Reds have the portals location and know of it already and directed people to kamikaze us. It just seems underwhelming compared to the more proactive one that BronzeTongue made.
Also I think you need to get this approved by DP because we've had ATP fail on us before but you are saying that it'd be a perfect effect with no way to resist.
It's to provide context. I am making my vote with full understanding that it's only the start of fortifications.We only have time for a single Splendor. That's what the vote is for.
The kamikaze tactic that they just tried for starters. Yog, I really think you should get DP's approval for a Splendor that in your own words would basically be ATP but non resistable and a perfect effect. Especially since we've seen our own ATP get no sold before when most thought it wasn't possible for it to be sidestepped the way it was.How would reds attack us and the portal if, by being within a block or two of the portal, they forget that the portal exists, and cannot notice it when seeing it? They would know the area, yes. What next?
I'm not sure if doing that makes sense to be honest because any proposed plan like that isn't going to be carried out this Turn but feel free to make a detailed argument around one for what we are voting to do right now instead of months later I guess?It's to provide context. I am making my vote with full understanding that it's only the start of fortifications.
By typing a set of numbers on the keyboard of bombs that will fly to our base or to the flowers, yes. I'm sorry, but forgetfulness is too weak a power for a base. Especially when it's not the Fidelius from Harry Potter, but just a forgetfulness field around a point.How would reds attack us and the portal if, by being within a block or two of the portal, they forget that the portal exists, and cannot notice it when seeing it? They would know the area, yes. What next?
Kamikaze tactics how? They know general location. Yes, they can firebomb the whole area. Drop large scale bombs, up to and including nukes. But other than that?
If you are going to ignore parts of my post am I actually obligated to continue this discussion?Kamikaze tactics how? They know general location. Yes, they can firebomb the whole area. Drop large scale bombs, up to and including nukes. But other than that?
You have several parts in your response: the proposal that Red Court can use kamikaze tactics, the request that I talk to DragonParadox about my proposal, and a comment about how long-term plan isn't relevant to the discussion now. The only part of your response I can talk to you about meaningfully right now is the first of those three. What else do you want me to reply to you about? When I get my layered defense plan ready, I'll post it, and ping DragonParadox to review it both as a whole and as separate proposals. That covers your second and third point. I can, however, keep discussing your first point with you while I am preparing the designs.If you are going to ignore parts of my post am I actually obligated to continue this discussion?
You didn't disprove that they can use kamikaze tactics like the one they just tried. Which is the only part of my post you responded to. @Ivar gave another attack avenue example that would almost invalidate this hiding in plain sight Splendor.You have several parts in your response: the proposal that Red Court can use kamikaze tactics, the request that I talk to DragonParadox about my proposal, and a comment about how long-term plan isn't relevant to the discussion now. The only part of your response I can talk to you about meaningfully right now is the first of those three. What else do you want me to reply to you about? When I get my layered defense plan ready, I'll post it, and ping DragonParadox to review it both as a whole and as separate proposals. That covers your second and third point. I can, however, keep discussing your first point with you while I am preparing the designs.
Yog, tell me, does Splendor erase records of our base, does it erase videos of our base, does it erase the memory of our base from people who have not visited the field around the base, does it erase geographical maps, does it protect against satellite surveillance, is it able to make people not come up with roundabout word games to talk about our base? And not only that, but can it influence computers? Does it make our base physically invisible from afar?You have several parts in your response: the proposal that Red Court can use kamikaze tactics, the request that I talk to DragonParadox about my proposal, and a comment about how long-term plan isn't relevant to the discussion now. The only part of your response I can talk to you about meaningfully right now is the first of those three. What else do you want me to reply to you about? When I get my layered defense plan ready, I'll post it, and ping DragonParadox to review it both as a whole and as separate proposals. That covers your second and third point. I can, however, keep discussing your first point with you while I am preparing the designs.
I will repreat myself. Kamikaze tactics how? What do you mean when you say "kamikaze tactics"? How would they be implemented? I cannot respond to your assertion without it being explained to me. I am not on the same page as you.You didn't disprove that they can use kamikaze tactics like the one they just tried. Which is the only part of my post you responded to.
Satellite surveillance and real time observation through cameras it should work on. Viewing records afterwards, probably not. I am not sure why maps or records are relevant at all, because no records should exist at the moment. I am also unsure about what you mean about clever word games. Computers are probably an edge case.Yog, tell me, does Splendor erase records of our base, does it erase videos of our base, does it erase the memory of our base from people who have not visited the field around the base, does it erase geographical maps, does it protect against satellite surveillance, is it able to make people not come up with roundabout word games to talk about our base? And not only that, but can it influence computers? Does it make our base physically invisible from afar?
As I said repeatedly. Like the one they just tried. Onscreen.I cannot respond to your assertion without it being explained to me. I am not on the same page as you.
Dude you really need this thing approved. They shouldn't even be in the splendors range at that point how is it going to affect long range means of observation? Unless your saying it's range would be planetary but then that brings me to this needing approval because that doesn't sound balanced from a single Splendor.Satellite surveillance and real time observation through cameras it should work on.