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@DragonParadox how much essence does Lydia have remaining, is she already running Rest-Granting Strike in "can damage spirits" mode, and does the magic fungus count as a spirit?
DragonParadox said:
You were speaking Primordial at the time so as not to be misunderstood
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This backfried on me, badly. And seems to be my genuine very bad. Though I would think double meaning here still works, even in primordial. But ok. Just means we need to kill Hollow Man here.
 
Yog said:
@DragonParadox how much essence does Lydia have remaining, is she already running Rest-Granting Strike in "can damage spirits" mode, and does the magic fungus count as a spirit?

This backfried on me, badly. And seems to be my genuine very bad. Though I would think double meaning here still works, even in primordial. But ok. Just means we need to kill Hollow Man here.
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  1. It does not, she is presently at 5/7
  2. It does, the problem is Primordial simply has you say both things at the same time, instead of one that could be interpreted in both ways. It is a language designed to get fundamentally incompatible beings to communicate, not to play games of double meaning.
 
DragonParadox said:
Hear me, oh angel, and by the flames of my Crown know this to be true - you are mistaken, for none under your charge are roused by my words. My and mine alone is the power invoked."
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Even in primordial wouldn't that be" by the signal or pulse of our authority/ right of rulership Know this statement to be factual. It is by my singular power that this effect is invoked." unless we went explicit on what the signal of our Crown was doing they can only take it in so many different ways and intellectus wouldn't be the first one it monarchs swearing on their Crown even if it is a ephemeral flame of eyes seemingly seeing in all directions isn't too far of a jump.

Edit: dragon ninja
 
DragonParadox said:
Hear me, oh angel, and by the flames of my Crown know this to be true - you are mistaken, for none under your charge are roused by my words. My and mine alone is the power invoked."
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I should have been paying more attention, would have called this out as suicidally stupid. The angel didn't need to be told to see what we were doing, but everyone else here just got a primordial description of our greatest secret.

Really showing the Outside was probably a bad call as well even if we hadn't done that.

Strategically they're doing quite well for themselves all things considered. This whole endeavor was going to cost them, but for the price of stuff they were going to lose anyway they've picked up valuable information to exploit in round 2.
 
Well, then we'll have to do our best to kill Hollow Man completely and make sure not a shred of him escape to relay the news.

On the other hand, what's the worst thing they can do knowing Molly can scry anything given sufficient focus? Leaking it to wizards achieves nothing, because they have no requirement to trust Outsiders; they can't hide anyway from what I understand about the Crown; denial of foci will only go as far as limiting us to corpses or other things they cause.
 
Mithrill said:
Well, then we'll have to do our best to kill Hollow Man completely and make sure not a shred of him escape to relay the news.

On the other hand, what's the worst thing they can do knowing Molly can scry anything given sufficient focus? Leaking it to wizards achieves nothing, because they have no requirement to trust Outsiders; they can't hide anyway from what I understand about the Crown; denial of foci will only go as far as limiting us to corpses or other things they cause.
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denial of foci is almost impossible.
 
DragonParadox said:
Well yes, but not 'could be one or the other', double in the case of 'is both'. This is a language designed with transmit what would to mortals be contradictory insight without confusion
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Since the point of the vote was to be deceptive and @Yog just didn't realize what language we'd default to in the scene could we get a subterfuge roll or something to only communicate the first message instead?

This is a major screw up that only happened because of a misunderstanding inverting the intent of the plan.
 
Pursuer of Diligent Scholarship
Has Shadows at Dawn
Shadows at Dawn (Level Two) — Sometimes, one must give information to get information. However, Uktena are notoriously tightfisted with secrets. With this Gift, the werewolf can share a bit of knowledge that later vanishes from the subject's memory. An ancestor-spirit teaches this Gift.
System: After relating a bit of lore, the player rolls Wits + Subterfuge (difficulty of the opponent's Wits + Subterfuge). If the roll succeeds, whatever information the Uktena imparts completely vanishes from the target's memory when the sun next rises.
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and since our clones count as us we can get this information away from the Merlin and Ebenezer. We just need to Super Hyper kill the Hollow man then the information leak will be mostly sanitized.
 
BronzeTongue said:
Since the point of the vote was to be deceptive and @Yog just didn't realize what language we'd default to in the scene could we get a subterfuge roll or something to only communicate the first message instead?

This is a major screw up that only happened because of a misunderstanding inverting the intent of the plan.
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You know what, sure. You could just say it in English, the angel speaks English.

One moment while I edit and collapse asleep on my keyboard :V
 
god we better be making an absurd amount of exp. So guys I asked this once but basically no one said anything. When this arc mostly peters out and calms down should we instead of stopping go to our hell or get some bleach or something and regenerate essence for like 7 hours or something? Before we go out hunting for the enemies of ours who've gotten away or should we just end things and let our enemies settle and reorganize?
 
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So our problem with a little misunderstanding is solved....And I hope we will still be able to minimize our problems. I don't know how this dialogue will be interpreted in terms of what Molly meant. But I know that from the outside it looks like either Molly has the power to know things that the Angels don't know or has the ability to convince them on the level of arguments "Just trust me bro"
 
BronzeTongue said:
Since the point of the vote was to be deceptive and @Yog just didn't realize what language we'd default to in the scene could we get a subterfuge roll or something to only communicate the first message instead?

This is a major screw up that only happened because of a misunderstanding inverting the intent of the plan.
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DragonParadox said:
You know what, sure. You could just say it in English, the angel speaks English.

One moment while I edit and collapse asleep on my keyboard :V
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I sincerely and deeply apologize.
 
No? Anyone? Seriously its a fairly important question whether people are tired and so will commit to not committing. Or instead we can go take a several hour break and then go smash in more skulls after using focuses to find them before they go further into hiding.
 
firefrog600 said:
No? Anyone? Seriously its a fairly important question whether people are tired and so will commit to not committing. Or instead we can go take a several hour break and then go smash in more skulls after using focuses to find them before they go further into hiding.
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Only 1 mote at the moment, unless luck into a bunch of secrets, Molly is out of the fight for a least an hour.
 
Earth-Destroyer said:
Only 1 mote at the moment, unless luck into a bunch of secrets, Molly is out of the fight for a least an hour.
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yes? that literally exactly what I said though. Once things peter out we take several hours possibly more to regenerate and then go out hunting. A bleach bath would do it after all.

Instead of you know going home and just waiting for said enemies to come up again we be proactive.
 
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[X] Let the wizards handle it, as long as their magic does not directly touch the stuff they should be fine
-[X] Warn them of the nature and danger of the thing inside it

I think there might be something clever to do with either Lydia (Rest-Granting Strike + Chariot of the Earth on the canister?) or maybe blackstuff, or maybe Lydia trying to Command the Dead on the fungus. It's necrotech, isn't it? Or maybe not. But I am also tired, it's 1:30 AM, and I have barely dodged screwing us all up by the benevolence of our very merciful GM, so I think I'm going to step back here a bit.

I am definitely glad we did what we did, though. Hollow Man went big, and screwed up. I think he might not be able to actually let us take the Labyrinth, and now with SSC going strong (and it was definitely changed from canon a bit, I think to simplify having to roll each turn?), and with our reinforcements, he might genuinely be screwed. We need to finish him off. Then True Magi become much easier to mop up.
 
firefrog600 said:
instead we can go take a several hour break and then go smash in more skulls after using focuses to find them before they go further into hiding.
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Yeah I was really thinking like a 3-hour break because we would regenerate six Essence in that time the Sun will have risen it'll be literally the crack of dawn then we'll have seven more Essence on top of that which brings us back up to 13 or 14 if we don't spend an additional Essence here.

At which point we wrap up the spree by just hitting them one after the other after the other probably using the same method we used to get at Shaw because not all of them are aware that anything is going on yet.

DragonParadox said:
13 in sundry other Nevernever realms 0 aware
1 No Name Always Aware, always knows, Almost? Outside.

Material World
7 in the Hidden Halls 2 Aware (One is Peabody)
9 in the in Central and South America 1 Aware
5 in Europe 1 Aware
12 in Africa 1 Aware
6 in Asia 1 Aware
1 in Australia 0 Aware
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Going down the list we are hitting, No Name Always Aware 1, we have already cleared Australia 2 and the Hidden halls(One Warlock Teleported out) 8, so we have 28 left to go. 13 in nevernever realms but 15 in the real world only 5 of which know anything is wrong yet and with their communication hub being killed (Hollow Man/Labyrinth) they have no means to coordinate response. If they would do so in the first place instead of all going to ground separately in holes like a rats they are.
 
Degorium said:
Yeah I was really thinking like a 3-hour break because we would regenerate six Essence in that time the Sun will have risen it'll be literally the crack of dawn then we'll have seven more Essence on top of that which brings us back up to 13 or 14 if we don't spend an additional Essence here.

At which point we wrap up the spree by just hitting them one after the other after the other probably using the same method we used to get at Shaw because not all of them are aware that anything is going on yet.


Going down the list we are hitting, No Name Always Aware 1, we have already cleared Australia 2 and the Hidden halls(One Warlock Teleported out) 8, so we have 28 left to go. 13 in nevernever realms but 15 in the real world only 5 of which know anything is wrong yet and with their communication hub being killed (Hollow Man/Labyrinth) they have no means to coordinate response. If they would do so in the first place instead of all going to ground separately in holes like a rats they are.
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yeah and probably crown questions about plans they had that are still active that we need to stop.
 
Degorium said:
Going down the list we are hitting, No Name Always Aware 1, we have already cleared Australia 2 and the Hidden halls(One Warlock Teleported out) 8, so we have 28 left to go. 13 in nevernever realms but 15 in the real world only 5 of which know anything is wrong yet and with their communication hub being killed (Hollow Man/Labyrinth) they have no means to coordinate response. If they would do so in the first place instead of all going to ground separately in holes like a rats they are.
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No Name Always Aware is Hollow Man. Once we hopefully finish him, we'll be left with South America, Africa, Asia, and Europe, basically. Paris is probably where all the European ones were, mostly (which is interesting, actually - no one in Eastern Europe or Russia? Interesting), at least one of those is likely to be handled by the council (Asia?). I would say go for Africa first.
 
Yog said:
No Name Always Aware is Hollow Man. Once we hopefully finish him, we'll be left with South America, Africa, Asia, and Europe, basically. Paris is probably where all the European ones were, mostly (which is interesting, actually - no one in Eastern Europe or Russia? Interesting), at least one of those is likely to be handled by the council (Asia?). I would say go for Africa first.
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we also are going to need to use crown questions to figure out what ongoing plans are still going on in the absence of their planners whether cause dead or captured. Though obviously phrased better than how I phrased it.
 
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