Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
- Thread starter DragonParadox
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- Crossover Fantasy
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- washington
wasn't part of the most likely reasoning for not killing him wasn't cause she couldn't as far as we know but because by crippling him she crippled the court?
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- washington
what does this have to do with free will by df standards? Also I kinda think a lot of people seem to misunderstand free will in dresden files. As far as I know people are able to enact free will to dominate others as much as their able to use it for other things. That doesn't really mean free will is broken.
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- Location
- Canada
Tbf, if the Blackstaff, Warden Captain, and Molly were glaring at me, I'll assume that I'm dead or dying too
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- washington
I think free will is more freedom of opportunity than it is freedom of mind. A mortal can theoretically become a god through mind control, threats, and sacrifice.
Because Antonio never got to roll. I wasn't going to have you guys spend essence for nothing, penalizing an action that did not happen.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
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- Tempe, AZ
I suspect that a whole lot of wizards break the laws with their death curse.
Thank you for the thought, but SSC doesn't cost essence to use.
Any idea what would happen if we used
The Infernal floods a victim's mind with her searing Essence, boiling away and dissolving memories the
Demon Prince finds inconvenient or unnecessary.
System: Upon locking eyes with her victim, the Infernal spends 1 Essence makes a contested roll of Wits
+ Intimidation against the victim's Willpower, both at
difficulty 6. Each success by which the Infernal exceeds
her target allows her to erase the memory of one scene
from the target's life. No new memories take the place
of these dissolved moments; instead her memories are
haunted by blanks patches containing only an acute
sense of pain and loss.
Demon Prince finds inconvenient or unnecessary.
System: Upon locking eyes with her victim, the Infernal spends 1 Essence makes a contested roll of Wits
+ Intimidation against the victim's Willpower, both at
difficulty 6. Each success by which the Infernal exceeds
her target allows her to erase the memory of one scene
from the target's life. No new memories take the place
of these dissolved moments; instead her memories are
haunted by blanks patches containing only an acute
sense of pain and loss.
- Location
- Massachusits
[X] Try to keep him alive for more through interrogation once you deal with the traitor inside the Halls even if it does mean shedding another pair of War Weavers
- Location
- being near locations is my passion.
When it comes to death curses, I'm guessing that just knocking someone out (from surprise/drugs) and then killing them won't work?
Lie (so he thinks he's going to live, and thus not be preparing a death curse[1]: "Knock him out, he has answers we need"
What about Molly using the crown to see how he'd cast the curse/the particulars of his death curse, and then doing something something Occult skill to ward herself?
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[1] Again, I don't understand death curses, this is just an idea for if making someone think there going to live is useful for not being subjected to one.
Lie (so he thinks he's going to live, and thus not be preparing a death curse[1]: "Knock him out, he has answers we need"
What about Molly using the crown to see how he'd cast the curse/the particulars of his death curse, and then doing something something Occult skill to ward herself?
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[1] Again, I don't understand death curses, this is just an idea for if making someone think there going to live is useful for not being subjected to one.
You ease their memories, but the soul deep damage lingers, the same way that making Rosie forget the instances of her getting enchanted to have a phobia against drugs does not get rid of the phobia.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
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- Tempe, AZ
I suspect that a whole lot of wizards break the laws with their death curse.
@DragonParadox : We have already agreed to buy False Hope Springs at next XP build can we buy it right now and shake this guy's hand?
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[X] use him as a focus:
What are the plans of this ones master?
-[x] ask tiffany to fleshcraft him into a reversable, but more helpless state
-[x]put him in a coma
-[x]leave a pair of war weavers
I suspect the enemys plans to have changed with this.
Hopefully they are already solidified.
What are the plans of this ones master?
-[x] ask tiffany to fleshcraft him into a reversable, but more helpless state
-[x]put him in a coma
-[x]leave a pair of war weavers
I suspect the enemys plans to have changed with this.
Hopefully they are already solidified.
Yes, you can.
[X] Don't interfere with Morgan's work.
COMMENTARY
Well then, Olivia, you have just terrified a lot of very powerful people worse than the literally mind-controlling conspiracy.
Hope you enjoy the limelight
More seriously, I think Im probably putting that Arcana familiar/power armor for her higher on the priority list for next turn.
Lydia's been quiet. Im assuming she's here, at least.
Not got much to do, but she and Tiffany have the greatest sensory range after Sophia.
Major objective complete: Outing Peabody in front of reliable witnesses.
This is why sometimes, you take the effort to go for the extra effort options.
This makes our life vastly simpler.
If we can keep this guy alive, we can get him to corroborate everyone who he has taken messages to on Peabody's behalf.
Which would vastly simplify identifying everyone else in the conspiracy.
And doing Morgan a kindness as well.
@DragonParadox
QUESTION
1) Are we not carrying any incapacitation drugs from Sanctuary?
I know we have handcuffs.
2) Tiffany has Lore of Flesh 1: Body Control to put this guy into a deathly coma at DC9 for a scene, and I think 1WP will extend that permanently until fixed. Alternatively, spending 1 Faith to Lore of Flesh 5 Shape Flesh this dude blind or lame or something similar.
3) Sophia has Summon Stormcrow as a Tier 3 Gift.
Can we have a Stormcrow deliver this dude back to the gym?
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The text reads like there's no need for a WP spending:
There's no "scene-long" anywhere. Tiffany simply puts him into a coma.
More even - he's the messenger - he knows where the dead drops are and possibly where the bases are located.
- You are not carrying drugs mostly because Tiffany can put people in a coma with a touch
- She can yes
- Yes... but it would be rather noticeable. There aren't any people right here right now, one assumes because they instinctively avoided the silence area, but that has been broken now.
She couldnt.
He had an Outsider Investment that prevented mortal magic working on him.
Blackstaff McCoy tried to kill him three times. Didnt take.
So while yes, what she chose to do crippled both him and the White Court, she couldnt have just chosen to kill him as an alternative.
This is what gives me the impression:
If we want it to last longer than the scene, we are gonna need to spend WP.
Tiffany does have the WP to spend though.
Exactly.
This kind of capture is an intelligence goldmine that you try to preserve.
Id consider spending the 2m to send him to Sanctuary, thats how important keeping him alive might be.
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- washington
In fairness I'm fairly sure she didn't settle for not killing him even if she couldn't kill him. So much as realized crippling him was a way way better idea for crippling them.
1) Okay.
2) Great.
3) Doesnt matter.
Its late night/very early morning in mid-February Scotland. The local temperature is about 5 degrees Celsius, the sky is overcast, and the sun doesnt rise before 8AM.
There isnt going to be anyone out now, and none of them are approaching a group of 20ish people.
Where are you getting "spend a WP to make it permanent" from? I am not seeing it.
I meant more in how that manifests. Counter spells for example usually require the mage to explain how they're going to counter the effect they're seeing using the spheres they have available. The charm could be read as tossing evil energy around, but also as the infernal doing something contextually significant themselves. The difference between "I give you bad luck which happens to manifest as misspeaking during an important social encounter" and "I make you choke on your tongue using demon spite so that you misspeak during an important social encounter".
Ultimately mechanically identical but still an interesting distinction.
She is basically perfect for killing casters, and in particular council wizards. They have bad mental defenses and even with the best in the business they can't act on things they don't know they need to act on.
She can't compete with even a mediocre wizard's magical breadth, but if Olivia played it smart she could kill wizards significantly stronger than her.
Can we get some detail on if FSB would deal with sight damage? Cause this guy seems like he should be pretty impossibly broken if he's the watcher from earlier.
Ivar
Dark Reaper
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- Russia Moscow
I think discussing Olivia by herself misses the point... That she's a member of Molly's circle. And represents the powers available to Molly. They can't know how Olivia is a unique example. They just see someone in Molly's circle with a bunch of incredibly dangerous powers, and the fact that she's working in tandem with the new Queen of Hell just adds to the fear factor. Because... how many more Olivias does Molly have?