Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

[X] Yes, Detective Murphy 's proven very useful once and if it comes down to it protecting her isn't that much different from protecting Harry

I want her to exalt, and you have to do stuff that's impossible to manage that. If we could get her a magical shield of some kind, though, maybe from our Kingdom, I'd feel much better about it, though.
 
Was Murphy never told about Harry picking up Lasciel's coin, that she wonders where it went?
She was not. Michael saw him and Molly met her in his soul, that is the full list of those who knew about the Coin.
Small Favor chapter 39
I thought about it and pursed my lips. "Huh. I did. Guess I'm smarter than I thought."
"They shouldn't have suspected you," Murphy said. "I'm a paranoid bitch, and I gave up suspecting you a long time ago."
"They had a good reason," I said. I took a slow breath. It was hard, but I forced the words out. "Nicodemus threw one of those coins at Michael's kid. I grabbed it before the kid could. And I had a photocopy of a Fallen angel living in my head for several years, trying to talk me into picking up the coin and letting the rest of it into me."
Murphy glanced obliquely at me. "You mean…you could have become one of those things?"
"Yeah," I said. "Couple of times, it was close."
"Is it still…Is that what…?"
I shook my head. "It's gone now. She's gone now. I guess the whole time she was trying to change me, I was trying to change her right back. And in the Raith Deeps last year, she took a psychic bullet for me-at the very end, after everyone else had gotten out." I shrugged. "I had…We'd sort of become friends, Murph. I'd gotten used to having her around." I glanced at her and gave her a faint smile. "Crazy, huh? Get all broken up over what was essentially my imaginary friend."

Her fingers found my hand and squeezed tight once. "We're all imaginary friends to one another, Harry." She sat with me for a moment, and then gave me a shrewd glance. "You never told Michael the details."
I shook my head. "I don't know why."
"I do," she said. "You remember when Kravos stuck his fingers in my brain?"
I shuddered. He'd been impersonating me when he did it. "Yeah."
"You said it caused some kind of damage. What did you call it?"
"Psychic trauma," I said. "Same thing happens when a loved one dies, during big emotional tragedies, that kind of thing. Takes a while to get over it."
"But you do get over it," Murph said. "Dresden, it seems to me that you'd lock yourself up pretty tight if someone took a regular bullet for you with a regular body. Much less if you were under psychic attack and this imaginary friend died right inside your own brain. Something like that happens, shouldn't you have expected to be a basket case, at least for a little while?"
I frowned, staring down at my hands. "I never even considered that."
She snorted gently. "There's a surprise. Dresden forgets that he's not invincible."

She had a point there.
"This plan of yours," she said. "Do you really think it's going to work?"
"I think I've got to try it." I took a deep breath. "I don't think you should be involved in this one, Murph. The Denarians have human followers. Fanatic ones."
"You think we're going to have to kill some of them," Murphy said.
"I think we probably won't have much choice," I said. "Besides that, I wouldn't put it past them to send someone here for spite, win or lose."
Murphy glanced up at me rather sharply.
I shrugged. "They know that Michael and Sanya and I are going to be out there. They'll know that there will be someone here, unprotected. Whether or not they get the coins, Nicodemus might send someone here to finish off the wounded."
Murphy stared at me for a second, then looked back at Kincaid. "You bastard," she said without emphasis.
"I'm not playing big brother with you, Karrin," I replied. "But we are dealing with some very bad people. Molly's staying with Kincaid. I'm leaving Mouse here too. I'd appreciate it if someone with a little more experience was here to give the kid some direction, if it was needed."
She scowled at Kincaid. Then she said, "Trying to guilt me into playing worried girlfriend, domestic defender, and surrogate mother figure, eh?"
"I figured it would work better than telling you to shut up and get into the kitchen."
She took a deep breath, studying the sleeping man. Then she reached out and touched his hand. She stood and faced me. "No. I'm coming with you."
I grunted, rising. "You sure?"
"The girl is important to him," Murphy said. "More important to him than anything has been for a long time, Harry. He'd die to protect her. If he was conscious, he'd be demanding to go with you. But he can't do that. So I'll have to do it for him."
"Could be real messy, Murph."
She nodded. "I'll worry about that after the girl is safe."
There was a clock ticking quietly on the wall. "The meeting's in an hour."
Murphy nodded and reached for her coat. The tears were gone, and there was no evidence of them in the lines of her face. "You'd better excuse me, then. If we're going to have an evening out, I need to change into something more comfortable."
"I never tell a lady how to accessorize."
In canon, she was told during the events of Small Favor, which was November 2008.
After Lash died in White Night, which happened around May 2007.
 
Going to point out that Demonreach can canonically stop Anduriel from spying on it. The only other such location in Chicago is the Carpenter household, which is warded by angels.
I doubt that any Denarian scrying focus would work.
I think the point was that the Rakasha could be under surveillance, and if we do something to its cup it will react.
[X] Yes, Detective Murphy 's proven very useful once and if it comes down to it protecting her isn't that much different from protecting Harry

I want her to exalt, and you have to do stuff that's impossible to manage that. If we could get her a magical shield of some kind, though, maybe from our Kingdom, I'd feel much better about it, though.
Not how it works; exaltations are all about what's happening right now over what you've been up to. Which is why they don't exclusively pull from retirement homes where people have had decades of extra time to buff their CVs compared to the rest of the mortal population.
 
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Going to point out that Demonreach can canonically stop Anduriel from spying on it. The only other such location in Chicago is the Carpenter household, which is warded by angels.
I doubt that any Denarian scrying focus would work.
It's not about Demonreach being watched, it's the Raksha.

Assuming he will know and react once his Cup Grace is back from imprisonment, the watcher will know that something is going on in Demonreach.

[X] Yes, Detective Murphy 's proven very useful once and if it comes down to it protecting her isn't that much different from protecting Harry
 
It's not about Demonreach being watched, it's the Raksha.

Assuming he will know and react once his Cup Grace is back from imprisonment, the watcher will know that something is going on in Demonreach.

[X] Yes, Detective Murphy 's proven very useful once and if it comes down to it protecting her isn't that much different from protecting Harry

That is what Murphy reasoned yes, if this thing is a jail than it has some kind of anti-bug contingencies, but the unmotivated spirit probably would not be looking.
 
1) Yes, you do need to be a wizard to be Warden of Demonreach.

Magic is necessary to seal the inmates, magic is necessary to defeat them in the first place.
And not just any magic, you need to be a pretty brawny ass wizard, not just a changeling or some other sort of scion.
Even Exalting Murphy right now wouldnt make her eligible, because she wouldnt be a wizard.

Naagloshii qualify as minimum-security inmates in this place, and even strong wizards balk at facing those things.
Consider what the actual serious inmates are like.


2)No, she would not.
Sharkface/He Who Walks Beside would literally eat her alive. I mean, literally eat her out and wear her skin.
Lord Raith had zero issues punking her in a 1v1 in Blood Rites and he wasnt even using magic.
Lord Raith led us into the cave he called the Deeps, and the Bodyguard Barbie kept her gun on me while simultaneously remaining well out of easy reach. She wasn't any Trixie Vixen anyway. If I jumped her, she'd shoot me, and that would be that. Not that I could have done much jumping, what with the leg irons and all. I had trouble just shuffling along while ducking my head low enough to keep from bumping into rocky protrusions from the cave's roof.
"Murph?" I said. "How are you doing?"
"I'm feeling a little repressed," she responded. There was tight pain in her voice. "I'm fulfilling this hostage stereotype, and it's pissing me off."
"That's good," Raith said. He still had her by the neck, with the knife he held actually pressed a tiny bit into the wound he'd already given. "Defiance adds a great deal of enjoyment to feeding, Ms. Murphy." He put a contemptuous emphasis on the honorific. "It is, after all, a great deal more pleasurable to conquer than to rule. And defiant women can be conquered again and again before they break."
I ignored Raith. "How's your side?"
Murphy shot a glare over her shoulder at her captor. "A little prick like this? It's nothing."
In answer, Raith threw Murphy against the wall. She caught herself and turned, her hand blurring in a short, vicious strike.
Raith wasn't human. He caught her hand without so much as looking at it. He drove her hand and wrist back against the wall, and brought the bloodied tip of his knife sharply up under her chin. Her lip twisted into a defiant snarl and her knee lashed up as she kicked. Raith blocked it with a sweep of his thigh and pressed in close to her, all sinuous, serpentine speed and strength, until he was pressed to her front, his face to hers, raven-black hair mingling with her dark gold.
"Warrior women are all the same," Raith said, his eyes on Murphy's. His voice was low, slow, lilting. "You all know your way around struggling with other bodies. But you know little about the needs of your own."
Murphy stared at him, shoulders twitching, and her lips slowly parted.
"It's bound into you," Raith whispered. "Deeper than muscle and bone. The need. The only way to escape the blackness of death. You cannot deny it. Cannot escape it. In joy, in despair, in darkness, in pain, mortalkind still feels desire." His hand slid down from her wrist, his fingertips lightly brushing the thick veins. A soft sound escaped from Murphy's throat.
Raith smiled. "There. You already feel yourself weakening. I've taken thousands like you, lovely child. Taken them and broken them. There was nothing they could do. There is nothing you can do. You were made to feel desire. I was made to use it against you. It is the natural cycle. Life and death. Mating and death. Predator and prey."
Raith leaned closer with each word, and brushed his lips against Murphy's throat as he spoke. "Born mortal. Born weak. And easily taken."
Murphy's eyes went wide. Her body arched in shock. She let out a low, sobbing sound, as she tried and failed to hold back her voice.
Raith drew his head slowly back, smiling down at Murphy. "And that's only a taste, child. When you know what it is to be truly taken later this night, you will understand that your life ended the moment I wanted you." His hand moved, sudden and hard, digging his thumb against the wound in her ribs. Her face went white, and another, similar cry escaped her. She crumpled, and Raith let her fall to the ground. He stood over her for a moment, and then said, "We'll have days, little one. Weeks. You can spend them in agony or in bliss. The important thing to realize is that I'll be the one who decides which. You are no longer in command of your body. Nor your mind. You no longer have a choice in the matter."
Murphy gathered herself together and managed to lift her eyes again. They were defiant, and blurred with tears, but I could see the terror in them as well-and a sort of sickened, hideous desire. "You're a liar," she whispered. "I am my own."
Raith said, quietly, "I can always tell when a woman feels desire, Ms. Murphy. I can feel yours. Part of you is so tired of being disciplined. Tired of being afraid. Tired of denying yourself for the good of others." He knelt down, and Murphy's eyes shied away from his. "That part of you is what wanted to feel the pleasure I just gave. And it is that part of you that will grow as it feels more. The defiant young woman is already dead. She is simply too afraid to admit it."
He seized her hair and started dragging her, careless and hard. I saw her face for a second, confusion and fear and anger warring for control of her expression. But I knew she'd taken a wound far more grievous than any physical injury I'd seen her sustain. Raith had forced her to feel something, and there had been nothing she could do to stop him. She'd done her best to tear into him, and he had slapped her down like a child. It wasn't Murphy's fault that she'd lost that fight. It wasn't her fault that he'd forced sensation upon her. I mean, hell, he was the lord of the freaking nation of sexual predators, and even weakened and hampered by my mother's curse, he had been able to take apart Murphy's psychic and emotional defenses.
If he got the full measure of his powers back, what he would do to Murphy in retaliation for what my mother had done to him would be worse than death.
The damnedest thing was that there wasn't much I could do about it. Not because I was chained up, held at gunpoint, and probably going to die-though I had to admit, that might make things somewhat difficult-but because this wasn't a fight that someone else could win for Murphy. The real battle was inside of her-her strength of will against her own well-founded fears. Even if I did ride in on a white horse to save her, it would mean only that she would be forced to question her own strength and integrity thereafter, and that would be nothing more than a slow death of her self-reliance and strength of will.
It was something I could not save her from.
And I had asked her to face it.
Raith hauled on her hair as if it had been a dog's lead.
Murphy didn't fight back.
I clenched my hands into impotent fists. Murphy was in very real danger of dying that night, even if she kept on breathing and her heart kept on beating. But she would have to be the one to save herself.
The best thing I could do was nothing. The best thing I could say was nothing. I had some power, but it couldn't help Murphy now.
Hell's bells, irony blows. A lot of the entities interested in Demonreach can do much, much worse than a White Court vampire elder who hadnt fed for thirty-plus years.
Your argument is self-defeating. If even a lowest security inmate generally beats even the strongest wizard, then being a wizard doesn't help at all (or at least doesn't meaningfully help), and you need to look for other qualities in a Warden. It doesn't matter how good a Warden is at being a fighter - by default, any of the inmates would eat them alive anyway, even if they are a senior council member specialized in combat.
 
COMMENTARY
This is the day before Valentine's Day 2007
IIRC, Thomas' birthday is on the 14th of February; it was a plot point once in the short story "Its My Birthday, Too".

Also, tomorrow, Constance Bushnell aka "Drusilla", who went missing for a year and became a Black Court Master vampire in that time, is about to wander back into town tomorrow and try to murder the entire LARP group that she used to play with at a closed mall.

Assuming that station of canon doesnt change, she did kill two security guards, and did come close to killing Harry, who had come there with Molly to give Thomas a birthday present.

EDIT
Correction.
Constance shows up on Valentine's Day 2008.
NOT 2007.

Could we do something about Constance Bushnell now instead of having to deal with her in a year?

I'm having some trouble remembering what exactly happened in "It's My Birthday, Too." because I'm dealing with being pissed off at someone doing non-magic Sorcery over in another thread but if I'm remembering correctly Thomas should be a part of that LARP group right now.
 
I think the point was that the Rakasha could be under surveillance, and if we do something to its cup it will react.
If so, thats not really something we can do anything about.
A volcano-sized notRaksha is as much a geological feature as it is a person; everyone in the general vicinity in the spirit world keeps an eye on his disposition, just in case. No real surveillance required.

If he's under surveillance, they will have noticed our visit to the area already.
It's not about Demonreach being watched, it's the Raksha.

Assuming he will know and react once his Cup Grace is back from imprisonment, the watcher will know that something is going on in Demonreach.
Fair enough.
Like I said above, you dont really need to go to very much effort to keep an eye on something the size and potential impact of Embermane.

In this case?
Just ask Michael if he can spare the time to come along to Demonreach. If there's a specific plot, having a Knight along would be useful. We'll know if its truly relevant if we finish this meeting and Sanya shows up in Chicago in the next week.

Since I doubt that Lasciel has acquired a new host in the three or so months since Dresden gave up her Coin to Forthill, any encounter would probably be an Echtamidel encounter, +/- any new allies he and his current host have cultivated in the last century or so.

Of course, there's a good chance that we havent seen all the Denarians who were involved in the Chicago Fire plot.


Your argument is self-defeating. If even a lowest security inmate generally beats even the strongest wizard, then being a wizard doesn't help at all (or at least doesn't meaningfully help), and you need to look for other qualities in a Warden. It doesn't matter how good a Warden is at being a fighter - by default, any of the inmates would eat them alive anyway, even if they are a senior council member specialized in combat.
1) You are arguing against a strawman.

Noone said the lowest security inmate beats the strongest wizard; Shagnasty fled the fight with Listens To Wind. What I said was that even the lowest security inmates are insanely scary inmates by magic standards. They arent the sort of thing that even most mature wizards want to run into.

Shagnasty disabled Captain-Commander Luccio in passing; yes she was well off her game, but he wasnt even targeting her.

Also, wizards are strength + skill + knowledge + preptime.
Its worth remembering that Harry was 35 years old when he became Warden of Demonreach.
Even if you count his apprenticeship, he's being doing magic for less than 25 years.

Dude was a baby. A massively powerful Starborn baby with soulfire, but one lacking the decades of experience and control to begin to wield that power to its full extent.
Warden is usually a role for elder wizards, fully in the flower of their strength.


2)There are two or three hard requirements for Warden of Demonreach
=The Warden must be human.
There is to my knowledge, never been a Fae, god or other species of guardian for the prison. The first Merlin may have been a scion in-setting, but he was very human.


=The Warden must be capable of wielding wizard-tier magic.
Thats a hard requirement. You MUST be this tall to ride. Wizards have situational advantages against all other supernaturals.

We see the sealing rituals involved in imprisoning inmates used onscreen twice; that requires wizard-tier magic. And even the buffs for combat on the island are geared towards wizards, who can draw power from magic on the island and never run out while they are on the island.


=The Warden must be capable of defending themselves against Demonreach's many, MANY enemies.
The island's power does not extend beyond its shores and immediate surroundings, while the Warden must go out into the world, where many people exist who want to control the island's power or to destroy its current guardian.


Could we do something about Constance Bushnell now instead of having to deal with her in a year?

I'm having some trouble remembering what exactly happened in "It's My Birthday, Too." because I'm dealing with being pissed off at someone doing non-magic Sorcery over in another thread but if I'm remembering correctly Thomas should be a part of that LARP group right now.
We dont know anything about the circumstances under which Constance Bushnell left town or where/when she ran into the Black Court master vampire that Turned her.
So I doubt it, unless the random dice roll takes us that way.

No, Thomas is not part of the LARP group(Evernight players, which is a vampire LARP IC).
He was there on the invitation and as a favor to one of the female workers at his cafe called Sarah, who had worked weekends for almost three months without a complaint.

It happened at Woodfield Mall, which is a real mall in the Chicago suburb of Schaumburg.
Second biggest mall in Illnois.
 
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1) You are arguing against a strawman.

Noone said the lowest security inmate beats the strongest wizard; Shagnasty fled the fight with Listens To Wind. What I said was that even the lowest security inmates are insanely scary inmates by magic standards. They arent the sort of thing that even most mature wizards want to run into.

Shagnasty disabled Captain-Commander Luccio in passing; yes she was well off her game, but he wasnt even targeting her.

Also, wizards are strength + skill + knowledge + preptime.
Its worth remembering that Harry was 35 years old when he became Warden of Demonreach.
Even if you count his apprenticeship, he's being doing magic for less than 25 years.

Dude was a baby. A massively powerful Starborn baby with soulfire, but one lacking the decades of experience and control to begin to wield that power to its full extent.
Warden is usually a role for elder wizards, fully in the flower of their strength.

Then why was Father Murphy the previous Warden in this quest?
 
1) You are arguing against a strawman.

Noone said the lowest security inmate beats the strongest wizard; Shagnasty fled the fight with Listens To Wind. What I said was that even the lowest security inmates are insanely scary inmates by magic standards. They arent the sort of thing that even most mature wizards want to run into.

Shagnasty disabled Captain-Commander Luccio in passing; yes she was well off her game, but he wasnt even targeting her.

Also, wizards are strength + skill + knowledge + preptime.
Its worth remembering that Harry was 35 years old when he became Warden of Demonreach.
Even if you count his apprenticeship, he's being doing magic for less than 25 years.

Dude was a baby. A massively powerful Starborn baby with soulfire, but one lacking the decades of experience and control to begin to wield that power to its full extent.
Warden is usually a role for elder wizards, fully in the flower of their strength.


2)There are two or three hard requirements for Warden of Demonreach
=The Warden must be human.
There is to my knowledge, never been a Fae, god or other species of guardian for the prison. The first Merlin may have been a scion in-setting, but he was very human.


=The Warden must be capable of wielding wizard-tier magic.
Thats a hard requirement. You MUST be this tall to ride. Wizards have situational advantages against all other supernaturals.

We see the sealing rituals involved in imprisoning inmates used onscreen twice; that requires wizard-tier magic. And even the buffs for combat on the island are geared towards wizards, who can draw power from magic on the island and never run out while they are on the island.


=The Warden must be capable of defending themselves against Demonreach's many, MANY enemies.
The island's power does not extend beyond its shores and immediate surroundings, while the Warden must go out into the world, where many people exist who want to control the island's power or to destroy its current guardian.
1) You are saying it, here, specifically:
Naagloshii qualify as minimum-security inmates in this place, and even strong wizards balk at facing those things.
Consider what the actual serious inmates are like.
Maybe not in these specific terms, but the logic is there. Listens-to-Wind had a type advantage over naagloshii. Most wizards don't have such type advantage and generally flee from naalogloshii, having to resort to stuff like literal nukes to defeat them.

You keep pointing out that even minimum security prisoners are insanely scary and can defeat almost all wizards barring specific type advantages of circumstances. And my point is that this is an argument in my favor. If even lowest security inmates can defeat most Wizards in most situations, then the value of combat ability for a Warden is low, because it doesn't typically confer any additional advantage to the Warden.

Most of your other points are suppositions or your outright inventions, such as "Warden is usually a role for elder wizards, fully in the flower of their strength". We just don't know who a typical Warden is. Kemmler was one, but how typical was he? When had he become the Warden? Etc. We don't know.

2) All your assumptions are just that, assumptions, we don't know if they are true. I would somewhat agree with your third point, and maybe even the first one, but otherwise? Citations needed. As in, hard proof, direct citations that you need to be a human, a wizard, etc. Because you are inventing stuff. "Lack of evidence is not evidence of absence" is a saying that very much applies here. You can't say "we don't know if X happened, therefore we conclude that X is impossible". That's not how it works.

If Murphy was to exalt, and Demonreach is the place I would expect to encounter an exaltation primed to go, she definitely would qualify for points 1, and 3. And for 2? Ancient Sorcery. All exalts are capable of it.
Every example we've seen in canon has been a strong wizard. That doesn't prove they're the only ones who can do the job but it does imply some things.

Harry is a meathead, but he can still do stuff like commune with spirits and understanding the supernatural significantly better than a mundane person could. It wouldn't surprise me if even in the case that Demonreach can bind to a baseline it wouldn't want to because talking to them, let alone teaching them anything useful, is a pain in the ass.

Demonreach: "Just contort your soul into a fractal star and channel some elemental fire already. You're turning on the break room coffee machine not restraining a demon lord, we've got stuff to do today"
To be clear - what examples? As far as I know, there are two - Harry (not a typical Warden) and Kemmler (also likely not a typical Warden). In this story we get a third - Father Murphy, a wizard and a priest. Possibly had True Faith.

Not how it works; exaltations are all about what's happening right now over what you've been up to. Which is why they don't exclusively pull from retirement homes where people have had decades of extra time to buff their CVs compared to the rest of the mortal population.
To be fair, the act of becoming the Warden of Demonreach is exaltation-worthy, and I could see Demonreach having a shard hidden away ready to go.
 
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Arc 13 Post 45: Visitors Young and Old
Visitors Young and Old

13th of February 2007 A.D.

Telling her it's dangerous would be a slap in the face you know, if Karin Murphy had wanted 'safe' she would have taken up another line of work so you nod. "As soon as I know where we're going I'll give you the number of the boat... Do boats have numbers?"

"They have a registration number but not..." she stops and looks at you suspiciously. "You're not planning to raise a magic boat out of Lake Michigan or something?"

"Nope, just curious," you return glibly.

For his part Father Forthil is doing his best not to smile, though the twinkle behind those wire rimmed glasses proves stubborn.

Thomas has a boat you think, he was talking about taking his girlfriend on the lake. Wait isn't it his birthday tomorrow? You should do something about that.

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14th of February 2007 A.D.

Midnight comes upon you still planning. Magical 'bugs' aren't like the technological ones, they cannot be seen by the flash of light in a hidden lens, nor heard by knocking to listen to echoes in a false wall, they might be built into the very fabric of space woven in the threads of time, a mental box in some unsuspecting observer's head just waiting for the key. Worse, all of that goes double for the Otherworld, there the assumptions and precedents of the everyday flow like wax under a flame, mixing and rearranging. So that leaves two options. Either a wizard risks opening their Sight and getting an eyeful of whatever nastiness the Fallen thought to pack in there or you get Tiffany to guess at the schemes of her other self and with angelic sense perceive a Fallen Angel's workings.

But Tiffany is knight-sitting, if you call her away, especially for this of all reasons sirs Lyr, Madon and Gwair are going to want to stick their oar in. No doubt they could be a great help, but is the city of Chicago ready to play host to the last three of Arthur's knights? Is it ready to play host to three more like me?

The sound of a message from Harry... no Mouse. Just my luck. No awkward middle of the night texts from a guy for me. Huh...

"The Warden candidates have arrived alongside Warden Ramirez. To start with a late night run. They can just do that...🐶:("

Aww... Of course Mouse can't just go running whenever he likes people would get worried seeing a dog that big out on his own, but something tells you no one had informed those Warden trainees that they would be ringing in Valentine's Day with some night-running around a strange city. But that does mean there's another wizard around who could look around for any threads leading back to Lasciel before you start making moves on the island.

Who do you take with you to search for any divination foci Lasciel may have left behind?

[] A Wizard (Guaranteed to work, but does involve the risks of using the Sight on the Work of the Fallen)
-[] Harry Dresden
-[] Carlos Ramirez

[] Tiffany (Includes the three knights she's been teaching)

[] Write in


OOC: This is a bit of a spoiler since you do not have communication though the Nevernever but for the sake of avoiding another vote just to go over and check yes the knights have learned English in this time, because they are cheaters who cheat, not as much as the Celestial Exalted, but enough in this case. No rolls for this one, I know it's a bit short, but I need a vote for this and it would not have fit in the last part since that was a Murphy interlude.
 
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Surely we can craft a collar with a minor illusion for our friend? Getting mundanes to see a jogger running close to him? Something nonthreatening but also not worrying. No teenager,no obviously vulnerable women, but also no bulky man or anyone in too suspicious clothes.
 
[x] Tiffany (Includes the three knights she's been teaching)

Honestly?
This is exactly what I hoped the knights could help with.
It shows the magnitude of modern problems quite nicely, while also being basically a quest.
 
[x] Tiffany (Includes the three knights she's been teaching)

hey, boss. If our world builds a mech to jogg alongside the best boy, would putting a glamour on that be cheaper? Timewise?
 
That is it, we need to work on getting the Sight for Molly. She can faceplant bad shit a lot better than almost anybody else on our crew so far.
 
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