Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
- Thread starter DragonParadox
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So, and sorry to keep bothering you about this, but doesn't Karrin's connection to Dresden, LoS and just the position of head of SI count? Or did you mean Murphy as Karrin Murphy? It gets a bit confusing, sorry.
fictionfan
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[x] 'Just' that Kate was a Denarian and she brought the Grace you are after to the Island you are looking for only to be discovered
I know that we have been a bit lacks with crown secrecy, but it's good to remember information on the details of your information gathering capabilities is included in everything that we share.
I know that we have been a bit lacks with crown secrecy, but it's good to remember information on the details of your information gathering capabilities is included in everything that we share.
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I'm going to be honest here:
My reaction to her having a crush on her brother that could be manipulated by the very best manipulative denarian out of all of them is to shrug and say: *And?*
She could have one daydream once and Lasciel could've made her end that way, that's how good she is at that.
*Tempting* isn't that different from mind control when the tempter lives in your head and has millennia of experience, so, for all intent and purposes, the sister is not responsible for her actions past the point where she took the coin (and probably some time before if she had the shadow whispering in her ear).
Blaming her is blaming one of the victims here.
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A quote of a little sister, that is deathly sick, crying for a month when her big brother leaves to a foreign country because she doesn't think she will see him again is not really a good indicator of her *desiring him that way before she took the coin*.
All it says is that she liked him and was afraid she would never see him, which, given that she could've died at any moment, is pretty understandable.
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It's not whether you understand that matters, it's whether the people who will learn of this because Molly tells them that will understand.
Ask yourself this. Would Kate Murphy have preferred that this secret died with her? I think she almost certainly would, and as there's no benefit whatsoever to sharing it, then we shouldn't. It's just cruel, salacious gossip at this point.
OctarineShrike
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[x] 'Just' that Kate was a Denarian and she brought the Grace you are after to the Island you are looking for only to be discovered
She's dead, she doesn't get to have a say.
The question is about giving closure to the living, not about the dead.
Plus, Molly sharing it allows Father Forthill and Murphy to help Molly get past it and how bad Lasciel was there, relativize and work through it, instead of letting it fester.
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Also, Father Murphy wanted it to be known, since that's what he put in his letter, don't you want to follow his will then since you are using this kind of arguments?
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Well yeah, that's the Murphy I meant.
Doesn't matter much in this instance, but why are we rolling for the crown in this situation?
I get why it's necessary when someone else has super stealth to oppose it, but the RaW is that it just works. It's not like NWS where there's a scale of understanding based on success baked in.
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[X] All of it, they've been with you so far, you trust Father Forthil and Murphy deserves to know if anyone does
To see if Molly could put things together if given the pieces, just because you have the information does not mean Molly understands it (what was with that stone?/Gee that does not looks like any shore I recognize etc...)
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Especially because I think that not even a perfect defense, which takes precedence over everything, would have any effect because it is a question asked directly to the narrator, something nothing inside the story should have the power to affect. Have different information based on different question wording? Of course. But hiding the content of a response? Never.
fictionfan
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Are there even any Sidereal charms that would allow for hiding from the crown of eyes? I never spotted any and Sidereal have more direct interactions with the storyteller then any other Exalted.
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Shouldn't that be the domain of the question asked? In this one Molly asked for the plot that the guy was a target of, so the crown's answer should describe that.
Tom killed Larry in the basement with a lead pipe because he wanted the insurance money. As opposed to a snapshot of Tom braining Larry and later purchasing a sports car.
You guys asked for 'details of the plan that lead to his murder', which is very general and that's OK, but since it was general Molly has to put together the story from what was basically a montage of the greatest (worst) hits of a years long plan. It was a roll for how many of those details she could put together, though of course you guys OOC would have gotten a chance to crack at it as well, as you still do.
fictionfan
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@DragonParadox : Was none of this a supernatural secret?
Oh definitely, one moment. I'll add that in.
So... Was father Murphy Dresden of his generation? Because from what I am reading, he was a truly incredible man, and as far from average as possible.
The main important thing to notice is that he only lived a mortal lifespan, and even then didn't live until old age. So, by wizard standards he died incredibly young. Yet, by the time of his death he apparently was the Warden of Demonreach, possibly through divine appointment, and also either knew something, or had some power that made Kemmler expend resources looking for his ghost. . The position of the Warden is important, and this is meteoric rise to power. I am fairly sure that normally this would mean he at least knew some members of the senior council. He also was a priest, and made a career in the church too... He also was good enough at magic to create that magic primer of his for his descendants.
Basically, father Murphy seems like a very special person. I now want to know are who was his teacher and if that person is still around. Because it wouldn't surprise me if that was someone from senior council.
The main important thing to notice is that he only lived a mortal lifespan, and even then didn't live until old age. So, by wizard standards he died incredibly young. Yet, by the time of his death he apparently was the Warden of Demonreach, possibly through divine appointment, and also either knew something, or had some power that made Kemmler expend resources looking for his ghost. . The position of the Warden is important, and this is meteoric rise to power. I am fairly sure that normally this would mean he at least knew some members of the senior council. He also was a priest, and made a career in the church too... He also was good enough at magic to create that magic primer of his for his descendants.
Basically, father Murphy seems like a very special person. I now want to know are who was his teacher and if that person is still around. Because it wouldn't surprise me if that was someone from senior council.
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[x] 'Just' that Kate was a Denarian and she brought the Grace you are after to the Island you are looking for only to be discovered
[X] Write-in: there are a lot of unpleasant details, so, how much do you want to know? I can summarize, or go into detail. Your choice.
The issue here is that we have walked into basically disclosing the crown to Murphy and Father Forthill. Unless someone has an idea of how to conceal it.
The issue here is that we have walked into basically disclosing the crown to Murphy and Father Forthill. Unless someone has an idea of how to conceal it.