Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

[x] Walk along, see where this goes

I really think this is worth at least feeling out - while keeping both Dresden and Tiffany completely in the loop of course. Ménage à trois, throuples, or a "marriage/household of three" can work out, after all. We don't have to pursue this affection forevermore if it doesn't work out, or Dresden and/or Tiffany feel uncomfortable or decide against such a relationship, but it would be nice to leave the opportunity open while respecting Dresden and Tiffany's feelings and relationship. Not to mention we have no need to rush, as two immortals and a mage likely to be at least very long-lived with our and Tiffany's help and his own power.
 
I want to point out that the *walk along* option is not *go hard on it right there right now*, it's literally written as *see where it goes*, so the one that has initiative is Harry.
 
I want to point out that the *walk along* option is not *go hard on it right there right now*, it's literally written as *see where it goes*, so the one that has initiative is Harry.
It is the option to keep flirting, which this conversation turned into without either party being entirely aware of it until right now.
I will repeat my points, this vote is to try or not to continue offering and tempting Harry even after Molly with her super senses has already realized that while he has now started to find her physically attractive it also makes him mentally uncomfortable. I really don't like this, because in my opinion we shouldn't subject someone to uncomfortable situations just for our pleasure.

Why can't she start looking for someone else? Go on lots of club dates and enjoy her adolescence instead of continuing this years-long feud against Harry that she knows he's not comfortable with? Because she think she knows what's best for him than he does? Isn't it better to let his relationship with Lash, which he doesn't seem to have any problems with, unlike his possible relationship with us, to progress without interference?

Why this insistence, not from the IC perspective (which this vote will define) but rather from the justifications of those of you who are voting? I already gave mine and I'm curious.
 
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Why can't she start looking for someone else? Go on lots of club dates and enjoy her adolescence instead of continuing this years-long feud against Harry that she knows he's not comfortable with?
She can and probably should, though I don't think dating mundane mortals is going to work well. Too troublesome from security standpoint, and on the scale of even two to five years, the most a mundane mortal can hope for is a position of a pet, not partner, unless they accept significant modifications (speaking of, having recently reread Dreams of the First Age - holy sh*t, the mortals of the current age are so much easier to uplift. Like, Molly can do more in a cave with a box of recently harvested monster body parts than the whole of Solar Deliberative could with full Creation infrastructure at their beck and call. I'll do a detailed comparison later if anyone wants, but just the simplest example shows it all - by the time of Usurpation solars still didn't solve old age despite actually trying really hard). Harry, at least, is a powerful wizard, which gives him some parity (and I personally maintain that at least in his case, being Starborn = having a Sidereal exaltation waiting for him) in terms of both power and insight, as well as a shared field of interests.

Now, I am all for Molly maintaining mortal connections and interests, like going to a con next month with Rosie, and going to prom, but as far as Molly's dating pool is concerned, I think our best bet would be either some wizard (not Dresden) or our Lunar mate (since I am almost certai that narrative convenience means that the Lunar shard we learned about is that of our Lunar mate).
 
Manse foundations. The directions align with four of the elements, North being Wind / Air, West with Fire, East with Water, South either aligning with Earth, or Wood, if Porter's sanctuary aligns with Earth. We would probably need to control all of those in at least some way if we are to do large scale geomancy.
My thought was that we'll need something really special to do that, so there's a case to be made for producing tools to help us got get it. I mean, can we replicate a keystone with that few points?
 
My thought was that we'll need something really special to do that, so there's a case to be made for producing tools to help us got get it. I mean, can we replicate a keystone with that few points?
My understanding is that the manse is not going to be a single artifact, but rather a series of projects that culminate in the totality of the manse. It's something from the age of Legends, and with a city-wide charm-grade effect. Given the magnitude of it, I thought it would be something like this:
1) Create 5 foundational systems, one for each element. Mechanically those would be something like Flowering of the World splendors, creating artificial Dragon Nests, aligned to each of the elements.
2) Anchor those splendors to both NeverNever and reality, probably to pre-existing Dragon Nests or at least dragon veins, to give them permanence and power to channel. Probably make a managing spirit for each of the artificial nodes. Something like minor elemental dragons, with Porter being the pattern / greatest example. Either make spirits via arcana crafting, or by summoning them from Sanctuary, or by making pacts.

These two steps create the "foundation" of the manse - they are dragon nests with infrastructure built on top of them, and utilizing their power.

3) Build the manse itself, probably both in the reality and NeverNever that would be powered by the foundation already built.
4) Connect everything together.

I don't expect us to be able to just make one, I expect this to be a major undertaking with a major payoff.
 
With a respectable showing from Molly's more romantic impulses, looks like she's going to be gritting her teeth though this fight.

Vote closed
Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Jul 8, 2024 at 10:18 AM, finished with 78 posts and 27 votes.
 
Arc 13 Post 29: When Mountains Move
When Mountains Move

7th of February 2007 A.D.

Squeezing into the blasted fridge is a special kind of hell given your recent insight, but it is at least brief. When you open the door again it is to a domain that had traded in the trees for pools of bubbling liquid that looks like pure blue water and smells like death warmed over. The ash is still falling just as thick, though you have a feeling there's a drop off not far behind you, the air whistling up from some secret depth.

"Darn it!" you bite back the impulse to say something a lot stronger. "Can't see anything in this damn ash. I'll fly up to see if it gets any better. Wait for my signal. Three flashes, alright." There is no masking the disappointment in Harry's upturned face as you zoom off, nor that other emotion you'd been hopping to see there for so long. Too bad it came a heavy helping of guilt like plastic wrap on a birthday cake. God damn it! Go to confessional or something Harry! Alas that's not something you can shout in parting no matter how much he needs to hear it.

Lost 1 Essence (BRR) -> Now at 12/18

Intimacy Harry Dresden (Crush) changes to Intimacy Harry Dresden (Frustrated Crush)


The ash does in fact get thinner, enough that you can see Harry is currently on the edge of a winding jagged canyon which cuts across a blasted moonscape where the air is ash, the water poison and at first at least you think there is no life. That is until you realize that those hillocks in the distance, all arrayed in a line are crawling across the face of the blasted land occasionally letting out a loud wailing bungle, heavy with alien sorrows.

There's very little here that looks like the Earth you're familiar with, you realize suddenly. This place is either a lot deeper in the Spirit World than all of its neighbors or something from the deeper reaches had clawed its way up here and established a presence. Given the Fey Courts' presence in the city it can't be too disruptive. Then again, given your suspicions that it may be responsible for the Great Chicago Fire, one would do well to remember that the standards of the fey are not those of men.

Looking around for more... 'hill herds' for lack of a better term, you spot what might be another smaller one on the other side of Harry, you had given up on cardinality by now, and a single jagged mountain looking lonely to the right. As you watch it starts to shift, to rumble and then explode in a shower of hot smoke and molten stone like a mane flowing over the dark stone.

"Good news, I found the troublemaker, bad news, he's about two thousand feet high and a volcano," you inform Harry on your descent, feeling a little better. "Do you want to introduce yourself first or should I?"

"It's not bothering anyone, we could just leave well enough alone," he points out, though he does not sound like he means it, more like it's the responsible thing, the 'adult' thing to say. And just like that the good mood's gone.

"It looked pretty upset, I don't know about you but when something that big looks upset, I think it is a good idea to at least ask what the problem is. Plus you like fire right? Imagine if you could cut some kind of deal how useful it might be to enchanting or large scale warding. Fire purifies and that's a lot of fire." You consider your next words with care... it's the safest way to do this. "Come on, I'll carry you."

And that is how you end up playing Superman to his Lois Lane as you approach the enormous elemental crowned with a mane of fire.

What do you do?

[] Take the lead, claim Porter told you a lot about him and so did all the spirits of genius, try to butter it up (Charisma+Subterfuge)

[] Ask what ails this domain, you would help if you can (Charisma Etiquette)

[] Write in


OOC: Molly is convinced that if Harry went to confess his perceived sins to say Father Forthil the priest would dispel the motion that he has anything to feel guilty over. This may not entirely reflect the position of the character, you're inside her head not his.
 
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[X] Ask what ails this domain, you would help if you can (Charisma Etiquette)
This is molly's worst part. I hope we cam change it sooner rather than later.

He is ultimately a loser not worth our time. Also super old.
... Not really? I mean, he's a harem protagonist, and he's very young, pretty much Molly's generation in wizarding terms. He's also heir of a long line of wizards. He's not yet financially secure, but that will come later.
 
[X] Ask what ails this domain, you would help if you can (Charisma Etiquette)

... Not really? I mean, he's a harem protagonist, and he's very young, pretty much Molly's generation in wizarding terms. He's also heir of a long line of wizards. He's not yet financially secure, but that will come later.
What in the hell? Harry was never a Harem protagonist, he was always faithful to his current girlfriend at the time, although others try to seduce him, especially supernaturally attractive monsters like Lara and Maeve. Please don't insult Harry like that.

And besides, the big problem with this relationship has already been mentioned and it's nothing like what you mentioned, it's just a simple fact (that people like to ignore it seems): he personally doesn't feel at all comfortable with the idea of a relationship with Molly.
 
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Sighs

This is why I wanted her to try dating him for a bit and then have it not work out like we all know it won't instead of having to agonizingly crush down her own feelings while the stupid caveman fails every one of his subtlety rolls. Sadly we seem to have gotten the worst of both worlds at this point…. Hmmm I guess we need to work on getting Molly a partner or three to explore herself with sooner than later if she's going to be dealing with this nonsense for long

[X] Ask what ails this domain, you would help if you can (Charisma Etiquette)
 
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What in the hell? Harry was never a Harem protagonist, he was always faithful to his current girlfriend at the time, although others try to seduce him, especially supernaturally attractive monsters like Lara and Maeve. Please don't insult Harry like that.

And besides, the big problem with this relationship has already been mentioned and it's nothing like what you mentioned, it's just a simple fact (that people like to ignore it seems): he personally doesn't feel at all comfortable with the idea of a relationship with Molly.

To be fair there is an entire field of human experience that deals with making someone (more) comfortable at the idea of a relationship, it is called courtship. The question before Molly is if he is so ill at ease that it is not worth attempting it, if the potential outcomes are so bad that she should not even try.
 
[X] Ask what ails this domain, you would help if you can (Charisma Etiquette)
 
What in the hell? Harry was never a Harem protagonist, he was always faithful to his current girlfriend at the time, although others try to seduce him, especially supernaturally attractive monsters like Lara and Maeve. Please don't insult Harry like that.
Harry is a harem protagonist. Just not modern harem anime. Think Ranma, not whatever it is they push out now.
 
[X] Ask what ails this domain, you would help if you can (Charisma Etiquette)

... Not really? I mean, he's a harem protagonist, and he's very young, pretty much Molly's generation in wizarding terms. He's also heir of a long line of wizards. He's not yet financially secure, but that will come later.
He is like thirty crushing on a 18 year old. She is still in fucking highschool.
 
It opens sulfurous eyes bright as lanterns among a rain of ash, 'alchemist' it names you
How did it know we practiced alchemy? Is that something some creatures can tell just by looking at us?



@DragonParadox Errors.
only discover only thanks to Harry just as you are about to use one of them as a handhold to get a better look up ahead. It opens sulfurous eyes bright as lanterns among a rain of ash, 'alchemist' it names you and by its twisting coils shows you honor. Still it would have bitten you for that is simply its nature you now, yet you cannot help but be charmed by its listing of local alchemical supplies 'so that you would not have to go so far afield for answers, for wisdom'. You bow and give thanks, where else could once have learned that rubber scraped off hot concrete can be used in potions to ward off fever.
One of those "only" needs to be removed. Also may need a question mark at the end not sure.
You are just going to take a strange snake's word for something? Didn't your parents teach you about stranger danger." Harry asks, the smile hiding serious concern.
If they wanted visitors they shouldn't live in a place that's like if the Cretan Labyrinth was built by M. C.
Unneeded space in "M.C.".
 
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