Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

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"Thought so," Lash gives says, clearly commiserating. "I wasn't sure if the neutrality was internally enforced or not, but as is... we cannot do anything with the girl if we let her live right? I can't take her and she can't take her even..." she looks towards Dad.

Pick one or the other but you can't use both words one after another here.

"That's just how the shit breaks ain't it?" the bodyguard to her right offers. "If this were a regular bar I'd offer to get you a drink of choke that one down, but you know..." He trails off with a wave in Mac's direction.

Please rerail this lexicological train wreck.

Having settled the goals of the goals of common action it is now time to put it into practice. The Archive will travel the ways into the Heart of Summer to warn Titania of the rot among the Court's ranks while Harry your father and Lash will travel to NYC to stake out Katherine, As for you, there is an argument to be made for either. On the one hand an introduction from the Archive would provide one of the better chances to make a good impression on the Summer Court. On the other your insights would be invaluable to the investigation.

doubled up three words in row

Harry, your not Harry your

Katherine. As not Katherine, As

I'll stay out of the vote this time.
 
not your father suddenly studying you intently, not the Archive whom you are addressing.

Deep breath Molly... "I could help Katherine adjust if she needs it. " You do not go quite so far as to say 'well she could worship me instead of the Old Ones', but no one misses the implication.

"[Suggestion unworkable/Aid would be withdrawn.]," the Archive snaps, then she presses her hand over her mouth, embarrassed. "[It would constitute a violation of standing-neutrality for me to aid in such empowering of an outside power as a consequence of the Prime Function.]"

"Thought so," Lash says, clearly commiserating. "I wasn't sure if the neutrality was internally enforced or not, but as is... we cannot do anything with the girl if we let her live right? I can't take her and she can't take her even..." she looks towards Dad.
Yeah, this wasn't a good idea. Unworkable practically and it's probably going to result in an unpleasant conversation with Micheal later.

I'm not impressed by the reframing; this was a pretty ham fisted and OOC way to dress up a benefit to us as generosity.

[X] Travel to Avalon with the Archive and Kincaid to speak with Titania

If we just send the Archive Titania is going to kill the nemesis pawns where we can save them, and our presence isn't that valuable for the cult.

Also, the whole point of this was to help us with Summer so not showing up would be a waste.
 
[X] Travel to Avalon with the Archive and Kincaid to speak with Titania

Going with the super-powerful girl struggling to exist as herself despite her Mantle to discuss helping another super-powerful girl struggling to exist as herself despite her Mantle seems like the kind of political power move that the Fae will respect. Or, at the very least, Titania's gonna be wary of refusing Molly with the Archive right there.

It's not like the Archive's gonna do anything if Titania does blow Molly off, but the face and respect lost would be considerable and relevant to the fae nobility.
 
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[X] Travel to Avalon with the Archive and Kincaid to speak with Titania

Going with the super-powerful girl struggling to exist as herself despite her Mantle to discuss helping another super-powerful girl struggling to exist as herself despite her Mantle seems like the kind of political power move that the Fae will respect. Or, at the very least, Titania's gonna be wary of refusing Molly with the Archive right there.

It's not like the Archive's gonna do anything if Titania does blow Molly off, but the face and respect lost would be considerable and relevant to the fae nobility.

The idea was more that the Archive will cover for you. She will say she has insights into Nemesis. Even Titania will accept 'bitch I am the Archive*' as the means by by which she knew this. In exchange you owe her 3 splendors to be used by the Ventori, though you have convinced her not to use one for herself until further study.

*probably more politely phrased, Ivy is a nice girl even if she does know all the bad words ever.
:V
 
Yeah, but even so I think Titania will have a harder time thinking of an excuse to reject Molly's gift for Lily with the Archive staring at her the whole time :drevil:
 
Yeah, this wasn't a good idea. Unworkable practically and it's probably going to result in an unpleasant conversation with Micheal later.

I'm not impressed by the reframing; this was a pretty ham fisted and OOC way to dress up a benefit to us as generosity.
I think this was needed to come to "send her to Order of Cauldron" outcome.

The idea was more that the Archive will cover for you. She will say she has insights into Nemesis. Even Titania will accept 'bitch I am the Archive*' as the means by by which she knew this. In exchange you owe her 3 splendors to be used by the Ventori, though you have convinced her not to use one for herself until further study.

*probably more politely phrased, Ivy is a nice girl even if she does know all the bad words ever. :V
We need to go hunting... We don't have enough resources to make all three, unless we spend gossamer, and I am loathe to do that.
 
[X] Travel to Avalon with the Archive and Kincaid to speak with Titania
Molly/Dresden could work, but I don't think it will in this quest
 
I think this was needed to come to "send her to Order of Cauldron" outcome.
I don't recall that being part of the argument you made for doing it, and I don't see why it'd be necessary for making that proposal instead.

Offering to make sure she has somewhere to go doesn't require seeing if she'd take a different cult first. The placement of that suggestion may have been why she rejected the memory splendor; it sounded a hair too close to bribing her for support expanding.
We need to go hunting... We don't have enough resources to make all three, unless we spend gossamer, and I am loathe to do that.
She wants the 2 dot mind+ possession immunity right? That should be 1 monster a head.
 
So, it occurs to me - if Archive has Deep Exalted Lore (tm), what are the chances she has records of celestial, if not sidereal martial arts? not the ability to perform them, but the manuals themselves?

Also... is she Broken Winged Crane?
 
I don't recall that being part of the argument you made for doing it, and I don't see why it'd be necessary for making that proposal instead.

Offering to make sure she has somewhere to go doesn't require seeing if she'd take a different cult first. The placement of that suggestion may have been why she rejected the memory splendor; it sounded a hair too close to bribing her for support expanding.
It wasn't my argument when I was making it, I freely admit that, but I think it worked out that way.
She wants the 2 dot mind+ possession immunity right? That should be 1 monster a head.
Or two "mook tier" elders. Of course, if we end up exorcising and executing four nemesis shards, I think that would pay both for Ivy's commissions, and for Molly's and Lydia's panoply (3 dot armors, 1 or even a 3 dot whip for Lydia).
 
Also feel that Titania is our best bet here, a chance to build up a rapport without the negative connotations to our connection to Dresden.

[X] Travel to Avalon with the Archive and Kincaid to speak with Titania
 
Between Harry, Lash, Michael and Lydia, I am fairly sure that the concentration of force, authority and excellence is enough to roll over a lot of opposition. They don't really need us there. Avalon it is.
 
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[X] Travel to Avalon with the Archive and Kincaid to speak with Titania

This is the perfect opportunity for us to sell our Exorcism services to Summer in exchange for boons. (Elemental Wood! Complete the quintet! Jade for Manse-building!)

Just get rid of their Nemesis problem in exchange for payment. Simple transaction with the Archive vouching for us.
 
It wasn't my argument when I was making it, I freely admit that, but I think it worked out that way

It's fortunate we had a soft landing out of this, but I don't think the worship thing was necessary to reach this conclusion.

Or two "mook tier" elders. Of course, if we end up exorcising and executing four nemesis shards, I think that would pay both for Ivy's commissions, and for Molly's and Lydia's panoply (3 dot armors, 1 or even a 3 dot whip for Lydia).
The section on this isn't very informative in terms of how many "samples" we can hold.

Gather the Power: Splendors are formed from concentrated supernatural power. The Charms
that enable an Exalt to create a Splendor also allow her to capture such power within the cage of
her Essence and to store it for up to (Essence rating) stories before it dissipates. During that time,
she must advance to the next steps and use the power before it dissipates.

Did we ever get a ruling on if this feature was in use and how many it could hold at a time?
 
It's fortunate we had a soft landing out of this, but I don't think the worship thing was necessary to reach this conclusion.


The section on this isn't very informative in terms of how many "samples" we can hold.



Did we ever get a ruling on if this feature was in use and how many it could hold at a time?

The doc has the premise that you have to capture souls with the 1 dot prodigy you used on Lash. I'm letting you guys use bodies since well that makes sense in the canon of exalted. Essence is not just souls, though if you do want to use souls.... well that is an option. :tongue:
 
We need to go hunting... We don't have enough resources to make all three, unless we spend gossamer, and I am loathe to do that.
1) Not to rehash old votes, but this here?
Is one of the reasons I have reservations about and generally oppose your making broad promises and commitments about delivering Splendors and Prodigies and making magical shit for people.

We have to scramble to try to meet these hard commitments, and it distorts all our priorities.
Its not like these are goods you can fabricate with raw materials you buy at Home Depot with a credit card.

This is, by my count?
At least 3AP of Splendors we are currently locked into making to supply Ivy and the Venators with 3x Spendors.
And thats not counting any AP that may be required to find and harvest the raw materials necessary for making a Splendor.

Keep this in mind the next time you start thinking of throwing in Splendors into a plan proposal.



2) Furthermore, its not IC for Molly Carpenter to go looking for people to kill in order to make stuff.
Loot them from people she already has to kill? Sure; waste not want not. Renewable raw materials she can use? Sure; if she can harvest potential from an unclaimed Dragons Nest without destroying it, she'll do it.

Go looking for people to kill as reagents? Even evil people? Thats not the daughter of Michael and Charity Carpenter raised

And as we saw in this update with the suggestion of wiping memories, Molly's personal experience and ethics informs how she reacts to events and proposals.
The fact that we put it in her mouth doesnt mean she will be OK with it.


3)However in this case?
We're going to Las Vegas, Sin City itself, in pursuit of an Outsider agent in a city established by the power of a Sin-Eater, and run by his seneschal. And we might have to stab a shard or two of Nemesis in the eye before that.

I am reasonably sure that we'll probably be able to meet the requirements for at least 1x 2/3-dot by the end of the month.
Then next month we go back to Cleveland and harvest some potential/Tass from the ex-Pathfinder Dragons Nest there for another 2/3 dot Splendor.

At worst? Ivy isnt going to expect full delivery immediately; most magic artifice in the Dresden Files takes rather longer than a couple days, and I dont think she expects us to literally drop everything to fulfill that order.
If our delivery deadline is a year, we spread out manufacture and delivery.
 
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