Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
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It depends.
RaW they don't matter at all, because the only reagent that matters is the stolen essence of our enemies. That said, the build up of reagents in our vault and the various ways they've been awarded sort of imply we'll be allowed to use them for something.
Edit: for splendors anyway. Prodigies can use this stuff, but the most powerful ones also require killing things.
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On the Matter of Reagents
By RaW if you did not kill something to get reagents it does not count for splendors. That is in my humble opinion a bad system, as it encourages killing as the basis for First Age miracles. Certainly death is a powerful moment and it speaks to a great deal of skill to be able to slay a mighty foe, but as the Eclipse and Moonshadows of the world would be quick to point out as they reshape entire nations with word and quill, it is not the only powerful moment.
The basis of splendors should be anchored in doing great deeds, getting Lilly to open up about her struggles here is the start of a great deed, one that requires you guys to reckon with Titania and the politics of Summer, with the intrigues and plots of those who would use Lilly etc... She herself is an incarna and though those tears are not as potent as her soul they still represent a thing of weight and power in the world, enough to make a one or two dot splendor as if you had killed an elder vampire or the like. So yes you can use the tears to make the splendor you have in mind.
What is the catch then? The catch is if you use it to help Lilly you cannot use it for anything else no more and no less. The choice if yours
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So if we give Lilly something that protects her from mental influence does she then become able to lie or is not being able to lie now part of her base nature?
The latter. Your splendors are not Nemesis. Molly might conceivably be able to do that for a lesser fey by carving the changes right on their souls, but that is outside the bounds of the current craft system, which only deals with carving things onto the souls of Exalts. She would have to figure out how fey souls work.
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I would expect that to be an application of Formori Charms.
Fomori charms work on humans, there is only one that works on supernatural beings and it is not nice. The words 'being devoured by maggots' are involved.
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That's because humans are so nicely malleable. Why else would every other type of supernatural creature seem to have started out as a human? Unfried clay with the free will to choice to become anything.
So obviously if you are working with hardened clay you need to break it down first.
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Ohhh burrowing owls! Lovely little things. To expand on the whole point about burrowing owls being the weirdos of the owl world theyre diurnal vs noctural or crepuscular. Their eyes are adapted to working during the day, and their skulls dont have as dramatic ear channels as other owls typically do either!
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Family moment ho! Also I somehow doubt decades old highly repressed magic lore is gonna give much than poking at Charity's mental scabs.
Cool, I did not know all that, always nice to learn. The point of the owl in this context was to play off Lilly's earlier comparison of her being a gofer, human, that did not want wings, to become fey, but got them. Here is a bird that lives part of its life underground in a burrow.
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Ah I was reading the metaphor as "even if you've been turned into an owl (fey) you can still be the weirdest/nonconforming owl ever"
BoredMan
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Lol now I want to burn a favor on Slate even less. Also is it Slate or Slade?
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That too but it goes deeper, Molly is the prairie dog in this animal/cartoon comparison, she is the one building the shelter for the bird to do non-bird things in
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I have a feeling this is very much relevant:
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It might have been accidental, but this was the highest form of punning where both meanings of the word in the sentence are correct.
Not sure I understand this? I men, if we use a material for X, it'll get used up, that goes without saying. Or do you mean that we'll lock in the potential uses of Lily's tears from here on out?
... This is modern world. Do Molly and/or Lily know Warhammer 40k? Because we are basically making Lily a spirit stone to guard her soul, and are using tears as the source material. I mean, she's Lileath, not Isha, but still.
It was intentional yeah
- You are not missing anything, the opportunity cost is 'you are literally using part of the reward to pass the trial'
- I'm going to say that Molly knows of warhammer but not enough to get that reference, she is more of a D&D player
The whole owl thing could be a fun thematic for the eventual item.
We want something that falls between the form of dreams and form of moonlight descriptions:
So something that is the platonic ideal of an otherworldly image whose true nature as impossible magic is only visible under supernatural senses. Save perhaps, for the single bit of unnatural power it gets as flavor.
We're shielding her from mantle without disconnecting it, so a cloudy summer sky seems like a fun theme.
If we don't want to use white jade we could also use vampire bones, but that might give the wrong impression.
We want something that falls between the form of dreams and form of moonlight descriptions:
So something that is the platonic ideal of an otherworldly image whose true nature as impossible magic is only visible under supernatural senses. Save perhaps, for the single bit of unnatural power it gets as flavor.
This talisman appears at first glance to be a small owl carved of fine white jade, with eyes of polished obsidian and claws dusted in gold.
The longer one looks however, the more uncanny the details of the craftsmanship seem. Carvings that are too fine, too real, to be done in stone. Most unsettlingly is that it always happens to be meeting the viewer's gaze without seeming to move, no matter how many people are watching it at once.
To eyes opened to fey truths the jade falls away to reveal what appears to be a captured fragment of the sky. A cloudy day that softens the touch of the summer sun even if it does not completely banish it. Bathed in a subtle glow of its own making it seems less a physical object and more a tear through which something greater can almost be seen.
Abilities:
Immunity to possession
Immunity to mind control
Increased glamor resistance
Passive spirit world interaction
Minor cosmetic ability: Always appears to be matching the gaze of anyone looking at it, regardless of number or position.
The longer one looks however, the more uncanny the details of the craftsmanship seem. Carvings that are too fine, too real, to be done in stone. Most unsettlingly is that it always happens to be meeting the viewer's gaze without seeming to move, no matter how many people are watching it at once.
To eyes opened to fey truths the jade falls away to reveal what appears to be a captured fragment of the sky. A cloudy day that softens the touch of the summer sun even if it does not completely banish it. Bathed in a subtle glow of its own making it seems less a physical object and more a tear through which something greater can almost be seen.
Abilities:
Immunity to possession
Immunity to mind control
Increased glamor resistance
Passive spirit world interaction
Minor cosmetic ability: Always appears to be matching the gaze of anyone looking at it, regardless of number or position.
We're shielding her from mantle without disconnecting it, so a cloudy summer sky seems like a fun theme.
If we don't want to use white jade we could also use vampire bones, but that might give the wrong impression.
I think using her tears works more than well enough. We get a lot of advertisement out of it.
Maybe. We have a decent amount of vampire bits and can get more, tears of a fey Queen are a bit harder to come by.
In any case the body needs to appear to be made of something, so even if it's fueled by her tears the white Jade look would still work.
Maybe we boil her tears to trap and enhance into "clouds" or something like that if we use them here, or ritually polish stone with them to transfer the power.
It's magic. Crystallize the tears and form a diamond-like gem out of them. If those were Maeve's I would say "freeze them and the magic of the splendor will keep them frozen". I mean, splendors are congealed spells. They are normally dissolved in one's anima, so the material component is more symbolic than anything.