Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

@DragonParadox what level of Oneiromancy path would Rosie need to be at in order to run dream D&D campaigns? Starting with "people are gathered in a dream room with animated figurines and some special effects" and all the way to "fully immersive campaigns with simulated environment and time dilation".
 
While I very much would like to see Molly talk to Mothers (who might or might not actually be one person co-locating), it was said that Molly is not quite confident enough to call them just to give them a Christmas gift.
I wasn't thinking of calling them up. I was picturing passing it along via family when we give the Queens their gift. The equivalent of a card through the mail.
 
I wasn't thinking of calling them up. I was picturing passing it along via family when we give the Queens their gift. The equivalent of a card through the mail.
Ok, yeah. Edited the vote to passing three bottles.
She can do it with one player now, but if you want a shared dream with a full party that is level 5.
Well, she has a lot of training left to do. Is projecting yourself into someone's dream to sooth a nightmare a Law violation? I think this might be a borderline case.

Also, can she contact coma patients, or does coma not work as a dream? If she can, Helen Beckitt has a comatose daughter - Rosie could facilitate contact before we cure her.
 
While I very much would like to see Molly talk to Mothers (who might or might not actually be one person co-locating), it was said that Molly is not quite confident enough to call them just to give them a Christmas gift.
Technically we don't need to call them, just send them the bottles via messenger.

The Mothers, or at least Mother Summer, do big business in faerie and the other Queens run the place on a day to day level. They've got to have the equivalent of mailing addresses and using them can't be so scary no one ever wants to try delivering them stuff.

If we did include all the queens, which I'm not convinced is any better than sending a holiday card to Sauron, I think a modification would be in order:


Arctic Absinthe - A spirit fermented from fresh Ascetic's Root and those few lightless plants of the waste that are edible to mortals. When swirled carefully in a glass the otherwise clear liquid almost seems to contain a trapped aurora borealis. Taken by the shot it is almost bitterly cold, most comparable to an invigorating mint though it doesn't quite match any earthly flavor, settling into a spicy heat.

- Maiden's Bottle: A high quality example of the drink, sharp and cold as a new Winter's breeze. The bottle itself is shaped somewhere between a perfectly clear hailstone and a gem.

- Matron's Bottle: With considerably more age behind it, the colors of the false-aurora are somehow deeper. The taste is fuller, so bitterly cold most feel they've jumped into arctic water and feel a creeping numbness in their mouths for minutes after taking a shot. Through a trick of perspective, the bottle appears to be a gathering storm only partially masking the aurora within.

- Crone's Bottle: This is the ultimate form of the drink, aged in geomantically aligned caves in places that have never known the touch of light. The clear liquid soaks in that environment in an almost alchemical process, thereafter absorbing all light that touches it. When moves the aurora appears as if in a sky without stars. A taste of this burns like frostbite and focuses the mind like the thought of being lost in a storm. It is said the recipe was produced by ascetics' seeking the wisdom of the wastes, and that they were among the few brave enough to drink it.

Unlike the others, this one is bottled in hand carved white jade, to better protect the beverage, but comes with a crystal clear glass. At first it seems mundane, but when pouring a glass the lights refract through careful carvings in the base, giving the appearance of night falling over an isolated village somewhere dark and cold.

Bright Brandy - Traditionally distilled from the shock-fruit of the near forests, this beverage undergoes a natural form of electrochemical fermentation over a fivefold distilling process. A cloudy white color, as it moves forking yellow streaks form and break apart, giving a false sense of depth. A sweet and tangy taste, it crackles in the mouth and leaves a tingling numbness going down.

- Maiden's Bottle: A high quality example of the drink, as bright and quick as lighting in a summer storm. The bottle itself is shaped like a single perfect raindrop.

- Matron's Bottle: Carefully prepared and aged, the clouds of this bottle are as dark as thunderclouds and the bolts so bright they seem to glow. When opened it smells of ozone and something just off of freshly cut grass. The taste is sweet and tangy, but leaves an invigorating tingle of electricity behind as an aftertaste. The bottle itself is formed in the likeness of the trees of the Fivefold Courts, appearing to drink the lighting in the bottle as it's poured.

- Crone's Bottle: The pinnacle of bright brandy, this drink at first appears more lighting than cloud, glowing from within as the result of aging in a ritually prepared power-drinking tree. It smells of ozone, new growth, and a hint of smoke. The taste is still sweet, but drier than younger vintages, and the shock seems deeper than the strictly physical. The tingling sensation of electricity gradually gives way to a bone deep warmth as the aftertaste fades.
The bottle itself is ivory of an enormous beast, carved with scenes of the hunt that killed it. Included is a glass of perfect crystal; when the brandy is poured into it the light flickers through careful carvings in the base, showing a slice of alien forest reaching for the life and light above.

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Something like that at least, because if you're catching the attention of all the queens of faerie at once you damn well better go all out. Maybe the audacity would be enough to keep us alive.
 
Yeah, not sure it's a great idea myself. I was mostly having fun designing higher levels of weird supernatural booze for the FCF.

That said, if we do we should go for gold. The only thing worse than calling on them frivolously would be calling on them and half assing it.
You should probably look back at the vote then as it was edited.
Ok, yeah. Edited the vote to passing three bottles.
I'm not okay with that. It feels to me like opening a can of worms for shits and giggles. The Queens and the Mothers are two very different things.

Are you willing to remove the Mothers from it or are you set on that? It invites needless attention from dangerous entities.
 
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Yeah, not sure it's a great idea myself. I was mostly having fun designing higher levels of weird supernatural booze for the FCF.

That said, if we do we should go for gold. The only thing worse than calling on them frivolously would be calling on them and half assing it.
Ideally whatever we give them would be more than a novelty. It should be something to ease their burdens in one manner or another as otherwise it might be seen as mocking. Athropos we knows is in constant pain from the ages and her trials bearing down on her to the point that not having her walking stick with her had her lashing out at Dresden with a cleaver.

I mean, she probably was never particularly disinclined to murder but its still a sign she is in bad shape. Frivolity before someone in pain makes it likely for them to share that pain.
 
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Gifts Abound​
20th of December 2006 A.D.
-I expected that Molly would have gotten Bob a Brass Court computer. Not that it matters
-72 hours suggests Molly just worked through a weekend.
We really need to prioritize that dimensional phone as a crafting project
You can hear the phone shift against her hair as Mon shakes her head. "I almost miss the times when it was just parties."
Charity: I wish Molly wasnt so wild and rebellious
*monkey's paw curls*

What other Christmas presents do you want to get?
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[X]Plan Friend Zone
-[X]Concert tickets for Izzy, Alec and Olivia
-[X]Gold and silver ear rings for Rosie and Isabella
-[X]Case of exotic alcohol for Thomas and Murphy
-[X]Model train for Porter
-[X]Cards for Cauldron
-[X]Jade Dogs bonus/gift/feast funding
-[X]Winter Queens: Arctic Absinthe
-[X]Summer Queens: Bright Brandy
-[X]Brass Court shoes for Lydia
-[X]Appropriate alcohol for Donar Vadderung and Gard
-[X]Book on philosophy + spidersilk monk robe for Brother Devisimar


RATIONALE
Concert tickets circa 2006 were sub-50 dollars; My Chemical Romance's concert tour in 2007 was 30-70 dollars depending on seating.So assuming concert tickets for 3x teenagers should cost Molly $200 or less.

Isabella is rich enough to afford her own concert tickets, and Rosie is too pregnant to go to a music concert.
So ear rings; Molly could make some in an hour from off the shelf raw materials.

Gold in 2006 is sub-$20 per gram. Silver is ~$0.25 per gram. Platinum is ~$30 a gram. Palladium is ~$10 a gram. Assuming she buys raw gold and silver instead of simply taking some from the Courts, two pairs of 1-gram earrings made of precious metals will cost sub-$80 and take her an hour or two to throw together.

Everything else from the Brass Courts
 
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I'm not okay with that. It feels to me like opening a can of worms for shits and giggles. The Queens and the Mothers are two very different things.

Are you willing to remove the Mothers from it or are you set on that? It invites needless attention from dangerous entities.
I am not set on this, no. How about splitting the difference and asking whoever we call up if this is appropriate? Maybe also roll etiquette and/or occult excellency to check if this is a good idea.

EDIT: I removed the Mothers for now. We haven't had interactions with them at all, and they are kinda a big deal to involve.
 
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No swordstand or other gifts for Amoracchius? We learned that they are a person after all. And stealing some of your stuff (vote updated below, to clearly delienate update to the plan, in case anyone does not like the updates):

[X] Plan Gifts and Feasts
-[X] Mab, Maeve : Arctic Absinthe - A spirit fermented from fresh Ascetic's Root and those few lightless plants of the waste that are edible to mortals. When swirled carefully in a glass the otherwise clear liquid almost seems to contain a trapped aurora borealis. Taken by the shot it is almost bitterly cold, most comparable to an invigorating mint though it doesn't quite match any earthly flavor, settling into a spicy heat.
-[X] Summer Queen, Lady: Bright Brandy - Traditionally distilled from the shock-fruit of the near forests, this beverage undergoes a natural form of electrochemical fermentation over a fivefold distilling process. A cloudy white color, as it moves forking yellow streaks form and break apart, giving a false sense of depth. A sweet and tangy taste, it crackles in the mouth and leaves a tingling numbness going down.
-[X] An ultra-comfortable sword-stand for Amoracchius, with minor enchantment for cleaning - an analog of ultra-comfrotable massage chair, but for a sword
-[X] Decals for Santa's sleigh for Santa
-[X] A Feast for Jade Dogs, made with full exalted effort
-[X] Model train set for Porter
-[X] some nice Christmas-Cards to the Cauldronists
-[X] Wine for Thomas
-[X] morphing shoes that always provide perfect support, no matter if they look like high heels or sneakers or anything else for Lydia
-[X]Concert tickets for Izzy, Alec and Olivia
-[X]Gold and silver ear rings for Rosie and Isabella
-[X]Case of exotic alcohol for Thomas and Murphy
-[X]Book on philosophy + spidersilk monk robe for Brother Devisimar
 
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I am not set on this, no. How about splitting the difference and asking whoever we call up if this is appropriate? Maybe also roll etiquette and/or occult excellency to check if this is a good idea.

EDIT: I removed the Mothers for now. We haven't had interactions with them at all, and they are kinda a big deal to involve.
Tbh it's less it being appropiate and moreso drawing their gaze might not be in our best interest right now. They most likely have inhuman mindsets even if the fey are more human than they would like people to believe it could cause problems.

This is basicly giving them an excuse/invitation to get involved with us when they normally aren't allowed.

Thx for removing it.
 
Ideally whatever we give them would be more than a novelty. It should be something to ease their burdens in one manner or another as otherwise it might be seen as mocking. Athropos we knows is in constant pain from the ages and her trials bearing down on her to the point that not having her walking stick with her had her lashing out at Dresden with a cleaver.

I mean, she probably was never particularly disinclined to murder but its still a sign she is in bad shape. Frivolity before someone in pain makes it likely for them to share that pain.
Could we make Mother Winter a good walking stick?
 
Molly doesn't know about her problems right now. It would also probably need some kind of rare tree material to take on a part of her burdens. Which would be hard to find.
A twig off Yggdrasil, a piece of elemental wood from beyond the pole, etc.

Although I suppose it doesn't actually have to be wood. Ice would be thematics as well. So ice from Kakuri would work. Or soul steel. I don't think we need the body of dead enemy to manage but it would need higher grade matter then we can just buy in the store.

Feels like a 3 dot spender to me just based on feeling.
 
Molly doesn't know about her problems right now. It would also probably need some kind of rare tree material to take on a part of her burdens. Which would be hard to find.
Pretty much. The woman deserves a break, honestly, and I'm not particularly fearing her attention. But right now she is only a name to us.

If we do meet her I'd absolutely be all-in on improving her quality of life. Ideally enough that she would never need a walking stick ever again... but the fact that she can't or won't do that herself is telling. Being crushed down by her mantle is either too much for accessible relief... and holy shit must it be heavy for someone to not have fixed it by now... or its so inherent in the mantle that its pretty much required. Not being crushed down meaning not being the Mother.

Seriously, think of the things that would have used it to buy favor if they could. Genuine gods during their glory days would have if they could, ignoring Mab herself. We can put your average glory-day-god to shame but it wouldn't be a light matter. It would mean fucking with the natural order of the world on the order of what we are doing with Lash or worse.

If it wasn't like that it would already be done.
 
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The thing is Mage draws a very thick line between Hedge Magic or linear magic and Magick. You can learn linear magic as a member of other plats.
My apologies for picking at this detail, but to my knowledge thats not accurate.

The only playable splats who have access to linear magic are Sorcerers(mortal), Hunters(mortal), Kinfolk(mortal), Bastet and Kitsune(Fera). Bastet are specifically noted to have an affinity for stealing magic from others (Gifts, rituals, hedge magic) from others by observation, as do Kitsune, which is represented by the Breed-exclusive 7-dot Cat/Fox Magic Merit.

Mortals who are initiated into another splat (Kinfolk who become Garou, mortals who become Vampires) promptly lose all access to linear magic. Other splats have their own native magics(Vamps have blood sorcery, Mummies have Hekau, etc)
But they dont get linear sorcery Paths.

Think of it this way: If that was possible, the Technocracy would have drowned the Traditions in Victor clones with linear magic using the same means of teaching them everything else. The potential for producing HITMarks with linear sorcery is a moderately terrifying thing; the Technocracy already has a lot of infrastructural advantages.

No swordstand or other gifts for Amoracchius? We learned that they are a person after all. And stealing some of your stuff (vote updated below, to clearly delienate update to the plan, in case anyone does not like the updates):
Amoracchius isnt a person; more that there is an angel inside Amoracchius, and inside each of the Swords.
If I was going to make anything for Amoracchius, it would be a scabbard. But I honestly feel its more than a little presumptuous; a little like trying to paint someone else's house/car.

EDIT: I removed the Mothers for now. We haven't had interactions with them at all, and they are kinda a big deal to involve.
Good call.
We know the Mothers exist, but we've never met them, nor do we have any sort of relationship.
And frankly, we dont know enough about their role in the power structure to go blundering in there.
 
-[X]Appropriate alcohol for Donar Vadderung and Gard
Merry Mead: In the near forests there is a species almost like a bee, save that they have iron shells and are most of 2 meters long. Their stingers are filled with a most unusual venom; in high doses it induces painful and terrifying hallucinations, but diluted properly and ingested it makes for a heady sort of liquid courage. The honey produced in their enormous hives is also delicious, light and sweet with an undertone of spices not quite like anything on earth.

When mixed with their venom and fermented into a beverage, you get a surprising and powerful drink. The lifted spirits make it a particularly energetic and social beverage, resulting in a popular association with holiday cheer.

While other methods exist in the modern world, traditionally venom and honey were collected via raid as domesticating armored bugs longer than the average arm was difficult with preindustrial technology. The highest quality brewers still insist on using traditional harvesting practices, and include the highlights of the excursion behind each bottle on the label.

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Mead for Odin, with a raid mechanic because fighting giant bugs to get drunk/high feels like a viking things to do.
 
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