Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

Sure you are. Is Molly? Because we are roleplaying her.
Every body Molly kills is someone she has to carry for however long she lives.
Do remember that even Dresden has let multiple assassins, from Binder to Stevie, walk away after taking a shot at him.
Molly never had strong reactions to killing.
Neither anything visceral in the first moments, nor worrying much about it later.

Neither for active combatants or the Skinwalker we had captive.

She avoids killing when there's practical alternatives, but sometimes it is the best option.
 
Arc 10 Post 9: Uncanny Sights
Uncanny Sights

3rd of December 2006 A.D.

Namuru, the City of Death does not at first glance live up to its dread name, towers of steel and concrete rise in patterns like earthly constellations upon the great pillar, their windows alight with subtly different shades of radiance, according to the tastes and preferences of the dwellers within, surrounded by parks mantled blue-green life and filled with birdsong. Or dinosaur song maybe? Whatever the case the Goldcrests are out in force among the branches, warbling excitedly to one another as if the excitement of the city had caught them in its web. Or maybe its just that Olivia had taken to feeding them with the dedication of a habitual pigeon watcher. Either way whenever one of them takes a morsel from her hand the other park-goers try to tempt it to come over so they can pet it. For your part you keep your hands off any almost-birds so as not to accidentally impart some kind of sacred meaning to them.


So far Olivia had taken the revelation of another world beneath the one she knows, a world where you are queen about as well as could be expected, disbelief then questions then just not knowing where to look. At the trio 'line surfing' with bootleg grav-boards down the secondary power lines? The tocatli unloading bales of golden thread from the silk-farm, possibly their own production to judge by the rough and unadorned nature of their jumpsuits? The seta mystics floating serenely above, censers trailing hallowed smoke in their wake casting shadows over the crowds of office workers waiting on the tri-rail? In a sense you suspect that the simple fact this is so alien insulated both Olivia and Daniel from the implications... well than and the fact that they do not realize how enormous the city is. Forked Arches where you are now is a mixed neighborhood with a lot of park space in part because of what it houses at its core: Silver Needle Academy, the premier sharpshooting and sense-enhancing training ground in the city. They like having clean lines of fire in case of attack, not that anyone has attacked in more than eight hundred hundred great turns, something like a six hundred and forty years Earth standard but the memories of Sanctuary are long indeed.

"If you want to fight things that are tougher and stronger than you it makes sense to keep some distance from them so lets start here shall we? Olivia this should be particularly good with your gift and on top of that when you veil no one would notice the electo-flux gun."

"Magic guns? Sure why not? Makes sense," she murmurs under her breath gathering her courage.

"I know way more about swords than guns," Daniel points out. "As in I have never fired a gun in my life."

"That is a good thing," Lydia counters. "Means you have nothing to unlearn. Also I think that silk-backed body armor suits you. We just have to get you one made custom so you can hide it under your street clothes. What about helmets though? Something with cameras so you do not loose peripheral vision?"

He laughs. "Trying to turn me into Iron Man now?"

Lydia turns to look at him seriously. "Trying to keep you alive. I don't doubt you can learn how to be dangerous, people, mortals" she grimaces at the word. "Have always been able to do that. It's staying safe that's harder. Don't ask yourself 'how to I kill a vampire of the Black Court', ask instead 'how am I going to keep doing that even when I am unlucky, even when I am outnumbered' and 'how do I run when I can't'. Better to be the longbowman than the knight."

Daniel nods at the advice, but he can't quite stop the smile that sneaks onto his face. "Careful your cultural bias is showing."

"Cultural bias?" Olivia asks confused

And that is how the four of you end up discussing Lydia's family history as you walk into Silver Needle Academy to inquire about instructors and specialized equipment. The armorer, a grey skinned man who had replaced the entire left side of his face with gold-plated cybernetics in stark contrast to his workmanlike demeanor takes working with unaugmented humans as something of a challenge.

"Electro-flux guns will burn just as might and these ones have the aiming mechanism internalized," he proclaims motioning at the sleek silvery shapes behind dark glass, like no earth-made weapon in more than just aesthetics. You can feel the power coiled inside them like a serpent of burning light, eager to strike.

By contrast the armour seems almost mundane, the alchemical composition of the silk the arcane tempering of the plates all making for something one can wear under concealing clothing easily enough. If this gets into some kind of laboratory though the results are likely to be much more through than any of the guns. Those would probably just explode given the energy containment levels. Then there is what you can only think of as 'gremlin in a can', a minuscule spark of arcane mistchief shed by one of the city's SUTRAs bound in brass and steel ready to be unsealed on unshielded electronics. Finally there is the surge kit, a patch of what looks like dark green ice with silver glyphs embedded in it like flies in amber which is simply placed on the wound and then attuned according to the needs of the operative to heal them. Though the medical terms fly over Daniel and Olivia's heads as much as they do yours apparently you can operate them on instinct alone. Judging by the armorer's sigh too many of the Academy's students take that as license.

Which if any of the decides to you gift Daniel and Olivia?

[] Yes
Daniel and Olivia gain
High quality electro flux gun: Damage 9 Levels; Range 400; Ammo: 5 (Can be recharged with Mana if the user possesses it) Conceal T (Trenchcoat) Special: Aggravated Damage as if it were flame; +2 Accuracy Bonus from the bound machine spirit
Electro-laser pistol: Damage 6 Levels; Range 50; Ammo: 15 (Can be recharged with Mana if the user possesses it) Conceal J (Jaket) Special: Aggravated Damage as if it were fire; +2 Accuracy Bonus from the bound machine spirit
Silver-Weave Armour: +4 Armour -1 DEX
Surge Kit: High end medical nano-tech from vat grown Waste lifeforms magically realigned to human biology The user rolls Stamina+Medicine with each success healing 1 point of lethal damage or two points of bashing damage, starting with the most severe wounds. A botch causes debilitating pain lasting three to five hours hours (-2 Additional Wound Penalty)
Haywyre Grenades: Destroy non-hardened electronics in 30 yards

[] Not yet, maybe once they have been properly trained

[] Only some of it
-[] Write in what


OOC: Welcome to Hell-tech. Incidentally the reason I specified that the weapons do Agg as fire is that they are not conceptual Agg the way Molly's sword is, they are 'only' as hard to ward against as mundane flame.
 
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Either way, Molly's involvement in this is going to be so deep that she'll probably know Lash's incarnation Name in excruciating detail whether or not she shares it.

Its a good thing for Lash that an incarnation constitutes such a major life event as to change your Name, because I am reasonably sure that Lasciel knows her current Name.
It's going to be some exalted baroque name thing, isn't it?
Also, Dresden just saw Ancient Sorcery for the first time ever.
For a wizard, an actual magic caster interested in his Craft, that must have been one of the more fascinating things he's seen.
Of course, with Molly around, Dresden is risking weirdness/uniqueness overload.
Dresden is as likely as not to develop a specialty in ancient past ages bullshit at this rate. Remember - he also got a direct brain blast of at least some knowledge of what primordials are from the garbled Broken Winged Crane quote he experiences when Molly first manifested her kingdom.
Look around for any books or texts in (alleged)Enochian. Time to visit Bock's next yea.
Have Lash write something, use it as a crown focus to find all books written in the same language located on Earth? She knows about the crown, so this shouldn't be an issue, and we can share the loot as payment.
Looks like we'll have to devote an action in January to getting our Resources back up to 4.
I was hoping to put that off until March and the ~$390 million lottery.
Ah well. Not like we need cash immediately.
With our exalted craft charm, we could actually make an actual diamond making machine that would produce diamonds on an industrial scale. Might be more legit. Or we diversify into some other high tech area, leveraging knowledge / assets of our kingdom.
Hmm.
To be fair, there's very little Age of Legends tech that Molly would need a heartstone to run; RL tech generally has peer equivalents or superiors. Magic stuff, maybe, but thats very high end.

An airbase/hangar for magitech transports would certainly help justify the need for a manse, though.
Fairly sure High First Age had teleportation gate network, and much more effective healthcare than modern world. Also, apparatus for enkindling people's dormant magic gift might be possible. Of course, a helicarrier is also always an option. And the stats of the Last Daiklave are quite impressive:
The last daiklave is an incredibly impressive and
grossly impossible sword that looks like whatever you
want it to look like. It weighs over forty pounds and
can't be wielded by anyone without superhuman
Strength (6+), and even then, it's no more wieldy than
swinging a sharpened bulldozer blade around: attacks
are made at difficulty 8, and it inflicts a mere Strength
+ 3 lethal damage, since it's nearly impossible to get
the weapon up to full speed or to deliver strikes with
any precision. Unless, of course, it falls into the hands
of one of the Exalted, who can attune it.
Attuning to the last daiklave requires the Exalt to reduce
the capacity of her Essence pool by one point. While
attuned, the last daiklave feels no heavier in her hand
than any other sword. Attacks made with it are rolled at
difficulty 4, it inflicts Strength + 5 aggravated damage,
and it is flatly immune to any effort or magic intended
to damage or break the weapon. Any attempt to block the
last daiklave is rolled at difficulty 7 thanks to the incredible
weight and impossible sharpness of the blade.
Im guessing that Lash probably has like Academics 5, and either Library 5+, Dream or Mnesis as fundamental parts of her character sheet.
Maybe we should be looking at Demon The Fallen for insight as to where the QM is going.
The process of Lash's embodiment is so mechanically close to creating a vat-grown Alchemical Exalt that I am sorely tempted to search our courts for any artisans with sodalite genetics. Because, like, damnit, the only thing different is that her soul is in a mirror and not a gem. We design and make a human-like body our of magical material, connect it to a heroic / special / empowered / transcendental soul, and animate the thing with a large influx of essence. You can't tell me you don't see parallels.
 
[X] Only some of it
-[X] Protective equipment, weapons they would first need to be certified for, similarly to buying a normal gun.
 
Molly never had strong reactions to killing.
Neither anything visceral in the first moments, nor worrying much about it later.
Neither for active combatants or the Skinwalker we had captive.
She avoids killing when there's practical alternatives, but sometimes it is the best option.
Strong reactions are not necessarily immediate, nor are they necessarily dramatic
Molly took Red Court vampire prisoners for a reason.

Which if any of the decices to you gift Daniel and Olivia?
Proper commentary later when I can sit down properly later.
But quick comments:


1)Do not give weapons to people who dont have the training to use them safely; it just makes them a danger to themselves and others. Daniel is explicit about not knowing how to use firearms, as is Olivia.
Not to mention that they are both underage for firearms in Chicago, so if they dont know how to hide them, we're copping charges.

And I wont go into the fact that Daniel hasnt discussed this shit with the parents yet.


2) I would oppose the armor as well.
It imposes a Dexterity penalty to use, and that kind of thing needs training before you can try to move in it.
There's a reason Molly's armor is light.


The only safe item on that list are the medpacks.
 
[X] Only some of it
-[X] Protective equipment, weapons they would first need to be certified for, similarly to buying a normal gun.
 
[X] Only some of it
-[X] Protective equipment, weapons they would first need to be certified for, similarly to buying a normal gun.
See this?
Silver-Weave Armour: +4 Armour -1 DEX
That affects a LOT of stuff.
For example, assuming Olivia is average human: Dexterity 2.
When she is wearing that, she is now effectively Dexterity 1.

And Dexterity counts for everything from who goes first in combat to movement speed to attack and defense rolls.
That should be a hard no for untrained people.
 
1)Do not give weapons to people who dont have the training to use them safely; it just makes them a danger to themselves and others. Daniel is explicit about not knowing how to use firearms, as is Olivia.
Not to mention that they are both underage for firearms in Chicago, so if they dont know how to hide them, we're copping charges.

And I wont go into the fact that Daniel hasnt discussed this shit with the parents yet.

A note here, those +2 dice are from the gun knowing how to use guns. If you even know enough to point it at the thing you want killed the dark spirit inside will give you the equivalent of Firearms 2, 'you are now mediocre at this'.
 
A note here, those +2 dice are from the gun knowing how to use guns. If you even know enough to point it at the thing you want killed the dark spirit inside will give you the equivalent of Firearms 2, 'you are now mediocre at this'.
The gun can't make a value-judgement whether it is a good or bad idea to draw a gun right now though, or if shooting or not is one.
 
VOTE
[X] Only some of it
-[X]Surge Kit


REASONS
Everything else there requires training and certification to use. Or should.
I sure as hell wouldnt give a gun to someone without training.
Or a plate carrier with 8-10kg of ceramic body armor inserts to some noob and expect them to manage it.

A note here, those +2 dice are from the gun knowing how to use guns. If you even know enough to point it at the thing you want killed the dark spirit inside will give you the equivalent of Firearms 2, 'you are now mediocre at this'.
I think you are misreading that. Aim bonus applies to aiming.
It doesnt apply when you are not taking aiming actions; if you're drawing a weapon to take a snapshot in a firefight where everyone is taking attack actions every turn, you still have Firearms 0.

If you're trying to buff the weapon, what you want is an Accuracy bonus.

And thats still a dice bonus, not a rating.
Firearms training includes things as basic as check your safety and weapons discipline when engaging in a firefight in a place with civilians. A gun cant make value judgements; thats on the human being.

And I daresay machine spirits from a world where accidental death is not really a thing have an idea of whats acceptable in firefights that would be unacceptable to vanilla humans.
 
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The gun can't make a value-judgement whether it is a good or bad idea to draw a gun right now though, or if shooting or not is one.

Fair, the demon is not going to make judgement calls for its bearer

VOTE
[X] Only some of it
-[X]Surge Kit


REASONS
Everything else there requires training and certification to use. Or should.
I sure as hell wouldnt give a gun to someone without training.
Or a plate carrier with 8-10kg of ceramic body armor inserts to some noob and expect them to manage it.


I think you are misreading that. Aim bonus applies to aiming.
It doesnt apply when you are not taking aiming actions; if you're drawing a weapon to take a snapshot in a firefight where everyone is taking attack actions every turn, you still have Firearms 0.

If you're trying to buff the weapon, what you want is an Accuracy bonus.

And thats still a dice bonus, not a rating.
Firearms training includes things as basic as check your safety and weapons discipline when engaging in a firefight in a place with civilians. A gun cant make value judgements.

This on the other hand is me not tagging the bonus properly. The demon can absolutely keep you from taking a snap shot wrong because it has the reactions of a computer. So it uses tactile, visual or auditory signs to get you to move the barrel
 
See this?

That affects a LOT of stuff.
For example, assuming Olivia is average human: Dexterity 2.
When she is wearing that, she is now effectively Dexterity 1.

And Dexterity counts for everything from who goes first in combat to movement speed to attack and defense rolls.
That should be a hard no for untrained people.
I agree that a hit to Dexterity is a significant drawback, but Olivia probably has a higher than average Dexterity attribute. She's been training as a dancer (ballerina, IIRC?) for most of her life, so there's a good chance she's probably a 3 or 4.

EDIT: Ninja'd by DP :ninja: (if only I hadn't stopped to take a drink of water before pressing post...)
 
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[X] Yes
-[X] Everything...with caveats
--[X] Go ahead and set aside a pair of pistols and rifle, a case of the grenades, and have a suit of armor custom made for each of them. For Lydia, too, while we're at it (and maybe some other people later). And we'll take a case of the Surge Kits as well.
--[X] We'll bring it all back to Earth with us, but they don't actually get their shinies until they've been properly trained to use them. There will be time for that after school, on the weekends, etc. We'll have FCF personnel on Earth soon enough who can help with that. They'll each get a Surge Kit immediately, of course, as will Lydia, Harry, Thomas, and Michael.
 
[X] Yes
-[X] Everything...with caveats
--[X] Go ahead and set aside a pair of pistols and rifle, a case of the grenades, and have a suit of armor custom made for each of them. For Lydia, too, while we're at it (and maybe some other people later). And we'll take a case of the Surge Kits as well.
--[X] We'll bring it all back to Earth with us, but they don't actually get their shinies until they've been properly trained to use them. There will be time for that after school, on the weekends, etc. We'll have FCF personnel on Earth soon enough who can help with that. They'll each get a Surge Kit immediately, of course, as will Lydia, Harry, Thomas, and Michael.
 
Silver-Weave Armour: +4 Armour -1 DEX
How reasonable / costly would it be to also requisition a ring / amulet of +1 Dex enchantment? Or just have the armor enchanted to counter -1 DEX with a +1 DEX enchantment? That's a 1 dot Path Sorcery enchantment. Molly might not benefit, as she's exalted, but both Daniel and Olivia are near-vanilla mortals.
 
How reasonable / costly would it be to also requisition a ring / amulet of +1 Dex enchantment? Or just have the armor enchanted to counter -1 DEX with a +1 DEX enchantment? That's a 1 dot Path Sorcery enchantment. Molly might not benefit, as she's exalted, but both Daniel and Olivia are near-vanilla mortals.

Stat boosting items are rare, but not to the point where you could not find one if you look. The greater problem is if you could find any that are not obvious. That is the kind of thing that makes for a middling show of wealth and power so most people to make such enchantments tend to make them as display pieces. It would be an INT+Politics or INT+Finance roll from Molly or her subordinates to find something appropriate
 
[X] Yes
-[X] Everything...with caveats
--[X] Go ahead and set aside a pair of pistols and rifle, a case of the grenades, and have a suit of armor custom made for each of them. For Lydia, too, while we're at it (and maybe some other people later). And we'll take a case of the Surge Kits as well.
--[X] We'll bring it all back to Earth with us, but they don't actually get their shinies until they've been properly trained to use them. There will be time for that after school, on the weekends, etc. We'll have FCF personnel on Earth soon enough who can help with that. They'll each get a Surge Kit immediately, of course, as will Lydia, Harry, Thomas, and Michael.
 
"I know way more about sowrds than guns," Daniel points out. "As in I have never fired a gun in my life."

"That is a good thing," Lydia counters. "Means you have nothing to unlearn. Also I think that silk-backed body armor suits you. We just have to get you one made custom so you can hide it under your street clothed. What about helmets though? Something with cameras so you do not loose peripheral vision?"

OOC: Welcome to Hell-tech. Incidentally the reason I specified that the weapons do Agg as fire is that they are not conceptual Agg the way Molly's sowrd is, they are 'only' as hard to ward against as mundane flame.

sword not sowrd

clothes not clothed since this is a noun not a verb

lose not loose

I'll see you all next vote. Have fun.
 
Also side note - Birds are all dinosaurs. They have always been dinosaurs. Birds are the last living branch of the dinosaur family tree.

Though whatever animals our hell has are not dinosaurs. Nor are any of the warm blooded fur bodied live birth having creatures mammals. The life of our Hell has no point of connection to any life on earth and therefore exists as an entirely distinct line of phylogeny with it's own phylogenetic tree completely unrelated to earth life.

There are zero shared ancestors regardless of how far back you look, not even fish (and fish are not a thing because phylogenetically everything would be classified as fish if fish was a classification).

Therefore I suggest that the dinosaur like animals of our Hell be classified as "Nega-Dinos".
 
Also side note - Birds are all dinosaurs. They have always been dinosaurs. Birds are the last living branch of the dinosaur family tree.
This is like saying "my children are my grandparents, because they are the last living branch of my grandparents family tree".
I suppose it sounds very clever to assert something counterintuitive like "Birds are dinosaurs" on the grounds of biologist cladistics, but normal English-speakers do not use biologist clades as the only means of categorizing things. "My grandparents" and "My children" are two obvious examples of non-cladistic groups.

Molly's Hell has dinosaurs, they don't need shared ancestors to be dinosaurs.
 
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