Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

Commentary and questions in half an hour.
I wonder if they had to hide on a ship for weeks, or take a trip through the NeverNever to get here.
Either would propably leave the mooks in a bad state. A plane seems unlikely in the post 9/11 world, though enough mind-control and money might be able to swing that.
Tapestry Discipline.
Tapestry 4
4 · Ride The Dragon ·

The vampire may tap into a local dragon line and ride its Chiflow, effectively teleporting herself from place to place.
Kuei-jin typically use this power to travel from one population center's dragon nest to another. In this manner, Kuei-jin courts can extend their influence over vast geographical areas.

System: The vampire must find an appropriate dragon line (Perception + Chi Virtue, difficulty of the local Wall). This search typically takes a number of minutes equal to the Wall rating. Once one is found, the vampire must then make a Dexterity + (appropriate Chi Virtue) roll (difficulty 8) to center herself over it. Success enables instantaneous teleportation, to a maximum distance governed by the number of successes on the centering roll. The successful vampire appears in the designated spot at the beginning of the next turn, and she gains four dice to initiative; she may take her full turn. A botch deposits the vampire at some random site within a 100-mile radius.

1 success 500 feet (or less, if desired)
2 successes 2,500 feet
3 successes 1 mile
4 successes 10 miles
5 successes 100 miles

Tapestry 7
7 · Dragon Chariot ·
Most practitioners of Tapestry must travel by themselves when riding the dragon. Masters of the Discipline can not only travel more easily, but they can take companions along for the journey.

System:
This power is similar to Ride the Dragon, but the difficulty of the centering roll is only 6. Furthermore, the character may allocate successes either to the distance traveled, or to carrying people besides himself along for the ride. For each success allocated to carrying others, the number of persons who can travel doubles (for one success, two people — the Kuei-jin and one other — for two successes, four people; and so on). The Kuei-jin invoking this power need not necessarily travel himself; more than one ancestor has "banished" troublesome Cathayans to other locales with the Dragon Chariot.
Assuming they ritualcast somehow or get help from their Hellish patron to reduce the difficulty and add dice bonuses?
This would allow the hostiles to move a party from Asia to Middle America without risking passing through Faerie and the NeverNever, and running into Winter or Summer.

Note that it doesnt cost Chi to use either.
Molly thinks that if she (or more likely Harry) gets her hands on those Dragonlines they could be made to backlash.
Hmm. Noted.
eh, common enough among all Wan Kuei. Like, you have to take one at character creations. Corrupt ones just use these like ALL the time. She would be very badly suited to handle even common ones. Firearms are bad at taking them down and fists are even worse.
Sure.
This is where you anoint them all in oil blessed by a priest, and arm half of them with supersoakers and holy water.
:V
[X] No, its too dangerous
We have just seen that they are preparing an ambush with both gunfire and Chi-based area attacks.
We can't protect a squishy mortal from that.
If she gets in the crossfire, she will almost certainly die, so we shouldn't take her there.
I think the point that was being made was to get her to operate a perimeter instead of actually storm the place.

She survived the loup garou attack on her police station, and helped storm a Black Court scourge in Blood Rites.
She has some idea just how terrifying it is to attempt to deal with a prepared vamp party with mortals, and has no interest in losing her entire department.

Mind, there happen to be multiple complications with bringing in an officer of the law to consider.
Everything from
  • The potential for supernatural escalation,
  • The chance that Eiko has an agent of information in the CPD in general and SI in particular
  • The fact that Daedalus is still doing the Red Room investigations in Chicago
  • The Library connection
  • The fact that we would be putting her and us in an awkward legal position if any human bodies are found in the aftermath.

But I dont think putting her or her people on the front lines is one of them.
Because they wont be there.
 
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This would allow the hostiles to move a party from Asia to Middle America without risking passing through Faerie and the NeverNever, and running into Winter or Summer.
That is an option, but I was guessing that they had a hard journey from the looks of the mooks as they arrived.
A quick and clean teleport wouldn't leave them looking sick, or have bloodstains on them.
 
Sure.
This is where you anoint them all in oil blessed by a priest, and arm half of them with supersoakers and holy water.
:V
Well, this is Molly, she can get them access to such. Though, I can't remember Murphy or her department using holy bullets. But you won't need oil/water specifically, anything invested with True Faith would do.

Also, if we go the way of customizing loadout: Demon Shintai 1 - Delirium and +dex, yang prana - go first, yin prana - invisibility. Now give those vamps a shotgun each and see how that goes. this is just one example with very low tier powers.
 
If travel is so easy for the hungry dead can we just use a question to find their greatest enemy and bring them back to Chicago?
 
If travel is so easy for the hungry dead can we just use a question to find their greatest enemy and bring them back to Chicago?
...that would be Yama Kings :p

as for the Akuma, short of the heavenly host (already represented), that would be other Akuma (one that Hates Emma O). It can also be some more enlightened court of 'righteous' dead. But that wouldn't be free. hmmm... Maybe lesser dragons? Dragons don't like akuma and like smiting things.
 
At least the cyber devils have taken bunch of video of the Akuma and their servants that we should be able to use as focuses.

@DragonParadox : How many servants do we have on video?
 
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Twelve distinct Wn Kuei other than Lady Eiko.
I wonder how much operational security or need to know they are working under? They are likely all fairly good focuses for crown questions, but there are going to be even better focuses the more they know. Then again if they are all Akuma that have sold a bit of their soul then they are perfect focuses on the Yama kings.

Then again we could use NWS on each of them first. That should give us a certain amount of background information.
 
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Twelve distinct Wn Kuei other than Lady Eiko.
So, assuming twice that... That's 24 Wan Kuei as a reasonable "worst case" scenario, including some elders / greater akuma, indlucing whatever they can call up, all on top of their ritual. On our side we have Lydia, Michael, brother Divisimar, possibly Bùshì Tùzǐ who would at least neutralize J, I think. Even if we pop shintai immediately and go slaughtering... I don't like those odds. At all. I think we need more backup. Call Dresden and Mouse? Would Mouse as a celestial descendant from around those parts have a type advantage against akuma? I mean, being a temple dog and all.

Possibly also call ghouls and Thomas, after equipping them with some guns and armor. Do we have time to craft any or to quick-purchase said armor? We defunuteky want to do something about the ritual they concocted.
 
So, assuming twice that... That's 24 Wan Kuei as a reasonable "worst case" scenario, including some elders / greater akuma, indlucing whatever they can call up, all on top of their ritual. On our side we have Lydia, Michael, brother Divisimar, possibly Bùshì Tùzǐ who would at least neutralize J, I think. Even if we pop shintai immediately and go slaughtering... I don't like those odds. At all. I think we need more backup. Call Dresden and Mouse? Would Mouse as a celestial descendant from around those parts have a type advantage against akuma? I mean, being a temple dog and all.

Possibly also call ghouls and Thomas, after equipping them with some guns and armor. Do we have time to craft any or to quick-purchase said armor? We defunuteky want to do something about the ritual they concocted.
Most are mooks and subject to our Primacy.
And we know some want to be free from Kakuri.

If we play things right, we can possibly push a good portion of the enemies out of the fight...
 
Attack on us aside, he's abetting people who he should have every reason to know are monstrous killers hurt innocent people
We are also doing that, like the vampire girl or the ghouls, some of whom have definitely killed people before. If we can redeems vampires and ghouls, we can definitely redeem a stupid human.
Most are mooks and subject to our Primacy.

And we know some want to be free from Kakuri.



If we play things right, we can possibly push a good portion of the enemies out of the fight...

No wan kuei is a mook, they aren't cainites, they start fairly strong, like might be relavent strong.
 
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I never said they had access to more than one exaltation. I said "we don't know what they know about the exaltations". And I stay by this. There is a thousand of hells. Some of them quite ancient. Some of them with prisoners who are also quite ancient. If anyone in the setting knows about exaltations, it's Yomi Wan collectively. I have far less trust in Mab knowing stuff about exaltations, than I have in Yomi Wan.

Kakuri's servants were able to figure out how to use it, even if badly. We need to know what they know.
The Hells have mortal prisoners, and prisoners of mortal origin. There's no ancient inmates of the sort you appear to believe are there. I have significantly more confidence in Mab, and Winter, ane thd Faerie Courts. Because defense of Reality is their portfolio, and has been for a long time, which necessitates knowledge of this sort of thing.

And also because Winter and the Faerie Courts have institutional memory and a shared mission, which the Hells and Yomi Wan do not.Ravana is not dropping his secrets for a potential successor who assassinates or otherwise succeeds him.
Winter remembers that sort of policy thing, and inherit information.

It isnt that implausible for Kakuri to get some use out of a mystically potent artifact while knowing nothing about it.
I dont need to know how to fire a rifle to use it as a club.
And by all reports, thats essentially what they were doing.
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Or, and consider this - they aren't stupid, and when they think that they can take a Knight of the Cross, us, and transfer our exaltation, they do, in fact, have a rational basis for their belief. You are starting from the basic premise "they don't know jacksh*t about exaltations" and working backwards from that premise. We don't know that. They might well know enough to have a significant chance of success. And we need to know which is which. Either you are right, or I am right. And we need to know which one is correct.

Right now from our perspective enemies that we know are very intelligent are behaving in a profoundly stupid way. This means that either they are behaving in a stupid way, or we are missing something significant. That something significant can either be outside circumstances (like Emma-O doing this whole operation as a favor to Nicodemius), or factors we don't know (like Emma-O having found a soul from the first / second age in his hell that knows enough about exaltations for him to be both desperate to get rid of us now, and to be confident of success).
Stupid? No.
Arrogant, and wont to hubristic overestimation of themselves? Yes; thats basically a Yama King signature in their own lore, and in the very backstory of this quest; see how Ravana and Lanka wrecked themselves. Literally this quest three days ago:
Instead you pluck the letter from the outstretched hand of the vampire, snap open the black wax seal with the mark of Kakuri and read the even almost obsessively neat script.
To the One by Fate Darkly Blessed
I shall not here make any pretense of friendship, not with honeyed tongue assail thine ears. Your soul is heavy with that which is rightfully of the Night Realm, yet within you it is not merely a tool in the hand. The black seed has become you and you have become it, a fire that burns with the chi of elder days. Thus as delegated by the Will of the Daimyo Of The Dark I offer parley in good faith, that by your insights into that which you have claimed and which has claimed you the debt upon your soul shall be lifted.

Mistake not a light touch for a weak one mortal for is you would spurn the will of darkness it shall devour you and neither Cross nor Sword shall spare thee thine fate. If fortune has given you wisdom alongside power may you find your way to the Ping Tom Boathouse at midnight five days hence.
Lady Eiko of the Blood-Stained Chrysanthemum


Great, not so veiled threats from the servant of a lord of hell
There are great Powers in this setting who would not dare tempt the White God and his agents that way.
Mab and her people, Ferrovax are canonically more respectful when they have those names in their mouth in this setting.


Exalted First and Second Age =/= World of Darkness First and Second Age.
And even in WoD, the Thousand Hells did not exist in the WoD First or Second Age, only coming into existence with the ending of the Second Age.

Furthermore, the fact that they are out here kidnapping humans with magic potential to stuff an Exaltation shard into says that at this point in time, Kakuri knows less about Exaltations than a random citizen on the street of the Exalted First Age in Creation.

That might change in the future. And we worry about that then. Not now.


Eyes of Power, Eyes of Glass
COMMENTARY
=Interesting comment by Sarah about how the Sword feels.

Yes, Sword > Exaltation, but you'd normally think that Mercy In Servitude is supposed to cover that sort of passive vulnerability.
Especially when they werent doing anything.
Or is that a sign we shoud be side-eyeing Sarah?

I know Whamps and Rampires dont in canon, when the Sword is not actively targeting them. Mavra was able to touch Amoracchius in Grave Peril. Lash-ridden Harry guards Fidelacchius with no discomfort either, and I think half-Red Susan wields Amoracchius at Chitchen Itza.

Is Amoracchius racist against ghouls in general( :V ), or is there something about Sarah?


=We have a face to go with the name Lady Eiko.
And apparently we have faces and presumably numbers for the rest of her entourage, at least those who stay in or have visited the Jaslin Hotel. Excellent.


=Apparently Eiko and the other akuma are still lodging at the Jaslin Hotel.
I would have expected them to move after Aoto reported back about our awareness of their lodgings.
Maybe they are confident in their fortifications, or our unwillingness to start a fight here.

Or maybe he didnt report that bit.

On the bright side, she's the only one we see mindfucking the staff, which implies she's the only member of her party with Obligation, else she would have had her minions do it.
Thank God for little mercies.


=The rest of her party look mildly ill. Why?

It cant be from the trip; they have been here for over two weeks at this point, which would be enough time to recover.
Is she making them expend excess chi in addition to whoever she is killing? Or is she sending them into environments that are making them sick? Seems significant.


=We have evidence for Eiko wielding
  • Tapestry: Chi twisting
  • Obligation: Freezing enemies, UMI recruitment of mooks.
  • Black Wind:Speed
  • Demon Shintai: Po invocation. Assuming Demon Shintai 5, thats a warform with +5 Demon Aspects, +2 Str, +2 Dex, +1 Sta. More if she's 5+.
  • Bone Shintai: Poison cloud, magic veil-style stealth
  • Iron Mountain: Dead flesh, toughness
  • Guns: Minions and mortal mooks

Killable with current powers, but not trivial, especially with a party to worry about.
And a requirement to minimize collateral damage.
We dont want any mortals here if we can avoid it. And we know they'll bring some.


=That strongly suggests we not have this fight anywhere near where we can expect vanilla mortals, whether civies or cops.
Certainly not in a hundred suite 3-star hotel in the heart of Chinatown. Average occupancy rate for hotels globally is apparently 65-80%, not counting the staff; thats a lot of people to put at risk just in the hotel itself, let alone nearby buildings.

Probably need to do some alchemical prepwork in the lab.
In particular we should make and be carrying antipoison for our allies; maybe HP potions as well. Dresden has that ointment he uses for seeing through glamor; we want it for seeing through Bone Shintai stealth.

And if possible something for paralysing/shutting down mortals who have been suborned.


=The J question didnt actually answer or solve anything AFAICT.
In the presence of a greater Akuma with the Obligation Discipline at Level 3+, its hard to claim that a mortal would have been able to make any sort of untainted decision. Same reason not to bring unprotected CPD officers to that sort of fight.

We still treat him like any other civilian here.


= Might be a good idea to keep Murphy in the loop.
Or not. There's arguments either way.
The same lesson of the skinwalker applies, but has to be weighed against other factors.

Mistake made on the Nightmare roll.
We should have been rolling at DC6 because the text says we slept in bleach, so Boiling Sea Mastery should have applied.
Still passed.

No further comment on the Book of Yomi Wan. Its been expended.

Cyberdevils came in clutch once again; 3 sux on a 5 dice DC6 roll.
And Molly rolls 13 successes on a 18 dice Occult roll at DC5.
Which explains the wealth of detail we got on Eiko; essentially everything short of reading her size in underwear.
 
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COMMENTARY
=Interesting comment by Sarah about how the Sword feels.

Yes, Sword > Exaltation, but you'd normally think that Mercy In Servitude is supposed to cover that sort of passive vulnerability.
Especially when they werent doing anything.
Or is that a sign we shoud be side-eyeing Sarah?

I know Whamps and Rampires dont in canon, when the Sword is not actively targeting them. Mavra was able to touch Amoracchius in Grave Peril. Lash-ridden Harry guards Fidelacchius with no discomfort either, and I think half-Red Susan wields Amoracchius at Chitchen Itza.

Is Amoracchius racist against ghouls in general( :V ), or is there something about Susan?

Mercy in servitude cover things that would make the servant less able to serve, things that are painful or debilitating. It does not deal with the merely uncomfortable. Someone like Mavra is also way past noticing mere discomfort when her plans are on the line.
 
Most are mooks and subject to our Primacy.
And we know some want to be free from Kakuri.
Isn't "join battle" the go-to solution to social combat in Exalted? DPE is for social charms, and we don't have Crowned with Fury as a combat charm.

Also, interestingly... Would the invocation of "turn the local chi into that of Kakuri" ritual taint the local area enough to activate Transcendent Lord of Flies? We'd be definitely fighting to protect others, not just ourselves. That's -3 to combat rolls right there. Even assuming that the ritual itself works as a +2 difficulty adjusters, we'd likely still be better off with it.
=The J question didnt actually answer or solve anything AFAICT.
In the presence of a greater Akuma with the Obligation Discipline at Level 3+, its hard to claim that a mortal would have been able to make any sort of untainted decision. Same reason not to bring unprotected CPD officers to that sort of fight.
I would assume that if his motivation was implanted by akuma, our exaltation would have picked up on that.
 
[X] Yes, you would need her authority to clear up bystanders
-[x]Use Naked wicked souls on Lady Eiko and all her servants you have video of. Hopefully that will give you a bit more background knowledge to work with. Also gives a better idea of exactly how much mercy is actually practical.
-[x] Also use all things betray for the session.
-[x]Do it in the comfort of a poison bath, you going to want to recover the essence and you suspect that you are going to want another shower after this.

We are a high empathy Infernal. We should know and love the enemy like they know and love themselves so we can better destroy them.

Also the Yomi often use blackmail. Might as well also have the dirt on everyone ahead of time.
 
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-[x]Use Naked wicked souls on Lady Eiko and all her servants you have video of. Hopefully that will give you a bit more background knowledge to work with. Also gives a better idea of exactly how much mercy is actually practical.
We had an earlier ruling that NWS are line of sight only and can't be used on recordings. If it could be used like this, we'd be having a very interesting time watching various political shows.
 
Eh, I don't see it as particularly redeeming. Everyone has a reason, but that doesn't make it a justification.
Attack on us aside, he's abetting people who he should have every reason to know are monstrous killers hurt innocent people.
See Obligation 3, and what it can do.
My main gripe is the timing. Having a dramatic confrontation where we subvert their ritual at the last minute is dumb, it just helps them continue to stack the deck.

We should be attacking them when they're not prepared for us, and killing anyone we can get our hands on without kicking off the main event. I don't even want to set foot in their kill box if we can at all help it.
Unfortunately, if their base is as demonstrated, inside a major hotel, we dont want to do this.
Two and a half weeks with an akuma who has Obligation 3 and you can assume all the civilians there, guests and staff have been compromised.

If we cant think of a way to draw them all out of the hospital, going to the meeting might actually be the best option on the table.
That is an option, but I was guessing that they had a hard journey from the looks of the mooks as they arrived.
A quick and clean teleport wouldn't leave them looking sick, or have bloodstains on them.
I have to ask the QM to be sure.
I was thinking that the footage was not of their arrival, but was collective over multiple times.
I dont see a reason to arrive with bloodstains.

Well, this is Molly, she can get them access to such. Though, I can't remember Murphy or her department using holy bullets. But you won't need oil/water specifically, anything invested with True Faith would do.

Also, if we go the way of customizing loadout: Demon Shintai 1 - Delirium and +dex, yang prana - go first, yin prana - invisibility. Now give those vamps a shotgun each and see how that goes. this is just one example with very low tier powers.
Eh.
These are akuma, hence they have a weakness to sunlight and True Faoth.
The cops would show up in daylight and use a fog machine to pump holy water through the ventilation vents.

If this was a proper cinematic setpiece, I'd be voting to do a reenactment of the Constantine hospital shootout scene.
As in, get into the hotel water system with holy water or an item of True Faith, then set off the sprinkler system and walk through it like a boss with our anima active and ATB running.

This scene:

View: https://youtu.be/YL2m8MvKcNc

Unfortunately, civilians in the middle of a major city.
Twelve distinct Wn Kuei other than Lady Eiko.
So 13 akuma. That number was chosen with malice aforethought. :V
I have some more questions in a bit.

So, assuming twice that... That's 24 Wan Kuei as a reasonable "worst case" scenario, including some elders / greater akuma, indlucing whatever they can call up, all on top of their ritual. On our side we have Lydia, Michael, brother Divisimar, possibly Bùshì Tùzǐ who would at least neutralize J, I think. Even if we pop shintai immediately and go slaughtering... I don't like those odds. At all. I think we need more backup. Call Dresden and Mouse? Would Mouse as a celestial descendant from around those parts have a type advantage against akuma? I mean, being a temple dog and all.

Possibly also call ghouls and Thomas, after equipping them with some guns and armor. Do we have time to craft any or to quick-purchase said armor? We defunuteky want to do something about the ritual they concocted.
Not sure where you're getting 24.
But 12x lesser akuma is enough. Especially since they can very easily buff that with another 12x mortals that get hit with Obligation 3 and some cash to buy AR15s and ammunition; in a metro area the size of Chicago, getting 12 ex-military vets or hunters with rifle experience is trivial.

Im currently assuming the staff at the hotel are compromised.

That said, Michael has a type advantage against akuma.
Its the mortal minions that are going to be an issue. Because while Amoracchius has no trouble shanking mortals who made a choice to work for evil, I think dealing with dupes and thralls is a grayer area.

would assume that if his motivation was implanted by akuma, our exaltation would have picked up on that.
Not implanted; the desire itself is almost certainly real. Pursuing it above all else is whats not real.

For example, Eiko has demonstrated Obligation 3: Authority on camera.
This is what Obligation 3 gives her:
1 · Evaluate ·
The successful magistrate must first learn to look into the souls of his charges. The power of Evaluate allows a Kuei-jin to gauge the state of a target's Hun. By using this power, the vampire can discover a great deal of information, which can be used to gain an advantage over the target.

System: The Kuei-jin spends a turn in concentration, then rolls Perception + Empathy (difficulty of the subject's Willpower). A botch on the Perception + Empathy roll indicates that the Cathayan misreads the soul or becomes too emphatically attached to the person (perhaps mistaking the target for a closely linked soul from another life).
  • 1 success Cathayan gains a basic understanding of the target — general personality, surface likes/dislikes, etc. Some information may be cryptic or false
  • 2 successes Cathayan gains a deeper understanding of target — true name, some history, Demeanor
  • 3 successes Cathayan gains insight into the deeper areas of the subject's soul — repressed memories, hidden dislikes/hatreds, etc.
  • 4+ successes Cathayan gains complete understanding of target, including Nature, Willpower score, Humanity/Path/Dharma type and rating, and whatever other info the Storyteller deems appropriate.


2 · Soul Bridge ·
Gradually extending her mastery of the Hun, the vampire is able to establish a psychic link between her soul and another. Through this channel, the vampire can use her own Hun to influence the workings of a lesser soul.

System: The vampire must face her subject, then roll Manipulation + Empathy (difficulty 6 for mortals, 7 for shen). This power doesn't work on Kuei-jin with higher Hun scores. If the vampire succeeds, she may perform one of the following:

- Add one die per success to her next Social roll against the target (a vampire who scored three successes can add three dice to her next Social roll).
- View one of the target's surface thoughts (chosen by the Storyteller) per success. Thoughts viewed typically appear in pictorial form, like paintings.
- Make a Hun roll (difficulty 6) to silently transmit simply empathic urges to the target. Thus, a vampire could fill a victim with fear, joy, sorrow, or similar emotions. A Kuei-jin victim may resist with Hun. If the wielder succeeds/winds, the emotion is strong enough that the victim is forced to act on it.


3 · Authority ·
The Cathayans once held a mandate over mortals. Although Heaven seems to have annulled this mandate, the Kuei-jin haven't forgotten it. With this power, the Kuei-jin displays the strength of his Hun by using it to awe and overwhelm other souls. Souls thus subordinated are quick to obey the Cathayan's commands, as if he were an emperor of old.

System: The vampire spends a temporary Willpower Point, then rolls Hun + Etiquette against a variable difficulty. If using this power against a mortal, ghoul, or similar creature, the difficulty is only 5. if using Authority against a shen (Kindred, hengeyokai, etc.), the difficulty is 8. Kuei-jin can't use the power against other Kuei-jin who have higher Hun or Dharma scores. The same roll is used to determine the power's effect against all creatures in the vicinity. If the roll succeeds, the Kuei-jin is imbued with Authority, which affects all present at the time of the power's manifestation. While under the mantle of Authority, the vampire's Charisma and Manipulation scores increase by three points with regard to affected creatures. These creatures also find themselves unable to lie to the vampire. In the eyes of affected individuals, the vampire is a person of rank and importance; victims obey him with little thought as to why. Most mortals don't even realize that the vampire's authority is supernatural, although wise ancients might suspect, and shen certainly know. The vampire may give commands and expect to have them obeyed. To give a command, the vampire faces the person(s) to be commanded (who must be affected by the Authority already established), then vocally gives them an order. The victim must be able to understand the vampire. The vampire rolls Hun against a difficulty based on the chart below. The mantle of Authority lasts for a scene.
Difficulty /Successes Needed/ Type of Order
  • 5 /one/ Cease action, don't act, do nothing
  • 6 /one/ Simple order, or one the victim knows is the "correct" thing to do
  • 8 /one/ Complex order, order to do something "out of character"
  • 8 /two/ Potentially life-threatening, violation of the victim's honor/principles
  • 9 /two/ Self-destructive
Essentially, read his nature and Intimacies like a book. Then target them with supernaturally boosted dicepool.
Remember how 7 words by a Fallen drove Dresden to desperate measures, and was deemed enough of a breach of Free Will to allow Uriel to take countermeasures? Same here.
 
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Not sure where you're getting 24.
I assume that half of the forces available didn't get caught on camera, or never visited the hotel. That's my "reasonable worst case" scenario. That, and summoning being on the table.
That said, Michael has a type advantage against akuma
They know about Michael and feel confident in winning against him and Molly put together. Assuming, for a moment, that they didn't survive by being stupid, there's almost certainly some reason behind it.

So, I wouldn't be so confident if I was you.
 
I assume that half of the forces available didn't get caught on camera, or never visited the hotel. That's my "reasonable worst case" scenario. That, and summoning being on the table.
I would assume that the other half would have visited the hotel at one time or the other to report to their boss.
But fair enough.
Especially with regards to summoning.
They know about Michael and feel confident in winning against him and Molly put together. Assuming, for a moment, that they didn't survive by being stupid, there's almost certainly some reason behind it.
So, I wouldn't be so confident if I was you.
Like I said, hubris.
Its a recurring motif in Yama King and Thousand Hells lore.
That and immortality allowing for retries in the event of failure.

I keep coming back to the plan of using a mortal shaman as Exaltation bait. They have no idea.

@DragonParadox
QUESTION
1) Does Transcendent Lord of Flies activate under enemy AoE debuffs targeted at the entire party? Like messing with Dragon Lines?
2) Does this
By contrast the rest of her company look puffy eyed and splotchy pale, like they are just getting over a bad flu, or a bad trip. More than once you see the lady leaning over the receptionist's desk her presence like a buffeting wind through the ether that bends the mortal soul and twists the mind. This if no mere imposition of desire as the White Court might use, you recognize at once, nor it is the violation of the living will by the powers of death as the Black Court might evoke.
"There are no guns, you have seen nothing amiss. The stains were not blood, there is nothing to worry about. You have seen nothing." Such is the power of the Mandate of Heaven twisted and defiled, but still held in the hand of the damned. There's a part of you that can almost respect the sheer dogged determination to hold onto it with iron nails and corpse-flesh, but then you are reminded that in her own way the woman is herself a slave as much as her underlings if not more so.
Refer to their arrival only, or has it been a constant of the entirety of their stay?

3)Can we inform Murphy unofficially without bringing her in officially?
4)To the best of our knowledge, is Daedalus still active in Chicago?

5)Do we think Gard is willing to sell/lend out one of those anti-mortal wards she had at the museum?
6)Eiko's letter says she's acting in good faith. We can prove she isnt. Does this take us off the hook diplomatically?
 
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@DragonParadox
QUESTION
1) Does Transcendent Lord of Flies activate under enemy AoE debuffs targeted at the entire party? Like messing with Dragon Lines?
2) Does this

Refer to their arrival only, or has it been a constant of the entirety of their stay?

3)Can we inform Murphy unofficially without bringing her in officially?
4)To the best of our knowledge, is Daedalus still active in Chicago?

5)Do we think Gard is willing to sell/lend out one of those anti-mortal wards she had at the museum?
6)Eiko's letter says she's acting in good faith. We can prove she isnt. Does this take us off the hook diplomatically?
  1. No, it has to be an environment not a curse. If someone taints the land for a thousand years or something that TLF would trigger, but something that was done in the span of weeks to last less than a month is not under the purview of the spell
  2. They definitely looked worse when they arrived, but they still do not look all that well now
  3. You can try to thread that needle, Molly does not know how well she would take it
  4. She probably would
  5. Yep, by even the most stringent of standards you have proven they are planning betrayal
 
  1. No, it has to be an environment not a curse. If someone taints the land for a thousand years or something that TLF would trigger, but something that was done in the span of weeks to last less than a month is not under the purview of the spell
  2. They definitely looked worse when they arrived, but they still do not look all that well now
  3. You can try to thread that needle, Molly does not know how well she would take it
  4. She probably would
  5. Yep, by even the most stringent of standards you have proven they are planning betrayal
@DragonParadox
Two more questions
QUESTION
1)Can we have our Cyberdevils check on known Daedalus agents to see if they're still in, or involved with, Chicago?
2)What can Porter do about, and with Dragon Lines? Do we know?

Thank you.
 
No, it has to be an environment not a curse. If someone taints the land for a thousand years or something that TLF would trigger, but something that was done in the span of weeks to last less than a month is not under the purview of the spell
Well unless it's an Infernal curse most of those include a clause saying it makes the area a place of desolation.
 
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