Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

I have not worked it out yet, but odds are you have at least 30 counting the refund
Also if you are willing, can you spoil if you have finalized the xp requirements for Essence raising?

I am asking as if we are hitting E3 next turn, We are almost guarantied to buy King and Kingdom and I want to make proposal that I am currently fluffing up.
 
The vampire lingers under a linden tree, away from any gravestone, like a shadow made solid in a suit of unrelieved black, high collared save for the single silver thread woven through it, barely seen in the moonlight, a bone mask shrouds their features, not carved Usum tells you, but grown. As you meet the eyes behind the mask something like recognition stirs in your heart. This is one who has known the touch of Kakur.

Suddenly the messenger as though you had poured a bucket of icy water down their collar and the rigid posture twists: legs splayed apart for balance, arms bent to guard their face and neck, finger hooked into lashing claws.
Jades are fun to play with, our ability to fluff in heavy references to the hells they went through is an incredibly petty way to screw with them and we should do it as often as possible. :V
So if I read the letter right Lady Eiko of the Blood-Stained Chrysanthemum wants to interrogate us well also saying that she isn't our friend and won't give us anything in return for our knowledge.
Technically she's "offering" to clear the lien Emma-O believes they have on Molly's soul. Though knowing these guys it's unlike they'd settle for less than servitude unless something makes them. I'm less than enthusiastic about walking into a place prepared for us, though the fact that they explicitly want information on how the exaltation works implies they probably aren't as ready for us as they could be.

With that and the 30 exp we've got waiting for us I at least am in the mood for starting a turf war. These guys can collect their data on exalted mechanics in the form of object lessons.

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So... They dare claim that we owe them a debt. They believe our exaltation to belong to them, without recognizing it for what it is. How dare they? How dare they to tread upon Winter's honor and the laws of war so? We should totally tell Mab. Or at least WInter.

So, anyway, I definitely think we should use the Crown. On the messenger now, and on the letter later. We want to know everything about the writer of the letter, and about what they know about us (our exaltation).

She implied she'll give you 'a lack of enmity from Emma-O'. The letter is a threat couched in more polite terms than usual.
Couched in more polite terms? She outright says "do as I tell you, or I will kill you, and not even your Knight of the Cross father will stop me".
 
So... They dare claim that we owe them a debt. They believe our exaltation to belong to them, without recognizing it for what it is. How dare they? How dare they to tread upon Winter's honor and the laws of war so? We should totally tell Mab. Or at least WInter.

So, anyway, I definitely think we should use the Crown. On the messenger now, and on the letter later. We want to know everything about the writer of the letter, and about what they know about us (our exaltation).


Couched in more polite terms? She outright says "do as I tell you, or I will kill you, and not even your Knight of the Cross father will stop me".

More polite as compared to say Mavra in Grave Peril.
 
So, can we be bothered to try to turn/redeem this individual akuma?

If so we can ask a targeted Crown question related to that.

I'd like to ask some detailed questions about Wan Kuei metaphysics, but I'd prefer to wait on that until we've dragged a prisoner to our workshop to really max the bonuses.

This actually brings to mind a question - would Theft as Release apply here? We did take the exaltation from... everyone, really.

If we steal a person from someone who thinks of them as an object, like a Yama King, I wonder if that charm would trigger? Would probably bounce off their mental defences if it did.
 
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Related to that - what about using Intimidation excellency and recruiting this guy here? Outright "your lady doesn't know what she meddles with. Kneel, and I will offer you salvation" the guy.

Best paired with a Crown use to really learn how the guy ticks. Then use Empathy to develop a line to take and Intimidation to whack him with it.

Going full 'Kneel Before ZOD!' in public and it working may have consequences though, but possibly ones that are worth it.

It's certainly a power play to openly steal Lady Eiko's minion before the meeting.

Of course, the problem is that Emma-O probably owns part of his soul.
 
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So... They dare claim that we owe them a debt. They believe our exaltation to belong to them, without recognizing it for what it is. How dare they? How dare they to tread upon Winter's honor and the laws of war so? We should totally tell Mab. Or at least WInter.
Probably not a good plan to acknowledge Winter's claim here. Better to go with "exaltation gets to choose. Mine now, don't @ me".
Couched in more polite terms? She outright says "do as I tell you, or I will kill you, and not even your Knight of the Cross father will stop me".
Which is a cute little threat. I'd love to hear more about what this dollar store Denarian thinks she's got going to dismiss the only guy on the planet to kill a proper Dragon in mortal memory.

Still, she mentioned Molly's parents in a hostile context so I guess we've got to figure out how to apply a spirit killer to a diabolic lich now.

This actually brings to mind a question - would Theft as Release apply here? We did take the exaltation from... everyone, really.
It allows a will save, so it probably wouldn't get everyone with a proper claim. You also have to use the charm when you take whatever you're stealing, so even if it would apply it's probably too late now.
 
I don't suppose Molly could pick up some spirit killer charm and burn this presumptuous 'Lady' in nuclear fire to make a point?

Although it is very interesting that they imitate the Death Lords and their Monstrances in aping the true Akuma of old.
 
Still, she mentioned Molly's parents in a hostile context so I guess we've got to figure out how to apply a spirit killer to a diabolic lich now.
I don't suppose Molly could pick up some spirit killer charm and burn this presumptuous 'Lady' in nuclear fire to make a point?
Murder is Meat is the Infernal Spirit killer and it will kill the Akuma just fine, provided we reduce her hlvls. Keep in mind that her immortality is not that different from that of a 2nd or 3rd circle demon and spirit killers killed them just fine.
 
Interesting. We could talk. But Emma-O is explicitly dishonorable - that's one of the key aspect of his realm.
His only soft spot are Ainu and Molly is nowhere close to that.

MC really needs to start amassing manpower.
 
@DragonParadox are we in the same scene as the one where we activated an excellency to get a police officer to explain drugs to a little ghost girl, or is this a separate scene? Do we have one or two more essence points to spend before our anima flares?
 
So we aren't even considering actually showing up for that meeting, right?

At best, we should propose a counter-offer for the messenger Vampire (Mampire?) to deliver. I wonder if MacAnally's would be an acceptable venue?
 
Interesting. We could talk. But Emma-O is explicitly dishonorable - that's one of the key aspect of his realm.
His only soft spot are Ainu and Molly is nowhere close to that.

MC really needs to start amassing manpower.
Even if Emma-O was honorable it'd be against our interests to even entertain the idea we owe anyone anything for the exaltation. I think it's clearly ours with no legitimate external claims, but even if there were trying to pay that debt off would be so ridiculous that we'd have to deny the truth to avoid serious issues.

I agree we need to build up more, but it's worth noting that we're way out of their normal areas right now. They probably came loaded for bear, but there's only so much they could reasonably set up here before the local players would start screwing with them to suppress the introduction of new competition.

We also have ways to get money now, which means we can hire supernatural mercenaries. Not Kincaid tier, but Binder level sorcerers have potential.
 
Hmm, more confrontational than I expected.
Probably because they truly do not have any real idea what they are messing with, although dismissing a Knight of the Cross this easily is surprising as well. Maybe they think that Molly would be even as "lost to evil" already? Still strange.

This said, I honestly do not think this situation is likely to end well. Molly probably could comply and bide her time, but I feel the conflict is extremely likely, just the time of its initiation can be somewhat influenced. This said, time is working for us, so it may be worth it to delay, even if it would rub me the wrong way.
 
So we aren't even considering actually showing up for that meeting, right?

At best, we should propose a counter-offer for the messenger Vampire (Mampire?) to deliver. I wonder if MacAnally's would be an acceptable venue?
I'd rather not give them any useful information unless it's something inherently harmful to them.

Like if we could hint at something about unbinding Akuma to sow discord in the ranks. Not sure if we can actually do that, but that's the level of disruption I'd prefer.

As to the meeting, yeah that's probably a trap. Mac's would be better; but part of me just wants to put cyber devils into some rebuilt junkers, stack black powder mixed with ball bearings into the back seats, and have them drive across the city kool aid man into whatever place they've reserved and go off in their faces.

Not sure if they'll be innocent mortals on site or not though, so we probably can't. Maybe if we find their local safe house?
 
So we aren't even considering actually showing up for that meeting, right?

At best, we should propose a counter-offer for the messenger Vampire (Mampire?) to deliver. I wonder if MacAnally's would be an acceptable venue?
I am considering it. Nothing is as intimidating as going directly into a trap than casually busting out .
 
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