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Going Full Hollow (Bleach)

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[X] She's a hollow with a disguise power. It fails when she's hurt.

Huh.

So just by literally watching another Hollow/an Arrancar doing it, plus a few words, it unlocked Sonido for Whitey/Shiro?

Holy shit. Instinct DOES work.

At this rate, we'll have to modify this image macro to suit our needs:
 
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[X] She's a hollow with a disguise power. It fails when she's hurt.

Edit-Sonido made this trip worth it, lets see what else we can pick up.
 
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I feel like sticking close to her is plan A, but if it fails we need to come up with a story.

[X] She's a hollow with a disguise power. It fails when she's hurt

This is the story we should use if they ask, but then not asking would be preferable
 
[X] Just stick close enough to Tatsuki that nobody can sense her at all.
 
[X] Just stick close enough to Tatsuki that nobody can sense her at all.
-[X] If pressed further, claim She's a hollow with a disguise power. It fails when she's hurt.

Can we do this?
 
[x] Just stick close enough to Tatsuki that nobody can sense her at all.

Let's just stick to our protective instincts when it comes to her.
 
meganeshounen said:
The white armor stuff might form around her wounds...

But won't those wounds still hurt like multiple bitches?
And on face too? ;_;
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Probably.




....Also, shit, this disguise power may not be such a good idea.

If it fails, it fails, we lose trust and they call us on it.

If it succeeds?

Tatsuki is now looked upon as a potential undercover asset. Potentially. If they believe us, they may believe she can fool shinigami. Probably another reason to bring us up to Aizen.

I do like this idea, but the consequences should be considered.
 
HymnOfRagnarok said:
....Okay. We just got Sonido. And one of Ichigo's more freakish characteristics is his speed.

This may have already been entirely worth the trip.
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No, simply chasing after Yoruichi would have netted us Sonido after we got sick of her flash stepping all over the place and tapping into our instincts.

veekie said:
We just need to bridal carry her everywhere.
Got enough aura for three or four anyway.
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Not aura. This isn't RWBY. It's reiatsu. Or reiryoku. I forget which is the applicable term here.

Dr. Bob Doom said:
On the other hand, if they realize we're still capable of power growth via consumption, Grimmjow might just adopt us and feed us failed Arrancar in order to get a good fight.
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Uh yeah, no. We don't want to join Aizen and if they find out, they'll kill us. They find out Tatsuki's human, they'll kill us quick and/or give her to Szayelaporro Granz if she's unlucky. She pisses off an Espada or someone approximately Shawlong's level and we're dead. We don't want Arisawa dead or Ichigo will kill us, etc...
 
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Khepri14 said:
No, Simply chasing after Yoruichi would have netted us Sonido after we got sick of her flash stepping all over the place and tapping into our instincts.
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Maybe, maybe not, and nothing you've said invalidates my point.

This route got us Sonido, that alone may make this trip worth it, plus we may get more unlocks. That Sonido could have been acquired another way does not change that.
 
[X] Claim that it's private, and refuse to elaborate.

I foresee this option having... humorous results.
 
HymnOfRagnarok said:
Maybe, maybe not, and nothing you've said invalidates my point.
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Walking into Aizen's base filled with the Espada and with any of the 3 captains possibly there (Kyoka Suigetsu can easily fake Gin or Kaname or Aizen in Soul Society while they're here-they just weren't there full-time until they left the Hill in canon) while we're still fucking weak and Tatsuki is still a huge liability and we could be killed for any number of reasons? That completely makes the trip not worth it. Gaining Sonido in exchange for heading into Aizen's base is not fucking worth it. I believe the OP said that we would've gained the skills no matter what, we just chose under what circumstances we gain them. So yes, your point is goddamn invalid.
 
Hyp3rB14d3 said:
When?
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Found the actual quote I was trying to remember.

TPK said:
I will not roll dice for this quest. Things will happen with events logically following intentions as determined by me. Can the unintended consequences of minor deviations sucker punch you? Of course they can, but no more than anything else.

Don't think of me as a DM rolling on the encounter table, or telling you what the DC is to make a Garganta. I already know whether or not any given action will succeed- you are the ones who don't.
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As evidenced, "events logically following intentions" is basically what happened when we learned to Sonido after Shawlong. We wanted and intended and followed our instinct leading to us learning Sonido. 'Cause that's logical for hollows. So if we went the Yoruichi route, we would have simply been chasing (futilely) after Yoruichi and we'd gotten sick of her flash stepping all over the place and tapped into our instincts and gotten Sonido. Again, logic for hollows.

I was wrong however, about the OP outright saying that we would've gained the skills no matter what as he's the only one who knows what'd happen if we followed the other routes. Unless he decides to reveal them to us (unlikely), we'll never know.
 
Khepri14 said:
Walking into Aizen's base filled with the Espada and with any of the 3 captains possibly there (Kyoka Suigetsu can easily fake Gin or Kaname or Aizen in Soul Society while they're here-they just weren't there full-time until they left the Hill in canon)
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Guy already said Aizen wasn't there, so unless you're going maximum paranoia, nope. That's the main threat done.

while we're still fucking weak and Tatsuki is still a huge liability and we could be killed for any number of reasons?
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What, like invading Soul Society?

That completely makes the trip not worth it. Gaining Sonido in exchange for heading into Aizen's base is not fucking worth it. I believe the OP said that we would've gained the skills no matter what, we just chose under what circumstances we gain them.
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No, he did not. He said he wasn't rolling dice; he did not say we'd get the skills.

You can say it would have been logical to develop the skills; that is not the same as him saying we'd get the skills.

So yes, your point is goddamn invalid.
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If it is, it's not from your arguments.
 
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HymnOfRagnarok said:
Guy already said Aizen wasn't there, so unless you're going maximum paranoia, nope. That's the main threat done.
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And that's only Aizen. You forget that he's got Gin and Kaname under his command and using his power to cover up their absences is no problem for him. And even if they're not there, the Espada still are, and there's absolutely no way we can beat them or escape from them whatsoever should they decide to kill us. Hell, Shawlong and De Roy could kill us and Tatsuki right now.

HymnOfRagnarok said:
What, like invading Soul Society?
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We're seriously gonna participate in that? I thought we were just trying to prove Yoruichi wrong. The cast in canon won/survived that so we aren't really needed nor would we make a big impact as we're little better than a low ranked seated officer, if not unseated soldier (definitely not lieutenant rank) I'd guess. We have little to no combat experience, can't open a Garganta reliably, don't even know cero or bala, I don't think we even have hierro, and we've got a really rudimentary form of Sonido right now that can be refined with practice. Hell, we don't even have a Shikai/Bankai/Resurreccíón. We need time to gain power and skill and control. We've got nothing right now.

HymnOfRagnarok said:
No, he did not. He said he wasn't rolling dice; he did not say we'd get the skills.

You can say it would have been logical to develop the skills; that is not the same as him saying we'd get the skills.
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Already corrected myself as you can see above.
 
[X] Claim that it's private, and refuse to elaborate.

This is actually a fool-proof defence. All powerful hollows are incredibly weird, so mostly no one bothers to question the weirdness.
 
[X] She's a hollow with a disguise power. It fails when she's hurt.
 
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