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Flandre's Quest (Touhou) World - (Madness Quest)

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[X] Reject the deal.
- [X] Non-violently with a hint of threat
-- [X] Time to channel some of your sister's charisma here
--- [X] "Your pitiful attempts to assert whatever delusions of authority or control you have over this situation is...quaint. Adorable even. Like a puppy yapping at someone because it thinks it's ten times larger and stronger than it actually is, when the truth is far from that simple fantasy."
---- [X] "I have been most generous with you all, excessively so if my sister or any other of her social standing were in my place. I even let you play soldier and general for awhile even, went along with the whole song and dance, just so you wouldn't feel too sorry about yourselves. But apparently, I have left a rather...misleading impression of things; and for that I'm sorry."
----- [X] "I am Flandre Scarlet, of the most noble and ancient house of Scarlet; of which we can trace our lineage back to that of Vlad Tepes, better known as Dracula. First and strongest of our kind, and of which my sister and I are direct descendants of." (Technically, you're pretty sure Remi was lying about that; but nobody could really call you out on it), "With but a wave of her hand, my sister could forever condemn your fate and destiny to ruination; and with a clench of mine I can devastate this entire world. This is again, not a threat or bragging, but a simple truth; just as you can crush an ant so casually, so too can I do so with with your world. I see how all things break, I see how I can break them, and I know how...fragile everything really is."
------ [X] "So, I propose that you...reconsider just what you are planning and proposing; accept the simple truth that lies before you, and come to the only real conclusion that can be had here: I will be released, with no bindings or watchers or anything of the like; and you will accommodate my every whim and need, lest I become most...displeased with my stay upon your world. I will take what I want, do what I wish to, enjoy myself as I see fit; and when I am finally bored I shall depart from here and leave you be. Otherwise, if I am impeded or interfered with in any fashion, I assure you; you willall pay for it. And your suffering will be legendary..."
 
[x]Tentatively accept the deal.
-[x]Ask to be put in Vita's group.

Look, it's a military group, orders would be "Kill this thing" or "don't kill that thing"

Those are perfectly good orders.
 
[x]Tentatively accept the deal.
-[x]Ask to be put in Vita's group.

Well, i mostly want to see how it will work out in the end. Also i do not really see Flan making speeches 'bout supremacy and other stuff like that. It just doesn't fit her character imao...
 
[x]Tentatively accept the deal.
-[x]Ask to be put in Vita's group.
 
FelSpite said:
Well, i mostly want to see how it will work out in the end. Also i do not really see Flan making speeches 'bout supremacy and other stuff like that. It just doesn't fit her character imao...
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It does when she's trying to imitate her sister in terms of threats and intimidation. Because the typical Flandre method of intimidation is 'beat it until it's almost dead'.
 
EnderofWorlds said:
It does when she's trying to imitate her sister in terms of threats and intimidation. Because the typical Flandre method of intimidation is 'beat it until it's almost dead'.
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Well, i surely can agree that she may want to imitate her sister in some ways, given circumstances. I doubt that she had like any practice with this one option though. It usually requires a certain mood/mindset (rather far from the current Flandre's imao) and more social practice won't hurt either.

Also, denizens of Nanoha-verse haven't been bad enough to her to cause going kill-burn-maim on them. Yeah, we got REALLY bored, and if they would deny our latest request it all could have gone down real fast, but it didn't.
 
[x]Tentatively accept the deal.
-[x]Ask to be put in Vita's group.
 
Why we want Flandre to accept these nitwits' little "deal". We should have kidnap Vita,stole some devices,and leave MGLN for good, but now this dumbasses are trying to get Flandre as their personal little living weapon of mass destruction.
 
[x]Tentatively accept the deal.
-[x] On the condition that we be put in Vita's group. Otherwise, non-violently refuse.
 
[x]Tentatively accept the deal.
-[x]Ask to be put in Vita's group.
 
EnderofWorlds said:
----- [X] "I am Flandre Scarlet, of the most noble and ancient house of Scarlet; of which we can trace our lineage back to that of Vlad Tepes, better known as Dracula. First and strongest of our kind, and of which my sister and I are direct descendants of." (Technically, you're pretty sure Remi was lying about that; but nobody could really call you out on it),
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It is a bald-faced lie, and Flandre knows it's one. Dracula would also be neither the first nor the strongest vampire ... although, as you say, nobody can really call her on it. (Yet.)

NSMS said:
[x]Tentatively accept the deal.
-[x] On the condition that we be put in Vita's group. Otherwise, non-violently refuse.
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That conditional would have made a lot more sense to put in earlier; bringing it up in response to an offered deal would be taken as a sign of bad faith.

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[ x] Reject the deal.
- [ x] Non-violently with a hint of threat
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[X] Accept the deal.
-[x]I've got centuries on them and will probably live for centuries more. I can afford to try this.
-[x]Request an option to leave after 10 years. Let's not make this open-ended.
-[x]If they reject amendments or clarifications completely out of hand, begin the massacre.
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[x]Tentatively accept the deal.
-[x]Ask to be put in Vita's group.
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[x]Tentatively accept the deal.
-[x] On the condition that we be put in Vita's group. Otherwise, non-violently refuse.
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[X] Reject the deal.
- [X] Non-violently with a hint of threat
-- [X] Time to channel some of your sister's charisma here
--- [X] "Your pitiful attempts to assert whatever delusions of authority or control you have over this situation is...quaint. Adorable even. Like a puppy yapping at someone because it thinks it's ten times larger and stronger than it actually is, when the truth is far from that simple fantasy."
---- [X] "I have been most generous with you all, excessively so if my sister or any other of her social standing were in my place. I even let you play soldier and general for awhile even, went along with the whole song and dance, just so you wouldn't feel too sorry about yourselves. But apparently, I have left a rather...misleading impression of things; and for that I'm sorry."
----- [X] "I am Flandre Scarlet, of the most noble and ancient house of Scarlet; of which we can trace our lineage back to that of Vlad Tepes, better known as Dracula. First and strongest of our kind, and of which my sister and I are direct descendants of." (Technically, you're pretty sure Remi was lying about that; but nobody could really call you out on it), "With but a wave of her hand, my sister could forever condemn your fate and destiny to ruination; and with a clench of mine I can devastate this entire world. This is again, not a threat or bragging, but a simple truth; just as you can crush an ant so casually, so too can I do so with with your world. I see how all things break, I see how I can break them, and I know how...fragile everything really is."
------ [X] "So, I propose that you...reconsider just what you are planning and proposing; accept the simple truth that lies before you, and come to the only real conclusion that can be had here: I will be released, with no bindings or watchers or anything of the like; and you will accommodate my every whim and need, lest I become most...displeased with my stay upon your world. I will take what I want, do what I wish to, enjoy myself as I see fit; and when I am finally bored I shall depart from here and leave you be. Otherwise, if I am impeded or interfered with in any fashion, I assure you; you will all pay for it. And your suffering will be legendary..."
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[x]Tentatively accept the deal.
-[x]Ask to be put in Vita's group.
Killzerker all the time is boring, and this seems interesting. If we don't like it afterwards, we can just walk away later.
 
Christyking1980 said:
Why we want Flandre to accept these nitwits' little "deal". We should have kidnap Vita,stole some devices,and leave MGLN for good, but now this dumbasses are trying to get Flandre as their personal little living weapon of mass destruction.
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... Do you think Vita wants to be friends with the person that kills her Church friends?
 
Entropy Judge said:
That conditional would have made a lot more sense to put in earlier; bringing it up in response to an offered deal would be taken as a sign of bad faith.
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I realise it's entirely possible that I've simply missed it, but I don't recall you actually giving us a chance to state what we want from them before now. From what I remember, since the 'third personality from nowhere with no prior hint at its existence or trigger condition' incident, we've explained ourselves, agreed to be mind read, waited for them to come to a conclusion, then asked to see them to hurry things up. I don't recall any vote where 'state what we want in this situation' actually came up as an option. Except possibly the last vote, but if that was intended to be an option there it wasn't clear to me, at least- there, it seemed like the 'make a point' option was referring to how we might convince them to hurry their decision only, not making requests or offering amends or anything. Not that it would have been easy to plan out requests in advance of actually meeting them, seeing their attitudes, getting a better idea of the situation, etc, anyway.

Second, how is it dealing in bad faith? They've made an initial proposal for the terms of our release, and we're just saying that we're willing to go along with it if they agree to meet us and what we want a little. If they say we should have mentioned it earlier then we can just point out that we didn't really have an opportunity to before now.

I apologise if I've missed anything or have misread the situation or anything like that; I currently only have Internet access via my phone, and it makes checking back through updates and reading thoroughly a bit tricky.
 
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NSMS said:
I realise it's entirely possible that I've simply missed it, but I don't recall you actually giving us a chance to state what we want from them before now.
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That would have been the "Any particular points to make" option. "Put me in this person's group or I'm walking out" is kind of something that should be brought up if you're going to make an aggressive push to get stalled negotiations moving, don't you think?

Second, how is it dealing in bad faith? They've made an initial proposal for the terms of our release, and we're just saying that we're willing to go along with it if they agree to meet us and what we want a little. If they say we should have mentioned it earlier then we can just point out that we didn't really have an opportunity to before now.
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In the last update, Flandre walked into a conference and said "Make a decision. Now." She didn't say anything about what she wanted - and if there was something that she specifically wanted, that would have been the time to bring it up. She'd had two days to come up with things she wanted; she didn't mention any. I mean, if there's something you want that will make or break a deal, it's normally going to be something you bring up at the start of negotiations - and since Flan barged in and told them to hurry it up, 'not having an opportunity' isn't exactly a reasonable defense. Additionally, by bringing it up, questions of what else Flan might want are going to come up - and whether she'll try to break any deals if those demands aren't met, either.
 
Entropy Judge said:
In the last update, Flandre walked into a conference and said "Make a decision. Now." She didn't say anything about what she wanted - and if there was something that she specifically wanted, that would have been the time to bring it up.
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To be fair, we didn't vote for "Make a decision NOW" or anything like it, and many GMs interrupt to give a reaction vote if the someone else asks an important question that the vote did not cover.
 
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