Hypothetical Final Fantasy VIII Visit
And I think that's the last of these Hypotheticals; other worlds will likely be visited by Flan with Alma & Co.

"Er … did anything happen? It … it doesn't seem like anything happened." A tense, questioning voice in the darkness - but more importantly, what happened to form? Why was form gone?

"I know nothing happened, Flan! I don't know why … I did everything right, so …." Another voice, completely unfamiliar and drenched in worry. And yet, such an important voice. It must be helped, that voice. Fear of formlessness was banished in the face of that voice's worry; it must be helped. But - how?

"Hehe." The first voice and a vaguely mocking sound. "You're worried about it, aren't you? That's sweet."

"I am not worried about him! I'm worried about myself! He was a lifeline, in case something happens to this body before I'm well and truly back to normal. But if something happened, if the connection's gone - then I don't have that safety net. That is what's worrying me and that's why I'm trying to figure out what went wrong!" The denial was, for some reason, endearing. A dishonest voice? But one that is pleasing to hear.

Perhaps … perhaps form was not lost? Perhaps it was simply … changed?

Somewhere, a massive metal claw twitched uncertainly.


"… So you're saying that there's a giant airship flying over Esthar and there's nothing we can do to stop it?" The President sighed and slumped over his desk.

"Yep. Unless you have another one of your crazy plans that always seem to work out. On the other hand … well, they don't seem to be attacking anything. Whoever's flying it is just … playing around, I guess." The advisor shrugged and leaned against the desk as a third man looked out the window at the red ship wheeling through the sky. "We've tried radioing them, but all we get is some gibberish that no one can understand." The shrill tone of a ringing telephone interrupted him, and he frowned as he picked it up. "President's Office … yes. Really? Hmm … one moment." He covered the receiver with his hand and looked at the President. "It seems that someone up there can speak our language, and they're requesting permission to land. What do you say?" The President groaned before shooting to his feet.

"Right, first contact with people from somewhere else. Might as well let them set down, but we're going to have to meet them." His advisor nodded.

"Get them cleared to land, and get a force to meet them. The President is on his way. Really? Thanks, that's good to know." The advisor grinned as the three of them left the office and made their way to the parking lot.

"Alright, what's got you smiling like that, Kiros? It can't be anything good." The advisor shrugged.

"Oh, it's nothing. Just that the person who contacted us was a woman and wanted to meet someone 'good-looking.' I'm just wondering how she'll take it when the person she ends up meeting is you." The President glared at his friend.

"Fine. Just for that …." He dashed ahead and spoke to the aide waiting at the car, then pumped his fist in the air victoriously. When his advisors caught up to him, grinned and swirled the keys around his finger. "I'm driving!"


The sea was filled with warships firing at each other in the evening sun. In the midst of the battle was a single unarmed ship, long and with wide white wings. It soared along the waves, entering the embrace of one navy and seeking to escape the fighting, but as the target of the other navy, conflict followed it. Then the red airship swooped down, the mere wake of its passage stunning many on the seas below - and then it pulled up, made a loop, and began firing its weapons at the attacking fleet. Ships were blasted and pulverized by its secondary weapons, and as it dropped to sea level to savage a battleship with its claws, a flurry of brilliant white missiles erupted from its waist. Then something else leaped out, a mere speck compared to the hundred-meter-long destroyer, but a speck that dashed to the next battleship and tore through it, mauling the crew and soldiers before unleashing a massive gout of flame through the side of the vessel.

The battle was over; their mightiest ships rendered worthless in a minute, the attacking fleet attempted to break away and flee - in some cases, even without orders from theit shocked captains. The defending fleet, and the ship that had been under attack, allowed their enemies their flight. Not so the avenging airship or its diminutive co-combatant. They leisurely picked through the fleeing ships, wrecking and sinking them with impunity, until only a single vessel remained. Upon that ship, the 'speck' landed, contemptuously ignoring the defending machines and cyborgs, and presented a missive to the captain. Then, and only then, was the ship allowed to flee, bearing the charge to its nation that their great red fortress must meet the vampire in combat.
 
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[X] See Ilya to sleep.
- [X] Then talk to Patchouli about her taking Ilya to see her parents.
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[X] See Ilya to sleep.
- [X] Then talk to Patchouli about her taking Ilya to see her parents.
Flandre have a friendly talk with Patchouli cannot go wrong in any way. :V
 
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Patchouli's Thoughts
[X] See Ilya to sleep.
- [X] Then talk to Patchouli about her taking Ilya to see her parents.


Ilya yawns and shakes herself, and you turn back to look at Satsuki. "You're learning from Sakuya, right?" She glances at the chief maid and nods nervously.

"Um, a little. There's … a lot I'm supposed to learn." You grin and nod, not relieving her tension at all.

"Well, you don't have much time to learn the beginnings of your craft, so work hard." She winces but nods in resignation. "Good thing you're sitting down, Ilya. You look like you want to fall over." She pouts at you, but the effect is ruined another yawn, and you titter quietly. Sella and Leysritt rise silently and you nod at Sakuya. She bows at you and casts her gaze on Satsuki. You slip out of your chair and drape yourself over the back of Ilya's wheelchair, clasping your arms together against her chest. Her hand covers yours as the chair wheels itself out of its place at the table and heads for the door. You lean your head forward, and Ilya rests her own head against yours.

"… Flan? I …." Ilya sounds worried and unhappy, and you hug her more closely until she regains her courage. "I … is there somewhere else I could sleep? I know I shouldn't, that the magic circle is helping me, but …." Her voice trails off and her breath catches in her throat. You hug her tightly again, glad that you already asked Sakuya about a suite for Ilya.

"Of course, Ilya. Is my room okay?" Ilya squeezes your hands as you glance back at Sella. The servant frowns for a moment, but when she notices you watching her she presses her lips together before trying a smile and nodding. Hopefully whatever protections Patchouli set up for Ilya against you - whatever you were doing - will hold through the night … and if they can't, that Sella can help her keep it under control.

"Thank you, Flan." Ilya's voice is quiet and vulnerable, and you hug her tightly as the four of you walk down the hallway to the library.


Ilya doesn't quite fall asleep on the long walk through the library, although her head dips and jerks on occasion as you hum quietly in her ear. Leysritt splits off at one point, apparently heading for the laboratory area for something - maybe her halberd? - although when she rejoins you she isn't carrying anything obvious, so maybe she was simply organizing something. When you reach your room you let go of Ilya and dart ahead, slipping into your room ahead of them. The lights snap on at your entrance, a dim red glow bathing the room, and you head for the bed. The coffin needs to be moved so Ilya can sleep, although nothing else in the room should be a problem - Ilya's not stupid, after all. You heft the great box off the bed as Ilya and her servants enter your room, although … there isn't really anywhere else to go with it. You shrug and set it against your wardrobe. Ilya blearily looks around the room, swaying noticeably, until Sella carefully picks her up and - after a quick glance at you - lays her gently on the bed. Once she's under the covers, Ilya actually relaxes, sinking into the thick velvet bedding and falling asleep almost instantly. You fly to her side and brush your hand against her cheek.

"Thank you, Lady Flandre." You nod and turn to Sella.

"Has she been sleeping poorly?" The servant hesitates before shaking her head, a frown on her face. Well, there's a difference between sleeping well and not sleeping poorly …. "Hm. Well, you're allowed to use the bed, too." You ignore the shocked look the vocal servant gives you and adjust the lights, turning most of them off. A few that are along the far wall, away from the bed, you partially cover with hastily-scrounged shades before brightening them slightly. You turn back to Sella before she regains her composure. "There's only the one bed here, you two should get at least some sleep, and I think Ilya would appreciate it. You don't have to do it, but … at least consider it, okay?" And you've gone and shocked the poor maid once more. You sigh and shake your head. "Anyway, I have some things to see to, so take care and sleep well." Without giving either servant a chance to respond to you, you dart out of your room, closing the door behind you. Now … now you have to deal with Patchouli. You're sure this will go well.

You find the magician still where she had examined Ilya, sitting at her large desk on the blackwood stage. "And what does the Lady of the Mansion wish of this humble witch?" She doesn't look up from her writing, and the sarcasm in her voice is painfully obvious. You force down your scowl and sit down on a stack of books.

"You're going to take Ilya to see her parents. How are you planning on dealing with Gilgamesh?" Her pen stops scratching on the paper in front of her and she slowly turns to face you, a frown on her face. It clears up as she murmurs, almost to herself.

"Oh. Yes, Remi probably left something where you could find it. And I suppose you aren't worried about me, but Illyasviel?" You nod.

"Of course. Ilya's my friend, and you aren't." She snorts and shakes her head. "But you haven't answered my question. You're collecting weapons to fight him the same way he fights, but there's no way you can actually match him - you don't have enough weapons in stock." She blinks and stares at you … then starts laughing. She tries waving your offense away, but of course that fails, and you glare at her until her laughter turns to wheezing.

"I … really didn't mean … to offend." She takes a shuddering breath and coughs into her arm. Finally, noticeably paler than when you arrived, she sits up straight and looks you in the eye, amusement still evident on her face. "I am sorry for laughing, but … that particular phrasing is one that I find amusing. Now, you - and Remilia, obviously - are correct. I cannot defeat Gilgamesh, either through my magic or by directly countering the Gate. Any sorcery powerful enough to be sure to defeat him will either take too much time to be practical, too obvious to target him effectively, or cause too much collateral damage. That said, I don't need to defeat him; I can't contest the Gate for more than a minute or two if he decides to try killing me, but I am hardly the only opponent he'll be facing. There are four other Servants willing and capable of interfering, and given the group I will likely be aligning with, at least one of them should have the opportunity to do so if Gilgamesh tries it." She shrugs and turns back to her book. "That said, I don't anticipate a full-blown fight to the death with him at all. He is arrogant and surprisingly short-sighted, but I don't plan on making him my enemy." You glower at her.

"And you'll be able to keep Ilya safe?" She nods absently, not even bothering to respond, and you clench your fists. "And her parents? They won't have any questions that will have painful answers? You won't be yourself when answering those questions?" Her pen halts again before it can begin writing, then gently falls back to the page. Patchouli sighs.

"Her physical safety is not in doubt. Her parents … what would you have me do? Not let her meet them? Cloak her appearance so they don't recognize her?" Actually angry, she whirls and glares at you. "Yes, the meeting will cause problems, and I don't think Illyasviel has even considered them! Because she's still a little girl, hurting and alone, with the chance to make one of her few dear wishes come true. What should I do, Flandre? Should I refuse to take her, and explain that her simple appearance before her parents will cause them strife and heartbreak? Should I explain to her just what her appearance and story would mean to her parents - and thereby push her away from her closure? Maybe you think I should find a pair that are 'almost' her parents, but the circumstances of their existence is different enough that she wouldn't throw them into despair? What do you think I should do, Flandre Scarlet? You can't even maintain a relationship with someone you do live with!" You're momentarily taken aback - not just by her attack on you, but by the sheer emotion behind her response. Normally she's quiet, and while she does get upset it's rarely so obvious - a pinching of the eyes, a hardening of the voice. But now she's glaring at you, voice raised, and you can't help but feel that she wants nothing more than to walk over to you and slap you, pointless as that would be. Still - that attack hurts, and your wings snap threateningly as you float upright, kicking over the stack of books you were sitting on.

"So you're just going to let her walk into a tragedy without any warning?" Her anger abruptly burns out and she slumps in her chair.

"Yes. And so will you, because there are no good solutions. Someone is going to be hurt, and even if I tell Illyasviel exactly how her father will react to meeting her, if she doesn't go there will always be a part of her that asks, 'What if Patchouli was wrong?'" You stare at her, fingers twitching into claws, for several more seconds. "Haa~ Is there anything else you want?"


What do you do?

[ ] Keep talking to Patchouli.
- About?

[ ] Make sure you're calm, then go back to your room and get some sleep.

[ ] Walk around the gardens for a bit, doing nothing.

[ ] Other?
 
[x] Keep talking to Patchouli.
-[x] About going with her and Illya before heading to Midchilda

Man Patchy, showing some personal interest in making sure another world-lost witch doesn't end up having regrets, huh? Speaking from experience?
 
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- [X] About going with her and Illya before heading to Midchilda
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Man Patchy, showing some personal interest in making sure another world-lost witch doesn't end up having regrets, huh? Speaking from experience?
She does have sympathy for Ilya, yes. Her experience is ... rather different, of course, but she is playing the long game, trying to make sure that if Ilya does become a true magician, she is both stable and not hostile toward Patchouli/Remilia, however (un)justified.
 
She does have sympathy for Ilya, yes. Her experience is ... rather different, of course, but she is playing the long game, trying to make sure that if Ilya does become a true magician, she is both stable and not hostile toward Patchouli/Remilia, however (un)justified.
.... Picking fights with Flandre over her might not be the best method to do that, then.
 
.... Picking fights with Flandre over her might not be the best method to do that, then.
Patchouli doesn't see it that way, though. Firstly, she sees Flandre as being the instigator - after all, it's the overly-emotional, reckless, aggressive vampire who is the driving force behind the 'fights,' not the generally-collected magician who has more information and has put thought and effort into her plans. Secondly, she doesn't see them as having a negative effect on her relationship with Ilya, because Ilya will only find out if Flan - essentially - complains to her that Patchouli isn't letting Flan control any and all threats to Ilya.
 
Secondly, she doesn't see them as having a negative effect on her relationship with Ilya, because Ilya will only find out if Flan - essentially - complains to her that Patchouli isn't letting Flan control any and all threats to Ilya.
One person is yelling here, it's not Flandre, so I'm not sure that emotional judgement holds water, though I'm sure Patchouli sees it that way. Also, it's not Ilya finding out the specifics of their arguments she should be worried about, it's Flandre poisoning the well in general.
 
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- [X] About going with her and Illya before heading to Midchilda
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'Reasonable' Demands
[X] Keep talking to Patchouli.
- [X] About going with her and Illya before heading to Midchilda


"… I want to come with you, then." She blinks. "Before I go to Mid-Childa, I want to come with you when you take Ilya to see her parents." Your wings stiffen as you keep glaring at the magician, quivering slightly. Patchouli sighs again.

"You know I'm the last person you should be asking about that, right? You should ask Illyasviel, first, because this is something personal for her, and your presence could make her uncomfortable. Yes, she is your friend, but your coming with her, even just to oversee her safety, is probably going to make her feel like you are trying to cage her." She looks like she wants to say more on the subject, but shrugs and simply pauses to take a breath.

"Yes, but -"

"Moreover," she begins, interrupting you and matching your glare with a fierce expression of her own, "you are probably going to have to convince your sister. How difficult that may be …." She shrugs again. "She lets you get away with a lot, and she doesn't often try to pressure you into doing something, but when she does she usually has a good reason. And, of course, if you do manage to get her to agree - as opposed to simply letting you do whatever you want - you hardly need my approval at all. Remi can manage the portals at least as well as I can in most cases, certainly in this one." She takes another breath, and you wait to make sure she's finished before you say anything. How fortunate. "Of course, in the event that you manage to get Remilia to put off her timetable for your little excursion but doesn't actively aid you, and Illyasviel doesn't have any problems with your coming, then I do have requirements that you must agree to before I agree to bring you along." She waits for you to say something. You cross your arms.

"Go on, Patchouli." She grunts - did she think you would agree or refuse to agree without hearing them first?

"First - you must obey my instructions. I know you have issues with your betters giving you commands, but if you won't swear to listen to me I won't even consider it. Second - you keep your mouth shut and you stay out of sight whenever you can. It will be a real Grail War that we'll be involving ourselves in, with mages who have connections and resources and a vested interest in putting down creatures like yourself. Third - related to the second requirement, you will avoid any sort of collateral damage and interference with the lives of ordinary humans. Fourth - I will not take your servant, only you." Your eyes narrow with each requirement until they're nothing but blazing crimson slits.

"You want me to be your attack dog if I come with Ilya." Patchouli shrugs grandiosely at your accusation, raising her arms to her shoulders' height and spreading them wide.

"It's what you're most useful for, it keeps you out of trouble, and - you may have forgotten this already - you're asking to come along on a trip that I don't think you should. Of course I'm going to try and dissuade you by making demands that aren't completely unreasonable but are strict enough that you're going to balk at the making of the promise! And if you do agree, then my job of babysitting you when I have something more important going on is going to be that much easier." You twitch, aborting a lunge, but Patchouli's protections spring up anyway. Your hands flatten, fingers splayed, and are held firmly open; the air between you turns wavy, a shield against anything you could throw at her; slender silver chains wrap around your wrists, ankles, and wings. Any of it you could break through … Patchouli knows that as well as you do. And yet she continues talking. "You are reckless, aggressive, and too short-sighted by far, Flandre Scarlet. I believe I know you well enough to predict what would happen if I gave you reign to act as you wished. Knowing that Illyasviel cares for her parents, you would seek to save them; and not only them, but the innocent Illyasviel of that era, necessitating a trip to the Einzbern estate. But I tell you this: they cannot be saved. Emiya Kiritsugu is a crusader, and his path will be stopped only by his death, or by ripping out his heart and crushing his dream. Without him, Irisviel von Einzbern will slowly despair …." Whatever she was saying is cut off as both of your attentions are drawn to Koakuma. The little devil appears oblivious to what is going on - is actively ignoring your spat with the magician, which is almost worse in your eyes - and sets a tea tray on the desk. Only one cup, of course.

"And -" you cut off your snarl, try to speak in something resembling a civil tone, and mostly fail. "And does Ilya know about your speculations, about what you think will happen if she meets her parents?" Patchouli takes the proffered cup of tea and sips from it, looking more tired than she usually does.

"… I don't think she's considered the downsides yet, no. She's smart; when she thinks about it, she'll make the right connections." She turns away from you and her protections dissolve - a clear dismissal. You glare at her … but it's not like she's unguarded, not here in her library.


What do you do?

[ ] Leave. Go somewhere to be alone.
- [ ] Break the teapot.

[ ] Take a walk outside.
- [ ] Make that a flight.

[ ] See if there's anything useful in that stupid office.

[ ] Other?
 
[X] See if there's anything useful in that stupid office.
- [X] Cool off and search careful. If there any useful you won't want to miss it.
-- [X] After searching the office and you can't find anything, leave and be alone for a while. Maybe even vent a bit and let loose some steam. Most important is that you need to thinks and maybe find a way to get the best resolution possible. If not, talk to Ilya about what could happen if she find her parents and see she ready for it and maybe help thinks out a way where she could save them without her parents suffer in any way. If not, find your sister when she back and discuss with her. You not giving up without a fight.
 
Funnily Kiritsugu can be saved if he is convinced that his participating in the war will doom Illya to fight as a Lesser Grail in the next. Kiritsugu loves his daughter very much and in a timeline where Irriasviel was skipped and Illya was to be a child grail in the coming war, he snapped, took Irriasviel's offer, killed off all other Einzberns with exception of Illya's maids and moved his family to Fuyuki, ending the Holly Grail Wars for ever in his dimension. The maids than practically raised Illya and Shirou (who STILL ended adopted by Kiritsugu) as normal kids. Of course Illya still ended in troubles with magic later on but that was another story.

So Illya actually can convince her father's counterpart to change his mind and do what is easy (and in this case even correct) and destroy the war instead himself and his family. But this is what only Illya can do - if she is able to persuade her parent's counterparts that what they knew about the war is false and the Grail certainly isn't solution of whatever troubles Kiritsugu has, and will made things just worse - no matter who will win.
 
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Well now I'm tempted to have Flan just go ape on the Zero Grail War. I mean, as it stands, she's the polar opposite of Kiritsugu; instead of wanting to save the many by sacrificing the few, she saves the people she cares about and literally everyone else can go jump in a garbage fire.

Who knows? Maybe punching the hell out of Kiritsugu's ideals by force might be enough to solve things.

Sure, Patchy won't like it, but that's not really Flan's problem.
 
And, of course, if you do manage to get her to agree - as opposed to simply letting you do whatever you want - you hardly need my approval at all. Remi can manage the portals at least as well as I can in most cases, certainly in this one."
"...I do have requirements that you must agree to before I agree to bring you along."...."First - you must obey my instructions. I know you have issues with your betters giving you commands, but if you won't swear to listen to me I won't even consider it."

Uh... Patchy... You just admitted Flandre doesn't need your permission if she convinces Remilia and Ilya. So... Kind of undermined your own bargaining position at the outset there. I'm not sure why you think you're now capable of making onerous (and insultingly phrased) demands.
 
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Uh... Patchy... You just admitted Flandre doesn't need your permission if she convinces Remilia and Ilya.
Patchouli doesn't believe Flandre can convince Remilia to actively help her, which is what would be needed for Flan to bypass Patchouli's rules. She doesn't think it's likely that Flan can even convince Remilia to let her go, but she considers it an actual possibility, and that's the situation where Flan would still need to follow her rules.
 
"First - you must obey my instructions. I know you have issues with your betters giving you commands, but if you won't swear to listen to me I won't even consider it. Second - you keep your mouth shut and you stay out of sight whenever you can. It will be a real Grail War that we'll be involving ourselves in, with mages who have connections and resources and a vested interest in putting down creatures like yourself. Third - related to the second requirement, you will avoid any sort of collateral damage and interference with the lives of ordinary humans. Fourth - I will not take your servant, only you." Your eyes narrow with each requirement until they're nothing but blazing crimson slits.
None of this prevents Flan from simply putting Patchy into a coma.
Which I personally think should be a part of the base deal to avoid problems.
Biggest problem going to be blood acquirement without breaking the third condition, as well as the whole thing ends when we return from the outing.
 
[X] Take a walk outside.
-[X] Make that a flight.

Lets go vent on some randoms first.
Though Flan really IS most useful eyecrushing Gilgamesh
 
[X] Take a walk outside.
-[X] Make that a flight.
Lets go vent on some randoms first.
Though Flan really IS most useful eyecrushing Gilgamesh

The trouble with that is what happened to Sakura the last time. If Flan kills Gilgamesh, Iris is going to start grailing really fast. What she'd have to do is beeline for the cavern under Ryudo Temple and blow up the Greater Grail again, before it has a chance to really spool up. If she does that, though, she's instantly on EVERYONE'S shit-list.
 
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