Flandre's Quest (Touhou) World - (Madness Quest)
- Thread starter Entropy Judge
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- A Place Miserably Bereft of Cats
Hey @Entropy Judge, when you say 'play with her,' what exactly do you mean? Will we primarily focus on avoidance and never actually being hit and stuff? Is it much like a cat playing with its food?
If so, the best way to throw Ciel off her game is, uh.
[x] Play with her.
-[x] Danmaku.
Because undereath her murderous exterior is a woman who loves tea time, costumes and curry, and is secretly just a bit lazy, and kind of an awful person to her subordinate supernatural creatures.
She's basically a Touhou. She's even wearing a hat right now!
If so, the best way to throw Ciel off her game is, uh.
[x] Play with her.
-[x] Danmaku.
Because undereath her murderous exterior is a woman who loves tea time, costumes and curry, and is secretly just a bit lazy, and kind of an awful person to her subordinate supernatural creatures.
She's basically a Touhou. She's even wearing a hat right now!
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- The Surface Of A Hostile Planet
This is the best idea. I want to see Ciel's reaction.
[x] Play with her.
-[x] Danmaku.
Entropy Judge
Recurring Bouts of Misanthropy
Needs X's if this is going to be a vote.
Hmm .... Well, Flan is a vampire with overwhelming offensive power and crystals. ORT is a Dead Apostle Ancestor with overwhelming offensive power and it's passively creating a bizarre crystalline world around it. Obviously Flan is a scouting organism deployed by ORT.
Or Arcueid, Nrvnqsr, Roa, or SHIKI.
Part cat-and-mouse, part just not fighting seriously. Demonstrating that she is Better Than You, basically. Danmaku involves more flight, physical involves more tossing Ciel around. She will probably not try to avoid every attack, because that's boring and not fun, and Loki's up to protect against the odd hit that does get in.
Flan won't do anything she considers too stupid, because it would be embarrassing to be badly injured because of playing around after she told Deis and Caster she wouldn't be in any danger, but she doesn't consider one human to be an actual danger, either.
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- Bowling Green
Why are people voting to play around with the person trying to kill Flandre? Last time she underestimated someone she got a Gae Bolg to the heart, and this time she is facing someone who likely has experience killing vampires and is probably carrying anti-vampire weaponry.
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- A Place Miserably Bereft of Cats
Yeah, and the last time we got specifically told that we would have gotten away unscathed if we had just fucked around with Lancer.
While Ciel is all about axemurdering Church targets, she's also not completely unreasonable, especially when it seems like her target isn't as crazy as they might first appear.
Also, we do not ever want to engage this woman in close combat. Her ultra sure kill technique requires her to land a hit with her ridiculous piledriver cannon in close range, so playing keep-away is our best bet, especially if we can avoid her Black Keys (which can also immobilize a target if they hit their shadow).
I wonder if a write-in to Play Seriously with Ciel is appropriate. It's like the Play option, but far less fair for the other party.
@Entropy Judge, what are your thoughts on a Play Seriously option? I think this is probably workable given that Flan knows she may be being watched. Gilgamesh DID ask for us to entertain him, after all.
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... I like it.
[X] Play with her.
-[X] Danmaku.
I am assuming that we wont use are more, high tier spell cards if we do this.
Entropy Judge
Recurring Bouts of Misanthropy
I ... don't know? :3 Can't really wrap my head around the concept right now. Could you explain it a bit more?
Danmaku, on its own, doesn't use Spell Cards (that's why there's a separate vote for them).
And Black Keys are pretty much tailor-made to deal with Dead Apostles.Ciel said:
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- Voidbetweenstars
I am pretty sure that Flandre has dealt with people who are far better Vampire hunters then Ciel, like maybe a maid with an pocket watch?
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- Earth
[x] Play with her.
-[x] Danmaku.
It should be interesting to see what various parties will do if the Danmaku is too visible to the normal people.
-[x] Danmaku.
It should be interesting to see what various parties will do if the Danmaku is too visible to the normal people.
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- Bowling Green
I don't know much about whatever series Flandre is from, but Ciel is probably capable of killing her if Flandre doesn't take her seriously considering her weapons, training, power and Immortality. Ciel is capable of successfully fighting Servants and Flandre doesn't know most of the stuff she can do.
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- A Place Miserably Bereft of Cats
A variation that's more like... Say, Reimu's approach to Danmaku. Still a 'game,' but playing for keeps. Playing to win. Or rather, playing not just to lead the other person on, but to not cut corners, and to play as hard and as honestly as possible.
Like the difference between a friendly game of catch and, say, a professional baseball game.
Entropy Judge
Recurring Bouts of Misanthropy
So it's sort of like beating her senseless, only making sure that there's no hard feelings involved?
I guess you could go for that.... I have no idea why I'm having trouble with this. I mean, I understand the intent, I'm just having trouble figuring out how it works. Umm ... let me summarize how the prebuilts work:
* Play around with her - as stated, this is partly Flan playing around and the one where she doesn't really take the fight seriously.
* Fight her - this one is fighting on, more or less, Ciel's level.
* Beat her senseless - this is pretty much a straightforward beatdown where Flan assumes that Ciel is potentially a legitimate threat and fights accordingly. It is primarily physically-oriented, because that's where Flan's strengths lie.
* Kill her - obvious. Again, physical bias.
Anyway, if you want to modify one or do a custom write-in, it's fine.
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- Postcard from the Root
I confess that I laughed for a moment because my first response was "so is Reimu."
Gonna think more on vote.
- Location
- Thailand
No, Ciel can only fight defensively against an "Average Servant WITH Average Noble Phanstasm", she is no where near as strong as you make her out to be.
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- Voidbetweenstars
And Ciel doesn't know most of what Flan can do, like honestly have you not read the fight scenes in this story? Doing Damaka is safe unless if Ciel has bullshit range attacks, and even then Flan can most certainly evade most attacks at range with ease. Also a Damaka fight.
This is a Damaka fight that is play and has spell cards, assuming that both people can play this is how a enjoyable game would go between to damaka users.
HymnOfRagnarok
Let's Rock
Y'know Ciel is probably going to freak out at the volume of fire Flan's danmaku puts out, right? Until proven otherwise, Ciel has to assume everything is potentially dangerous, lethal, or worse.
Danmaku may entertain Gilgamesh the most, probably, and Flan may see it as playing, but this will could make Ciel escalate crazy fast because she thinks it's her only chance to survive. Most Nasu mages don't come anywhere close to the volume of fire involved in danmaku.
[X] Play around with her.
-[X] Danmaku.
--[X] Though...just because you're playing with her doesn't mean she'll see it the same way. Be on your guard in case she escalates in response or does anything suspicious.
Hmm, well I found the source I was thinking of:
Not sure if what's in the deepest parts of the Evocationary area is the Black Barrel, but I don't think the Black Barrel would provide a meaningful advantage against Caster. I mean Rin can always solo Caster in close quarters if given a good enough opening. At best the Black Barrel reduces a Ciel vs Caster fight to, "Who shoots first?"
Danmaku may entertain Gilgamesh the most, probably, and Flan may see it as playing, but this will could make Ciel escalate crazy fast because she thinks it's her only chance to survive. Most Nasu mages don't come anywhere close to the volume of fire involved in danmaku.
[X] Play around with her.
-[X] Danmaku.
--[X] Though...just because you're playing with her doesn't mean she'll see it the same way. Be on your guard in case she escalates in response or does anything suspicious.
Hmm, well I found the source I was thinking of:
Not sure if what's in the deepest parts of the Evocationary area is the Black Barrel, but I don't think the Black Barrel would provide a meaningful advantage against Caster. I mean Rin can always solo Caster in close quarters if given a good enough opening. At best the Black Barrel reduces a Ciel vs Caster fight to, "Who shoots first?"
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- A Place Miserably Bereft of Cats
[X] Play around with her.
-[X] Danmaku.
--[X] Though...just because you're playing with her doesn't mean she'll see it the same way. Be on your guard in case she escalates in response or does anything suspicious.
Hmm, yeah that seems about right. Minor edit from Hymn's vote.
-[X] Danmaku.
--[X] Though...just because you're playing with her doesn't mean she'll see it the same way. Be on your guard in case she escalates in response or does anything suspicious.
Hmm, yeah that seems about right. Minor edit from Hymn's vote.
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- Voidbetweenstars
Ya a none peaceful Danmaku fight is the sort of thing that I think would be ah horrifying for everyone but Flan so point.
[X] Play around with her.
-[X] Danmaku.
--[X] Though...just because you're playing with her doesn't mean she'll see it the same way. Be on your guard in case she escalates in response or does anything suspicious.
That being said she's most likely going to book at first chance also without spell cards involved it would not stop any of the servants in the war.
Remember however this is conditional based. In Nasu verse, every battle is conditional based. Even a normal human could take down a servant when the conditions are right. Sample Shirou Vs Goldie in Unlimited Blade Work. The event of that route had allow Shirou take on Gilgamesh and allow him to win. Shirou at the point where he took Goldie on could also take on others Servant as well. It just fighting them head on without plans or preparations means he will generally lose in the end.
Many works of Type moon had show as well, depending on the conditional of a situation, what Nasu had state as official could change as well. What was standard rule could change. Exception is a common things in Nasu verse. And it could be create artificially. Ciel is not expectional to this as well. Like I say before, depending on what kind of preparation Ciel had done, she talking on Servant in a straight forwards fight and winning is not impossible.
Who to say Ciel had not fight similar level opponent/tactics before? Being hit by a massive volume will probably surprise her but she will no doubt recover and adapt to it. And being at range or in the air doesn't means Flan is safe as well, same with outnumber. CIel is likely to have counter measure prepare to handle such situational. Remember, Ciel had fought many Dead Apostle Ancestors class opponent before and I willing to bet some of them had fighting style similar to Flan.
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[X] Beat her senseless.
- [X] Take her back to the temple. Maybe Deis can use her body?
Let's get the whole "get a body for Deis" thing out of the way.
- [X] Take her back to the temple. Maybe Deis can use her body?
Let's get the whole "get a body for Deis" thing out of the way.
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- Thailand
[X] Beat her senseless.
- [X] Take her back to the temple. Maybe Deis can use her body?
- [X] Take her back to the temple. Maybe Deis can use her body?