OverReactionGuy
Verified Sanity
Kittens. Lots and lots of kittens.
Firebird, a Worm AU/Xover?
- Thread starter chibipoe
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Kittens. Lots and lots of kittens.
Arimai
Curmudgeon
What exactly did Larekko12 just say?
That makes no sense at all. What does a walking emergency MRE have to do with anything?
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It's in the context of calming Taylor down. Just generally pile her with cute kittens for about half an hour till she can't be angry anymore.
Because Kittens.
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- State of Confusion
I know this was a couple pages back, but I have to respond. First off, I agree with you. There are few things I find more...annoying, than supposed anti-discrimination groups that resort to hate speech themselves. And it's disappointingly frequent.
That said, there is a critical difference between Nazis and other anti-discrimination sorts lashing out irrationally. Nazis aren't subhuman monsters because I decided they are or should be. They're subhuman monsters because they choose to be.
I came face-to-face with one once, the full deal: skinned head, swastika tattoos and all. He was a temporary co-worker where I was working at the time. My other co-workers and I, being the way we were, decided to engage in a friendly interrogation over lunch one day. He was quite willing to discuss his beliefs. He believed that Jews, homosexuals, etc, etc, were of less worth than dogs. That not only was it OK to kill them, but that doing so was actively beneficial to the rest of the world. But pretty much everyone intellectually knows that that is what Nazis espouse, and it wasn't news to me at the time either. What gave me the chills, was the way he talked about his views. He was not angry or passionate, and I detected no signs of insanity. He was calm, rational, and so utterly convinced of the rightness of his beliefs that he was completely matter-of-fact about how he would be quite content committing murder and genocide.
So when I saw your comment, I couldn't help but think: You're absolutely right. But don't spend any empathy or mercy on Nazis. Save it for their victims.
But hey, it's cool to call for their murder, right? I get that in the grand scheme of things Nazis aren't worth much, but saying you champion all life and believe in justice and then going to to say one group of people are subhuman (great word, by the way) and calling for their eradication? That's exactly what Nazis say and believe. It's such a line-for-line that I initially thought it was satire. If you're saying they're subhuman and deserve to be killed without trial the moment they're found, and they say the exact same thing about Jews, what's the difference between you except who your target is?
earthboy
(verified ape)
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- NYC
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No, it's really not.
Calling for the execution of murderers is judging people based on their own actions.
Calling for the extinction of ${BIRTH_TRAIT} is completely different.
Voluntarily joining a criminal organization is not at all the same as being born black or gay.
I don't feel like you're arguing an honest position.
Note: this is purely about voluntary recruits. Bakuda's cranial bombs got the ABB a lot of involuntary recruits, and I don't judge them the same as the people who joined the ABB or E88 without coercion.
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4WheelSword
The original N-body Problem
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stop
No. I just got done telling someone else this wasn't cool.
Vitriolic advocation for violence is unacceptable no matter the target. Have 25 points.
Vitriolic advocation for violence is unacceptable no matter the target. Have 25 points.
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official staff communication
As for the rest of you. This line of discussion regarding Nazis and the punishment thereof ends, now. If you want to discuss it, might I suggest starting a thread in the history forum where you'll still have to post calmly and with thought.
Now, please go back to your regular posting.
Now, please go back to your regular posting.
thefluffyone
Big Ego for Something so Small, eh?
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- Earth
So....how bout dat cosmic entity of extreme burny-ness?
It's a...it's a thing.
It's a...it's a thing.
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- Crackship Space!
Based on previous encounters, I see Taylor being dragged back to the Rig, and her getting pissed off and burny in response.
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- Little Rock, AR
I said that in the scenario where Taylor's lawyer is taking that tact that the PRT should have trained her so that she did not lose her cool and go all excessive force on Cricket, such a tactic would in light of her current decisions come off as hypocritical cost her friends in the prt, and damage her friendships outside of them. It one thing to not want to join someone. It's another to use that same group as a scapegoat to get off for something that in the logic of her defense would not have been possible if she had complied with that group.
Always Late
Lacking in coffee, sleep, and brains
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- Ohio
You know, just for once, I'd like a story not to involve A. Phoenix Force waking up and going fiery so early into a story, and B. Another 'Taylor goes kill-crazy against worse-than-villains PRT' story. I'm looking for something new here.
The former, I get if the author sticks with it. It's exactly what the Pheonix Force did in the X-Men comics. But again, I'd like something different from what everyone else has done, and the wait for the force to awaken has no bearing on the story, unless you've read the X-men comics. I would like Taylor to know that every time she gets upset, she risks unleashing a genocidal primal force, and fight both the villains and her own tumultuous emotions. It's a new spin of a proven concept, ala Bruce Banner and the Hulk.
As for the latter, If I wanted a fic like that, I'd re-read 'Here Be Dragons'. Besides, I'm a little sick of the flanderization of the PRT. The PRT and Protectorate is tying to make the best of a very bad situation, and have many important but minute details that others above me have outlined. I'm not asking that Piggot get rid of her prejudice, or Armsmaster turn into a social master, but is it too much to ask for a Protectorate that's rational and competent?
I actually think she's just going to fly off. The problems are going to begin when they start scouring the city to bring her in for real. She's slipped her leash for a pretty damned long time, when it really comes down to it. I don't think they can ignore this one, especially when the PRT is more than likely legally liable for her actions. She managed a good tightrope act, but this is probably going to be the end of the rope.
chibipoe
May I tell you of the glory that is Catradora?
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- Astoria, Oregon
Well, there's a lot of thoughtful here, so let me see if I can address it without being too spoilery.... actually, I'll just pm you.
I dunno I kinda figure the current arc will culminate in something similar to when you wake up in the middle of the night to use the bathroom or get a drink. you need to do something but you're not really awake more sleep walking. Then once you've taken care of your issue you stumble back to bed and go right back to sleep.
That's my speculative take on what might happen in regards to the phoenix force. Granted I could be wrong as hell and the phoenix wakes up and nukes the planet but meh.
That's my speculative take on what might happen in regards to the phoenix force. Granted I could be wrong as hell and the phoenix wakes up and nukes the planet but meh.
chibipoe
May I tell you of the glory that is Catradora?
- Location
- Astoria, Oregon
There isn't currently any planetary nuking on the table.
You do know there's an absolute shit-ton of fics on this site and that most of them follow what you want right? Hell, most of the ongoing fics at the moment have Taylor actually joning the Wards/Protectorate. If you don't like the plot point that the author is choosing to write even though it's obviously a popular one why don't you just find another fic to read? I know that there are some plot points I dislike and don't read fics because of them (TGWP coming to mind for one), but I dont go into the thread just to complain at the author that I don't like how they're writing the fic just because I don't like it with no real reason other than bias put on by other fics that are not even in this site. :/. That's just rude and serves no purpose since those aren't really flaws your pointing out just complaining based on outside factors that have very little to do with the fic and almost everything to do with your own reading preferences based on what you've already read.
Hell if anything I would go in the completely opposite direction, if for once love to see Taylor in an actual long fic smash a town or go big in some way. It's very rarely explored that she ever makes a big splash in the world in some way that's not usually at the very least 90% positive. And from what I've been reading as well I would say that quite a few people would like to see Taylor do some serious damage to the setting or the Villains/select members of the PRT. Besides your idea for basically "Taylor has an Op power that she has to constantly hold back otherwise she would kill a lot of people and do a lot of damage" is cliche as hell in this fandom. Much more so than one where she lets loose or gets set off in some way. I'm not saying anything about planet nuking etc. But I much prefer anything other than another story with Taylor getting an amazing power and constantly holding back (and usually angsting) in fear of it like what you just described.
sainen
Elder Lich
Air can be just as destructive as any other element, after all just look at Tornados and hurricanes.
as for the Air Nation as aggressors I can't help but imagine them as mongols with Air cavalry.
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- Crackship Space!
Bear Cavalry you mean. Because that's pants shittingly terrifying.
chibipoe
May I tell you of the glory that is Catradora?
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- Astoria, Oregon
Flying bison cavalry, to be precise.
Here I thought I was the only one who was bothered by this. I know it's just a one-off joke, but still.
I fully support the mocking of those who have English as their first language and fail at it.
Of course, then I would occasionally mock myself...
Are you kidding? According to the interlude where Victoria almost kills that Nazi, she doesn't give two fucks about accountability.
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- Over the hill and far away
Prrreetttyyyy much.
I'd say more, but I just got gigged for saying bad things about Nazis, so, uh... I'm gonna go check and see if up is still down now.
I'm honestly not sure how this chapter can even be discussed any more at this point? Next chapter please, I guess?
Arimai
Curmudgeon
I don't know about that. If someone buried me in a pile of kittens I'd be very angry once the epi pen killed my alergic reaction. It'd be more likely to trigger a rampage.
Think puppies or something then, stop being such a pedant, I'm sure you can understand the gist of what he's saying.
Hell Vicky's probably done worse and I imagine they're aware of it. Thing is neither Victoria or Purity are their legal responsibility to the same degree Taylor is. PRT's hands are a bit tied here. Thanks Coil and Danny!