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Firebird, a Worm AU/Xover?

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pheonix89 said:
Funny thing about dealing with mid-level and up capes - their personal reactions have large-scale policy ramifications. When you go after a high-level blaster like Purity, for instance, you have weigh whatever your objective is against the risk of someone who can casually level city blocks flipping their shit. And no, removing a child from a home, NO MATTER HOW BAD THE HOME, is not worth having a Purity-level blaster rampage.
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So powerful capes are above the law now?
 
shade argost said:
The E88 were finished and they took Aster before Purity could get back home after their IDs were released (probably a Coil plot there) if they had waited I believe Purity would have gone with Aster.
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Except she didn't. You're making up an action that makes getting Aster seem wrong just to justify it being wrong.
 
VolantRedX, of course powerful capes are, to some extent, above the law.
Just like mob bosses are to some extent above the law, as are politicians, celebrities and other prominent figures in society.

Obviously they shouldn't be in an ideal world, but in practice that's exactly what they are. There are all manner of situations where it takes either integrity and determination on the part of the individual, or institutional pressure, for anything to get done that goes against the powerful person's interests.
The powerful person doesn't even have to push for it or request it, a lot of the time; people concerned about their reaction will smooth things over or brush them under the rug before the powerful individual involved even hears about it.
This happens *all the time*, in bureaucracies and organisations, in individual interactions, all across society. It's all the more understandable dealing with Capes, because just one Cape can change around the dynamics of a whole city in a few months (viz Skitter).
 
elarasilk said:
VolantRedX, of course powerful capes are, to some extent, above the law.
Just like mob bosses are to some extent above the law, as are politicians, celebrities and other prominent figures in society.

Obviously they shouldn't be in an ideal world, but in practice that's exactly what they are. There are all manner of situations where it takes either integrity and determination on the part of the individual, or institutional pressure, for anything to get done that goes against the powerful person's interests.
The powerful person doesn't even have to push for it or request it, a lot of the time; people concerned about their reaction will smooth things over or brush them under the rug before the powerful individual involved even hears about it.
This happens *all the time*, in bureaucracies and organisations, in individual interactions, all across society. It's all the more understandable dealing with Capes, because just one Cape can change around the dynamics of a whole city in a few months (viz Skitter).
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So why not let Kaiser open up death camps or let Lung open a slave market at the mall? They are as you say above the law. Why even pretend that they aren't?
 
shade argost said:
He said to some extent, death camps and slave markets are way over the line, waiting for a mother to get home and talking to her about her daughter is not.
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They were planning on arresting her when she got home and removed the infant ahead of time. Purity was a murderer and a high level enforcer in the E88. She was going to jail for a long damn time.
 
VolantRedX said:
They were planning on arresting her when she got home and removed the infant ahead of time. Purity was a murderer and a high level enforcer in the E88. She was going to jail for a long damn time.
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Which sent her berserk when they found out, if they had used their heads a little bit they would have thought of a different solution.

Also I believe that Purity lived in an upper middle class house which they would know, her ID was a suspicion revealed on the news and they should have seen that she cared for her infant daughter when they got into her house.

P.s. Bolded and underlined bit most important
 
shade argost said:
Which sent her berserk when they found out, if they had used their heads a little bit they would have thought of a different solution.

Also I believe that Purity lived in an upper middle class house which they would know, her ID was a suspicion revealed on the news and they should have seen that she cared for her infant daughter when they got into her house.

P.s. Bolded and underlined bit most important
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Alright here's the issue, it doesn't matter if Purity was mom of century. She was a murderer, a criminal bent on the elimination of non-white races. Her home can't be considered a healthy environment for a child to grow up in.
 
VolantRedX said:
Alright here's the issue, it doesn't matter if Purity was mom of century. She was a murderer, a criminal bent on the elimination of non-white races. Her home can't be considered a healthy environment for a child to grow up in.
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Here's a question, how would they even know it was Purity's home in the first place?

They where working with unreliable and unconfirmed information from an unknown source, they could have been taking a child from a completely innocent woman at the time.
 
shade argost said:
Here's a question, how would they even know it was Purity's home in the first place?

They where working with unreliable and unconfirmed information from an unknown source, they could have been taking a child from a completely innocent woman at the time.
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If they were wrong she'd get the kid back. If she had stayed calm she might have been able to fake being normal. Instead she goes on a rampage killing dozens of innocent people. Thus proving That she's a violent criminal. Which means that her home is no place to raise a child.
 
VolantRedX said:
If they were wrong she'd get the kid back. If she had stayed calm she might have been able to fake being normal. Instead she goes on a rampage killing dozens of innocent people. Thus proving That she's a violent criminal. Which means that her home is no place to raise a child.
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I'm pretty sure any parent is going to flip their shit when they find out their kid was effectively abducted, Volant.
 
VolantRedX said:
If they were wrong she'd get the kid back. If she had stayed calm she might have been able to fake being normal. Instead she goes on a rampage killing dozens of innocent people. Thus proving That she's a violent criminal. Which means that her home is no place to raise a child.
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I dought she could have kept up the normal guise (there are para-humans that can detect other para-humans) and as you have said she is dangerous, but taking her daughter and useing her subsequent rampage (which was induced by taking her daughter(they would have known this would happen from thinkers(also should have been in the PRTs jurisdiction not social as Purity is a confirmed para-human))) as proof that Aster being taken was a good idea in the first place.

landcollector said:
I'm pretty sure any parent is going to flip their shit when they find out their kid was effectively abducted, Volant.
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And there's this.
 
So, is it just me, or has there been a lot less Jean bleed-through in this second arc? I mean, there's the bird emblem, but other than that I haven't noticed.
 
Sasha said:
So, is it just me, or has there been a lot less Jean bleed-through in this second arc? I mean, there's the bird emblem, but other than that I haven't noticed.
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Gotta leave at least a little bit of Taylor in there! :D

As much fun as reading a story of high school - early college age Jean Grey in Worm might be (back when Jean was fucking awesome) that is not this story.
 
MadGreenSon said:
Gotta leave at least a little bit of Taylor in there! :D

As much fun as reading a story of high school - early college age Jean Grey in Worm might be (back when Jean was fucking awesome) that is not this story.
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Don't get me wrong, I wasn't complaining, I was just curious about it (seemingly) stopping.
 
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