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Now that I think about it, if we follow the original timeline,Muramasa must come to the last of all the other members of his family in join chaldeas.
I wonder how it would be his reaction to get to chaldeas and find all his extended family reunited.
for some reason I think it would be something like an original muramasa saying "I'm too old for this shit" and giving up body control to Shirou
 
mart211319 said:
Now that I think about it, if we follow the original timeline,Muramasa must come to the last of all the other members of his family in join chaldeas.
I wonder how it would be his reaction to get to chaldeas and find all his extended family reunited.
for some reason I think it would be something like an original muramasa saying "I'm too old for this shit" and giving up body control to Shirou
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Not to pop most bubbles but IIRC Shiroumasa was from the Apocrypha timeline so he might not have even met Rin or Sakura as the Grail was removed from Fuyuki.

So if anything he might know Tohsaka Sakura instead.
 
Academic Guardian said:
Not to pop most bubbles but IIRC Shiroumasa was from the Apocrypha timeline so he might not have even met Rin or Sakura as the Grail was removed from Fuyuki.

So if anything he might know Tohsaka Sakura instead.
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You must be referring to Shirou Kotomine (aka Shirou Tokisada Amakusa) for the Apocrypha. The Shirou/Muramasa thing was from Epic of Remnant in the Shinjuku incident IIRC.
 
Rogue Gemini said:
You must be referring to Shirou Kotomine (aka Shirou Tokisada Amakusa) for the Apocrypha. The Shirou/Muramasa thing was from Epic of Remnant in the Shinjuku incident IIRC.
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No i meant that according the Fate/Apocrypha material - Encyclopedia: Fuyuki p.182 Shirou Emiya (who isn't named Emiya btw because the 4th grail war didn't happen) is the Shirou being possessed by Muramasa.
 
For real?
I never knew, so since the year the extra material was released, we already had muramasa (shirou) as a pseudo server announced?
or is a new information that was put in some extra material with the recent anime?
 
mart211319 said:
For real?
I never knew, so since the year the extra material was released, we already had muramasa (shirou) as a pseudo server announced?
or is a new information that was put in some extra material with the recent anime?
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The Fate/Apocrypha material was published in 2015.
 
Academic Guardian said:
No i meant that according the Fate/Apocrypha material - Encyclopedia: Fuyuki p.182 Shirou Emiya (who isn't named Emiya btw because the 4th grail war didn't happen) is the Shirou being possessed by Muramasa.
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Objection!
There's a gaping hole in your logic; namely that Muramasa only turned up two years after Apocrypha Materials. When he's entirely unrelated to Apocrypha other than the claim of being Apocrypha Shirou, him being mentioned in the Materials seems odd.
-Fuyuki [Place]
A certain provincial city. In these novels, the Holy Grail War doesn't occur there, of course, and as a result, the mayor of Fuyuki, Himuro-san, doesn't get a pained stomach from that Great Fire Disaster.
And of course, that red-haired boy is living there with his original surname unchanged, but still having a honest and upright personality (as shown in his appearance in "Capsule Servant"), and likely going through days with a love comedy-like tone, along with a twin-tail magic-fist user and her cheerful little sister who laughs like a high-class young lady.
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And as it turns out, the bit on Fuyuki in the Materials I know of doesn't say anything on Muramasa.
If you want to continue asserting this link, you're going to have to get a better citation than a claim and just linking the wiki's list of materials books. However, given Muramasa is unlikely to be turning up for a long while, continuing this argument might be a bit off-topic for the thread.
 
Grue said:

Objection!
There's a gaping hole in your logic; namely that Muramasa only turned up two years after Apocrypha Materials. When he's entirely unrelated to Apocrypha other than the claim of being Apocrypha Shirou, him being mentioned in the Materials seems odd.

And as it turns out, the bit on Fuyuki in the Materials I know of doesn't say anything on Muramasa.
If you want to continue asserting this link, you're going to have to get a better citation than a claim and just linking the wiki's list of materials books. However, given Muramasa is unlikely to be turning up for a long while, continuing this argument might be a bit off-topic for the thread.
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Thank you for that. I had trouble finding the information on that particular Shirou. AFAIK, Epic of Remnant won't be covered for quite some time if this story is following the storyline on the NA side. OTOH, if the author intends to cover all the Singularities and EoR, that is fine too.
 
Muramasa is definitely in Shirou Emiya's body. He activates his Noble Phantasm with a variation of Emiya's chant and, more importantly, his first mention was in Emiya's profile in Grand Order materials (which he was mentioned as Emiya saying something along the lines of "Not bad at all"). The reason he's in Emiya's body is that they experienced a similar life and end.

He simply cannot be in the body of a Shirou who did not obtain some sort of power.
 
Kinda neat that Shirou became a Lawyer, I confess. Matches up well with his 'desire to save people', too.
 
Mizu said:
Kinda neat that Shirou became a Lawyer, I confess. Matches up well with his 'desire to save people', too.
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It's canonically what he was aiming for before the HGW bowled in, IIRC.
Which is presumably why TM went Ace Attorney for him and Kirei in that particular April Fools.
Edit: AAAND ZABANIYA STRIKES THE HEART.
 
Actually, does anyone know who the Archer is EMIYA's war was? This update made me wonder that, and I don't know if it's ever been answered.
 
RBomber said:
Some fanon consider it Fate-route Shirou, or something like that. Also, narratively here, EMIYA was most likely came from Fate or something close.
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It is canon that EMIYA had a Fate-like route.

Unlimited Blade Works BD set II said:
Q: What was the Fifth Grail War that Heroic Spirit Emiya experienced in his lifetime like? Was the Archer summoned there also Emiya?
Nasu: It was a world where the conditions at the beginning of the war were mostly the same, but something was missing. Shirou summoned Saber and fought until the end, didn't save Saber's heart but understood her, and they destroyed the grail together and parted... that's the image I have.
Takeuchi: Ahh, so something like a Fate route Good End we didn't make in the game?!
Nasu: Yeah, probably. After that, it is believed he cooperates with Rin who survived, and heads to London.
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Oshha said:
It is canon that EMIYA had a Fate-like route.
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Also supposedly had a lot more Illya-centric focus than the three canon routes; not actually a route for her, though, much to her lament.

I believe (and this is likely bad fanon) that her unavoidable post-war death is what made EMIYA decide to leave Fuyuki behind for good.
 
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