A sentient solipsistic black hole which UCS rode into battle, who ascended Qaf and who can force apart the layers or Malfeas.
Even when you take out the more "Brozi" (yes that's a term) elements that crept in at the end of 2E he's still pretty cool.
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Even when you take out the more "Brozi" (yes that's a term) elements that crept in at the end of 2E he's still pretty cool.
And yet we'll only have one more chance to get Sorcery at all and the simple fact of the matter is that it's very unlikely to win the next time.
Arguing for Sorcery everytime it comes up only to lose against something else is incredibly exhausting. The enthusiasm one has for anything is finite and the arguments for or against Sorcery don't really change or improve everytime things get rehashed again, especially when the options Sorcery has to compete against are always going to be fresh and objectively of roughly the same potency.
It's not like taking Sorcery right now wouldn't give us access to a whole bunch of very potent assets, which would be especially useful now that we start to move away from training and towards field missions, but the fact that this could very easily lead to us failing to get Sorcery at all and therefor lock us out of all the SCS perks as well is not really something we should ignore when making this decision either.
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Vote count for the previous decision point.
EDIT: including lost votes for Polemgaos part.
Not entirely sure if anyone is for continuing the tournament, maybe some people who chose Counter-Infiltration.
Two explicit votes for Cavalier's write-in, which according to its contents I spread to "I meant to do that", Counter-Infiltration and Withdraw.
Polemgaos:
[X] Demonstrate Massive and Total Remorse.
No. of votes: 36
Alectai, Deadly Snark, vali, Brekouh, SirLagginton, Mannan, Gaudy Guise, LordOfMurder, a11behringer, kinglugia, Yzarc, Grimmair, aja318, Ridiculously Average Guy, Random Asian Person, SometimesMaybe, inventive alias, Khaos, Jinnt, Candesce, TMIoverload, Reckless_Sun, Brain_Caster, BSRK Aditya, Diller, veekie, CharlBaal, LastChronicler, meianmaru, dragon, Daniel14541, Serous, Panther, Aloysius, DOOMPOTATO, Vitaris
[X] I meant to do that
No. of votes: 21
Robotninja, vel10, Cavalier, Thomasfoolery, Usernames, Satar, sithmor, cyberswordsmen, 1986ctcel, CrawlingChaos74, Dark Lord Bob, afterthought53, Emerald Oracle, Algalon, Gerrou, longmasher, Dream Logic, inawarminister, Anasurimbor, Pipeman, Da Boyz
[X] Don't worry, I struck you with the flat side of the- hm. Hmm.
No. of votes: 9
Van Ropen, Kurowari, me.me.here, CrossyCross, useofstrike32, Fumbles, Guile, Orm Embar, Savonarola
Infernals:
[X] Forbearance
No. of votes: 7
SirLagginton, Van Ropen, Gaudy Guise, Robotninja, Random Asian Person, SometimesMaybe, Dark Lord Bob
[X] Counter-Infiltration
No. of votes: 20
LordOfMurder, me.me.here, CrossyCross, Ridiculously Average Guy, Fumbles, Thomasfoolery, Usernames, Satar, sithmor, cyberswordsmen, 1986ctcel, CrawlingChaos74, afterthought53, CharlBaal, Reckless_Sun, Algalon, BSRK Aditya, Gerrou, Dream Logic, inawarminister
Tournament:
[X] Withdraw from the Tournament.
No. of votes: 12
Alectai, Brekouh, Mannan, a11behringer, Yzarc, aja318, inventive alias, Khaos, Brain_Caster, Diller, Dream Logic, inawarminister
Vote count for the previous decision point.
EDIT: including lost votes for Polemgaos part.
Not entirely sure if anyone is for continuing the tournament, maybe some people who chose Counter-Infiltration.
Two explicit votes for Cavalier's write-in, which according to its contents I spread to "I meant to do that", Counter-Infiltration and Withdraw.
Polemgaos:
[X] Demonstrate Massive and Total Remorse.
No. of votes: 36
Alectai, Deadly Snark, vali, Brekouh, SirLagginton, Mannan, Gaudy Guise, LordOfMurder, a11behringer, kinglugia, Yzarc, Grimmair, aja318, Ridiculously Average Guy, Random Asian Person, SometimesMaybe, inventive alias, Khaos, Jinnt, Candesce, TMIoverload, Reckless_Sun, Brain_Caster, BSRK Aditya, Diller, veekie, CharlBaal, LastChronicler, meianmaru, dragon, Daniel14541, Serous, Panther, Aloysius, DOOMPOTATO, Vitaris
[X] I meant to do that
No. of votes: 21
Robotninja, vel10, Cavalier, Thomasfoolery, Usernames, Satar, sithmor, cyberswordsmen, 1986ctcel, CrawlingChaos74, Dark Lord Bob, afterthought53, Emerald Oracle, Algalon, Gerrou, longmasher, Dream Logic, inawarminister, Anasurimbor, Pipeman, Da Boyz
[X] Don't worry, I struck you with the flat side of the- hm. Hmm.
No. of votes: 9
Van Ropen, Kurowari, me.me.here, CrossyCross, useofstrike32, Fumbles, Guile, Orm Embar, Savonarola
Infernals:
[X] Forbearance
No. of votes: 7
SirLagginton, Van Ropen, Gaudy Guise, Robotninja, Random Asian Person, SometimesMaybe, Dark Lord Bob
[X] Counter-Infiltration
No. of votes: 20
LordOfMurder, me.me.here, CrossyCross, Ridiculously Average Guy, Fumbles, Thomasfoolery, Usernames, Satar, sithmor, cyberswordsmen, 1986ctcel, CrawlingChaos74, afterthought53, CharlBaal, Reckless_Sun, Algalon, BSRK Aditya, Gerrou, Dream Logic, inawarminister
Tournament:
[X] Withdraw from the Tournament.
No. of votes: 12
Alectai, Brekouh, Mannan, a11behringer, Yzarc, aja318, inventive alias, Khaos, Brain_Caster, Diller, Dream Logic, inawarminister
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He didn't actually manage to reach the top of Qaf as it's infinite, but he did leave behind a footprint which is still trying to reach the top though.
Ah, thanks, I haven't read Yozi-lore for a while.
Yeah I know I was advocating remorse. Rihaku said it would help with damage control.
*mutters grumpily* My Exalted books are in iBooks, and when I have to reference them I have to close The Fires of Heaven.
It's from Ink Monkeys. The Primordials gave tests to the Sun to prove he was the pinnacle of perfection:
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This seems incomplete, I recall the last vote count had over 60 participants in Remorse vs Meant To vs Write In, but this only has 50? If it is accurate, though, that would be a dramatic shift towards War; the Realm Civil War may indeed be about to start!
The way you described Remorse seemed similar to this write-in (explicitly different enough from Remorse to be a seperate vote):
This write-in lost.
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Guile
Having a really great time right now
Well the write-in went from 12+ to 6, but that might be people switching to the regular vote prompts...
Its actually faster to grab than the Shrike. Just three charms, Occult 5 and Essence 5.
Really, in my opinion sorcerer is strategically slower, but has significantly higher utility than Strategos. The cost of that is that it guzzles a lot more XP than Strategos. It requires XP for spells to increase its utility, while it requires XP to make slower workings to match Prophet. It also does not have future access to things like Wake the Sleeper or Tireless Mind Prana, which are hilariously XP efficient with FSSA. Basically, as long as we are willing to burn XP, Sorcery is the stronger choice than Strategos. On the other hand, all that Solar XP could be used to level up other stuff like our Evocations, so the choice is more like Sorcery or Strategos + Evocations, so the choice is more along the lines of if we want more versatility and branch out or if we want to continue seeking excellence in the relatively narrow field of battle.
I was talking more about the fact that we would be E5/late E4.
I was talking more about the fact that we would be E5/late E4.
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If you want an accurate vote you need a hand count. Since you said the Sorcery/Strategoes vote didn't need revoting the Remorse/Meant to do it vote got messed up except for the people who ignored your instructions and revoted anyway.
That's why the still open votes need to be included whenever you open a new vote. Unless you like non representative vote counts.
Guile
Having a really great time right now
Battle/investigation/assassination/soothsaying.
You said the votes for the previous option was closed, so quite a few us only voted on Sorcery and Strategos
If we're going to war after all, I'd like to reiterate that I think we should really not stick around for the Tournament in that case.
Showing up, slaughtering freaking Polemgaos and leaving people to their ridiculous little frivolities makes a lot greater of an impression than sticking around afterwards would, even if it wasn't almost assured the rest of the Tournament would be a mediocre and discrediting performance in contrast.
Not to mention that it becomes paramount to rush back and inform Zao of what the hell happened and to start making our move, not only because we really need to do that as quickly as possible but also to prevent any chance whatsoever of people noticing through a lack of coordiantion that, no, that was just a gigantic blunder of untold proportions.
I suppose a plan to bully Ayala into contacting Zao for us immediately could also be viable, but it's intensely risky and sticking around for even that long is likely to diminish the impact of our showing, could potentially lead to us being hit with criminal charges before we get out, could lead to boatloads of trouble if we're spotted and is inherently dangerous because we'd be trying to bully two badass Infernals.
Showing up, slaughtering freaking Polemgaos and leaving people to their ridiculous little frivolities makes a lot greater of an impression than sticking around afterwards would, even if it wasn't almost assured the rest of the Tournament would be a mediocre and discrediting performance in contrast.
Not to mention that it becomes paramount to rush back and inform Zao of what the hell happened and to start making our move, not only because we really need to do that as quickly as possible but also to prevent any chance whatsoever of people noticing through a lack of coordiantion that, no, that was just a gigantic blunder of untold proportions.
I suppose a plan to bully Ayala into contacting Zao for us immediately could also be viable, but it's intensely risky and sticking around for even that long is likely to diminish the impact of our showing, could potentially lead to us being hit with criminal charges before we get out, could lead to boatloads of trouble if we're spotted and is inherently dangerous because we'd be trying to bully two badass Infernals.
Sigh I swear this happens like every update.
Does update.
Adds new choices midway between updates.
People votes for new choices and disregards old choices.
Also, yeah now that I'm thinking about it, I think the rationale for Sticking around was to get the Infernals and other people on our side or something. Not entirely sure if that'll offset the risks though.
Does update.
Adds new choices midway between updates.
People votes for new choices and disregards old choices.
Also, yeah now that I'm thinking about it, I think the rationale for Sticking around was to get the Infernals and other people on our side or something. Not entirely sure if that'll offset the risks though.
It's a bit different when he literally said that votes will no longer impact that decision, but, yes, this is rather headache inducing.
Trying to account for that mess in a final tally now.
Rihaku
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It wasn't really an open vote any more, I didn't think we'd get any more voters. That's why I said not to bother re-voting.
Rihaku
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Indeed; you should assume that high performing Celestial Exalts behave like PCs, though less inconsistent. For example, if you guys were playing Ayala, Mighty Sorceress, would YOU back down in the face of intimidation? Or would you damn the torpedoes and rush full speed ahead into a confrontation with this obvious and arrant bully, trusting in your superlative capacity to handle his strength?
Is Ayala going to accidentally Ulyssian?
Could we just take a Stress point for Intensive Training and then get the Sorcerer and Strategos but minus the 3(?) free-floating charm slots?