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Sydonai said:
That seems stupidly labor-intensive.
Don't wear yourself out.
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I've been working on it idly for a long time.

Roadie said:
Well, what I'm doing is purely OGL - which means I'm doing everything off the SRD to avoid any seemingly stupid "gotchas" (for example, Eldritch Blast isn't in there).

That said, I definitely welcome text contributions,, but it all has to end up in Markdown format (e.g. plain text with asterisks for emphasis, #'s for headers, etc) rather than rich text.

For an example, take a look at the formatting of alter self.
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While I'd be happy to help, I'm not quite sure what is and isn't covered by the OGL. So I think I'll pass, unless there are things you know that need to be done and can point me in the direction of.
 
Omicron said:
You know, I wish some fantasy settings had the daring to move on from "all dragons are Smaug" and went with "dragons are horse-sized winged lizards, very dumb and very hungry."
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That's fine too. My main issue with dragons in DnD is that there are too many types of them for a world smaller than Jupiter to support, and that each type is color coded for your convenience. It makes much more sense when "dragon" is just one species, with individuals maybe varying if you really want one to have ice breath or some shit.

Personally, I'd like to see more eastern style dragons in fantasy fiction. Benevolent elemental demigods.
 
One silly take on D&D dragons that I personally rather like:

All dragons are actually gradual shapeshifters and can change colors (and the traits that go with them) slowly over time if they wish. "Generic dragons" are a sort of slate grey and have no breath weapon or color-specific abilities, but most dragons rarely spend any time in this state past wyrmlinghood, because dragon culture puts a high value on advertising your beliefs and philosophy via scale colors.

It doesn't quite work right with the mechanics as is, but you can sort of make it fit if you kludge the numbers a little, and it goes a long way towards explaining why there are like eight hundred different specific varieties of "true dragon".

Blake Hannon said:
and that each type is color coded for your convenience
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Well, yeah. That's the point, see? A dragon who doesn't advertise his philosophical allegiance in colors and form particulars you can see from a mile off is probably some honorless weirdo who you can't trust to uphold any principles at all.

Sort of like Klingons meets Planescape.
 
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Blake Hannon said:
That's fine too. My main issue with dragons in DnD is that there are too many types of them for a world smaller than Jupiter to support, and that each type is color coded for your convenience. It makes much more sense when "dragon" is just one species, with individuals maybe varying if you really want one to have ice breath or some shit.

Personally, I'd like to see more eastern style dragons in fantasy fiction. Benevolent elemental demigods.
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Exalted!

Well, for a given value of "benevolent."

More like "corrupt bureaucrat elemental demigods" really.
 
Blake Hannon said:
That's fine too. My main issue with dragons in DnD is that there are too many types of them for a world smaller than Jupiter to support, and that each type is color coded for your convenience. It makes much more sense when "dragon" is just one species, with individuals maybe varying if you really want one to have ice breath or some shit.

Personally, I'd like to see more eastern style dragons in fantasy fiction. Benevolent elemental demigods.
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To be fair, most D&D settings assume a multiverse, and dragons usually easily travel through them because seriously what chump doesn't have Plane Shift?
 
Omicron said:
Exalted!

Well, for a given value of "benevolent."

More like "corrupt bureaucrat elemental demigods" really.
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That's fairly close to how they are in my current campaign (I say "campaign" rather than "campaign setting" because I reinvent it every time I run a campaign there).

In the early days of the world, when everything was more chaotic and things hadn't fully stabilized into the current natural order, the dominant races were elemental creatures. Since the world has calmed down since then, most of the elemental creatures have gone dormant and just become part of the planet, lost their elemental traits and become mundane fleshies, or retreated to hidden places where things are still chaotic enough for them. Two exceptions to this are the dragons (fire) and the giants (earth).

Dragons are extremely haughty, due to both their nature (they're kind of antisocial and narcissistic innately) and due to knowing they're one of the oldest sapient species in the world. They don't crave wealth like in some settings, but authority. Dragons rule a bunch of kingdoms and minor fiefdoms throughout the world, and the main reason they haven't conquered everything is because they compete so fiercely among themselves and many would rather see an area of land go dragon-less than let one of their rivals conquer it.

Dragons are, as a rule, assholes, but they can be productive assholes. Each dragon wants to glorify itself and its relatives as much as possible, so grandiose acts of mercy and charity are semi frequent.
 
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Blake Hannon said:
That's fine too. My main issue with dragons in DnD is that there are too many types of them for a world smaller than Jupiter to support, and that each type is color coded for your convenience.
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On most worlds Dragons are never all awake at the same time, most are sleeping(for years, decades, or even centuries) at any given moment.
And they are mostly supported by magic rather than biology.

Also, how did you like the way Eberron handled them?
Blake Hannon said:
Personally, I'd like to see more eastern style dragons in fantasy fiction. Benevolent elemental demigods.
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Kara Tur and Rokugan.
Roadie said:
One silly take on D&D dragons that I personally rather like:
All dragons are actually gradual shapeshifters and can change colors (and the traits that go with them) slowly over time if they wish.
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That's how "World of Prime" does it.
 
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Havock said:
We have wyverns for that. Or drakes, or whatever you call them.
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Right, but that just makes them "fake dragons." I'm talking about a setting in which this is what dragons are, the creatures of legend and myth are these things, and there are no treasure-hoarding building-sized lizard-shaped wizards.
 
Sydonai said:
You'll want to read the Discworld books then.
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Discworld goes too far in the other direction to my taste, by making them mostly harmless dog-sized stuff.

Like, the dragon St George is depicted as fighting is rarely bigger than his horse, sometimes even less, and yet it terrorized an entire city into giving it people to eat.

I'm talking something small, feral, but fast and powerful enough (and with, like, poison or fire breath) that it can still threaten a town or a city and require a hero to put down.
 
Omicron said:
Like, the dragon St George is depicted as fighting is rarely bigger than his horse, sometimes even less, and yet it terrorized an entire city into giving it people to eat.
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So, a dragon about as big as a grizzly bear.

Hmm.

I feel like a fire-breathing bear could probably terrorize a whole town, even without the ability to fly.
 
Omicron said:
Discworld goes too far in the other direction to my taste, by making them mostly harmless dog-sized stuff.

Like, the dragon St George is depicted as fighting is rarely bigger than his horse, sometimes even less, and yet it terrorized an entire city into giving it people to eat.

I'm talking something small, feral, but fast and powerful enough (and with, like, poison or fire breath) that it can still threaten a town or a city and require a hero to put down.
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I'm pretty sure that the dragon Saint George fought isn't meant to be the size shown in the pictures, as a lot of mideval artwork is highly symbolic. For instance:

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Not even the size of a horse. Heck, not even the size of the maiden.
 
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A pseudodragon gone bad that grinded the local fauna for XP for some time?
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With Ranger levels, and Humanoid as their Favored Enemy.
Or Rogue/Scout levels.
(Flight, Sneak Attack, and Sleep Poison.:o)

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I've actually seen this character before, it was comparable to Tucker's Kobalds.
Although that one used Warlock levels and exploited the Lair/Horde rules(which I don't completely remember/understand) to turn a cave-system into a massive death-trap.
 
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Sydonai said:
Care to expand on that?
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PC's were after a magic item lost in a deep jungle haunted by an evil spirit. Before leaving town, they research the spirit and learn that it is associated with both plantlife, and with unseasonable rainstorms.

After exploring the jungle and dealing with the local creatures (including some really nasty carnivorous plants) for two days, they finally, through clever uses of divination magic and puzzle solving, managed to find an entrance to the cave system that the artifact is hidden in.

This cave system is infested with shambling mounds, which are even worse than the plants that they fought on the surface. The party warlock recognizes that the shambling mounds are whispering in an infernal dialect as they attack, really creepy and confusing phrases about "cracking open the hard shells to drink the sweet water within" and "so long since the water of life has fallen; these ones drip their own." The shambling mounds are really stealthy, they attack from the darkness or from under pools of water, and their leader is a shaman who can cause the roots that emerge from the cave walls to grab the PC's, or hypnotize them into walking into danger. He makes hit and run attacks throughout the dungeon crawl.

Finally, the PC's reach a central chamber. There's an underground pond of black water with a horrible shrine emerging from the far side of it; the roots that grow from the cave ceiling and floor have been formed into rows of giant teeth, and gems set into the wall above it to serve as a trio of eyes. Inside the "mouth" of the demonic face are the ancient skeletons of the original bearers of the magic item, surrounded with vines and roots, placed there as offerings by the shambling mounds. The shambling mound shaman makes his final stand here, but when the fight goes against him he retreats into the water and lets his minions hold the PC's back while he casts some complicated spell. As he casts it, the roots and plants throughout the entire cave twitch, and there's a feeling of electricity in the air. With some successful Arcana and Religion checks, the PC's learn that he's casting some kind of communion spell.

PC's kill the shambling mounds and take the magic item and other treasure, but they're very low on hp and spells. With their loot, they finally climb out of the cave and into the jungle...but find that the sun is no longer shining. The sky has become overcast. Rain begins to fall, and quickly gets harder. And then I start playing this and telling the PC's that they feel very strongly that they should run.

The forest has changed while they were underground. The trees and brambles have reformed themselves into obstacles. Plant monsters leap out of nowhere to attack and slow them down. Meanwhile, the rain comes down harder and harder, and they start to hear a deep, demonic voice chanting from the trees behind them, lulling them into slowing down, turning back, giving in (will saves to resist). They just barely managed to get out of the cursed valley before the demon could catch up with them (literally, they had one round left). One of them was actually about to turn back to buy the others time. I didn't stop looping the Spooky's House of Jumpscares music until they were out of the valley.

All four players had eyes the shape of saucers by the end. Two of them walked home together because they were afraid to go alone.


UPDATE: at least two of the players are furious at the demon for scaring the shit out of them, and are determined to come back in a few levels and kill the fucking thing. I've been thinking about letting them do that, and I've come up with an idea.

The rainstorms that surround the demon aren't just for decoration; they are actually the source of his power. When his rain soaks into the soil and into the roots of the jungle plants, they bring the forest under his dark influence, which is what allows him to manipulate the terrain, animate plant monsters, sneak through the forest swiftly and quietly despite his bulk, etc.

The PC's are in the process of learning this via research of old tomes and consulting summoned spirits (one of the PC's is a warlock with a particular knack for divination). Once they're done with that, they'll probably figure out that coming back to the jungle once they're high enough level to cast Control Weather is the key to victory.
 
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So what do y'all think of the "Third-Party" labels on here and here, and the "Source" box on the individual pages?

Also, the site finally has all the spell list stuff entered, and you might find the "(class)-Exclusive Spells" lists on the spellcasting class pages to be handy when comparing classes.
 
Roadie said:
So what do y'all think of the "Third-Party" labels on here and here, and the "Source" box on the individual pages?

Also, the site finally has all the spell list stuff entered, and you might find the "(class)-Exclusive Spells" lists on the spellcasting class pages to be handy when comparing classes.
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Someone pointed out to me that the warlock class page is missing parts of their spell list. Notable examples are Eldritch Blast (cantrip) and Hex (1st level). It may be related to the Warlock Exclusive spells section being empty.
 
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