Deep Red (Avatar: The Last Airbender)

This is a mess lol. To be honest, I'm thinking of taking a week off from Deep Red. The feedback is very intense and emphatic and pulls me in every direction, and lately working on this has just been extremely, extremely stressful. I understand that everyone has concerns and I'll do my best to take them into account but at the moment I don't think I can work on this very well and I haven't especially enjoyed it lately either.
Take what time you need. Tensions are running high, but both you and the audience will calm and be able to look at things with fresher eyes with a bit of a break. You've been doing wonderfully with the writing of the story, don't doubt it.

For all I know, I may end up deleting all this and redoing it again. I don't know.
I certainly hope you don't. I didn't vote for this path, but i think it's a perfectly good avenue for the quest to go down now that it's happened
 
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That last update was Ozai really showing off his "manipulative gaslighting fuck" chops. He's nasty when it comes to dishing that out; acting from a position of incontestable physical and social power, emotionally manipulating and undermining his victim, making sure that he can punish her and tell her that everything was her fault no matter what she did, and isolating her from all other sources of emotional support. He's checking all the boxes.
 
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At this point, running away the first good chance she gets is probably the best option.

Ozai's wrong about there being no other teachers, and I'd give him 95% odds on being wrong about Iroh's bridge being completely burned.
 
So you guys are going to actively vote for murder now, right? Because the lesson Ozai has managed to actually teach here is that playing favorites won't keep anyone safe from him.
 
This is a mess lol. To be honest, I'm thinking of taking a week off from Deep Red. The feedback is very intense and emphatic and pulls me in every direction, and lately working on this has just been extremely, extremely stressful. I understand that everyone has concerns and I'll do my best to take them into account but at the moment I don't think I can work on this very well and I haven't especially enjoyed it lately either. For all I know, I may end up deleting all this and redoing it again. I don't know. Thank you for reading, and I hope you can still enjoy the story.
Honestly? I would say ignore the feedback entirely for this chapter and just re-write it the way you want to write it.
 
@kosm
This line is different between fiction/akun version and here
"I'm sorry, Zuko," you whisper. "I've failed you in more ways than one."
The version on SV is missing the "in more ways that one" bit
 
Ozai is like... 15 pounds of crazy crammed into one of Iroh's tea bags. If he asked you what color the sky was and you answered blue, he'd tell you how you were wrong while lecturing as to how its your own fault you could be so wrong. He's the kind of mean and crazy that cant be reasoned with or rationalized. You'll only win against him when you slit is throat, and then make a nice cup of tea while watching him gurgle and die on the floor.

*shrug*

But none of the detracts my enjoyment from watching this all unfold. Its quite relaxing not being responsible in anyway for how this goes, lol. Plus, any way it goes its well written enough to be entertaining.
 
I love this story. I think we got so wrapped up in being better than Ozai that we lost our way.

Learn from Ozai and cut out the rot. Make plans that don't involve Azula, there's a whole world out there.

I'm incredibly greatful to have read this, let kosm rest for as much as needed then we can move forward.
 
This is a mess lol. To be honest, I'm thinking of taking a week off from Deep Red. The feedback is very intense and emphatic and pulls me in every direction, and lately working on this has just been extremely, extremely stressful. I understand that everyone has concerns and I'll do my best to take them into account but at the moment I don't think I can work on this very well and I haven't especially enjoyed it lately either. For all I know, I may end up deleting all this and redoing it again. I don't know. Thank you for reading, and I hope you can still enjoy the story.

Honestly, this is an excellent piece of writing, and it really tears my heart out, which means it's really good. However, I fully understand if you're not satisfied with your work.

If you want my honest opinion/advice, don't take too much stock with Anonkun's chat. Or even too much stock on SV either. What you need to focus on is the kind of story you want to write, which direction you want to take the story in. This story is your story, and other players are mere passengers in your vehicle. Players can get on and off, but it's up to you to drive the car.

If necessary, read chat minimally. Don't let it stress you, or get you down even.
 
If the live is getting salty about this I assume that the difference is the amount of investment between there and SV, its their decisions so when things go tits up its their fault however for us its mostly a story so it doesn't offend our pride or our fault.
 
This is a mess lol. To be honest, I'm thinking of taking a week off from Deep Red. The feedback is very intense and emphatic and pulls me in every direction, and lately working on this has just been extremely, extremely stressful. I understand that everyone has concerns and I'll do my best to take them into account but at the moment I don't think I can work on this very well and I haven't especially enjoyed it lately either. For all I know, I may end up deleting all this and redoing it again. I don't know. Thank you for reading, and I hope you can still enjoy the story.

First of all, take as long as you want. Ultimately you have no obligation to write this and there is no need to stress yourself over something.

And frankly if you want to keep it, then keep it. If you don't, then dump the chapter and rewrite it the way you want it to be, regardless of if the changes are just simple things like dialogue or even picking different choices than the audience had picked. Since this is your story to write when it comes down to it.

Sure, you have the voters but if you think it's not going to be going in a fun direction for you then there isn't a need to force yourself through that.
 
Ahaha ah yes. I'll admit it is really easy to get swept up by the panic and the salt . Specially when we're dealing with such infuriating developments.

It speaks of your ability as a writter to inspire such strong emotions. Though it kinda is noticeable how you're stressed about it all , taking a rest is probably for the best.
 
First of all, take as long as you want. Ultimately you have no obligation to write this and there is no need to stress yourself over something.

And frankly if you want to keep it, then keep it. If you don't, then dump the chapter and rewrite it the way you want it to be, regardless of if the changes are just simple things like dialogue or even picking different choices than the audience had picked. Since this is your story to write when it comes down to it.

Sure, you have the voters but if you think it's not going to be going in a fun direction for you then there isn't a need to force yourself through that.

To add to him, there are stories on Anonkun that have no reader votes, so you can move this to a traditional fanfic if you want.
 
This is a mess lol. To be honest, I'm thinking of taking a week off from Deep Red. The feedback is very intense and emphatic and pulls me in every direction, and lately working on this has just been extremely, extremely stressful. I understand that everyone has concerns and I'll do my best to take them into account but at the moment I don't think I can work on this very well and I haven't especially enjoyed it lately either. For all I know, I may end up deleting all this and redoing it again. I don't know. Thank you for reading, and I hope you can still enjoy the story.

In my opinion, this is a great chapter from a narrative perspective.

I'm not sure rewriting would solve much in terms of player satisfaction. I'm trying to think of a way everyone ends up happy here and I doubt there is one - it seems to stem from the fact that different factions of voters just have different opinions of what the character should be. And chat is just... toxic.

Have you thought of getting an intermediary to read chat and send you the important bits instead of combing through each sentence? There's a reason why a lot of published authors don't read negative reviews or go on Amazon at all - it's a huge drain on the creative process.
 
I'm away for a day and this happens.

DEFINITELY FUCKING NOT the road I would have voted for but honestly it is amazingly well written and I hope you keep on this road @kosm.

I just hope we take the right lessons from this for the future.
 


Holy shit, we just hit the *Bitter Work* episode.

All the pain and the effort to be the perfect princess, every heartache and every swallowed curse has led to this reward. The path we blazed down so brightly could have ended in no other clearing.
 
It's really just the disconnect from a story versus a quest. Watching it happen in real time with only votes between defiance and obey was absolutely brutal.
 
Indeed. My initial reaction on reading the last part was "welp, that's obnoxious", and from a quest management perspective I think it leaves much to be desired (though how to do such things well is another question).

That being said, on thinking about it I do think it's a strong narrative move. Leaving it with a "the lesson is abandon previous characterisation and just obey Ozai" would have just been incredibly weak for the character. This otoh stresses Akane's character in more interesting ways and allowing the possibility of building upon the previous character arc - though I'm inclined to think that things are likely to get worse before they get better.

(also one of the logical lessons to take from that is "never believe anything Ozai says" - which possibly isn't the lesson he wants Akane to take away)
 
I think purely on the strength of narrative that this scene was very strong, but obviously people get unhappy when bad things happen to a character they're invested in.

I don't really know what a good solution is, but regardless of what you choose I have confidence you'll write it well Kosm.
 
This otoh stresses Akane's character in more interesting ways and allowing the possibility of building upon the previous character arc - though I'm inclined to think that things are likely to get worse before they get better.
Very likely.

Though it might be better for both Kosm and chat to focus the next session's focus on Mitsuko trying to comfort a broken Akane and Akane finding new resolve.
 
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This was really fun to watch unfold. The tension between the decisions on what Akane was willing to give up and what she wanted to hold was intense, and while the vote certainly was a salt mine, I think it's a strong chapter both because of and in spite of that meta-tension.

While its hard to say I'm happy to read the suffering, I certainly think the story is better for it, and I'm excited to see where this'll go from here.
 
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