Who was the better QM?

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... well that is outside...

Mind you, finding real estate in a place away from Incubators or meguca might be difficult. Steal the (I think it's a memory device) from Asunaro, chase all the meguca out of a city, then set up camp?

Sadly, leaving the city at this juncture is a no-go no matter what they try. They can sure, but in the instant Madoka hears about Whataburger Night rampaging through the city like a Godzilla movie, she's going to contract to undo it all, and there's the quest-over.

But once that's dealt with, the easiest way for Homura to get Kyubey off Madoka's back, and make any place they go Incubator-free, is for her to make Madoka a woman. After all, if Kyubey's only interested in making magical girls...
 
Sadly, leaving the city at this juncture is a no-go no matter what they try. They can sure, but in the instant Madoka hears about Whataburger Night rampaging through the city like a Godzilla movie, she's going to contract to undo it all, and there's the quest-over.

Reasonable enough, yeah, makes sense.

But once that's dealt with, the easiest way for Homura to get Kyubey off Madoka's back, and make any place they go Incubator-free, is for her to make Madoka a woman. After all, if Kyubey's only interested in making magical girls...

**tilts head**

?
 
Well obviously, if Coobie only cares about magical girls, then it logically follows that once a girl ceases to be a girl and instead becomes a woman, he'll lose interest.

... riiiiiiiight'o then. New objective: Infiltrate Japan's central government in order to pass an initiative changing the legal age of adulthood in the region of Mitakihara. Possibly utilize time travel in order to go back in time further than you've ever gone before to make this change and the corresponding social ramifications retroactive. Problem solved.
 
... riiiiiiiight'o then. New objective: Infiltrate Japan's central government in order to pass an initiative changing the legal age of adulthood in the region of Mitakihara. Possibly utilize time travel in order to go back in time further than you've ever gone before to make this change and the corresponding social ramifications retroactive. Problem solved.

I mean, I'm not saying it'll work, but I'm not not saying it either.

Edit: Man, this whole page has been a bust so far, hasn't it? I think I'm going to write another omake while I wait.
 
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I admit, I'm not versed enough in my Type-Moon to know if there's an NP he can trace that has healing properties. Rule Breaker would allow him to undo her contract after she makes it, but does he have something like a healing knife so he can preemptively fix the guy?

For that matter, how do we know that Sayaka won't just find some other noble and just cause to fight for? She might get it in her head that whoever is responsible for the murders needs some good old fashioned "hero of justice"ing...

And while we're on the subject, is there a therapy knife that Archer can stab Homura with?



Because she's dealing with some pretty serious post-traumatic stress and it doesn't at all help that Madoka is her trigger.

Well, there are healing noble phantasms. several of them in fact. But the one Archer would be able to trace is Avalon. Avalon is the one Noble Phantasm that He can trace so perfectly that it does not decrease in its EX rank either does it degrade over time, unlike the other noble phantasms he traces. Since it was in his body when he was a child and grew up with it Avalon recognizes him as its second owner. and as long as Archer is nearby whoever Archer gives Avalon to, it will heal them.

It is also the Ultimate Defensive Noble Phantasm and the only Noble Phantasm capable of Defending against Gilgameshes Ea.






Then there is also a few others that archer may have come across in his life.

One of the more famous
healing /defensive noble phantasm. Is

Luminosite Eternelle.

The flag of Jeane de arc.



Then There is the all healing noble phantasm, pain breaker.



There are several other like Caduceus. Gilgamesh has that.



He could politely ask Gilgamesh for help?
 
I've been thinking about who the possible servants are and here are my favorites: scorpion as assassin, link as saber, and finally Mario jumpman as berserker : p
 
Kyubey
The incubator was out for a stroll around town. It wasn't a particularly unusual occurrence for the strange alien creature, in and of itself, but something felt off about this particular stroll. No, something was off about this particular day, and perhaps the one prior to this as well. The Incubator had made every intention of 'chancing' into the path of one Kaname Madoka but somehow, Kaname Madoka had not shown herself when and where she was supposed to. The Incubator supposed that perhaps it had mistaken the day, but that was impossible. Incubators do not make mistakes.

The Incubator had familiarized itself with the places of importance in this city, but today it had come across a place it had never seen before. A little hole-in-the-wall bar and restaurant, whose wooden signboard proudly proclaimed it to be the "Ahnenerbe". The Incubator supposed that it was fate which had led it to this unfamiliar location, and so it chanced a venture inside.

The interior of the restaurant was of a quaint and rustic aesthetic, and the staff were, by and large, composed of 'moe' catpeople cruelly stricken with dwarfism. The single human among the waitstaff was a young blonde woman with fierce and determined emerald eyes, wearing a blue maid uniform with a white shirt. The patrons of the establishment on the whole seemed enamoured by her antics - in particular one golden-haired male in an expensive fur coat, casually tossing fine jewels her way as though they were worth nothing - but one man, sitting by himself in the corner, seemed not to care.

By his garb, the Incubator guessed him to be a member of the Church. He sat alone eating from a piping hot bowl of curried tofu, when he glanced down at the Incubator. "Come, sit with me," he said, and the Incubator obliged.

"Normal humans cannot see me," The Incubator replied.

"Well, I suppose you wouldn't call me a 'normal' human."

"Well then, abnormal human, for what purpose have you asked me to join you?"

But before the abnormal human could respond, the man in the fur coat interrupted. "Oi, Kotomine," he said, grabbing the Incubator and picking it up by the scruff of its neck. "What have I told you about talking to strange animals?" For emphasis, the man gave the Incubator a couple shakes. "They might have diseases. What if the health inspector came by and saw this thing sitting at the table? They'd shut us down!"

The blonde woman grabbed the golden-haired man by the ear, pinching him until he released the Incubator. Her blue maid uniform was now exchanged for a black one. "And what have I told you about harassing the customers, Gilgamesh?"

"Apologies, Saber, but I saw this repulsive white rodent bothering my good friend Kirei and simply had to intervene on his behalf."

"If the rodent is causing problems, then the task of removing it from the premises falls on me, not you." The woman named Saber picked up the Incubator, before carrying it to the door and throwing it out of the property. "And stay out!"

Dusting itself off, the Incubator decided to put this particular misadventure out of its mind.
 
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Well, there are healing noble phantasms. several of them in fact. But the one Archer would be able to trace is Avalon. Avalon is the one Noble Phantasm that He can trace so perfectly that it does not decrease in its EX rank either does it degrade over time, unlike the other noble phantasms he traces. Since it was in his body when he was a child and grew up with it Avalon recognizes him as its second owner. and as long as Archer is nearby whoever Archer gives Avalon to, it will heal them.

There are several other like Caduceus. Gilgamesh has that.



He could politely ask Gilgamesh for help?

Avalon is probably our best bet then, as that won't require us to be allies with Gil. Not that allying with Gil will be impossible, but he's said that he'll only help us if we ally with Mami, so on the off chance we blow that social we won't be entirely without options.

However, no matter what happens I have to nix the use of Luminosité Eternelle. Nothing against Jeanne, but that is simply not happening.

Edit: I feel really stupid about asking this question, because I know about Avalon and what it does and I know it was inside Shirou, and somehow it just completely slipped my mind.


I've been thinking about who the possible servants are and here are my favorites: scorpion as assassin, link as saber, and finally Mario jumpman as berserker : p

But then who was phone Rider?
 
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[x] Stay in and spend your time
-[x] Watching TV

Gonna go with this one, I think.

Mind you, we'll need to deal with Gertrud at some point, just to keep care of loose ends. There's also the meeting with Mami and Gogglemice Gilgamesh to arrange, though in all fairness, I'm half expecting someone in this apartment complex to set off a building-wide fire alarm or something just to get us out of the house and running into them. Or some other coincidence/crisis. But we can take a moment, damnit, and we want to have at least a bit of time to get our composure back together before possibly scheduling a meeting.

... mnyegh O&K are out there plotting, too. Be embarrassing if Mami or Kyouko had the chance to hunt them down and deal with them before we got to it, although progression-wise it doesn't seem likely. Hn, be embarrassing too if Mami (... or Gigglemoo's Gilgamesh's Sight, mwargh, which we totally cannot discount, mwargh) saw us on our rush out of school. Actually- canon timeline one, Mami and Madoka managed to get to the Witch that was gonna nom on Homura when she was headed home, presumably directly from school. While it's possibly they were tracking the Witch from another direction at the time, it's also possibly they were following her, noticing the mood she'd left school in; it might mean (and would make sense if) Mami kept an eye out for potential Witchbait at school. Today, it's entirely possible that she had coincidental line of sight on Homura, or at the very least noticed the three worried students rushing out with an extra bag. It would take some events lining up, but Mami might be clued in on Homura's... day.

... I'm not actually sure what sort of impression that would serve to make, tbh. Eh.
 
[x] Stay in and spend your time
-[x] Watching TV

Gonna go with this one, I think.

Mind you, we'll need to deal with Gertrud at some point, just to keep care of loose ends. There's also the meeting with Mami and Gogglemice Gilgamesh to arrange, though in all fairness, I'm half expecting someone in this apartment complex to set off a building-wide fire alarm or something just to get us out of the house and running into them. Or some other coincidence/crisis. But we can take a moment, damnit, and we want to have at least a bit of time to get our composure back together before possibly scheduling a meeting.

... mnyegh O&K are out there plotting, too. Be embarrassing if Mami or Kyouko had the chance to hunt them down and deal with them before we got to it, although progression-wise it doesn't seem likely. Hn, be embarrassing too if Mami (... or Gigglemoo's Gilgamesh's Sight, mwargh, which we totally cannot discount, mwargh) saw us on our rush out of school. Actually- canon timeline one, Mami and Madoka managed to get to the Witch that was gonna nom on Homura when she was headed home, presumably directly from school. While it's possibly they were tracking the Witch from another direction at the time, it's also possibly they were following her, noticing the mood she'd left school in; it might mean (and would make sense if) Mami kept an eye out for potential Witchbait at school. Today, it's entirely possible that she had coincidental line of sight on Homura, or at the very least noticed the three worried students rushing out with an extra bag. It would take some events lining up, but Mami might be clued in on Homura's... day.

... I'm not actually sure what sort of impression that would serve to make, tbh. Eh.

Alright, one at a time.

Homura's apartment is one of those places where it's a single big house, but divided into a pair of apartments, one on each floor. No word on who the resident of the other floor is, but we can be safe in the assurance that they won't pull the fire alarm on us just to get the plot moving us out of the house.

The trio at the O+K Corral are indeed plotting as we speak, but Mami is currently preoccupied and Kyouko isn't yet at the point where she gives a shit about other meguca, so we're still in the running to take them down.

Mami did indeed see us leaving the school. She doesn't know who we are, but she feels bad for us, whoever we are. Currently, she is fighting the timeline 1 witch.

Gilgamesh is not helping her do so.
 
Mami did indeed see us leaving the school. She doesn't know who we are, but she feels bad for us, whoever we are.

Well that will be an interesting and slightly awkward first meeting this time 'round.

Currently, she is fighting the timeline 1 witch.

Oh, well, that's nice. As long as she doesn't get a case of dead, then there's that taken care of. Good, good, we'll probably get word about what happens there a bit later.
 
Day 2 Chapter 10
[x] Stay in and spend your time
-[x] Doing girl stuff
-[x] Watching TV



You aren't sure that you deserve the kindness of Madoka and her friends, but you can try to. For Madoka's sake, you can try. Maybe you can deserve this.

"Oh, Homura-chan, before I forget-" Madoka unzips your school bag, handing you a few sheets of paper. "This is the stuff you missed in class earlier."

You take it, genuinely grateful for her unprompted assistance. "Thanks you, Madoka."

"Akemi-san, didn't you say that you broke your television when we spoke at lunch?" Shizuki Hitomi points to the monitor, looking better than it had when your father brought it home from the store shortly after your move to Mitakihara. "So, why isn't it broken anymore?"

"That would be me. I did say I do appliance repair, didn't I?" Archer once more makes his entrance, carrying four large plates of food. Hamburg steak accompanying a vegetable medley. It smells delicious. He sets the plates down in front of you and the other girls, giving you a knowing smile as he sets yours down. "I thought that Homura's first time having friends over deserved something special to mark the occasion. This was my dad's favourite when I was just learning how to cook, and I'd like to think it's become a specialty of mine. You girls enjoy yourselves, you hear?"

You take a tentative first bite, and your senses go wild. The seasoning is just as powerful as it needs to be, the meat is perfectly cooked, and the little bits of diced onion that have been mixed in with the ground beef give the flavour an edge you never knew you needed in your mouth until just now. Madoka, Sayaka, and Hitomi all share similar sentiments, if the look on their faces is anything to go by.

"Wow, Madoka, I think mister Archer has your dad beat," Sayaka says, eagerly wolfing the meal down as you've only seen Sakura Kyouko do before. "Like, no offense to your dad or anything, but I can't believe anyone was able to do this with regular food. It's got to be magic."

"Sayaka-san, there's no such thing as magic," Hitomi replies. "Still, I do agree that Archer-san's cooking is rather impressive, though I am hesitant to call him superior to Kaname-san's artistry just yet."

"We'll have to have them duke it out sometime, Iron Chef style! Two cooks enter, only one cook leaves!"

Madoka and Hitomi laugh at Sayaka's suggestion, a chorus soon joined by Sayaka herself. You hear a fourth laugh joining in as well, one unique from any you've ever heard before. You don't know where it came from.

"Homura-chan, you have a really cute laugh," Madoka says. It takes you a moment to realize that that laugh was your laugh.

Drawn to the commotion, Amy marches over to your group from her resting place in the corner - Damnit Shaft, what do I keep telling you abot putting corners in circular rooms? - rubbing her head against your leg. "Ah, a kitty!" Madoka exclaims, reaching over to pet her. "I didn't know you had a cat, Homura-chan. She's so cute. What's her name?"

"Amy." Thus far, that cat has been nothing but trouble for you. Being the cause of Madoka's contract, and the many times you had to go out of your way to save it to prevent her from contracting... Somehow, none of that matters anymore. That this stubborn little cat could endear you so greatly to Madoka in so short a span of time was a thought that had never crossed your mind before.

"Amy, that's such a nice name." Amy basks in the attention given to her by Madoka. "You're so pretty Amy; just like your owner."

That's the second time today Madoka has called you pretty.

"You know, Homura, I always took you for a cat person." You aren't sure how to respond to Sayaka's statement, nor to her playful poking of your cheek. "I mean, in class you're super smooth and cool and it's like nothing can touch you, but then you get home and you're just a big huggy ball of fluff."

That's... Good? You suppose. But what's better is when Hitomi adds her thoughts to the conversation as well. "You know, it's strange. We've only known Akemi-san for a day, and yet I can't help but feel like she's been our friend for a really long time."

"Maybe she was, like, our friend in another universe or something, and we just forgot about her until now."

"Sayaka-chan, I don't think it works like that."



Your name is Emiya Shirou, and after the day your master has had, it warms your heart to hear her laughing with her new friends. Earlier, when you received another message from your 'employer', you tried to take its advice to heart as best as you could.

Remember that trauma I said not to poke? That. That's part of it. The crying. And all. Just... be careful. You did a good, taking the hint. Keep doing that- if you offer to talk, don't press too hard if Homura doesn't want to talk.
So, when barely an hour later she came home in tears, curling up on the couch in abject misery the likes of which you haven't seen since last you saw Matou Sakura, you tried to avoid the topic as best you could. A blanket over her form for comfort, and a trip to the grocer for ice cream, also for comfort. You knew she would need ice cream. You knew you made the right call in getting the extra large tub of the good stuff when her three friends stopped by to check on her.

Still, you are curious. In the bathroom, you overheard her talking about a Madoka, and a Tomoe-san. Tomoe-san must refer to the Tomoe Mami she mentioned last night, one of the possible masters, but how did she relate to all of this? And, if she was upset about her failure to keep Madoka safe, then why was she also upset about Madoka and Tomoe-san keeping her safe?

You suspect that her time-looping has something to do with all of this, but now clearly isn't the time to ask about it.

You also suspect that the pinkette is the one your master called Madoka.




Your name is Akemi Homura, and the past four hours have been some of the best you can remember ever having in your many loops. You, Madoka, Sayaka, and Hitomi, having dinner together, talking and laughing like old friends as you make fun of bad movies on television, and just generally having a good time. Unfortunately, you knew the good times were over when the conversation veered onto the subject of boys. The four of you had just entered a social capital minefield, and you were not looking forward to participating.

Something told you that you wouldn't have a choice in the matter.

"... Well, obviously Kyousuke is the only one for me," Sayaka says. You want to shake your head, to scream at her and tell her to give up pining for that violinist because nothing good ever comes of it. You keep your mouth shut. "Once his hand is healed up and he's able to play again, I'm going to march right up to him and tell him how I feel."

Madoka smiles at Sayaka. "Good for you, Sayaka-chan. I really hope you two are happy together."

"What about you Madoka-san? Are there any boys that you've got your eye on?"

"Wehihihihi," Madoka's laugh sets your heart aflutter. You wish you could bottle it and save it for whenever you feel down. "Well, not really. I'd like to find someone that's cool, like mama, but I... To be honest, I don't even know if I like boys or not."

"Maybe you just aren't ready to think about these sorts of things. Take your time, and don't try to rush into anything you aren't sure about."

"You're really smart, Hitomi-chan. It's no wonder the boys all love you. Have you decided which one you're going to say yes to?"

Hitomi shakes her head. "To be honest, I don't actually like any of the boys in our grade. It's nothing against them in particular, but my heart has already made it's decision, and it isn't any of them."

"Oh?" No. Stop now Sayaka. You do not want to know who she likes. Stop. Don't ask her. Please don't. "Care to tell us who it is that our Hitomi has her eyes on?"

A guilty look stains Hitomi's emerald eyes, like the way a Soul Gem on the verge of corruption might look. "I'm sorry, Sayaka-san... But I really don't feel comfortable saying that."

Just as it was at the lunch table, once the three had made the rounds among themselves, their eyes all turned towards you, eagerly awaiting your answer likes wolves staring hungrily at a sheep. "Well?" Sayaka pokes your cheek. "Any boys in our class you've got your eyes on, transfer student?"

You shake your head. "No. I'm not interested in boys that way." You've known for awhile that you only like girls. You've known even longer that you only love Madoka.

Hitomi gives you a strange look, while Madoka's eyes take on a slightly hopeful sheen. "I see," says Hitomi, clearly not comfortable with your answer. "If that's how you feel, then I guess we should respect that part of who you are."

Fortunately, Archer chooses that moment to poke his head in. "Girls, it's time to pack it in. I know you're having fun, but Madoka's mom is waiting outside in her car for you." You breathe a sigh of relief, knowing that you've made it through the minefield with most of your social capital intact.

Madoka gives you one last hug as she and the other pack their things and ready themselves for departure. "I had a lot of fun today, Homura-chan. Let's do this again sometime!" You eagerly nod.

"I'm looking forward to it. Would you like to go to the culture festival on Sunday?"

"Yes! I'd love to!"

You smile, saying words you haven't been able to say in so long. "It's a date, then." You don't know if Madoka will pick up on the true meaning of your words. You desperately want her to.

Your new friends are out the door before you have time to realize that you miss them, and soon the living room is just you and Archer. "I take it you had a fun afternoon?"

You did. You really, truly did have fun today. You wish this could last. Maybe this time, there's a way you can make it last. You look to the crimson sigils that adorn your right hand. Somehow, no one noticed them at all throughout the day. Not even Madoka. "Archer," your eyes are still fixated on your Command Seals as you speak his name. "You said that these Command Seals can force a servant to obey any command he is given... What's the limit to that power?"

You can tell that Archer isn't easy talking about this, but fortunately for you, he fights through his reluctance to give you his answer. "Generally, the more specific a command, the more absolute its power over a servant. A vague or poorly-worded command can often be completely ignored by a servant. Additionally, you can only use that power three times; and after the third, a master's contract with their servant is broken."

"I see..." You cannot allow Madoka to make a contract. No matter the cost.

Do you
[ ] Don't use the Command Seal. You can trust Archer to help keep Madoka from contracting without forcing him to obey you
[ ] Use the Command Seal. Keeping Madoka from contracting is too important to leave up to chance
?
 
[x] Don't use the Command Seal. You can trust Archer to help keep Madoka from contracting without forcing him to obey you
-[x] And the time may come that you need those Seals for something else... You think you can trust Archer... but if he learned how Madoka's Witch could destroy everything... you're not as sure. You haven't known him more than a day yet, not really. You hope it won't come to that, but if it does, you might need all the Seals you have.

Also, those seals are a tactical advantage, and there might come a time we want something more acute or specifically worded. For example, if we find out that he feels obliged to pull a "good of the many outweights the good of a few", Oriko-style, to stop our favorite ontological threats and/or ourself, or if he learns about Madoka's world-destroying potential. Now, whether or not I think that specifically likely is less the question than if Homura does. **edits vote to add stuff**

Also, good update was goodness.
 
Lancer swung her spear with tremendous force, severing at the elbow both arms of her foe and separating the girl's torso from her lower body. Tears streamed down the girl's face as she watched, helplessly, as the expressionless Lancer tore her Soul Gem from her body, delivering the bloodstained jewel into the waiting hands of her master, along with the three Grief Seeds she had taken from the broken girl.

Oriko silently pocketed the spoils of war, but Kirika's face shone with elation. "Oh, Oriko, she's simply amazing!" she exclaimed, peppering the cheek of her girlfriend with kisses. "We've gotten so so so so much done in one day, and it's all thanks to you and your amazing new servant!" Oriko said nothing, responding to Kirika's display of affection with a smile and a squeeze of her hand.

For a brief moment, Lancer's expressionless face faltered. "I envy you," she said, her emotionless tone dissonant with the look of sadness in her eyes.

Kirika took immediate affront to Lancer's statement, breaking from her embrace with Oriko to confront the taller female. "Oh yeah? What's that supposed to mean?" Malice was thick on her tongue, and her conjured claw-blades hovered just centimeters in front of Lancer's neck. "Wishing that you were Oriko's girl instead of me?"

"Kirika, no, she didn't mean it like that." Oriko stepped forward to restrain her girlfriend, even as Lancer made no moves to diffuse the situation herself.

"My master is correct, mistress Kure. I did not mean offense when I spoke. In life, I was burdened with a terrible fate, causing me to kill the man that I loved." Kirika withdrew her blades from Lancer's neck, retreating into Oriko's arms with a look of disgust on her face. Loving a man, she thought, was preposterous. After all, how could she love anyone who wasn't Oriko?

"You are fortunate to be able to display your love so freely. That is why I envy you, mistress Kure; because you can love, while I cannot."

Kirika and Oriko were both silent after that. Oriko stared at the markings on her hand, two thorn-studded vines spiraling in the shape of a whirlpool, rubbing with the thumb of her other hand the faded stain where the third had once been. 'Lancer, by my first command, I order you; you are to follow without hesitation any order given to you by Kure Kirika as though it were given to you by myself.'

She smiled, visualizing the path to the salvation of the world, and the bloodstained bricks from which it would be made. Precognition; Time Alter; And now, Lancer. There could be no possibility of failure.
That's confirm my suspicion of Lancer identity, it's has to be her isn't it. I wish it was someone else but hey can't change your mind about that.

I find it weird that the fourth Servant haven't move from their position since the last time Archer spotted them. Unless...
 
[X] Archer, I would suggest informing her that the command seal can be used to empower you to do something you cant do before or to teleport you to her or a specific location in an instant. Or perhaps to make an escape. Though you could use the empowerment to gain the ability to temporarily trace and use Excalibur without repercussions or maybe even Ea. its a BIG may for Ea though. Just in case you come across something you cannot Caladbolg out of existence, like when you sniped Berserker. Remember? Or even a foe Unlimited Blade works cannot Beat. By the way you really must prepare Avalon should Gilgamesh become our enemy its the only defense that can stop Ea after all. and trace a copy for you master as well.

 
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