Re: Abrahamism is not in fact, the only religion.
Abrahamism isn't a religion it's a grouping of many religions that influenced each other. Neither is Paganism, which refers to non-Abrahamic and in history non insert speakers denomination of Christianity. Their isn't that much connection between What people do in Haryana vs Inuit Shamnism, atleast a whole lot less connected then Islam is to Christianity. I hate it when people say paganism is a relgion.
 
Abrahamism isn't a religion it's a grouping of many religions that influenced each other. Neither is Paganism, which refers to non-Abrahamic and in history non insert speakers denomination of Christianity. Their isn't that much connection between What people do in Haryana vs Inuit Shamnism, atleast a whole lot less connected then Islam is to Christianity. I hate it when people say paganism is a relgion.

I am more than aware of what the Abrahamic religions are, I am aware that 'Paganism' is a misused term for the diversities of religion, the term it's descended from, Paganus, essentially means 'yokel' or 'redneck'.

I myself am a Hellenist, not a 'pagan'.

How the heck is Abrahamism a religion?????

It isn't, it is a blanket term for the family of religions dedicated to in one manner or another to the god of the ancient Israelite known as Abraham.
 
How the heck is Abrahamism a religion?????
I know it was a mistype, it should have been the Abrahamic faiths are not the only religions in the world. Which is something people do forgot Astrid. Your right about that.

yeah it's hilarious that pagan means redneck, maybe try calling a rural Alabaman "Pagan" it's technically accurate. And that people hated the rural poor for thousands of years.
 
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Then don't call it a religion. Calling it Abrahamism is painting the same broad strokes that 'pagan' religions are. You're doing the same thing you're criticising. It's infuriating to see my faith lumped like that with Judaism and Christianity. All three and its subdivisions are unique.

Call it a family of religions. Call it a tradition. Don't call it A religion.
 
And it is extremely infuriating to see Judaism lumped in with Christianity.
It was started by a Jew who certainly believed he was working within the boundary of Judaism, though.*

*I do believe in Jesus' divinity, but I'd like to avoid offending people. Religion is a messy subject prone to violent conflagration, even on the Internet.
 
I want to clarify the issue I have with the post isn't calling it Abrahamic. That's a valid term and recognises the connection and history these faiths have. Islam literally cannot exist without Judaism and Christianity and the Quran acknowledges that. I have issue of calling it a religion. A singular one. That is simply false.
 
I want to clarify the issue I have with the post isn't calling it Abrahamic. That's a valid term and recognises the connection and history these faiths have. Islam literally cannot exist without Judaism and Christianity and the Quran acknowledges that. I have issue of calling it a religion. A singular one. That is simply false.

Which I apologize for having done and will not do so again. Be well, friend.
 
I've been watching Batman TAS and in the early episodes, Batman had trouble fighting three or four goons. The longer it went, the more competent he and his villains became. Poison Ivy was just a botanist that used science and now she's basically a fantasy druid on steroids.
 
And it is extremely infuriating to see Judaism lumped in with Christianity.
To be fair early Roman writers thought they where, and some early Christians considered themselves Jewish too. It's real messy when they cut off.

I also hate shows about royals where Like the Prince or Princess of a kingdom feels angst about a arranged marriage or just their parents not spending time with them because they have a kingdom to lead. Amd im like the fuck man you have it better then 99.99% of all people in your kingdom amd msot of the world. I don't care about your angst about not marrying your true love .peasants are starving In your fucking kingdom while you bitch about day isssues. This happens in Steven Universe and I don't. Feel bad for Pink Diamond for having uncaring parents when they also commit eugenics against deformed gems! Like stop complaining bitch. And worse the ending of Steven Universe has the dimonds repent for what they did to Pink and not the eugenics/anti-misegragation shit
 
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I've been watching Batman TAS and in the early episodes, Batman had trouble fighting three or four goons. The longer it went, the more competent he and his villains became. Poison Ivy was just a botanist that used science and now she's basically a fantasy druid on steroids.
Pro tip: bring a strong drink for when you get to the Bruce/Barbara in, I forget if it's the revival series or post series, but believe me you'll need it. Not to drink it, just to have it around, in the knowledge that if need be, you could down it, and be comforted by that illusion of security.

[edit] Just checked and it's Batman Beyond, which is largely pretty good but holy fuck Timm. Better than the also Timm Killing Joke film where they fuck on a rooftop tho.
 
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I just assume that Bruce/Barbara in Beyond only happened when she was, like, 30+ or something. That seems like a good age to write a character dating an older man and not have it be fucking weird.

I don't know how old Batman is supposed to be in any given version. But for the mainline interpretation of his character even late twenties seems way, way too young.
 
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I always figured Bruce for somewhere in his 30s to early 40s.
 
I just assume that Bruce/Barbara in Beyond only happened when she was, like, 30+ or something. That seems like a good age to write a character dating an older man and not have it be fucking weird.

I don't know how old Batman is supposed to be in any given version. But for the mainline interpretation of his character even late twenties seems way, way too young.
It's more that she used to be almost-romancing his adopted son who he accidentally drove away and inadvertently destroyed the aforementioned budding relationship of. Like. It might be technically mechanically kosher within most of our cultures as a romance. But uh....

 
The ages of all three have shifted around over the years from what I've gathered in various versions and reboots with Bruce originally being of a vague age but young enough to be referred to as a young man, Dick being a child of I think 10 when his parents were murdered and Barbara was originally a college girl when she was introduced but certainly much older than Robin though these days their ages tend to be much closer I've gathered.
 
They believe in what they want to believe and cherrypick from the Bible to make it happen, rather than truly following the teachings of Jesus.
Oh shit - no one is aware of what Jesus actually taught, for all the Gospels came down in copies written after at least a hundred years. And even the canonical Gospels are contradictory among themselves - so John seems to be a Gnostic and advocates a break with Judaism. However, it can be judged that Yeshua most likely considered himself the King of Israel, and predicted the end of the world.
 
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It seems to be a common pattern that the more fanatic and coercive people are about pushing their religion, the more likely they are to be ignorant of what it actually says. I expect because if they actually knew, it would get in the way of pushing their personal prejudices.
Sorry - but so often they try to separate fundamentalists from "moderates", but it doesn't work. First, they can be accused of distorting doctrine and selective citation, but the same applies to non-fundamentalists. For example, the Chalcedonians can be reproached for being neo-Platonists in disguise, Protestants for denying sacred tradition, and so on. It is also possible to accuse a fanatic of violating "non-resistance to evil," but the fanatic can quote passages that condemn homosexuality. But not one of them is authentic - the sacred texts were written at different stages of the slave society. Religion is always trying to adapt to new conditions, and over 2000 years they have changed steadily several times.
However, the truth is that fanaticism is always the ultimate expression of religion. Absolutely any religion has the potential for fundamentalism - after all, by the fact that it rests on an irrational faith. Whether it's Christianity, Hinduism, or Judaism.
 
Sorry - but so often they try to separate fundamentalists from "moderates", but it doesn't work. First, they can be accused of distorting doctrine and selective citation, but the same applies to non-fundamentalists. For example, the Chalcedonians can be reproached for being neo-Platonists in disguise, Protestants for denying sacred tradition, and so on. It is also possible to accuse a fanatic of violating "non-resistance to evil," but the fanatic can quote passages that condemn homosexuality. But not one of them is authentic - the sacred texts were written at different stages of the slave society. Religion is always trying to adapt to new conditions, and over 2000 years they have changed steadily several times.
However, the truth is that fanaticism is always the ultimate expression of religion. Absolutely any religion has the potential for fundamentalism - after all, by the fact that it rests on an irrational faith. Whether it's Christianity, Hinduism, or Judaism.
eh any belief can be turned to fanaticism, religion is hardly the only thing people can be irrationally faithful towards.
 
eh any belief can be turned to fanaticism, religion is hardly the only thing people can be irrationally faithful towards.
Well, here, in principle, I agree, although clarification is required - but I will note that, in principle, I respect radicals more than moderate ones. And I myself am politically radical.

P. S. - For the administration: no, I do not mean that all Christians are fanatics. And no - I am not suggesting persecuting Christians.
 
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However, the truth is that fanaticism is always the ultimate expression of religion. Absolutely any religion has the potential for fundamentalism - after all, by the fact that it rests on an irrational faith.

Even if I grant the base premise, I'm not sure how your conclusion logically follows. Faith is in many senses fundamentally an irrational thing. I have faith that people are, in some sense, inherently good. Many people would consider that irrational, including many people on SV, I'm sure. Does that mean that fanaticism is the ultimate expression of that belief? If so, why? If not, why is religion different?
 
If so, why? If not, why is religion different?
The problems problems start to arise when the believe includes parts about how it's the only possible way and all others must be removed.

Which ironically isn't a staple of all religions, but is one of Edgy Internet Athesim.
 
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