Not really sure what sound you mean, sorry.
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Only in the EU, really. Go look at the original Death Star battle again; one on one, the TIEs win against X-Wings every single time. Even Luke needs help, and every dead TIE is the result of the Rebels managing to get two X-Wings to gang up on one TIE fighter.
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Fair enough. I was mostly talking in the context of the EU, and considering I really like the X-Wing books (warts and all), which are probably the most in-depth look at this kind of stuff the EU does...eh?
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Oh, I know. A lot of it is on Stackpole taking the relative strengths as presented in a video game, with a video game's considerations for exciting the player, as the baseline, and then writing a series of battles that are basically transcripts of those video game fights.
Which leads to things like, for example, a pair of X-Wings being able to casually obliterate AT-ATs, despite the fact that this makes the Rebel deployment at Hoth incredibly stupid, and many others.
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I know, at the same time, even in the New Canon, the X-Wing design was apparently not terrible? Considering that in TFA they use a more advanced variant on X-Wings.
If TIE Fighters were actually that totally superior then the moment they became a legitimate government (which happened between movies) they'd take those TIE fighters, paint them white because they're the good guys, and use them instead of X-Wings.
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It's probably the same reason you're never going to see the NR use Star Destroyers on-screen (although personally I'd love to see some with great big red birds painted on show up); they're just plain too symbolic of the Empire, a reason which can work both in and out of universe. Another possibility, of course, is that, you know, the TIE pilots were just better, but that also goes against the prevailing EU narrative of the Imperial troops generally being complete shit
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It's probably the same reason you're never going to see the NR use Star Destroyers on-screen (although personally I'd love to see some with great big red birds painted on show up); they're just plain too symbolic of the Empire, a reason which can work both in and out of universe. Another possibility, of course, is that, you know, the TIE pilots were just better, but that also goes against the prevailing EU narrative of the Imperial troops generally being complete shit
Eh, I will note that in the EU, the New Republic did actually use Star Destroyers. Not on-screen (because EU, duh), but generally I just like a take on it that doesn't paint TIE fighters as completely superior, in part because it enables me to enjoy the X-Wing Series, especially the ones that aren't by Stackpole. Not that he's terrible, but he's the second best of the two people who write that series.
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Oh I know exactly what he means. Hell I can hear it playing in my head right now. It's used when a character is all like "WHO ATE THE COOKIE FROM THE COOKIE JAR" and the dude's all "HYUK!" something like that.
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Gasp. It's called a gasp.
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Well, Star Destroyers' job was to suppress dissent, wasn't it? Show up in a system, project the Empire's power, ensure the locals don't get any seditious ideas. I can imagine that the New Republic would keep them at a central fleet base, perhaps in mothballs, in case they're needed for a war. If you just want to show the flag, a frigate will do.It's probably the same reason you're never going to see the NR use Star Destroyers on-screen (although personally I'd love to see some with great big red birds painted on show up); they're just plain too symbolic of the Empire, a reason which can work both in and out of universe. Another possibility, of course, is that, you know, the TIE pilots were just better, but that also goes against the prevailing EU narrative of the Imperial troops generally being complete shit
If it were just a gasp I'd think "dude that's just the sound surprised people make" but it sound like they're talking about something else that's often found in anime.
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You mean that *choked from the cookie he's eating right now* sound?
How is it used all the time tho? The sound effects are situational, right?
Private Lee O'Malley
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nah that was an example what im saying that's just a common shocked sound.
NemiTheNen
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I might have complained about this before. But Everything happening on or to Earth (All the fucking time) without a reference of some aliens also dealing with it.
As in aliens always invade Earth but never seem to come into conflict with each other?
Oh yea! Giant threats, sure, but let Trantor deal with them occasionally, or Alpha Centauri, or the Medusa system.
If alien warlords show up here, they should elsewhere too.
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I dunno, it sorta makes sense? I mean, especially if earth is less advanced.
...hah, that makes me imagine a story where earth fights off a terrifying and powerful alien invader at great cost only to learn that he was the equivilent of one of the Filitbusters/Freebooters of the 1800s. Some rich jackass from Space America with a few million dollars trying to knock over some poor backwater and install himself as overlord.
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NemiTheNen
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Yeah, or negative space wedgie threatens the entire universe, Earth works tirelessly away at saving themselves (and the rest of the universe).
Galactus attacks! Only Reed Richards can save us! No one comes to earth for his help next time the big guy gets hungry.
I face palmed so hard when DC decided Earth, rather than Oa, was the center of the universe and where life first appeared.
I much preferred back in the old days when they'd bump into other worlds with super communities and such. Often pretty paltry ones, granted, but hey, you got a half dozen heroes, at least it shows you deal with some of the same crap.
Earth can even be special/stand out and that's ok, it just shouldn't be the only special one/way more so than any other. One-of the special worlds that deals with stuff.
I want to see Doctor Who visit civilizations with their own protector who's perhaps not Doctor formidable, but in a similar role.
I much preferred back in the old days when they'd bump into other worlds with super communities and such. Often pretty paltry ones, granted, but hey, you got a half dozen heroes, at least it shows you deal with some of the same crap.
Earth can even be special/stand out and that's ok, it just shouldn't be the only special one/way more so than any other. One-of the special worlds that deals with stuff.
I want to see Doctor Who visit civilizations with their own protector who's perhaps not Doctor formidable, but in a similar role.
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Mortis Nuntius
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But then he won't be the most special person in the universe except for his platonic love interest's species who she will point out are more than his pets on occasion...often before he saves them again.
The Doctor was much better when he was basically just lying low on earth having fun with the "kids" and going wherever the hell he wanted meeting nasty people and defeating them because that's his thing then when he was basically a God.
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Reveen
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I don't know much about Dr. Hu. But I do know is that the main thing that repellant me from it is the feeling that it's become this super dramatic superhero story with its head up its ass regarding its own internal mythology rather than just a serial show playing with sci Fi concepts.
A note on that- those were under Vader's direct command. Probably a higher end unit. Not all aces, but not average.
Mortis Nuntius
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Super drama actually worked pretty well at first.
Dr Who was a British tradition but it was always roughly half silly and half scary. There was real drama involved but also fun exploring the world and learning new things.
The new series thought things had gotten too campy and wanted people hiding behind couches again so upped the angst and fear and it worked really well for a couple of years but eventually they went overboard with the Doctor being the guy monsters were scared of (great line, really it worked well when its the doctor unarmed facing machine assassins with a scared little girl behind him telling her that its fine to be scared but its the other guy who should be worried) but eventually what was a genuinely scarring background story to explain why he was so much darker (the time war with the Daleks who became scary again for the first time in a while) became a running gag or obligatory mention and the idea he was the most awesome person in the universe who could deal with entire races of villains in an afternoon set in.
It realised it had lost its scare factor and once it got it back it needed a protagonist that could deal with genuine world ending threats on a weekly basis and then it forgot that the fear was meant to mingle with the laughter.