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"We finally got the stupidly unreasonable Arthwyd off our backs."
Chronicles of Nations - Civ Quest
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"We finally got the stupidly unreasonable Arthwyd off our backs."
10ebbor10
DON'T PANIC
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On that matter, why can't we attack them. I mean, I get that we've officially forgiven them, but we can attack everyone else for no reason in particular. Is there an official truce, or is the logistics issue.
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You have just agreed to not attack them so for the time being, you are unable to do that as the Arthwyd won't break the peace deal so readily in-universe. You can attack anyone without reason, but you cannot attack them if you have a reason not to attack them. For the Colryd, this is very high and friendly relationships to the point while for the Forluc, it is a matter of logistics. In the case of the Caradysh, it is because the Arthwyd aren't going to break the peace treaty after just signing it.
So it is an official truce, but how long that will last is unknown.
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Well while I'm against attacking Caradysh we should attack someone else.
It's better for us to find our military flaws in minor war than in major wars.
We're not going to find flaws waging wars against nobody.
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We as heck won't find them with our warriors just sitting around and doing nothing.
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We just finished a war can we have a few turns of peace first. When your own soldiers want peace they arent gonna be to effective fighting then.
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But we won't get new military upgrades and from what i get. Our army sucks.
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[X] [SEC] Explore Lands = (Sea)
[X] [SEC] Trade Expedition = (Coltyre Confederation)
[X] [SEC] War Party = (Lowlander Tribes)
This is the best course of action. Explore the sea for better boats, diplomacy with the nomad confederation and send warriors into the Lowlands in order to aid the Colryd against their enemies and to prop them up as a more efficient buffer against the Forluc.
[X] [SEC] Trade Expedition = (Coltyre Confederation)
[X] [SEC] War Party = (Lowlander Tribes)
This is the best course of action. Explore the sea for better boats, diplomacy with the nomad confederation and send warriors into the Lowlands in order to aid the Colryd against their enemies and to prop them up as a more efficient buffer against the Forluc.
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who cares that dosent mean we need to keep looking for a fight to keep advancing our military. Its not like were militarily oriented anyway. Frankly if we want our army to be good we should plant the sacred forest all around our settlements so that way we can use our ambush tactics much more easily.
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War will come in forms of Furloc to us anyway and we will have to send warriors there only for them to die. That works wonderful for morale in our civ.
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Warriors will die period no matter how well trained your army is besides what do you want us to do go conqueror the lowlands to try to get better military we would basically be the furloc at that point.
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Basically this. And no there is a difference in casualty count you know, a difference in 100 and 1000 warriors dying is quite big both in terms of economy and morale.
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We dont have to seek out wars to get better military you seem to be under the idea that we will get curb stomped by just about anything despite the fact we have done pretty well for ourselves thus far, yes it would be nice to get better military that i wont argue but we dont need to seek out war for it were not a warmonger state like the furloc if war comes we will fight we will grow and we will learn but we dont have to seek one out.
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Not really me, I'm just following previous discussion. I can say a lot but whatever I'm not overly interested in this topic.
More dead Arthwyd work perfectly for my cause anyway.
Now what we really should do is research magic.
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What would be your solution then, people have to die in order to get better military.
NúmenoreanNazgûl
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How about Smilodons? If boar-folk have direboars, bird-folk started taming birds, I want our holy cavalry units to be the Saber-tooths.
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NúmenoreanNazgûl
Witch-King
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Those are for the Fire Speakers, not the Arthwyd.
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There is quite difference in people dying against lowland tribe to further military knowledge and people dying against Furloc.
And really now when i think about it death isn't such big problem really because those that die get to live in Afterlife not having to slave and suffer in material plane anymore.
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Not to mention we do have the greater numbers to absorbs loses also like osha said we need to be put into situations which would give us those military ideas meaning fighting the lowlanders which fight with groups of warriors as they have been would probably not promt us to get any revolutionary military ideas.
Well, you could send people off as observers to see how other people fight.
It had everything to do with the absolute surplus production from agriculture. You could not "build tall" in real life because nobody had farms that were magically more productive.
Still waiting for your example btw.
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As others have pointed out, the Arthwyd basically have exceptionally good light infantry and scouts (the last of these being the Cateyes and comprising almost half our military) and literally nothing else. This makes them very good in rough terrain, reconnaissance, screening, and harassing, but terrible in holding the line since they don't have staying power, especially in comparison to armies which fight in close order (medium and heavy infantry/cavalry. Hell the Arthwyd don't even have cavalry, just our vassals and possibly allies) or those who are numerically superior.
What we need urgently is line infantry at the very least. Our allies can provide this, but I'd rather we have that capability, and it shouldn't be too hard acquire. It looks like we have to get faces smashed in by the Forluc in order for that to occur, though. We also should not antagonize the Lowlanders as they are basically our tripwire.
What we need urgently is line infantry at the very least. Our allies can provide this, but I'd rather we have that capability, and it shouldn't be too hard acquire. It looks like we have to get faces smashed in by the Forluc in order for that to occur, though. We also should not antagonize the Lowlanders as they are basically our tripwire.
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