Chronicles of Nations - Civ Quest

Oshha · Mar 13, 2019

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Vote Tally : Chronicles of Nations - Civ Quest - Original | Page 345 | Sufficient Velocity [Posts: 8606-8720]
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[X] Refuse this the undead abomination and reject all of the offers it is making. (???)
No. of Votes: 22
[X] Urth is offering tamed animals from the lowlands as gifts to the People. (Chance of Gaining Stability, ???)
No. of Votes: 16

Raichu1972
Entropy OverDark
Ernest352
EWilanO
Gino
Hallesworth49
kalugin
Kiba
Killer_Whale
Knight Draco
nkd1325
sunrise
thefoolswriter
veekie
wingstrike96
Zaealix

[X] Urth is offering to share his magical knowledge with the People. (Chance of Gaining Stability, ???)
No. of Votes: 13

Raichu1972
Ernest352
Hallesworth49
kalugin
Kiba
Killer_Whale
nkd1325
Raptor580
sunrise
thefoolswriter
veekie
wingstrike96
Zaealix

[X] Urth is offering to have the Caradysh submit as a vassal to the Arthwyd. (Chance of Gaining Stability, ???)
No. of Votes: 3

Raichu1972
Cariyaga
sunrise

[X] Through a stolen body, the Daughters of Urth share the blood of the People. Demand that they be returned to the People. (+1 Legitimacy, ???)
No. of Votes: 2

Raichu1972
Random Member

[x] Urth is offering to provide a regular supply of free information from the lowlands and beyond to the People. (Chance of Gaining Stability, ???)
No. of Votes: 2

Raptor580
Random Member

[x] Urth will provide regular tribute to the Arthwyd. (Chance of Gaining Stability, ???)
No. of Votes: 2

Raptor580
sunrise

Total No. of Voters: 40

Kiba · Mar 13, 2019

How the heck are we still six consistent votes away?

Knight Draco · Mar 13, 2019

Kiba said:
How the heck are we still six consistent votes away?

Tbqh the fact that we are even this close this close is due to the power of the veekie wagon. Otherwise it would have been not even contendable.

Random Member · Mar 13, 2019

If we all vote for war, would we trigger A Fey Mood?

Rockeye · Mar 13, 2019

@Oshha in Urth Strikes Back, Econ jumped from 11 to 17. What caused that?

jjffjhjf · Mar 13, 2019

Rockeye said:
@Oshha in Urth Strikes Back, Econ jumped from 11 to 17. What caused that?

Actually having the northern settlements start counting. We got a full 6/12 province from getting our previous vassals as part of the People in whole.

nat_401 · Mar 13, 2019

Rockeye said:
@Oshha in Urth Strikes Back, Econ jumped from 11 to 17. What caused that?

That was from annexing the Mermtir

Oshha · Mar 13, 2019

Rockeye said:
@Oshha in Urth Strikes Back, Econ jumped from 11 to 17. What caused that?

Integrated the Merntir and got 6 Settlements from them, giving you 6 permanent Econ from them. You also got a half-settled province and a completed megaproject.

Shinr · Mar 13, 2019

[X] Refuse this the undead abomination and reject all of the offers it is making. (???)

Nemonole · Mar 13, 2019

[X] Urth is offering tamed animals from the lowlands as gifts to the People. (Chance of Gaining Stability, ???)
[X] Urth is offering to share his magical knowledge with the People. (Chance of Gaining Stability, ???)
[X] Urth is offering to have the Caradysh submit as a vassal to the Arthwyd. (Chance of Gaining Stability, ???)

Honestly, I don't believe we dealt a critical blow to Urth; do remember that this is a veteran of countless wars and did quite decisively kick us out of that forest in spite of our Martial Hero support. If any of those settlements we stepped over on our path to his fortress were actually important to him we would've seen our advance halt then and there. But no, he sacrificed them to prove a point; and to bleed us of as many of our forces as possible. Do remember that settlements aren't necessary a twelfth of a province; recall waaaaaaaaaay back then when we first met the lowlanders with their countless micro-settlements? Urth's idea of a settlement is almost certainly different than the Arthwyd's idea of a settlement; an enemy overrunning an Arthwyd settlement would be a catastrophic blow to us due to just how centralized we are... Urth is probably not the same, given how little effort he put into actually defending those provinces.

Urth offering peace is not a guaranteed indication of him being in a weak position; now he may be, which is why I'll be advocating for taking a 'trust, but verify' stance if we do end up making a peace treaty. Keep tabs on him. And besides, he's had time to recoup from any losses we inflicted on him just as we licked our own wounds, only now we lack a Martial Hero to back us up. In a sense, we had our opportunity to keep the pressure on and we spent that Studying Metal. I fully expect a bloodbath trying to press on as things are now, more preparation is needed in order to make a second assault not end the same as our first, so taking peace so we can get something out of the mandatory preparation phase (or maybe, just maybe (probably not given how the vote is going), we get actual lasting peace and can focus on infrastructure again!.. We did fall behind a fair bit with our latest settlements.) is my plan.

If it turns out his nation is weak, keep ahead on the arms race to punch him in a few turns. And besides; figuring out how to actually kill him is going to be vital if we want to end this through war.

hYGP · Mar 13, 2019

[X] Through a stolen body, the Daughters of Urth share the blood of the People. Demand that they be returned to the People. (+1 Legitimacy, ???)
[X] Urth is offering tamed animals from the lowlands as gifts to the People. (Chance of Gaining Stability, ???)
[X] Urth is offering to share his magical knowledge with the People. (Chance of Gaining Stability, ???)

Kiba · Mar 13, 2019

People having varying belief on if we came close to defeating Urth or not is precisely WHY we need to seek intelligence in the lowland.

10ebbor10 · Mar 13, 2019

Kiba said:
People having varying belief on if we came close to defeating Urth or not is precisely WHY we need to seek intelligence in the lowland.

The problem is that we're not voting on whether or not to gain intel, so your comment is kind-off irrelevant?

Kiba · Mar 13, 2019

10ebbor10 said:
The problem is that we're not voting on whether or not to gain intel, so your comment is kind-off irrelevant?

We could gain something while we scout for intelligence and build up contacts with the Lowlanders opposing him.

10ebbor10 · Mar 13, 2019

Kiba said:
We could gain something while we scout for intelligence and build up contacts with the Lowlanders opposing him.

Or we can scout in preparation for a big attack without waiting a century.

The decision of whether or not scout is independent of the decision to go for peace.

Kiba · Mar 13, 2019

10ebbor10 said:
Or we can scout in preparation for a big attack without waiting a century.

The decision of whether or not scout is independent of the decision to go for peace.

This is assuming that Urth won't attack us as we scout the lowland or attempt to frustrate our attempt at information gathering.

Oshha · Mar 13, 2019

Vote closed.
Vote Tally : Chronicles of Nations - Civ Quest - Original | Page 345 | Sufficient Velocity [Posts: 8606-8732]
##### NetTally 1.9.7
[X] Refuse this the undead abomination and reject all of the offers it is making. (???)
No. of Votes: 23
[X] Urth is offering tamed animals from the lowlands as gifts to the People. (Chance of Gaining Stability, ???)
No. of Votes: 18

Raichu1972
Entropy OverDark
Ernest352
EWilanO
Gino
Hallesworth49
huhYeahGoodPoint
kalugin
Kiba
Killer_Whale
Knight Draco
Nemonole
nkd1325
sunrise
thefoolswriter
veekie
wingstrike96
Zaealix

[X] Urth is offering to share his magical knowledge with the People. (Chance of Gaining Stability, ???)
No. of Votes: 15

Raichu1972
Ernest352
Hallesworth49
huhYeahGoodPoint
kalugin
Kiba
Killer_Whale
Nemonole
nkd1325
Raptor580
sunrise
thefoolswriter
veekie
wingstrike96
Zaealix

[X] Urth is offering to have the Caradysh submit as a vassal to the Arthwyd. (Chance of Gaining Stability, ???)
No. of Votes: 4

Raichu1972
Cariyaga
Nemonole
sunrise

[X] Through a stolen body, the Daughters of Urth share the blood of the People. Demand that they be returned to the People. (+1 Legitimacy, ???)
No. of Votes: 3

Raichu1972
huhYeahGoodPoint
Random Member

[x] Urth is offering to provide a regular supply of free information from the lowlands and beyond to the People. (Chance of Gaining Stability, ???)
No. of Votes: 2

Raptor580
Random Member

[x] Urth will provide regular tribute to the Arthwyd. (Chance of Gaining Stability, ???)
No. of Votes: 2

Raptor580
sunrise

Total No. of Voters: 43

thefoolswriter · Mar 13, 2019

here we go back to war

Random Member · Mar 13, 2019

[] [SEC] Explore Lands = (Cursed Forest)
[] [SEC] War Party = (Cursed Forest)

This combination should be more effective than our previous attempt. Let's actually Explore the place we're trying to attack....

Cariyaga · Mar 13, 2019

Random Member said:
[] [SEC] Explore Lands = (Cursed Forest)
[] [SEC] War Party = (Cursed Forest)

This combination should be more effective than our previous attempt. Let's actually Explore the place we're trying to attack....

Or we could settle and get an extra action.

jjffjhjf · Mar 13, 2019

Random Member said:
[] [SEC] Explore Lands = (Cursed Forest)
[] [SEC] War Party = (Cursed Forest)

This combination should be more effective than our previous attempt. Let's actually Explore the place we're trying to attack....

Or wait to attack until after we've got more settlements. Maybe a settle/explore turn? Then we could Train More Sacred Warriors Main and a study magic to hopefully get some more military magic, military tech in general, followed by a MAIN warty party with some study metal? Lots of different options that don't include immediately attacking.

Random Member · Mar 13, 2019

Cariyaga said:
Or we could settle and get an extra action.

jjffjhjf said:
Or wait to attack until after we've got more settlements. Maybe a settle/explore turn? Then we could Train More Sacred Warriors Main and a study magic to hopefully get some more military magic, military tech in general, followed by a MAIN warty party with some study metal? Lots of different options that don't include immediately attacking.

There's no time for Settling, we must attack now!

Kiba · Mar 13, 2019

jjffjhjf said:
Or wait to attack until after we've got more settlements. Maybe a settle/explore turn? Then we could Train More Sacred Warriors Main and a study magic to hopefully get some more military magic, military tech in general, followed by a MAIN warty party with some study metal? Lots of different options that don't include immediately attacking.

We explore and settle first.

If we got intel, then we decide if we want to attack Urth or not.

jjffjhjf · Mar 13, 2019

Kiba said:
We explore and settle first.

If we got intel, then we decide if we want to attack Urth or not.

That works for me. Getting that new action will help a ton with anything else we decide to do, and exploring gets us info the most powerful force in the world.

Random Member · Mar 13, 2019

We can't build up or take it easy for a turn, they're already here.

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