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Have you thought about changing that by doing more Trade Missions?
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Omegahugger
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But that Legitimacy doesn't go in the air, it goes to the Maradysh Cadlon. Who needs Legitimacy to secure ers rule, and the best way to get it would be to strike back against the wicked overlords from the North.
Probably not the only way she could get it, but given she is martially inclined it could very well be her best option.
Outside of being a measurement of narrative standing, having the highest local prestige is what gives us the "King of the Hill" status that gives us 1 Diplomacy per turn.
Mind you, it can also come with downsides of being seen as a major power. Like how nations on a diplomatic scale scrutiny the UK's actions than they do Denmark's.
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Prestige in essentially the dickwaving stat.
It makes you more well known, and also makes people more likely to seek you out; either to trade for your riches and raid you for them.
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He won't strike at us and we don't have a reason to give him legitimacy for free as i doubt that he will be friendly to us.
Remember things were going good before he decided to declare himself King. This is basically a power grab and we are helping him in it.
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There is the reason of many of us not liking having supercharged legitimacy, and not quite thinking that arguments for nebulous reforms in the future is a good way to get rid of it.
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That is more due to a lack of trying than trying not working. You had decent relations with the Lowlander Tribes and were able to diplomatically make the Merntir a vassal. Which is pretty much both of times that the People made an attempt at diplomacy.
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Now, some people might see Prestige as something that needs to be hoarded. This is not a good idea. Prestige can be exchanged for good things (as shown in this vote), things that are in the end much more valuable.
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I don't see a good reason to give it to them or better said to their leader who basically sabotaged our efforts and put us in this situation.
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We put ourselves in this situation....
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For some reason, I find this post really amusing as you got that extra point of legitimacy from the leader who put you in this situation and sabotaged your relations with the Maradysh.
Yeah, it is pretty much the fault of Evalyn Boarslayer/the players. Sure in-universe it was all Evalyn's fault, but she only conquered the Maradysh due the players voting that way.
Edit: For the record, it is my personal opinion that Evalyn's actions are at fault for putting you in this situation. If she hadn't genocided and conquered the Maradysh, you would have neutral to decent relations with them.
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I don't know, it doesn't look like the situation needed any sabotage.
Unless you count "leader of the populace proceeds to do what the populace wants" as sabotage.
As a side-note, I just realised I have consistently misgendered the Maradysh Cadlon.
If anyone asks, this is because she wasn't named, and not because I assumed that a non-Arthrynite hero would be male.
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And now in universe we have another leader who is sabotaging us against our will. Why couldn't they simply roll diplo hero
Recognition of them will put us in a better relationship than if we quietly let them rebel.
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I did the same, so don't worry.
This just shows that we're more alike than any of us thought.
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And now in universe we have another leader who is sabotaging us against our will. Why couldn't they simply roll diplo hero
Just so you realise, in that situation, you would be worse off as you would either have to let them go like you can now or suffer penalties for trying to keep hold of them whilst they are being so diplomatic about things? Basically this vote, but the situation would be set up diplomatically that you would lose out even more than you currently are.
Pretty much. Being officially let go and recognised will result in better relations with them.
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I would also like to clarify that Maradysh Martial Hero hasn't convinced the Maradysh to rebel. They had already decided that on their own and she has just given the opportunity to revolt by giving them a decent chance against the Catclaws.
She has just been declared Cadlon because she is their best war-leader and they don't expect those northern aresholes to let them go peacefully and without a fight so they want their best commander in charge.
She has just been declared Cadlon because she is their best war-leader and they don't expect those northern aresholes to let them go peacefully and without a fight so they want their best commander in charge.
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Won't letting them without anything be force us to save face by pacifying them later?
Because if we're not stating that we agree with them leaving, then our population will want to deal with this problem.
Letting them go and blessing their leader makes us eat a hit diplomatically, but it does make it our decision, something our populace won't see as an ongoing problem.
Because if we're not stating that we agree with them leaving, then our population will want to deal with this problem.
Letting them go and blessing their leader makes us eat a hit diplomatically, but it does make it our decision, something our populace won't see as an ongoing problem.
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We still have those question marks wich might result in negotiations with them leaving under a better terms for us.
Letting them go and blessing their leader is not getting us hit diplomatically. It's establishing better diplomatic relation so that our neighbor is much less likely stab us in the back at the worst possible time.
How in the world could it result in "better" term for us?
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The question marks might also be something negative. They're probably much more likely to be something negative than something positive. I don't see them reacting well to having their declaration of independence basically be ignored.
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They do it with the hopes of not giving up resources under a threat.
Like I said earlier, SV does not like when non-player actions force them to do things. Even if it is minor stuff like giving up a few stats which we have in abundance.
It is a diploatic hit in the sense that it make our home-politics harder to handle.
Of course, we are currently at four out of three in terms of popularity, so this literally brings us down to "perfect".